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1521  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: January 15, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
Ein einfach zu manipulierender Markt (bezüglich des einzusetzenden Kapitals für Preisbewegungen) und über die Futures sogar mit Auswirkungen auf "richtiges Geld"
Da kann ich nur mein ewiges Mantra wiederholen:
Marktmanipulation durch den bloßen Einsatz von Kapital ist mathematisch unmöglich.

Bezüglich der "Marktmanipulation" verlinke ich immer gerne auf diese Wikipedialiste
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_manipulation

Das findet auf Kryptomärkten quasi alles statt.  

Ohne 'Regulation' ist das auch nicht anders zu erwarten ...

Das heißt also, wenn reguliert ist, pumpt nichts mehr  Huh  Grin

Bitcoin wird nie reguliert sein... klar können paar Gesetzeshüter tolle Gesetze verfassen... ob ich mich daran halte steht auf einem anderen Blatt.
Das zweite Problem ist, Bitcoin ist eine globale Währung, dass was hier gilt muss anderswo nicht gelten und kein Land kann Eigentum am bitcoin deklarieren.

Soll ja Menschen geben die in voreiligem Gehorsam selbst den letzten Po auslecken... ich nicht

Man kann nicht alles haben.

Entweder Bitcoin ordnet sich ein - in die regulierte Finanzwelt und wird global  ( und: macht diese super Transparent ... dat will ich z.B.)

oder

tschüssi



Veränderungen können nur einvernehmlich geschehen - insb global
1522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why We Think Craig Wright is Satoshi and Why That Matters on: January 15, 2020, 02:47:03 PM
there is no vision......what vision?

so satoshi left and come back to fork bitcoin? LOL

unless craig sign satoshi's wallets he is not satoshi, if he is not satoshi, how come it is called "satoshi's vision"

what is bitcoin now? it is the decentralized community of miners, coders, shitcoiners, scammers, schemers, gamblers, investards...i can go on and on.. a "VISION" of one man is meaningless now. so cut the crap with the "VISION" shit LOL

This is his way of promoting the currency he have, Craig Wright might look stupid upon doing these things but in fact, he is getting a huge support by people who could see the light within the cryptocurrency Craig implemented. Though, I don't support his claims, I threat all cryptocurrency as having potential to be profitable in the future, but the way he is promoting is making me dislike his forked cryptocurrency even though I see it performing very well in the market.

Lesson, focus on what you have, because we will not grow making others fall.

light?? what light? what kind of light? the truth the way and the light kind of shit? LOL

yes we make others fall so we could rise. BTC vs fiat printing inflation, world war 1, world war 2, free market economy...even your own feet you can't raise the other foot without pushing the other down.

BTC has already fallen / lost to be the leader as it should be, cause it could do all that what the other shitcoins try to do, like smart contracts, P2P cash with low fees - all that borderless compliant with a single Blockchain system called Satoshi BitCoin.

BitCoin didn't start having a ticker, so it can change tickers as ppl attach some to it at their own will, but BitCoin doesn't change protocol and Satoshi's idea.

If protocol changes away from BitCoin it is no longer BitCoin ( don't care about tickers, right?)

If ppl sell shitcoin under name of Satoshi's BitCoin, they fraud. CSW calls that out quite noisy, so no wonder lots of trolling comes over him and try to call him fraud (this practice is well known btw)


Not

All

Getting

THIS

Bitcoin may or may not be a leader, but it is the first decentralized programmable money, it can rise and it can fall but it stays because people used it, are using it and will use it. i like shitcoins but bitcoin stays  Wink

what matters is now, so far so good.

fuck the start, fuck satoshi, fuck your ticker and fuck your fork.

give craig wright a blowjob.



I hear you and your good faith

Stay out of BitCoin

Good for all
1523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: January 15, 2020, 02:24:19 PM
In this last filling by Satoshi, he gave 1600 address that he claims he owns and that hold bitcoin he mined, the total amount is approx a bit over 1,000,000 BTC

So if Craig is lying about that, why the real owners of those 1600 address don't move their coins?
So is Craig telling the truth? he owns the satoshi address? he is satoshi?

There's no way Craig is Satoshi. If he was really Satoshi he wouldn't have felt the need to tell dozens or even hundreds of lies over the year. He wouldn't have perjured himself in court, or made idiotic statements defaming others (such as theymos and sirius, two of the original members of this forum), which caused the judge to enter into a default judgment for the plaintiff.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

Craig is a con man. People buying SV are buying into a con. It will end poorly for them.

Yea - no way ...

cause why?

