Actually, that is man's interpretation of the data. People forget (intentionally) that there is no way to take into account natural C-14 activity in the past, because nobody was there measuring the C-14 data as it happened. In addition, because of the carbon dating that has been proven to be false, the best that carbon dating might be is a better interpretation of things that we know the near date of through other methods.
In other words, carbon dating is all guesswork regarding the dates that are being interpreted from the results evidence.
It's not guess work! It's statistics! And that's why we do the experiments few dozens of times and we take into account a margin error! But you'd want us to be wrong about millions of years wrong? nonsense! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating#Errors_and_reliabilitySounds quite reliable to me... the example they use to show the possibility of error using only 1 standard deviation, is still only off by like 5% at most... still super accurate This was demonstrated in 1970 by an experiment run by the British Museum radiocarbon laboratory, in which weekly measurements were taken on the same sample for six months. The results varied widely (though consistently with a normal distribution of errors in the measurements), and included multiple date ranges (of 1σ confidence) that did not overlap with each other. The extreme measurements included one with a maximum age of under 4,400 years, and another with a minimum age of more than 4,500 years Problem is not even accuracy! No matter the accuracy, when you get ONLY results between 5 millions years old and 4 999 500 years old, it's hard to believe that the real result would be 3000... BADecker thinks God put less Carbon-14 in older objects... just to trick us into thinking he doesn't exist... if that makes sense? (makes no sense to me... why would God hide any/all evidence of creation?) Takes someone who doesn't even consider that God might exist, especially in the face of all the cause and effect we see, without anything other than cause and effect being known, to ask why God would do things, when he wouldn't understand the answer if it walked right up and scratched him in the eyeball. Are you just here to troll and be a douche? Really poor representative of Christianity Of course I have considered whether or not God exists... I wasted 30 fucking years researching the subject! How about you ya little shit?
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Actually, that is man's interpretation of the data. People forget (intentionally) that there is no way to take into account natural C-14 activity in the past, because nobody was there measuring the C-14 data as it happened. In addition, because of the carbon dating that has been proven to be false, the best that carbon dating might be is a better interpretation of things that we know the near date of through other methods.
In other words, carbon dating is all guesswork regarding the dates that are being interpreted from the results evidence.
It's not guess work! It's statistics! And that's why we do the experiments few dozens of times and we take into account a margin error! But you'd want us to be wrong about millions of years wrong? nonsense! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating#Errors_and_reliabilitySounds quite reliable to me... the example they use to show the possibility of error using only 1 standard deviation, is still only off by like 5% at most... still super accurate This was demonstrated in 1970 by an experiment run by the British Museum radiocarbon laboratory, in which weekly measurements were taken on the same sample for six months. The results varied widely (though consistently with a normal distribution of errors in the measurements), and included multiple date ranges (of 1σ confidence) that did not overlap with each other. The extreme measurements included one with a maximum age of under 4,400 years, and another with a minimum age of more than 4,500 years Problem is not even accuracy! No matter the accuracy, when you get ONLY results between 5 millions years old and 4 999 500 years old, it's hard to believe that the real result would be 3000... BADecker thinks God put less Carbon-14 in older objects... just to trick us into thinking he doesn't exist... if that makes sense? (makes no sense to me... why would God hide any/all evidence of creation?)
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you are right .. we are just choosing motives of our deaths.. hillary or trump there is no diffrence between them for me..
Well after all it's the case in most countries. You vote against a candidate more often than for a candidate :/ Why is the choice always the lesser of two evils? The proverbial douche-bag vs turd-sandwich...
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And now you're claiming philosophy is not a science?
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Moloch - I think you have something to answer for. I said I came across some quotes, not that I fact-checked them... I see plenty of sources attributing the quote to either man, and given that Blaise Pascal lived 300 years before Richard Jeni, I'd go with Pascal... I really don't care who said it first... it's a good quote
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I came across a few old quotes about religion...
