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1421  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 06, 2020, 12:40:12 PM

Nothing really proven here - ur heavy bags just making sth up

get rid of any position talk and switch on analytical thinking : WHAT IS BITCOIN

there is no ticker talk

I've already provided ample evidence of his "copyright fraud", academic plagiarism  and court documents that describe him providing false documents.

Just look back in this thread.

In 2004 he was convicted of contempt of court by the Supreme Court of New South Wales. That decision was upheld on appeal in 2005 and 2006.

His businesses were put into liquidation by the Australian Tax Office.


Wizsec also provided plenty of proof:

https://blog.wizsec.jp/2018/02/kleiman-v-craig-wright-bitcoins.html
https://blog.wizsec.jp/2019/05/kleiman-v-craig-wright-part-2.html
https://blog.wizsec.jp/2019/07/kleiman-v-craig-wright-part-3.html
https://blog.wizsec.jp/2019/08/kleiman-v-craig-wright-part-4.html#more
https://blog.wizsec.jp/2019/08/kleiman-v-wright-part-5.html


I've also posted technical details as to how much it would cost to operate and maintain a BSV node.

At 1 MB, that is 51.36 GB if all blocks are full.
At 1 GB, that is 51.36 TB if all blocks are full.
And we want 2 GB?
2 GB means nearly 1TB every week. That is quite the expensive node.

At 1TB week is 52 TB year

@$50 per TB storage.

>$2500 per year on hardware storage costs @ raid 0

So the proof is all there.

Funny - your level is still down in the ano - anarcho - twitter troll base

Nothing you prove

come up in real life - as CSW  IS up to

-see - you ano trolls just have no chance to proof anything

Nice day
1422  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: February 06, 2020, 12:05:20 PM
Die $10K sind diesen Monat oder spätestens im März geknackt  Grin


vielleicht auch nicht

wird wieder zeit für den alltimeklassiker Grin



aber im zweifelsfall immer an folgendes bild denken.



dann ist wird alles gut Cool
Was hat der Julian Hosp jetzt schon wieder am laufen ? Redet über die nächste Killer-APP ala Chainlink oder so  Grin
Da muss mich mal einer aufklären da ich nicht mehr auf dem aktuellen Stand bin

HEX HOSP ? was auch immer

Bitcoin 's ureigenste Idee zieht leider immer wieder Scammer / Tritbrettfahrer an

Der Regulator / Industrie schaut nich mehr lange zu

1423  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 06, 2020, 08:08:06 AM

True, but not really our buisiness - or u are involved?

BitCoin - original vision - not affected at all

Unfortunately it does affect everything. Conmen don't advertise themselves as conmen.
They usually get caught over time. Conmen harm society and communities.

To do nothing is as bad as endorsing it.

Registering IP, patents and copyright or claiming authorship or ownership over public domain, inventions or writings of others or over MIT licensed IP affects everyone in the industry.

By creating a shitcoin and using the gains from such shitcoin to fund a campaign of lies and attacks on the public ownership and IP rights of those that are interested in making the world a better place makes it everyones business.

Surely you must agree that if CSW has lied about being Satoshi then he has been attempting to steal the rights to  intelectual property that he has no right to. If he is not Satoshi then BSV is build on a fraud.

Claiming wallet addesses - in US court and to the australian tax authority - that are not his can have bad consequences for the real owners of those wallets.

The large block size will prevent BSV from being decentralized. The average person would not be able to afford the storage required to run a node long term. Decentralization is paramount in a peer to peer network.



Nothing really proven here - ur heavy bags just making sth up

get rid of any position talk and switch on analytical thinking : WHAT IS BITCOIN

there is no ticker talk
1424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 05, 2020, 03:19:47 PM
Open your eyes folks. There are accounts being created here specifically to create alternative facts for the defamation purpose of BSV, it’s on someone’s agenda to fund these people out of fear. BSV is the ONLY coin in a bull market right now. Look at the facts.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And this comes from a person who only talks about BSV, his entire history of comments are exclusively from BitcoinScamVersion.
If you don't get paid for this, you're just too fucking stupid   Wink

You must know what you try to cast from yourself to others

Nope - BitCoin is the thing - just bettter without any devs / trolls / PoSM

Only PoW and miners run that


Keep the protocol simple and out of btc's ponzi realm

Build
1425  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 05, 2020, 03:16:18 PM

#metoo

The issue is, there is 'voted' by 'counts' - incl lots of sockpuppets - not on clear thinkin.

We can not sort out that one just in forums - markets and judges are needed here

I hear them coming

Yep so far the judges have called him a liar.


