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1721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 12, 2019, 08:31:30 AM
Faketoshi's Vision: "Set in stone, until we change it, again."

The White Paper doesn't Change - it's set in Stone as well.

Digg out Satoshi's comments - he told us - it is set in Stone already

If some ppl dont understand why and how that could work / have other ideas:  copy the code, alter it and build ur own coin

Wait, call it SegWitCoin ?
1722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2019, 07:08:42 AM

Nothing to see here, folks.  Move along... move along.

Are you folks seriously still under the delusion that bitcoin is a natural monopoly ?  Because if you are then I'd consider investing in yellow socks since they're about as likely to establish one.

What do you think's has been happening over the last 10 years ? The so called "altcoin" market is about as utterly hammered into profit-take oblivion as any modern asset's ever seen and bitcoin's still only 16% away from having a minority market share. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Alts are the lungs of BTC and they're about to initiate a sharp intake of breath after an epic exhale Wink




Nice hypothesis. Is it based on one market cycle?

Not really. It's based on a theory of how hard/more persistent assets and soft/more utilitarian monetary assets are structured. Profit-takes leak capital into layers lower down the pyramid following successive market cycles of the upper layers. The lower layers become less volatile but more persistent and therefore serve as a market reserve while most of the profit from growth is made in the upper layers.

You can see this occurring with bitcoin on any long term chart including the log chart of price and the market dominance chart.

See, for example this article from a couple of years back:




Nice Picture.

The black bottom Needs to be stable af and set in Stone ?

- yes, or it all falls over
1723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 12, 2019, 06:34:18 AM
It gets bigger and better
Almost 4 million (780mb, 8 Bitcoin in fees)
https://stn.satoshi.io/block-height/4775


Good - more fees than coinbase reward after next halving.

Sustainable for eternity ?

 Wink
1724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2019, 06:31:59 AM
Alibaba shoppers earn 5% back in Bitcoin while shopping online


Source: https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1194011049986408448

Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba has partnered with Bitcoin (BTC) rewards shopping app Lolli, enabling its shoppers to earn 5% back in Bitcoin. Alibaba customers can now get Satoshis (sats), the smallest unit of Bitcoin currency, worth 0.00000001 BTC, when shopping “thousands of items online,” Lolli says.
Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/alibaba-partners-with-lolli-to-allow-us-shoppers-earn-free-bitcoin

Funny - but BTC isn't good for Shopping -

wait
1725  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Trading mit Fidor Konto und Bitcoin.de wird teurer on: November 12, 2019, 06:29:54 AM
Dragi sei Dank - Banken können mit 0 Zins nix mehr verdienen  - da steigen die Gebühren

Und dadurch sinken die Kundenzahlen.

Nuja, bei manchen Kunden sind die Banken ganz froh, wenn sie weg gehen ...

Aber das schlimme daran ist ja...wenn sie fast Pleite sind oder Superhoch verschuldet zahlst Du / Wir es ja. Also der Deutsche Bürger. Schau doch mal inne Vergangenheit wie viele Milliarden an Geldern dort draufgegangen sind. Da kannst locker Binance mit kaufen.  Grin

Das kommt bei den 2-3 ganz Grossen so hin - die kleinen kriegen in der Sippenhaft den Arsch mit voll - das kanns auch nicht sein
1726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 11, 2019, 05:20:42 PM

Anyone who says BSV isn’t “good tech,” is criticizing BTC from 2009 until late 2017. 
BSV simply didn’t add the technical bloat of Core. Today, BTC has exponential more lines of code, but  less than .01% of BSV’s throughput. THAT is “bad tech.”
The secret history of BitCoin.


RBF crap is not part of BitCoin SV afaik

But good plot.
1727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 11, 2019, 08:55:34 AM
I just had a transaction confirmed for $0.05 in 6 minutes. There is no reason to use bitcoin imitators, now, or ever.

#scaling
#winning
#thanksSegWit
#thanksLightning

SegShit LN BSCore Coin falls into this dilemma

https://cointelegraph.com/news/why-blockchain-startups-fail

It works for the moment, for some nerds in a niche
1728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 11, 2019, 05:58:35 AM
ETH and all other smart contract platforms getting trouble?


https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3257191B1/en
1729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 10, 2019, 03:49:49 PM
Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?

Actually, the bigger number doesn't qualify a crypto to be better but the user base level, miners and community support level which no other crypto surpass bitcoin in terms of the mention features are what can be use to judge how better a coin is not the act of price manipulation which are used by centralized coin team Besides, no other crypto can survive the government pressure as bitcoin did.


People like the CSW team won't admit to the truth until the coin vaporize from the market which will definitely happen sooner or later.

Any coin, any global project can vaporize cause of many reasons.
Like

- bad governance
- no scaling , just tech dept
- not compliant
- not on purpose / rather altered to go darker / nichy use
- too much illegal use / no real use ( like store of value without medium of exchange/ interoperability)
- support only by haters, anonymous and anarchos


I do not see BSV to be vaporized or u see other reasons why?


