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2201  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: July 20, 2019, 01:39:45 PM
Erderwärmung und Überbevölkerung sind in den Augen von Wirtschaftspolitikern leider auch bloss Geschäftsfelder.

Das ist für die verschiedenen Branchen sogar ein gigantisch gutes Geschäft. Vor allem wenn man unter den Bürgern so viele willige Mitläufer findet, die sich für seinen eigenen Geldbeutel und gegen deren eigene Interessen aufhetzen lassen.

Am Ende kommt dann so etwas heraus wie das EEG. Bringt zwar weder den zahlenden Bürgern etwas, noch löst es auch nur ein grundsätzliches Problem, aber die Initiatoren verdienen sich dumm und dämlich damit.


Leider ist die Bevormundung durch den Staat durch kaum wissenschaftlich fundierten Technobubble oder waage Gefahren ein leidiges Übel und kosted Bürger Unsummen an Geld und Politikvertrauen.

Ein schlanker Staat ala need to have und nicht mehr wäre ein gutes Ziel dass hoffentlich friedlich zu erreichen ist...
2202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 20, 2019, 01:31:57 PM
1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown

'The coin' is actually BitCoin as it was supposed to be and on purpose.

It is a great luck that big guys with decent mind set support it AS IS.

No Segshit

No CTor

No LN

No RBF

No DSV

No Checkpoints

No crap injected by dev middle men


I like that
2203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 20, 2019, 01:27:24 PM
BSV = current ticker for BitCoin (established 2009)

everything else is scam imo

Oof, son... You are in for a rude awakening.

There's already a big block solution for bitcoin, its the namesake of this thread, and its blocks are sparsely full. Why would you think the world needs yet another bitcoin imitator after the first one has thusfar failed to gain any mainstream traction?

Average BCH block size: 149 kb
Average BSV block size: 330 kb
Average BTC block size: 910 kb



Your static mind will never get where things are taken by dynamics.

As ur dumb trolling- static and same dumb all day long
2204  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 20, 2019, 01:25:03 PM
At 1TB week is 52 TB year

I thought Craigy's policy all along was that they don't want little people involved in the running of BSV.

Anything that makes it more centralised is a welcome development in their eyes. Presumably the end game is one datacentre with him masturbating furiously every time those 'gigamegs' get bigger.

No, the good thing is that many trustworthy institutions will run enough infrastructure for anyone in the world, and hobby guys can still run btc raspi shit.
2205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum SCAM? on: July 19, 2019, 08:49:59 PM
This topic was created as early as June 2017 and may have had a compromising character for ethereum.  Two years have passed since then, and even if you look at the situation through the prism of the poor state of the cryptocurrency market over the past year, the ethereum has already proved its importance and perspectivity.  I think that even the name of this topic is no longer relevant.

Its importance to lower barriers for scam icos . Yey

2206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 19, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
To enable and foster global trade with cheap but safe use of the open blockchain concept, only proven to work by Bitcoin, we need an absolute stable reliable scalable protocol and system for that bootstrapping

We see it coming

https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1152176762287284225

Good news for good use

Except speculation
2207  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 19, 2019, 06:40:28 AM
Does anyone know if media will be allowed during the upcoming trial date?

There will be a closed hearing on 5th of August, my guess is that at least half of the day will be closed for public and half open so you can try. I know attorney Stephen D. Palley was reporting from last hearing, the open part.

No - he wasn't there.. he just has his own views  Roll Eyes
2208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 16, 2019, 07:03:07 AM
who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

The present state of BSV is that Craig's evidence that he might have been Satoshi (or at least 1/2 of Satoshi) has been thoroughly ridiculed in and out of court, forcing Craig's laywers to withdrawal the bulk of it, as it appears it was forged by Craig.

Let's be honest: As a fork of a fork that is attempting to emulate an early, antiquated version of the Bitcoin protocol, BSV doesn't have the technical merits to stand on its own legs, which is why Craig is making such a to-do about being Satoshi.

One needn't look any further than BSV's price action in response to the whole copyright filing fake news job by Coingeek to see that most of BSV's market cap rests on the fallacy that Wright is Satoshi.


From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

At least your rehashing this tired garbage for the umpteenth time in the correct thread.


Your life must be easy if you can correlate some fiat price to a prejudge / proof  - too trolly


 Tongue
 
2209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 16, 2019, 05:35:59 AM
who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,


Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

Yes... case in point, above = wishful thinking.

I don't really feel inclined to argue with you about your various bullshit including your strong presumption that something is broken in regards to bitcoin's current scaling dynamic that includes segregated witness and the building upon various segregated witness solutions.  I consider the bcasher arguments to be bunk in that regard...

But perhaps setting apart your possible blindspot (subconscious perhaps?) desire to pump your bags, let's just assume for the sake of argument that segregated witness is flawed.. which is a BIG ASS assumption that is the wet dream of basher nutjobs, but let's merely attempt to focus, for the sake of argument, on network effects.

Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer?  You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV?  You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv? 