A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is a superstition. -José Bergamín
You’re basically killing each other to see who’s got the better imaginary friend. -Blaise Pascal
If God has made us in his image, we have returned him the favor. -Voltaire
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There is an old saying, "Nothing fails like prayer"
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Sounds like they were simply practicing artificial selection... kill the weak and sickly to clean up the gene pool and make the future generations stronger... makes sense... we do it with dogs every day... I don't know. These tribals are very isolated. They don't know much about Western culture and modern medicine. I doubt whether they know anything about gene-pool and DNA. While they might not understand genetics, and passing along genes... I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to realize that the kid with 1 arm will be less useful to the village than the kid with 2 arms... If they have no arms, they are simply a burden and should be killed... that's small-village common sense IMHO... if you only have 20 men, you cannot afford to have a man with no arms... it's better to make a new baby next year
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I find it strange... The things you call truth, I call delusionde·lu·sion dəˈlo͞oZHən/ noun noun: delusion; plural noun: delusions
an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. "the delusion of being watched" synonyms: misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief; More fallacy, illusion, fantasy "was her belief in his fidelity just a delusion?" the action of deluding someone or the state of being deluded. "what a capacity television has for delusion" synonyms: misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief; fallacy, illusion, fantasy "was her belief in his fidelity just a delusion?" A truly delusional person does not know he/she is delusional. All we can hope is a small time window when his delusions will subside, then maybe he can see the reality as it is, even if it is for a brief moment. But then again, he might be far too gone to ever realize that he is in fact delusional. Sounds similar to serial killers... the vast majority of serial killers actually believe they are good people doing good deeds (often God's work)... delusional... I bet those dudes who flew airplanes into The World Trade Center thought they were good people doing God's work too... Religion is a mental disorder which makes "good" people do "evil" things, all the while thinking they are "the good guys"... because... God
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What a bunch of hypocrites! In 2015, the evangelical and Pentecostal groups petitioned the Brazilian supreme court to forcibly abduct children born to Amazonian Indians, and place them in orphanages run by these missionary groups. The reason - they want to protect the children from aboriginal infanticide.
I am not denying that the Amazonian Indians practice infanticide. But that is a very very rare practice. They do it only if the newborn child is deformed or affected by some serious medical condition which makes the chances of survival quite low. But the missionaries exaggerate this practice, and want to remove all the tribal children from their parents. YouTube is full of propaganda videos made by these missionaries, demonizing the aborigines. Reminds me of the "Stolen generations" tactic used by Australia.
And at the same time, the same group of people will justify the death of baby David Hickman,claiming that the baby was a martyr for Jesus.
Sounds like they were simply practicing artificial selection... kill the weak and sickly to clean up the gene pool and make the future generations stronger... makes sense... we do it with dogs every day... I'm not sure why Christians would steal tribal babies... I'd bet there is money involved... they probably sell the Amazonian children for a premium of $20,000
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Is it me or did BADecker stopped? Did we win gentlemen?
de-programming takes years.... He cannot get out of his cause & effect non argument, yet. I think he already gave up on his world complexity, entropy, nothing complex comes from less complex type of non arguments. He still equates Atheism with immorality. He struggles with the definition of Atheism. He probably thinks all Atheists have exactly the same world view on other, non-religious subjects. Like one Indian lawyer once said: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.Winning doesn't have to do with what anyone says. Winning has to do with the truth, and who remains living for all time. I find it strange... The things you call truth, I call delusion de·lu·sion dəˈlo͞oZHən/ noun noun: delusion; plural noun: delusions
an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. "the delusion of being watched" the action of deluding someone or the state of being deluded. "what a capacity television has for delusion" synonyms: misapprehension, misconception, misunderstanding, mistake, error, misinterpretation, misconstruction, misbelief; fallacy, illusion, fantasy "was her belief in his fidelity just a delusion?"
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Faith-healing couple who prayed and rubbed oil on the head of their sickly newborn instead of calling 911 WILL go to prison for letting him diehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3272728/Faith-healing-couple-prison-killing-newborn.htmlOregon must not be one of the 32 states (64% of America) where it is legal to murder your child and blame it on God... (Faith Healing laws) An Oregon couple who prayed and rubbed olive on their dying son following a home birth rather than call 911 and seek help will continue to serve six years in prison each after a judge upheld their manslaughter conviction.
Dale and Shannon Hickman, both 30, were both convicted in 2011 of second-degree manslaughter for the death of their son, David, who died nine hours after his home birth in 2009.
David was born two months early at his grandmother's home with undeveloped lungs, and died after having trouble breathing and turning blue.
The Hickman's - members of a controversial faith-healing church in Oregon - had appealed their conviction, on the grounds that the prosecution had the burden to prove the couple knew their religious beliefs would cause the death of their child, The New York Daily News reported.
But the plea was rejected by the Oregon Supreme Court last week.
Last week a judge rejected an appeal made by the couple and reiterated that they could have done more to try and save their son.
During the 2011 trial, a doctor had testified that David would have had a '99 percent chance' of surviving had the couple called 911.
The baby officially died of staphylococcus pneumonia, which could have been treated.
'As the evidence unfolded and the witnesses testified, it became evident to me and certainly to the jury … that this death just simply did not need to occur,' Judge Robert Herndon said.
Prosecutors explained during the trial that David was born with a bacterial infection and underdeveloped lungs.
Mr Hickman said he didn't call 911 because he was praying. The couple never considered taking the baby to the hospital, prosecutors said.