You left out some of the biggest ones:

- being created with the intention of scamming others
- not having any real-world use case scenarios
- being a copycat/clone of a pre-existing idea
- being led by frauds who perpetuate a culture of dishonesty around their coin

Sure, the major change / uasf / segwit fork created a new coin
On bitcoin.org all the business who wanted the 2x have been denounced and kicked out of the new Segshit coin
Besides Segshit BScore kept the name of Bitcoin , copied it, and scammed all others who bought in earlier - better way d ve been to call it Segshit Airdrop ( there was some announcement here...)
Honest mining is defined in the white paper. Segshit has no, that is fraud

1730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 10, 2019, 09:26:30 AM
Edit: Even better - from your quoted article:

BSV is also up 120% in the past six months—compared to 52% for Bitcoin (BTC).
bigger number mean better coin?

Actually, the bigger number doesn't qualify a crypto to be better but the user base level, miners and community support level which no other crypto surpass bitcoin in terms of the mention features are what can be use to judge how better a coin is not the act of price manipulation which are used by centralized coin team Besides, no other crypto can survive the government pressure as bitcoin did.


People like the CSW team won't admit to the truth until the coin vaporize from the market which will definitely happen sooner or later.

Any coin, any global project can vaporize cause of many reasons.
Like

- bad governance
- no scaling , just tech dept
- not compliant
- not on purpose / rather altered to go darker / nichy use
- too much illegal use / no real use ( like store of value without medium of exchange/ interoperability)
- support only by haters, anonymous and anarchos


I do not see BSV to be vaporized or u see other reasons why?
1731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2019, 07:38:29 AM

I think I see your problem. There in step four...

Math-inating is haaaaard. For some. Evidently.

Guess this is Toddlers way after fork to more than 21mio?

 Grin
1732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 09, 2019, 07:32:12 AM
In case someone missed it, Malta AIBC Summit Nov 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMB1K4w-wRk&feature=youtu.be

First time i heard him say segshit

Yes, good the message comes out, that Segshit was the biggest fork and crap that came from BScore, but all the crippling and darkening shit does also more harm than good.

Selling this fucked up version as 'Bitcoin' is the scam, but scammers are used to shout louder and try to smear the protectors of the original, esp in cost free post environments like our entire internet still is.

Metanet gonna fix that.

More cool stuff. A wordpress plugin for BitCoin paywall

https://twitter.com/BTC_de_Blog/status/1193171661387960330
1733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2019, 10:27:32 AM
.. snip

.., it was copied from original ...


nope

It was SAFED to STAY ORIGINAL

 Shocked
1734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2019, 08:21:42 PM
BTW, New World record on BitCoin testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)  
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185
That is not Bitcoin.


Sure, the Satoshi CW Datacenter BitCoin BSV showing capacity for the globe as designed to scam people into thinking dumb things.

Do you have to be such a cheesy lying shill?
What else do you do for money?

Satoshi told it will go datacenters.

Easy man, it's the truth
1735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2019, 07:40:59 PM
BTW, New World record on BitCoin testnet 2,734,797 transactions in a single block (528 MB)  
 https://stn.whatsonchain.com/block-height/4185
That is not Bitcoin.


Sure, the Satoshi Datacenter BitCoin showing capacity for the globe as designed
1736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: November 07, 2019, 06:46:32 AM
@hv_

Burning curiosity: why tack on all the extra stuff onto the chain?

Is it supposed to be a use case or a monetary transfer protocol?
Before you ask about any false dichotomy, consider why merging the two would be better than having just two independent systems.

Sure, why should you be able to 'post' anything for free ? Isn't that one of the Major flaws of the Internet we know? (> Spam, fake , trolling ,...)

If you can attach value ( yes - also micro-values) for sending and receiving Content - we agree this Content gets a new Quality and by pay for publishing  it / storing it (not fully on-chain - depends ...)
and using it (paywall, tipping = liking) all the Internet activites will have real monetary value - this is how e-comerce will be properly enabled and distributed globally and ppl can earn money for e-work and trade.

All via the same ledger - minimzed any frictions to trade / interact P2P

So e-money   / e-cash has real use

So Bitcoin was designed to do that - compliant with any law on the planet / Transparency of BitCoin is a Feature that ENABLES trust. Annonymous shit never did


Just new to read about here: https://coingeek.com/the-origins-of-bitcoin-satoshis-vision/
1737  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Risks with using trading Signals on: November 06, 2019, 02:43:12 PM
No signal or anything else can predict the future

The future is at risk at any time for anyone
1738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2019, 01:55:28 PM


Friendly old-warning. >99.9% altcoins and tokens are scams: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/1141634217945849857. Bitcoin prevails.

Cannot aggree more - everyone should finally know that such ICOs are securities.

Bitcoin came for 0 , had no ticker - this is the only compliant way to start new experiments
1739  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Trading mit Fidor Konto und Bitcoin.de wird teurer on: November 06, 2019, 01:52:23 PM
Dragi sei Dank - Banken können mit 0 Zins nix mehr verdienen  - da steigen die Gebühren

Und dadurch sinken die Kundenzahlen.

Nuja, bei manchen Kunden sind die Banken ganz froh, wenn sie weg gehen ...
1740  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Trading mit Fidor Konto und Bitcoin.de wird teurer on: November 06, 2019, 12:15:44 PM
Dragi sei Dank - Banken können mit 0 Zins nix mehr verdienen  - da steigen die Gebühren
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