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1641  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-11-27] 2020 Banks in Germany to offer Crypto Sale and Storage on: December 05, 2019, 10:23:49 PM

That's just it, though.  I'm not convinced customers will have that option when banks offer this "service".  It won't be secure enough if they operate the same way exchanges do, plus they'll want to make it idiot-proof so they don't have to deal with complaints from people who managed to lose their funds doing something stupid, so they'll play gatekeeper.  Like how share dealing often works.  You generally don't have direct access to the shares to do as you wish, you have to contact your share dealer with your instructions and they make the transactions on your behalf.  Then the fiat gets deposited to/withdrawn from your account accordingly (minus their cut). 


We do not have high grade , high regulated exchanges yet - cannot compare to that what the NSYE, XETRA, LSE do, Same holds for Banks.

What we call crypto exch are just bloody wild Casino bokers yet

And you would like your crypto to be exchange in a bank? Trust me this will require more than a KYC and I doubt there rates will be better since they are a bank. Cryptocurrency is about decentralized power and using banks for most of your transaction eliminates it. Yes sure I'm happy that banks are paving the way for Germany but I wouldn't patronize their services mainly because I will lose the power to control my capital, I'm just happy how it will support the mass adoption I am looking for and that's it.

It s always about the amounts. U will not put millions under ur home carpet on ur own risk.

Not even a nerd will.

Lunchmoney fine
1642  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-11-27] 2020 Banks in Germany to offer Crypto Sale and Storage on: December 05, 2019, 07:25:03 AM
we're free to cashout everything and keep it under the bed, but we don't.

That's just it, though.  I'm not convinced customers will have that option when banks offer this "service".  It won't be secure enough if they operate the same way exchanges do, plus they'll want to make it idiot-proof so they don't have to deal with complaints from people who managed to lose their funds doing something stupid, so they'll play gatekeeper.  Like how share dealing often works.  You generally don't have direct access to the shares to do as you wish, you have to contact your share dealer with your instructions and they make the transactions on your behalf.  Then the fiat gets deposited to/withdrawn from your account accordingly (minus their cut). 


We do not have high grade , high regulated exchanges yet - cannot compare to that what the NSYE, XETRA, LSE do, Same holds for Banks.

What we call crypto exch are just bloody wild Casino bokers yet
1643  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-12-02] 5 Small Chinese Crypto Exchanges Shut Down in November 2019 on: December 05, 2019, 07:01:50 AM
I wonder how many they have / had to do with binance ?
1644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2019, 10:02:36 PM
Kind of the only small quality but big hater answer that could fit into a softforked block post.

Well, wrong again, I usually tend to love or ignore, rather than hate.
I dislike dishonest people & liars though, you know - like the ones you are shilling.

Go public with it

Lol
1645  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 04, 2019, 08:11:47 PM
Ja gut, dann eben nicht...

...

Kein BitCoin  > Scam / Schrott wasauchimmer

Danke für die ausführlichen Informationen.

Andererseit müssen wir auch nicht jeden Scheiß hier besprechen.  Cheesy

Absolut. Der ureigenste Kern von BitCoin ist meiner Meinung nach genügend anspruchsvoll aber auch genug ansich, erfüllt alles was man in der Cryptowelt wirklich braucht und alle, die etwas anderes VERKAUFEN wollen, sind mir zunächst suspekt. Es gibt dafür keinen Grund, außer Mittel aus dem BitCoin System zu ziehen....

Der Kern / die Blockchain ist zu wichtig
1646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum SCAM? on: December 04, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
Ethereum is not a scam, but there's plenty of violations in smart contracts posted on Ethereum and people loose funds. Those contracts have various security holes one of which is reroll attacks https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo/blob/master/docs/design/sortition_chains_random.md
Yes because if a coin like Ethereum was a scam everyone cryptos will suffer heavy losses

True.

If u start a scam free experimental project like Bitcoin, don't sell coins to the public, don't do ICO, don't claim things that are proven impossible from the very start.

Start honest and don't sell shit for money, and still promoting things can be fixed sooner or later somehow by central planning and powers - and flee any minimum regulation - but wannabe financial instrument and world computer... wtf
1647  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2019, 07:56:46 PM
standard copy paste snipped ~  It's a dystopian, permissioned ledger for idiotic bugmen that just empowers an absurdly tyrannical state.

~ custom copy paste snipped ~

Nice to see you included yourself, although "men" is an extreme word to use for your case.