Shannon Hickman said that she must defer to her husband because of church rules.
'I think it's God's will whatever happens,' she testified.
The baby boy died quickly and there was no evidence that medical care would have saved him, Mark Cogan, defending, told the court.
The Followers of Christ Church has a history of rejecting medical care for children and relying on as prayer and anointing the sick with oils.
Five other church members have been convicted in Clackamas County for crimes related to the rejection of medical care for their children.
The Hickmans' conviction on second-degree manslaughter charges typically requires a mandatory minimum sentence of six years in prison.
But many feared that, because of a religious exemption in state law at time of the crime, they might have received just 18 months in prison and a $250,000 fine.
In response to deaths among Followers of Christ members, state lawmakers removed the religious defences from criminal laws this year.
Those exemptions had made it tougher to convict parents shunning a child's medical care for religious reasons instead of neglect.
The change will allow prosecutors to seek stiffer manslaughter or murder charges in faith-healing cases.
On Monday, Prosecutor Mike Regan said a message needed to be sent to the church that child abuse for any motive is still child abuse.
He said: 'These generally are good, decent, law-abiding folks, except in this one narrow area of their lives. One (area) where they have told us stubbornly – and arrogantly, if I may – that 'We are not going to change.'
'The law of civil society demands that they change. It demands that we sent a message to all of them that whether you believe this or not in Oregon, you cannot act upon that belief.'
Two other parents from the church were convicted earlier this year for failing to seek medical care for their infant daughter.
She had a growth that could have left her blind in one eye - and they were sentenced to three months in jail.
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The bigotry runs deep. Most people think Atheism means immorality. The word Atheist has a negative connotation. People associate word God with something good, noble, so no God means no good. Millennia of religious indoctrination are hard to reverse. This isn't bigotry. Most people simply doesn't like aggressive and arrogant dickheads, who used to humiliate them and mocking at their beliefs . If this isn't bigotry... pray tell us, what qualifies as bigotry? Calling for the murder of Atheists... simply because they do not believe your bullshit... isn't bigotry?!? (bear in mind, unlike the Christians who talk a big game, but are all bark and no bite... Muslims will fucking murder an Atheist without a second thought) big·ot·ry ˈbiɡətrē/ noun noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries
intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself. "the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"
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Atheism is poison, but only to atheists and those who follow atheism. I think atheism is atheism is atheist is atheist they will follow what they believe and want they want to believe just like us Christians we will believe that God is real, and we respect each beliefs but what the point is some of the atheist doesn't respect us and they are always persecuting us. Let me refer you to my previous comment: The only reason you hear anything at all from Atheists is because Christians can't mind their damn business... Christians keep making religious laws, hating gays, wasting money on 10-commandment statues and cop bumper stickers that say, "In God We Trust", just do be dicks... it's the Christians being fuckheads! If Christians would leave Atheists alone, we would quit bashing your stupid ass religion and let you believe whatever silly nonsense you want to believe But, since Christians constantly fail to mind their own business, we must defend ourselves... usually through logic and truth and reading you bible passages If atheists went into their closet, and didn't even propagate, we could all wait until the cancer of atheism died out. We could tell by the stench coming out of the closet. But now because atheists are spreading their poisonous cancer to many people, especially to the children, the only thing left for GOOD religious folks to do is to attempt to stamp out the cancer of atheism in every way possible. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I'm rubber you're gluehttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pot calling the kettle blackAt least be original with your trolling...
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Atheism is poison, but only to atheists and those who follow atheism. I think atheism is atheism is atheist is atheist they will follow what they believe and want they want to believe just like us Christians we will believe that God is real, and we respect each beliefs but what the point is some of the atheist doesn't respect us and they are always persecuting us. Let me refer you to my previous comment: The only reason you hear anything at all from Atheists is because Christians can't mind their damn business... Christians keep making religious laws, hating gays, wasting money on 10-commandment statues and cop bumper stickers that say, "In God We Trust", just do be dicks... it's the Christians being fuckheads! If Christians would leave Atheists alone, we would quit bashing your stupid ass religion and let you believe whatever silly nonsense you want to believe But, since Christians constantly fail to mind their own business, we must defend ourselves... usually through logic and truth and reading you bible passages
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(anti-Atheist bigotry removed)
Failure to follow simple instructions: Watch the video before commenting with more bigotry
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How embarrassing it must be to have tools like BADecker represent your religion?
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I am a little surprised that Bernie Sanders is doing so well. But both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are not the typical politician like the rest of them are. Maybe this is a sign that the country is tired of the bought politicians. I have to admit that I don't know who Jeremy Corbyn is, sorry.
Both parties are sick of the establishment, who only cares about the billionaires... Trump vs Bernie 2016... I called it a year ago
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