You've got no choice except to pay them because they're not bound for the changes that you make with your coin and here, it's all about supply and blockchain and that's what you're changing here so I don't think that any exchange would help you in this case. At least they're allowing you to list it back there for 1/3rd the price. You must have undergone through an agreement to save yourself if you would have known that such situation could arise. Now, if you're not fine with your current selected blockchain on which your coin is working and its supply, you'll have to deal with this.

P.S.: Go for another exchange if you get a refund from them. Additionally, please share all the information rather than providing half of it as it helps us to understand your case better.

Good post, I've made some posts that speak the same thing but are done differently.

Don't FOMO in if you don't have what it takes - PATIENCE! - This one discusses patience

Bitcoin Ledger and other hardware related questions.

WTS my smartphone but I've got crypto in it. HELP! - These two discuss about carefulness

We should be really convinced about our money and make decisions carefully in complete sense as this is crypto where we're the responsible authority for anything that occurs with us - be it SCAM, LOSS or THEFT. It's our sheer responsibility to combat these by -

- Trading with what we can afford to lose
- Not going all in
- Not to trust anybody so easily and at least use an escrow for any deals (I believe this is affordable)
- Save our wallets being hacked by putting a passphrase and a 2FA as it is a must (some even allow 2FA through SMS)
- Last but not least, be a responsible member of the community and let everyone know if we get scammed by anyone (so to save others from being a victim)

At least he maintained to get out with a 30% loss that was his own money while he put the remaining 70% money he took from his Dad. He just repaid his Dad by redeeming all that he had in BTC when the fall took place. But what remains is regret and the psychology remains the same that nobody else can actually give any suggestions to these kinda people because they're too impatient to even listen to us or anybody who goes to them and ask them to wait. Some people even sell in helplessness due to need of Fiat (local currency) on hands, which is why it's said that hodling is not an act of the impatient and needy ones and the needy I'm talking about here are those who either live entirely on BTC earnings / profits / hodlings or (like I said) helplessness.

And what if I need those addresses in the wallet I use in my current smartphone? Then I'll need to do anything to save it from being hacked, right? I can't stop using that wallet as it contains most of the addresses that verify me (e.g.: my profile BTC address) basically for my identity.

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Android 7.0 (I guess it's Nougat maybe).


You mean this should be done after I transfer (backup) all my files / privkeys / wallets to another device, right?

Like HCP said, what if my friend wants to go online occasionally on this PC? What exactly is to be done with that root kits thing? And can't they do anything with the certificates/signatures installed for each app before and after?

And going online through a smartphone (via HotSpot) or through WiFi Modem (Broadband service) makes any difference? He wants to use PC as an offline storage for crypto, but does that mean that he cannot go online even for other curricular things he needs to do in life?

@OP,
Instead of accusing each other, can any of you come up with these things?

- Your Skype chats' screenshots
- Transaction ID over blockchain if payment was made in BTC (for OP)
- Any screenshot if it was paid in Fiat or through any other medium
- Full agreement to be pasted by both the vendor (supplier) of the site and the vendee (as it will clearly show us who teased with the agreement and how)

I'm asking these because just accusations won't work out for anyone here and you need evidence(s) to prove it all here.

Great move played by OP as it looks like either a PR or the OP is himself too much impressed by Binance. No doubt Binance is "one of its kind" of an exchange but not the best one as I believe that whatever has its wings limited to centralization cannot be considered best. Okay, I can consider Binance to be the best among all the "Centralized exchanges".

But here I'd like to ask you to please review DEXes rather than going for centralized ones (as whatever you mentioned in OP shows you've only reviewed CEXes). I want to know which exchange you will consider to be the best DEX (Decentralized Exchange) among the list of a very few DEXes while listing all the features we cannot find anywhere else (except that DEX).

@OP,
If you decide to go through this suggestion, please beware about the risks here if you download it from an unofficial source

Please use GitHub only for this -

https://github.com/pywallet/PyWallet?files=1

Bitcoin wallet importer/exporter by jackjack-jj

pywallet-win-files (probably Windows related files as they're in .bat format by jackjack-jj

Hope this helps you get back your BTC.

One different question than what I've asked here

I've got a smartphone that's gone old and I wanna sell it so that it helps me pay at least 1 EMI for my next new smartphone. Well there's a catch, I've got all my crypto and privkeys as well as wallets (even exchange apps) installed in my current smartphone but to my knowledge, I think the new owner is able to fetch almost everything if he knows about crypto or he's got any sort of technical knowledge about how to restore everything or at least something that I used to have in my smartphone even after factory-resetting it without keeping any backups in that smartphone.

Is that possible at the first place?
If yes, should I even sell it to anyone or not? If yes, what type of preventive measures should be taken to assure myself that my crypto is safe after my smartphone is sold and given to the buyer?

I can totally understand that but those who are interested in acknowledging the technology by using it and if they don't have much to spend upon it or willingly uninterested to do so (like newbies with least information or others with some information but don't want to spend higher), while they can get it for almost 50 - 70% less (maybe the hardware could be a first copy - pirated kinda and not the original one or even a 2nd hand but original Ledger wallet) will definitely give it a shot rather than going for the official one, no?

Is anybody here aware of Black Friday deals on such hardware during that event? If yes, what's the least one can purchase them for? And are they original too or they should also be considered 2nd hand?

A question somewhat related to this topic:
My friend purchased a 2nd hand PC and the person he bought it from, used to mine alts in it which clearly means that the previous owner held crypto in it (maybe BTC too).

