Willful ignorance is one hell of a drug. Meanwhile, the rest of the world knows that those forged documents were not forged by Craig but instead of the rogue ex-employees who wanted to liquidate his company. You honestly believe a document that was found from the computer of a rogue ex-employee and which seemingly appears to be forged by Craig actually proves that Craig forged it? You have to be living in a fantasy land where wishful thinking has replaced common sense or alternatively, you're a simpleton who's mind freezes when it has to deal with recursion, so like a true NPCs that you are, you fall back to "aussie man bad" if you can't comprehend the recursion. Many tried to tell the truth, but most of those posts just getting deleted all the time. I came to the conclusion that ppl who don't do own research does deserve to stay uninformed And many just do not want to know the truth, cause their bags govern their will
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What's your problem with centralization anyway? Don't you know that centralization into data-centers is actually good for BitCoin? Everyone keeps bashing centralization without even knowing what it means and what are its implications. This is exactly the thing that bothers me about these wannabe technical experts who have never taken even the basic course of programming. Boo-hoo go whine to ISPs that they are so centralized. You see your fallacy already? Centralization is part of professionalization, which in turn contributes to lower transaction fees and more use cases.
so ultimately there is one validator - ie yours/CSWs/(((thems)))/the lizards/etc? who will have the computing power to validate your central all powerful node? be nice if someone, whos not a state actor, could validate the blockchain. or we just have to buy a high end datacenter to trust you guys? These datacenters already exist called miners and pools, farms. Highly connected, highly efficient creating the blockchain. They are the producers with long term investments, running all the server farms and spending money on energy and infrastructure, already such big business and regulated. 'Decentralized' enough If big shit happens they're all in charge.
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BSV is quite spectacular in a sense that it's THE ONLY ONE that has no block size limit at all and works perfectly well. "simply another big block fork" does not apply here, because even BCH has block size limit, they all do, except for the BSV. Quite an achievement for a mere scam, don't you think?
Not really; its the adjustment of a single parameter. Based on pure technical decisions alone I would bet on BSV any time.
You're welcome to your opinion. If there wasn't for BSV we would not have a single public block chain remaining that complies to the directives of the original whitepaper. Both BCH and BTC have deviated from the original design so much that they are no longer recognizable as BitCoin.
You're now making this a religious argument. So, you switched to Puritanism because you thought the excesses of the Catholic Church made it drift away from the teachings of Jesus. That's great. However, Bitcoin isn't a religion -- its a technology, and its free to evolve, even if it does it in such a way that renders the utility of your coin obsolete. Your scam argument does not hold either, because I know for fact that Craig Wright and he alone is Satoshi.
You know it "for a fact," do you? Prove it. You may believe otherwise but history is full of examples where people have been fooled by the (social) media.
Its also full of examples where people have been fooled by con artists, fake prophets, gurus, cult of personalities, and shyster salesmen. By the way, don't post twice in a row or you second post is likely to be deleted by a moderator. The next time you have a new thought, and you were the last one to post in a thread, simply edit your last post to include your new thoughts. I'm pointing this out to you now so you don't claim you are being conspired against later. ... yeah, no way to serve the requests. Nobody owes to deliver any proof Grow up and do own research
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I've been interested in Bitcoin since 2011 and working as a software architect for 15 years, I've got master's degree in software engineering and as a professional in my field I can confirm that BitCoin as defined in the original wrightpaper is simply a brilliantly designed economic system. Today, unlimited block size is only available on the original BitCoin (BSV), which further validates the point that on-chain scaling is possible not only in theory but also in practice. While BTC has been talking the talk of LN since ages, BSV has been walking the walk and actually delivering on the promise of the whitepaper. Calling something as disruptive and hard-working a scam only proves the wishful thinking of creator of this thread.
Absolutely correct. Lets wait a bit until mods will remove the truth. removals of my posts are countless... But we cannot help much more, finding out the truth was always about doing own research and pow
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Still all in into dark 'social media is ur judge' and 'code is law' ?
go more and be lost
go public and see the light
(Satoshi has not the time to convince you ...)