Cause triggered nutti wil go and cry ?

BTW: It does not matter so much - cause BitCoin (BSV) does not care
1524  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: January 15, 2020, 12:37:28 PM
Ein einfach zu manipulierender Markt (bezüglich des einzusetzenden Kapitals für Preisbewegungen) und über die Futures sogar mit Auswirkungen auf "richtiges Geld"
Da kann ich nur mein ewiges Mantra wiederholen:
Marktmanipulation durch den bloßen Einsatz von Kapital ist mathematisch unmöglich.

Bezüglich der "Marktmanipulation" verlinke ich immer gerne auf diese Wikipedialiste
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_manipulation

Das findet auf Kryptomärkten quasi alles statt. 

Ohne 'Regulation' ist das auch nicht anders zu erwarten ...
1525  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: January 15, 2020, 12:35:56 PM
Ich finde es immer wieder interessant, wie tief sich Hochstapler in ihre Lügengebäude vergraben.
Das erinnert mich irgendwie so ein bisschen an den Daum damals.

Im verlinkten Dokument teilt er ja lediglich dem Gericht mit, dass er den key slice erhalten hat, ohne diesen selbst aber natürlich einzureichen.
Es ist wohl zu erwarten, dass sich in den kommenden Tagen "bedauerlicherweise" herausstellt, dass der key slice fehlerhaft ist, und daher ohne CSWs Verschulden die Coins hiermit nicht erreichbar sind.
Zufällig wird sich faketoshi dann erinnern, dass es ja noch einen weiteren Notfall-key-slice gab, der jedoch, "traurig, traurig" selbstverständlich erst ein Jahr später übermittelt wird. Roll Eyes

Naja, so oder ähnlich wird sich diese Räuberpistole hinziehen, sofern dem Richter nicht einfach endgültig die Geduld ausgeht.


Ich verwende hier ausnahmsweise mal die Sprache eines Trumpists: "Lock him up!"

Du meinst doch nicht etwa diesen Daum oder?  Grin

Mann kann das nicht Vergleichen - aber der Rest wäre ja sich (zu?)anstrengend - PoW

Nichts liegt so auf der Strasse herum, ebenso nicht der Beweis, wer Satoshi ist oder was der Originale BitCoin ist - in vor allem - warum das überhaupt wichtig ist.

Investigativer Journalismus ist auch fast völlig ausgestorben - bleibt noch: PoSM  - na denn prost

1526  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: January 14, 2020, 10:34:26 PM
Mal ehrlich, wer CW für voll nimmt dem ist nicht mehr zu helfen.

Nuja, dat kann aber auch schief gehn

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/eosc5v/craig_delivered_the_tulip_trust_key_slice/
1527  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: January 14, 2020, 10:03:42 PM
This is how the BSV scammers are pretending that their chain is used.

ONE SINGLE adress has received 4.3 million Txs which ALL seem of the exact same amount: 0.00000772 BSV
https://twitter.com/melikmanukyan/status/1217003661919801345

On the blockchain explorer: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/1JGyfFYEweyKKKyDMgkZnPijEnU3EvVN7o



Start wining

Start spelling.

Tutut yaself
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: January 14, 2020, 09:58:58 PM
I think BSVBTC could work out a nice short trade on a shorter time-frame. After a 100% gain in a day, I don't see much more upside, only Craig & co dumping bags:



Could be wrong, but worth the risk reward in my opinion. Completely overbought, though conflicting indicators as Bitfinex shows heavy selling pressure from a ridiculous wick to 0.24 btc, whereas Bittrex and others shows strong buying pressure (as there wasn't much of a sell off).

Entry: break of Agressive 13 sequential count.
Stop: high of the 9 candle
Profit: base of the rally

Oooo, the man who saw the upside now sees the ... wait?
1529  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: January 14, 2020, 08:21:07 PM
Wow Bitcoin SV fast verdoppelt sowas gab es ja schon lange nicht mehr

Es haben viele Altcoins auch ordentlich zugelegt, gab es auch schon lange nicht mehr  Cheesy

Aber BSV ist echt ein Wahnsinn, fast verdoppelt in 24h

Was so das Original BitCoin Protokoll noch so drauf hat... ich bin ein echter Fan vom Rheinheitsgebot

Cheers
1530  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: January 14, 2020, 08:19:19 PM
This is how the BSV scammers are pretending that their chain is used.