Source: https://www.coindesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Order-_CSW.pdf

He gave conflicting evidence in two different courts.  Grin


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4462663-24-4.html#document/p5/a423127


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4460911-DE-12-00-2018-04-16-Motion-to-Dismiss-the.html

Judgement is coming....

True, but not really our buisiness - or u are involved?

BitCoin - original vision - not affected at all
1426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 05, 2020, 07:02:44 AM
a proven Bitcoin hater - what would you expect ?

Now I understand why you're always talking about BitCoin





LoL

Posting and beleiving PoSM is  negative IQ - no further proof needed

 Grin


While you re lookin for spam down the internet - IQ ppl are building


https://coingeek.com/lin-zheming-bsv-has-enabled-developers-to-finally-build-on-bitcoin-video/
 Wink
1427  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 05, 2020, 06:45:23 AM
Member from early 2012 reporting in. BSV is the BitCoin I signed up for in 2011. It's the only one out there that keeps the promise of the whitepaper. Now with the block size limit removed it serves as empirical evidence that Satoshi's plan for scaling actually works. Blockstream bois got it all wrong after all. Time to start admitting mistakes.

Are you certain ?

https://thedailychain.com/satoshi-on-scaling/

Yes I am certain.

#metoo

The issue is, there is 'voted' by 'counts' - incl lots of sockpuppets - not on clear thinkin.

We can not sort out that one just in forums - markets and judges are needed here

I hear them coming
1428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO]The Empirical Proof of Bitcoin's Real Value Being Zero on: February 04, 2020, 06:16:31 PM
Using a thing for want satisfying means utilizing or consuming a thing. It doesn't mean transferring a thing from one person to another. Nobody can utilize or consume bitcoin.

If I use a house for satisfying the want of shelter, I do not "consume" the house.  If I use a car for satisfying the want of transportation, I do not "consume" the car. If I use gold for satisfying the want of store and transfer of value, I do not "consume" the gold.

That's just more nonsense.

Yes it is my definition of a financial instrument. So?

So, Bitcoin doesn't fit your definition of a "Financial Instrument", and therefore should not be considered a "Financial Instrument" for the purposes of this conversation.

Bitcoin issuers are those who wrote the whitepaper, released the bitcoin software and launched the network.

Not true.

There was no payment made for any of those things.  Those individuals provided a service (for free), and issued nothing.

If I write a whitepaper about how the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank works, it does not make the issuer of U.S. dollars.  If I write software that the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank uses to track the dollars that it issues, it does not make me the issuer of U.S. dollars.  If I set up a network for the U.S. Federal Reserve to operate their systems, it does not make me the issuer of U.S. dollars.

This is just more nonsense.

Bitcoins don't just pop up into existence from nowhere. They have issuers like everything else.

They actually do "pop up into existence".  Or, perhaps you could think of it more like, they always have been and always will be in existence, they are just "found" (much like gold).

Finally, Bitcon is not gold.

Correct.  It is Bitcoin.  If it was gold, it wouldn't be worth as much.

Gold is an actual, tangible good that has value on its own.

Bitcoin is an actual intangible good that has value on its own.

Bitcoin is a number - a mathematical abstraction next to your virtual address.

Bitcoin is much more than that.

On its own it's worthless.

Clearly not.

You are doing nothing but playing semantics and red herring.

I've said utilizing or consuming. You utilize a car. You consume an apple.

Bitcoin fits my definition of a financial instruments as Bitcon is a record and all financial instruments are digital or paper records that are worthless on their own. But, Bitcoins lacks the fundamental feature for which all financial instruments exist in the first place, and that is to provide payment to their holders. Bitcon pays nothing. Hence, it is a worthless financial instrument.

Bitcoins don't pop up into existence, but are put into existence by design. That means they have issuers.

Declaring Bitcoin an actual intangible good doesn't make it valuable.

Bitcoin has some non-classical fundamental features, not easy to see like

Commodity without a weight ( easy to transport)
Programmable , it could automatically settle, pay (dividends), change ownership, show receipts and trace ( to auditors)
Interoperable, feature atomic swaps, smart contracts on oracle conditions...
Micropayments to reduce spam if used as underlying for mail, google search,....
Only public ledger I know that works for all ( if fully scaled in data centers , like Satoshi told us...)

....


That s cool?
1429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 04, 2020, 04:27:24 PM
Can I ask where you grabbed this screenshot from? It looks like Blockchair but I can't quite find it.