I kind of already know your answer is going to be to assert that they are going to just move over to bcash sv, and surely, from my thinking, just to preemptively strike your anticipated bullshit response, your anticipated bullshit response is going to be filled with some decently large ass assumptions that have to be built upon and built upon and built upon in order for your fantasy of bitcoin network effects moving over to bcash to be even close to being a feasible proposal (beyond pure fantasy).  Good luck bcash svers with the fantasies built on a large as house of cards that is constructed with assumption, after assumption after assumption, each of which must stand before the fantasy of jbreher and other bcashers is even close to being feasible, even if the other part of the most bitcoin of the bitcoins were to be true beyond a lovely marketing expression that tries to take bcash out of its name.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Again: BTC Network effect is only about hodl and scam newbees to buy and hodl

Satosh is about the global data ledger - that solves many problems.

Compete - just hate will lead u nowhere
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 16, 2019, 05:27:21 AM
who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?


Pump and dump scamcoin BSV has been doing pretty good on a price performance level in recent times, if we take a 3 month view....

Good luck gambling your assets on that shit.  You might get lucky, if those scamming nutjobs are ready, willing and able to pump more capital into that shady-ass shenanigans crap.

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin, but I understand that wanna get rich folks don't mind gambling on crap and don't have enough patience or even understanding about what the fuck bitcoin is in order to invest in  actual bitcoin rather than smoke and mirrors that may or may not end up paying off in terms of having any kind of meaningful and lasting pump potential that allows you to get in and out before its inevitable trip to zero.. but that trip to zero could be 10 years away, so invest the fuck into that crap if you are in the land of wishfulness that might end up paying off.

The only idiots telling ppl about gambeling, speculation and hodle are you guys.

Bitcoin is FIRST a immutable data ledger, the only one that worked, cause it needed an incentive (read the refs from the White Paper)

This incentive got perverted by the troll Level usecase - hodl.

Satoshi Vision is not about hodl, but about the data ledger and its commodity like value.


The bad message for hodl trolls is: we cannot fix u - caus hodl Virus eats ur tiny (small blocked) Brains - nothing left
2211  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 15, 2019, 01:21:33 PM
and if u are not a miner, u just slow down the Network by factor of 36 - haha- nice

Seems like you posses the right level of intelligence for a CSW cult member, well done.

Nope - I'm just a protocol minimalist
2212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 15, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
Real use check https://www.payfast.co.za/

Forget fiat price and speculation trolls - they don't care for Bitcoin.

2213  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 15, 2019, 12:14:18 PM
I smell fear in this thread.

Right, thanks for blessing our thread with your posting, it means some SV people have taken notice.

Care to expand on what we should be afraid of, or why?

I only smell fear coming from BSV shills.

As a project, BSV is a joke, especially the big blocks that will centralize the joke even more (nodes will fall) before killing it. If average joe can not run his own fullnode, it's not Bitcoin.

Right now, I've 36 connections on my Bitcoin fullnode, using one of my HDD (yeah, not even a SSD).


and if u are not a miner, u just slow down the Network by factor of 36 - haha- nice
2214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 15, 2019, 12:10:44 PM
why the capitalisation dipped by 2 times compared to bnb? previously were the same

No, they were never the same, except for a few fleeting moments. BNB has clearly been ahead since mid February.

The answer to your question is simple: one is a pump n dump shitcoin led by an egomaniac and the other is Binance Coin.

What is a shitcoin ? Bitcoin is not pumped and dumped ? It's not just an unknow man  ? All of the coin are shitcoin or all of the coin could be the same thing as a real money.

You could be a troll or not...

BNB is the same thing than all other coin... And BSV or BTC too  !

BNB has a perfectly functionnal usecase.

Bitcoin does too: store of wealth and everyday payments with LN.

No need of a fork of a fork of Bitcoin.

No need for the messy segwit fork of the original Satoshi's vision.  yes, u might learn this - as well as Bitcoin was build as  an immutable time stamping System - not a speculation coin that bring up only trolls within a lightening.
2215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 15, 2019, 06:12:27 AM
why the capitalisation dipped by 2 times compared to bnb? previously were the same

Who knows, what speculation fights are about. This is not the 'use case' for Bitcoin
- speculation has rather killed the use cases that will help ppl to live better by been payed directly for their work. Yes also tiny amounts for no fees.
2216  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 14, 2019, 02:59:28 PM
I saw in this thread some CSW shill advertising 1GB blocks on BSV; maybe this is the test on mainnet ?
This could also be a "spam attack". Would be funny to see their 1GB blocks starting to fill and being broadcast all over the network. Tongue
With a few dozens of such blocks, I believe BSV would die.

They are supposed to implement 2 GB blocks before the end of the month. With some persistent spamming, this could add 2 terabytes to the BSV blockchain each week. After a couple months of filling blocks to capacity, the number of BSV nodes would sure drop off almost completely, as only those with the biggest hard drives will be capable of running a node. Even if the spam attack is carried out slowly, the BSV blockchain could become unmanageably large by the end of the year.

Small brainers can only think (lol) about such.

 Grin
2217  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 13, 2019, 07:09:48 PM

The irony, for me, would be if Craig is ordered to pay an amount based on a fabricated agreement, that he actually created. Funny.