ONE SINGLE adress has received 4.3 million Txs which ALL seem of the exact same amount: 0.00000772 BSV
https://twitter.com/melikmanukyan/status/1217003661919801345

On the blockchain explorer: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/1JGyfFYEweyKKKyDMgkZnPijEnU3EvVN7o



Start wining
1531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What ever happened to Hal Finney's bitcoin? on: January 14, 2020, 07:18:40 PM
I don't get why anyone thinks it's their business.  It's not your bitcoin, so surely the most reasonable argument to make is that it's of no concern to you where it ended up. 

This is true. Not our business
1532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: January 14, 2020, 02:22:23 PM
This guy explains btc trolling

https://mobile.twitter.com/siosism/status/1216909908584460288
1533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: January 14, 2020, 09:18:33 AM
Holey moley.

But pls do not get blind by speculation

We ve learned from segwit ponzi and eth oligarchy that is a sad end for BitCoin s functionality

Bagholding is for the dumbest. Whales will always rape little joes. No different for any financial system


Only thing that helps little joe is transparency and simple stable rules / protocols
1534  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: January 14, 2020, 09:13:19 AM
Wasn jetzt los?

Das habe ich auch gedacht  Cheesy

Da sind wohl die Siebenschläfer wach geworden.

Watt? Schon Ende mit Winterpennen?
1535  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-01-03] Alleged $8B BTC Tulip Trust Expires With Tales of Bonded Couriers on: January 14, 2020, 09:07:26 AM
Seems there is a bit of interest to let good old BitCoin protocol alive and running
so i an says Bitcoin Sv is just forking from real bitcoin, like ethereum classic from Eth  Grin
of course Craig is just "forking" from sathosi not the real sathosi

There is nothing exciting in news and to report when the bitcoin news media begins talking about Craig Wright again hehehe. Everyone already knows that he is a liar.

For bitcoin comunity, and real bitcoin user we know Craig Wright is totally liar, but how about new member of bitcoin comunity? new investor?
i think media must subjective, the must use "bitcoin SV " instead of Bitcoin, this faketoshi making new bitcoin member get scamed by his SV coin

I d say very good analysts and informed ppl see it that from the opposite.

There is no proper media yet
1536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: January 13, 2020, 10:02:29 PM
You guys should list compliant friendly BSV
1537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WeChat and Crypto on: January 13, 2020, 10:01:08 PM
Putting Cryptocurrency wallets into mobile phones or social media applications will be a big breakthrough. I think they're waiting for the time they're not rushing for this move. They only made small trials. Now larger firms are stronger than the states.

You might to have lowest fees for and be regulation friendly

Original BitCoin does that compliant
1538  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What ever happened to Hal Finney's bitcoin? on: January 13, 2020, 09:59:14 PM
Hal Finney must have accumulated a ton of bitcoin.
What ever happened to them?
After his death, have they been sold?



They sold a lot of it to pay for his medical treatment in the years before his death, plus teh costs of cryonicly freezing him:

https://www.wired.com/2014/08/hal-finney/

Quote
Finney never quite got rich from his early bitcoin involvement, according to Fran. Much of their savings went toward his health care as his condition deteriorated. They traded the majority of his bitcoins for dollars long before the currency's spike in value late last year.

After my story on Finney's life and work, bitcoiners donated 25 bitcoins to Finney and his family, a sum that's worth close to $12,500 today. Initially, Fran Finney tells me, the family intended to spend that money to buy Finney a new computer interface that would use an electromyographic (EMG) switch to read electric signals from surface muscle, allowing him to better control his voice and writing software. But the interface was incompatible with the few muscles Finney still controlled, leaving him locked in a body that increasingly prevented him from communicating at all.

So instead, the bitcoin donations will now go toward Finney's cryonic procedures, along with a life insurance policy the Finneys have maintained for years to prepare for Alcor's substantial fee. "Once we realized that Hal wasn’t going to be able to use the EMG switch, this was our next choice," says Fran. "The bitcoins will cover a large fraction of the cost."

He died in 2014, so they sold back then (way before bitcoin started to surge in price). They got about $12,000 for the lot.

Yep. Heard he had to pay lots for medication.
Guess he sold all
1539  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why has not any government stopped Bitcoin? on: January 13, 2020, 09:45:40 PM
Single gov tried.

Only if US China and EU act together...

See what happened to similar projects like Liberty Reserve...

> stay clean or a lot will pay for
1540  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitmain co-founder in legal war against shareholders of the company on: January 13, 2020, 09:42:29 PM
Some might speculate they lost the hash war . ABC tricked them into a split cause fear of strong governance for stable compliant  BitCoin BSV was against their wishes
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