I stole it from my friend Alistair
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1224663617565532167

He took it from here https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/nodes

a proven Bitcoin hater - what would you expect ?


here ya go
https://coinswitch.co/news/bitcoin-sv-fork-all-about-upcoming-bsv-fork-bitcoin-sv-hard-fork

and

sv.coin.dance
1430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 04, 2020, 02:21:20 PM
Now we have 3 chains, which one is Satoshi's "VISION"? The real vision i mean...   Grin




Can I ask where you grabbed this screenshot from? It looks like Blockchair but I can't quite find it.

check

sv.coin.dance

620603   13 minutes ago   0x20000000   Coingeek   351   139.11
1431  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2020, 10:10:46 AM
Quote
and in a patent attempt to avoid discovery, Craig has claimed that the bonded courier is an attorney and his communications are privileged. Def. Jan. 28, 2020
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.389.0.pdf

Wait, so now the mysterious bonded courier, who Faketoshi knew nothing about or when/if he'd even show up, showed up with a list of public keys and also a law degree? Do many couriers work as part time attorneys Huh You can't make this shit up! Bravo CSW! BRAVO!!

One have to acknowledge that the guy is a first class troll. None of that shit will hold in the end at the court. It is just a matter of time. Wonder what his plan is... if he really have one (probably don't). Sometimes I think he has a terminal illness (besides the mental one) and he think he will be dead by the time all his lies crumble catastrophically (jail/bankruptcy).


Satoshi was 'trolling' all the central banks, all the hobby crypto creators - a lot of incompetent ppl  - first class

and he had no time to convince all
1432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO]The Empirical Proof of Bitcoin's Real Value Being Zero on: February 04, 2020, 09:20:52 AM
Fortunately, Bitcoin has "real value", so market value doesn't matter.
Segwit killed that

It did not.

Price is not value btw

Correct.  Bitcoin has value. Coincidentally, it also has price, but price is only an attempt by the markets to try to determine what that value might be.


What do you think is mostly driving price up for BTC ?

I'm convinced it is only speculation.


Bitcoin is a protocol for value TRANSFER / audit  with its ledger

BSV has more value such  https://coingeek.com/the-next-genesis-bitcoins-two-beginnings/
1433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Uber or Airbnb running on bitcoin on: February 04, 2020, 07:47:56 AM
Would be natural they sort out for Origianl & Scalable Bitcoin as BSV works

It's about economics and purpose - BTC happily kicked out all business with uasf and PoSM

 Grin
1434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 04, 2020, 07:37:00 AM
Reposted from the moderated thread. As it contains elements of powerful truth, it will likely be deleted from there. I bolded the most important parts.

...
Bitcoin BTC belongs to all its users. The source code of the Bitcoin Blockchain is open source and its evolutions are made by developers who strongly believe in the potential of Bitcoin to build a better world in the future.

Its nChain and BSV wants to distribute capitalist "Big Brother" to pay per second "for services that already exist", accessible to all for free for the most part. All this is based on a falsifiable system because whoever controls the hash and the power of the network can modify the blocks, the transactions, the data.

That's what you're really doing.

With your financial support and the funds you've already earned with all your bullshit. Maybe all of you should focus your energies on something really useful like cleaning the planet of its plastic. Building hospitals everywhere. Schools everywhere possible. Create arts centers, sports centers.... Dedicate your time to help the most needy by doing something yourself, like serving food at the soup kitchen 4 times a week, or helping your family and the family of strangers and thus putting aside your greed, selfishness and stinking sarcasm that stinks of the unhealthy theatre of operations. This can have the effect of bringing you down to earth and regaining a touch of humanity.  Helping the world is a fundamental that Satoshi believed and is certainly not that monkey wearing red socks.


What happens really if protocol gets locked down ? Do we still cheer and fanboy for tcp/ip dev teams ?

The goal is to undeploy core / abc whatever dev team in power

wake up baby
1435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO]The Empirical Proof of Bitcoin's Real Value Being Zero on: February 03, 2020, 10:02:55 PM
Your whole post is based on ignorance between market value and real value. Watch the video again.

Fortunately, Bitcoin has "real value", so market value doesn't matter.

Segwit killed that

Price is not value btw
1436  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: February 03, 2020, 06:46:29 PM
Verstehe ich den Medium-Artikel richtig: ein Service, mit dem man über eine zentrale Fiat-Technologie (Debitkarte/Überweisung) Bitcoin-Zahlungen im LN (über einen zentralen LN-Node) durchführen kann? Und diese dann wahrscheinlich über einen Payment-Prozessor sofort wieder in Fiat umgewandelt werden?

Sieht wirklich wie der Stein der Weisen der Dezentralität aus Grin (Ich bin ja, wie wohl vielen bekannt ist, ein Befürworter von "Bitcoin as a currency", aber das ist dann doch ... eine Spende an den Mittelsmann?)

(Lasse mich aber gern belehren, dass ich dies falsch verstehe und es doch die Megarevolution ist, die Lightning endlich to the masses and the moon schickt ...)