But again, if a financial settlement is reached in favour of Ira, the amounts seem so large ($ or BTC), Craig aint paying, so.....

For the purpose of discussion lets assume that a large judgement is made against Craig: This in my opinion is likely to be the scenario:

The court is not interested in what he can control or owns now. It is interested in the amount he allegedly stole from Dave.

The value of the judgement is likely to be based on the bitcoins Satoshi owned - since Craig claims to be Satoshi

If he is caught lying about assets he owns or owned then he will not be discharged from bankruptcy.

If it is proven that the trusts or companies were funded by fraud or part of the fraud then the trusts and companies will become able to be seized.

If a judgement is made in favor of Ira then Craig will have to hand over control of all the assets and companies that he owns and controls.

It means that company documents and trust documents come under the control of a liquidator.

The irony of a large judgement is that he would have to prove he never owned certain assets to avoid having to pay for owning them. That would trigger other legal issues.

Since some of it may not exist - there is a predicament in itself. How do you prove that something that you claimed existed - doesn't exist.

If he decides later to say he lied and is not Satoshi then it means he perjured himself in court, lied on copyright applications and possibly on patent applications too.

It also could mean that he obtained public speaking fees by deception. It also could mean that he publicly called some very wealthy people liars by threatening to sue them for libel.

It will be substantially different from the ATO situation which affected some of his companies. A judgement in this case will be against him personally but will also affect any funds that may have flowed from him personally to companies or trusts.

Revelations in this case could also trigger further consequences with the ATO.


Yep screwed, when you put it like that. I wonder how strong that relationship/agreement is, with Calvin Ayre......

 

U guys getting closer. But i d rather ask how strong the relationship is between CSW and original Bitcoin.

There is no relation between CSW and Bitcoin. He didn't do shit. He's not Satoshi and didn't code anything. He didn't mine it early either.

Tutut triggered. Lol
2218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: July 13, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
ETH will allow $2T of underground economy to become more structured (and possibly less underground) through DAOs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/23/americas-2-trillion-shadow-economy-is-the-recessions-big-winner/

If it captures 1% of that $2T, it is equivalent to $20B, which would put ETH somewhere around $150. Those who sell for $2 will shit bricks, eat sand and may even commit suicide in the years to come. If it captures 10% of that ETH will be $1500. I know it sounds crazy, but so did the Internet in 1995.

Once it's launched their main focus will be on scalability, which I think is the real reason crypto is not ready for mainstream. Once they can handle 100K TPS (and I'm sure they will), it's game over.
I think Bitclin has more edge than Ethereum in terms  of having a bright future because Ethereum was always used into making shitcoins Bitcoin still stands the same with no alternate currency for it.during the red market. Ethereum was down by almost half while bitcoin only down by 1/4 of it. As it stands, Bitcoin has more potential than ethereum. and thats a fact.

ETH and BTC getting killed by central devs and leaders altering the protocol to their hidden agenda. So that's not the original and winning strategy of original Bitcoin.  Find out what will win finally
2219  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 13, 2019, 12:22:44 PM

The irony, for me, would be if Craig is ordered to pay an amount based on a fabricated agreement, that he actually created. Funny.

But again, if a financial settlement is reached in favour of Ira, the amounts seem so large ($ or BTC), Craig aint paying, so.....

For the purpose of discussion lets assume that a large judgement is made against Craig: This in my opinion is likely to be the scenario:

The court is not interested in what he can control or owns now. It is interested in the amount he allegedly stole from Dave.

The value of the judgement is likely to be based on the bitcoins Satoshi owned - since Craig claims to be Satoshi

If he is caught lying about assets he owns or owned then he will not be discharged from bankruptcy.

If it is proven that the trusts or companies were funded by fraud or part of the fraud then the trusts and companies will become able to be seized.

If a judgement is made in favor of Ira then Craig will have to hand over control of all the assets and companies that he owns and controls.

It means that company documents and trust documents come under the control of a liquidator.

The irony of a large judgement is that he would have to prove he never owned certain assets to avoid having to pay for owning them. That would trigger other legal issues.

Since some of it may not exist - there is a predicament in itself. How do you prove that something that you claimed existed - doesn't exist.

If he decides later to say he lied and is not Satoshi then it means he perjured himself in court, lied on copyright applications and possibly on patent applications too.

It also could mean that he obtained public speaking fees by deception. It also could mean that he publicly called some very wealthy people liars by threatening to sue them for libel.

It will be substantially different from the ATO situation which affected some of his companies. A judgement in this case will be against him personally but will also affect any funds that may have flowed from him personally to companies or trusts.

Revelations in this case could also trigger further consequences with the ATO.


Yep screwed, when you put it like that. I wonder how strong that relationship/agreement is, with Calvin Ayre......

 

U guys getting closer. But i d rather ask how strong the relationship is between CSW and original Bitcoin.

With little more own intellectual PoW it is doable
2220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: July 13, 2019, 07:52:54 AM
U can earn money

https://twitter.com/BWDaugherty/status/1149495311762460679

Or via yours.org  or streamanty.com
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