Instead of just repeating the stuff Craig convinced you guys to... how about adressing the actual questions? All I always hear is "Craig has no time", "You don't believe because he's uncomfortable and doesn't fit your imagination", "A signed message isn't proof" etc... it gets boring. Nobody owes you whatever, Satoshi has delivered I only point out to look up, what he really was about - and it was real P2P e cash, and he wanted it IP to IP, cause peers need to still trust each other to exchange/ trade. Datacenters Honest mining Nothing with anonymous and anarchos open up Silk Road and crime ( so he might left and tried to fix the shit...) Find out yourself if your interest is deep and honest enough and check who wants to call out ppl for scam / crime in order to hide behind their own shit CSW is just doing such quite open, others more silent- states, govs, FBIs are really concerned what was done in crypto over the last years. Is there any chance that this will just go longer down that same path? Bitcoin needs to be just a simple clean easy to assess locked down protocol like smtp or ftp is. This might stay - just as Satoshi wanted- run by honest datacenters, but open for all to do, that is decentralized enough
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Bitcoin is controversial technology , good to be discussed constructive and then it will grow better for all Destructive minded BTC ponzi shills can only think of: buy hodl sell to greater fool Look at them loosing all (proof: so much triggered and hate posts)
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Still all in into dark 'social media is ur judge' and 'code is law' ? go more and be lost go public and see the light (Satoshi has not the time to convince you ...)
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The funny thing is - they just don't want to know, not want to care , not want to build,..
Rather delete all posts that show the truth - creating a real use case for metanet and getting rid of anonymous spam trolling
Funny thing is. This thread is not self moderated and doesn't delete posts. BSV thread is self moderated and silences critics. Who is deleting the truth ? Incorrect - lot's of my post ve been deleted - but hu - who cares. https://twitter.com/kurtwuckertjr/status/1225618226639495168(see who might run all that) Finding out the truth is OWN PoW anyway
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This happens if Satoshi doesn't fit to expectations They don't want to believe Craig is Satoshi because Craig is not an anarchist and actually likes the banks and the rule of law. Bias so blindingly bright here I've got to wear shades If you want to see people rather living in a lie than admitting the reality, you'd better read this thread. The funny thing is - they just don't want to know, not want to care , not want to build,.. Rather delete all posts that show the truth - creating a real use case for metanet and getting rid of anonymous spam trolling
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This happens if Satoshi doesn't fit to expectations
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There's no long term plan here, at this point even if he somehow manages to prove that he owns Satoshi's private and gpg keys, i don't see how anyone would want to support a blockchain network with an "owner". BSvers can't be that dumb, or can they He likes what Satoshi did He doesn't like what blockCore did to Satoshi 's BitCoin He might be Satoshi and keeps the trolls running So far that's cool The issue is that BSv idiots fail to see that no one wants a "decentralized" network with an "owner". The issue is that anti-BSV idiots fail to see -- notwithstanding CSW's statement quoted above -- that BSV no more has an "owner" than does BTC. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! He's only the chief scientist of the protocol and self proclaimed creator, a patent troll who copyrighted the whitepaper and trying to build a patent forest around the tech, other than that BSv is as decentralized as bitcoin. Keep trying to preach new n00bs in. Even in his best case scenario miners will just go behind tor, then who he's going to sue? But go ahead go fight the internet that always turns out well Correct. BSV is just as decentralized as BTC. Craig's escapades notwithstanding. As they are irrelevant from the standpoint of the protocol and the chain. Shut the fuck up. You can't be this stupid. At this point you have just become another meme in the long list of idiots who spent their days on this thread trying to bash BTC because they had mental problems or some social hysteria disorder. Stop embarrassing yourself with your altcoin non-sense. Any idiot who thinks CSW is even potentially satoshi is a moron of the highest order. Like world class idiot. So just shut the fuck up and go away. No one likes you. I just took you off ignore long enough to rip you another asshole, you asshole. Wow, strong shit and triggered? Grow up and learn to chill
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Bitcoin is a server in Satoshi's basement?
No, but BSV is. In Calvin's basement though. Craig is the admin. They also date each other. Nonsense. U want to dream your own tour Play the LN scam or whatever
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There's no long term plan here, at this point even if he somehow manages to prove that he owns Satoshi's private and gpg keys, i don't see how anyone would want to support a blockchain network with an "owner". BSvers can't be that dumb, or can they He likes what Satoshi did He doesn't like what blockCore did to Satoshi 's BitCoin He might be Satoshi and keeps the trolls running So far that's cool The issue is that BSv idiots fail to see that no one wants a "decentralized" network with an "owner". The tech is out and people saw the benefit and value in the decentralized network. That's like if coca cola was still trying to force people to drink it to treat drug dependence, or viagra still insisted it was used to treat heart problems, or listerine to treat gonorrhea. No one cares what the original intent was, but i guess those that don't remember history are doomed... Bitcoin is a protocol. It just gets used if it works fine. Nothing to sell here, like Segwit or LN.
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There's no long term plan here, at this point even if he somehow manages to prove that he owns Satoshi's private and gpg keys, i don't see how anyone would want to support a blockchain network with an "owner". BSvers can't be that dumb, or can they He likes what Satoshi did He doesn't like what blockCore did to Satoshi 's BitCoin He might be Satoshi and keeps the trolls running So far that's cool
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Craig owns the database. Remember, it has illegal data in it, like child porn or something. Owner goes to jail? I mean, if you own the database, you own the content right? Can't own something that you don't own ... would be a circular argument.