So, to save the current owner (my friend) from any possible malware the old owner may have had installed in this PC, what should we do to prevent ourselves? Will a complete OS change work out? Like if we install new Windows without keeping old Windows.dat file in his PC, can we consider ourselves safe in this situation? He wants to use it mostly as an offline mode of storing his crypto there in his PC. Is he safe if we do it like that here?

Amazon? Are such hardware wallets sold on Amazon officially (or by the official team) or are you going to buy a 2nd hand device over there?

That's pretty irresponsible if you ask me!
Anyone, and I warn you all, everyone of you should tie a knot that you should never, ever take credits (or debts) to invest in crypto or any other asset which takes investments because things are uncertain and once it goes against you, you may lose other's money and managing it back may cost you a lifetime which none of you would want, right? So invest your money only that you own yourself, that you can call to be yourself and that you can afford to lose.


This is even worst, because trying to repay a loan through an extra debt (we know as debt refinance) is like taking a dip in the swimming pool when you're counting on your last breathe and you don't even know swimming.


They probably had the worst luck then.

One of my friends bought BTC when it reached $13.5k (yes, he FOMO'd in at very high rate).

After that, BTC crossed $13950 and almost reached $14k (though it didn't touch there) and that was his target but missed by some bucks.

And here comes the dump which shot down BTC to $9800 (yesterday) and he just lost his patience and sold off everything (what a chaotic loss of more than 30%) and it was actually predicted - https://www.ccn.com/opinion/day-trader-warns-of-impending-40-bitcoin-price-drop/2019/06/28/

I told him about this and asked him to wait but he sold off everything without letting me know. Now, he's regretting for his wrong decisions. I'd suggest you to think at least 10 times before investing because if you don't have the appetite to hold on during your losses, trust me you don't deserve a f**k in profits. Patience is the key and it pays off, it is actually paying off those who bought during 2017-18 highs but held their investments without touching it.

I'm biased on my decision here as some here believe that factory-resetting it could save me even on a 2nd hand hardware too? What's your take on this?


Ok, I've got one more question about official hardware (from their official website).

What IF:
- I use official ledger hardware on a compromised PC?
- Isn't Ledger's official hardware prone to clipboard copy-paste scams where you copy a BTC address and a malware detects and changes it to another address? Is such hardware safe from it?


I got that, you actually got me wrong there.
You're mistaken here as you are taking it like $10 discount but I've asked my question based on - if some sellers sell it way cheaper for a measly $10 - $20 as that's what lures cheap buyers to fall for these deals.

What if someone goes for cheap (2nd hand) hardware rather than buying it from official website just because s/he may be getting it for way cheaper (like 10-20 bucks)?

And even if the website is one of the most trustworthy *sellers, what if they're giving these hardware at discounted rates (not so cheap but hey, who doesn't like saving)? Can these hardware also be one of the used ones? Can they also attach a malware in those hardware?

*By saying Sellers, I didn't mean they cannot sell you vulnerable devices are their entire credibility gets limited to being trusted in terms of selling and after that, consequences may be different than what we expect once we've got some coins in that hardware.

In simple words, public permissionless blockchain doesn't need a specific group of people to be authorized to validate transactions from their end only (which translates it to centralization), rather they take all the nodes into consideration and each node helps validate the transactions when run on the network and cannot be stopped by a single entity and needs the consensus of every single party involved in the network as a whole as it's all peer-to-peer (which translates it to decentralization).

Are you extremely stupid or just trying to pretend?
I mean, I'm neither in favor of OP nor you, but you should know how cleverly OP played by not sharing the name of the casino here, else wouldn't the casino site get their bells rung about this and they will try everything to stop everyone from using the glitch this bot is better at?
Why not PM the guy and ask him about the site rather than pinching him on giving you the name publicly?


Well, while the guy is speaking about rolls, it should be dice. Common sense.


Depends, and yes I believe that there are many bots available for dice games but none of them tell you what you said in your 2nd point -

What the fuck? Are you on weed or cocaine, man?
Why the heck are you speaking all this here when this thread has no fucking relationship to yobit and OP is trying to rent their own signature space? Can't you see that OP straight away neglected that Yoshit support (fake account's) comment and asked for anyone else? Blind, eh!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159189.0 <-- Go to that link and spread more shit than you're trying to do here, and stop ruining this thread with your bullshit yoshit comments.

Do you really expect that to happen again when there's a lot on the table? Who would want to see alts killing this BTC "dominance" when most of them really have no value?



Nah, this time these kids have got a new toy to play with, and that's leveraged trading. When they can easily make x times while trading on BTC in which they actually believe, why would they put their money back into alts?
2017 was a gift for alts (even shitcoins rose badly more than 10-50x and some did 100x too) and such alts don't deserve those price tags they've had during those "good days". This time, it's the King Bitcoin that would only let the best ones survive after it stabilizes somewhere but I see null possibilities for alts to rise till then. Even awesome projects like NPXS, ZRX, ZIL, NEO, NANO, WAN, etc. are suffering from the ultimate destructive havoc created by BTC for them.


I don't think it's just institutional investors alone, but an inclusion of every single Bitcoiner who became mature enough to understand the markets and act accordingly.
To me, fundamentals don't work here but technicals as to my knowledge, this isn't forex and we need to buy the rumors, sell the news .

Local board is a good place especially because you can find your local people there, and even if your meet-up is potentially possible, what if the investors reside in a country far from yours?

Instead of finding investors, emphasize on trying to get potential customers to your site directly by adding those unique games to the site you were talking about, and open a pot with relatively levelled investments where some % of your profits are ensured to be given to them.
In this way, your customers will only become your investors so you won't need to look for them anywhere else.