Yep. Da bleiben wir eher bei PayPal..  lol
1437  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2020, 06:41:07 PM
You mean like this?




Nah, he probably meant like the time I crashed my lambo, and lost the memory to my passphrase in the process:



Sad story really. Roll Eyes

Hodl - job done  Roll Eyes

Lambo SV



Lol, BSV tracks are just too big, no issues with any collision possible
1438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 03, 2020, 06:35:25 PM
Anybody else find it ironic that Bitcoin SV, the protocol "set in stone", is undergoing a hardfork, something that the real bitcoin has never done?

BSV will soon be split into two factions: Bitcoin SV and Bitcoin SV Classic.

Its laughable that all of the changes being introduced to the new BSV are considered part of "Satoshi's Vision." They're completely scrambling the code with a bunch of additions Satoshi could have never envisioned when he was around.

Quote
Additional Consensus Changes

Genesis Upgrade block height activation mechanism
UTXO age dependent rules
Formal Script Grammar
scriptSig can only contain OP_PUSHDATA operations
Sunset OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY and OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY for new transactions
Add a policy limit on max_script_memory_usage with a default of 100MB
Add a consensus limit on max_script_memory_usage
Remove the consensus limit on the number of signature operations per MB of block space
Remove the consensus limit on the maximum number of signature operations per transaction
Remove the consensus limit on the number of op codes per script
Remove the consensus limit on the maximum script element size
Remove the consensus limit on the maximum number of elements in a script
Remove the consensus limit on the maximum number of public keys per multisig
Increase the consensus limit on the maximum transaction size to 1GB.

Software Enhancements

Parallel Block Validation
Separate processing of non-standard transactions in low priority queue
Set script evaluation timeout policies for standard and non-standard transactions
Tx should be included in inv messages in the order in which they are validated
Enhance tests for Parallel Block Validation.
Common Genesis activation code and command line option.
Enable validation of non-standard txns (on MainNet) when Genesis is enabled.
Set mempool default = 1Gb.
Remove block size from user agent string.
Change default tx fees (default txfee = 0.5 sat/byte, default minrelaytxfee = 0.25 sat/byte)
Update SPV bloom filters re attack mitigation.
Improve performance of prevector deserialization.
Change logging messages to be more precise.
Fix: Validating non-standard transactions can lock up a node for more than a minute.
Fix: Tx validation uses original reject message and ban score is used
Fix block send queue overflow
Fix undefined behaviour in bsv::deserialize
Fix bitcoin-cli help getblock
Fix build: Configure should fail when it can’t detect boost
Set the execute bit on all the new Genesis functional tests.
Fix MedianTimePast
Fix: Nonfinal transactions with no inputs is rejected with incorrect reason
Fix memory leak in asn1_integer
Fix boost::optional warnings
Fix: hexhdr.py does not get included in packaged source
Fix: Fundrawtransaction RPC changePosition parameter causing out of bounds access
Add basic --enable-tcmalloc option to the build
Fix: CTxnDoubleSpendDetector deletion past end of vector
fix lshift and rshift on data larger than 2GB
Update to the RDP in preparation for Genesis
set max duration for async validation tasks

What a joke.

Well I mean if you're still an SV believer, it means you'll believe anything, so why not?

Troll harder. You must really hate BitCoin. Only love hodled bags?

Never seen such a retarded hater like nutiboy
1439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO]The Empirical Proof of Bitcoin's Real Value Being Zero on: February 03, 2020, 03:38:28 PM
I am pointing out the human stupidity of purchasing this record for thousands of dollars although it pays zero monetary or non-monetary value to its holders. On their own, all financial instruments are worthless paper or digital records. That's why their issuers must provide some payment to their holders, and it is this payment what gives them value. Bitcoin issuers pay nothing, which renders Bitcoin worthless. Giving up valuable possessions just to be the holder of worthless digital record, is a very good example of how stupid can the humans be.

Bitcoin IS a valuable possession.

Bitcoin has value just like gold has value.  It is more like a commodity than a "financial instrument".  There are no "issuers" of Bitcoin, just like there are no "issuers" of gold.

Control over Bitcoins offers value on its own, so there is no need for "some payment to holders".





It took gold / XAU some 100 / 1000 years to come up / be there - and stil has quite high volatility


we have Bitcoin not close to any stable value after 5 years and lots of forks in the zero sum game

(Segwit is 2 years old ... forget that)

Nothing can be said yet
1440  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many Bitcoin Forks Are There? You will be surprised!!! on: February 03, 2020, 02:55:36 PM
Good to track the 'forks' here

https://sv.coin.dance/
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