Nope, wrong again He seems to own the DB SCHEMA, or the design/ protocol definition Not the content See the difference?
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What else would you need to extrapolate into 'future' ?
I understand, I don't like to speculate either since no one can guess the future. What I do is judge the past and draw conclusions based on facts, such as hashrate, price, number of transactions, etc. The facts tell me that BSV is a piece of shit, until that changes it will continue to be a scam. Good start I go little deeper and ask why has btc higher figures / external metrics and have concluded those are manly driven by scams
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WE think - no, we KNOW (cause make functional diffs, read the specs) BSV is the correct Bitcoin - and it works ( we accept btc doesn't work, but never will - also cause it's no longer comlpiant at all)
Strong statements, which is logical since they come from a very smart guy, I'm not smart enough to understand why Bitcoin is worse than BSV or any other shitcoin.... so could you please tell me when Bitcoin is going to die? When will BSV surpass it in adoption and use? An approximation, more or less... The most important thing is that it remains free (I m aware I'm surely not the smartest in the space - so do own research is your friend) Nobody can predict future - so better not get into speculation / position talk at all ( this is one of the major cancer in crypto space IMHO) But just looking at simple economics only with big blocks security generating miners will live / invest in the long run Sustainability and value comes with multi onchain use cases Compliance is with plain original protocol What else would you need to extrapolate into 'future' ?
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HEX HOSP ? was auch immer
Bitcoin 's ureigenste Idee zieht leider immer wieder Scammer / Tritbrettfahrer an
Der Regulator / Industrie schaut nich mehr lange zu
Ohjemine, soll ich nun lieber verkaufen? Und ich vollidiot HODL immer noch... oh nein oh nein, danke für Deinen Tip. mal ganz im Ernst der von Dir genannte Regulator kann mich mal Kreuzweise... Wir zahlen schon nahezu die Hälfte an irgendwelchen Abgaben, denn Rest von dem was verbleibt holen Sie sich über die UST, Ölsteuer, tabaksteuer, Alk Steuer usw noch rein, so dass man effektiv 1/3 des erwirtschafteten für sich hat... und die dumme nation macht dabei mit? Sollen Sie doch Bitcoin verbieten... Interessiert mich genau null, die regulatoren sind für mich größere Verbrecher als jede hinterhof Bitcoin-Börsen-Bude mit anonymen Betreibern aus Takshikistan... Ich weiss - das is aber echt doof. Aber warum is denn das so? Du zahlst sicher nur, weil die grossen Säcke sich's so gebaut haben, dass sie zuwenig zahlen. Geld is ja da - oder? Wenn wir also schönes transparantes Bitcoin für alle REGULIERT gangbar machen könnten, dann wäre es aus mit dem 'Kohle-Versteck-Spiel' und die Steuer wird gerechter, transparenter evtl automatisierter bezahlt. Fast so wie in der Schweiz, wo es kaum SteuerUrwaldSchlupflöcher gibt - und sie Steuern dadurch viel niedriger sind - für ALLE Mit Bitcoin / transparent / compliant / reguliert / staatsfreundlich / industrie-standard geht genau das. Deine Steuerlast sinkt - und du kannst genau nachvefolgen, was der Staat mit dem Geld macht. Was du machst ist Peanuts und geht in der masse unter - wer will das schon wissen ... Nurmal so zum nachdenken >> anonym ist nix - das hilftnur den reichen Säcken ( am meisten den richtig kriminellen)
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Set in stone
>BCH forks from BTC >BSV forks from BCH BSV: Set in stone! >undergoes hardfork Set in stone, again! >undergoes another hardfork Set in stone, for reals this time!! What a joke. BSV people will believe anything. I m happy you had some fun You are happily allowed now to go back and have more fun with your 1MB toys and segwizz and LN and schnorr (bless ya) and ... all such LITTLE nice things, that have nothing to do with Bitcoin - so why care Bitcoin goes BIG
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We've heard about unbounded capital already and think they're wrong. But feel free to go with them if you wish.
We ve heard about Bitcoin doesn't work (as desigend with big blocks) so it would need devs and segwit and LN and schnorr and ... whatever some hidden agendas wish to have ... and think they're wrong. But feel free to go with them if you wish. WE think - no, we KNOW (cause make functional diffs, read the specs) BSV is the correct Bitcoin - and it works ( we accept btc doesn't work, but never will - also cause it's no longer comlpiant at all) ( Funny , using 'we' sounds very strong now - doesn't it? )
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