#

Any speculation about that unkonwn ?  My guess is Calvin & Satoshi

It's my mom's stack man, not pedoCalvin's and faketoshiCraig's.
Please don't ask me to prove it. Tongue

Kind of the only small quality but big hater answer that could fit into a softforked block post.

 Roll Eyes
1648  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 04, 2019, 11:09:15 AM
Seit heute Nacht kann man mit seinen BTC kostenlos HEX claimen.

(Naja, ist nicht ganz kostenlos, es fallen ETH-Netzwerkgebühren an)

Ich spar mir mal den Referral-Link, meine Anonymität ist mir wichtiger: Cool

go.hex.win

Und was ist HEX?

Kein BitCoin  > Scam / Schrott wasauchimmer
1649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum SCAM? on: December 04, 2019, 08:18:29 AM
All good in scammer's world

https://www.coindesk.com/chinas-internet-firewall-has-blocked-access-to-ethereum-block-explorer-etherscan-io
1650  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2019, 06:36:43 AM


Quote
Our data science team looked at how the proportion of blocks mined by top pools has changed over the past few years. Encouragingly, there seems to be a large degree of competition across these pools.

https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/1201795719671230466

Another graphic for surf lovers.

Any speculation about that unkonwn ?  My guess is Calvin & Satoshi

 Grin


Oh - and 'decentralized' enough ?  LoL
1651  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-10-23] Winklevoss: Bitcoin Is ‘Source of Truth’ on: December 03, 2019, 07:46:50 PM
With SegWit btc is no longer a chain of signatures - that's not good for a decent money - and no, it's not how you do industrial scaling

Industrial scaling? That's something centralized blockchains do because there are businesses behind them doing what's best for their business.

Shady entities tried to do that with Bitcoin in the past but failed. I'm glad big blockers have their own centralized chains to play with now. It suits them well. Plenty of block space yet no one willing to utilize it. In other words, the industry isn't interested.

These business are called miners.

It is open for all to compete

That is BitCoin and secure. Indepenant from block size

I m glad that small blocker have no clue
1652  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 02, 2019, 12:37:12 PM
Verdammt, das Trennungsgebot (lol) fällt weg.

Banken: anschnallen bitte, und am besten zusammen mit den Verbraucherzentralen ein vernünftiges Konzept erarbeiten wie Bitcoin ins Produkte Portfolio aufgenommen werden kann, Assetdigitalisierung kommt offenbar sowieso

https://www.handelsblatt.com/finanzen/maerkte/devisen-rohstoffe/kryptowaehrungen-neues-geldwaeschegesetz-banken-duerfen-bitcoin-verwahren/25276392.html?ticket=ST-47151579-VVrMfLsF5jrog1yEMQPU-ap3


Achja, tschüss anarcho und cripple coins

Die Bankster sollen mit den Verbraucherzentralen zusammenarbeiten... Haha, der war gut!


Stimmt. Das klang beim Schreiben schon wie Cabaret

 Grin

Ham wir gelacht

Offenbar hat jmd zugehört ?

https://finanzen.ruw.de/rdf-news/nachrichten/Marktbefragung-zu-Derivaten-mit-Krypto-Assets-als-Basiswert-39775

Warum braucht es da eine Marktbefragung (als wenn sie auf den kleinen Anleger hören würden)? Wenn Derivate an einer Börse (also keine Kryptobörse, sondern Börse Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Hamburg usw.) angeboten werden, z.B. die von Vontobel, dann geht es nur, wenn die eine Zulassung haben! Mit Risikoabschätzung und dem ganzen Zirkus. Für was brauchen sie dann noch die Meinung anderer?
Oder ist solche Befragung einfach nur gesetzliche Pflicht?

da isser wieder, der kleine bellende  VERBRAUCHERSCHUTZ an der Leine

https://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Konsultation/2019/dl_kon_11_19_Marktbefragung_zu_Derivaten_mit_Kryptoassets_als_Basiswert.html?nn=9021442


der will sicher nur Spielen

Smiley
1653  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 02, 2019, 12:25:58 PM
Verdammt, das Trennungsgebot (lol) fällt weg.

Banken: anschnallen bitte, und am besten zusammen mit den Verbraucherzentralen ein vernünftiges Konzept erarbeiten wie Bitcoin ins Produkte Portfolio aufgenommen werden kann, Assetdigitalisierung kommt offenbar sowieso

https://www.handelsblatt.com/finanzen/maerkte/devisen-rohstoffe/kryptowaehrungen-neues-geldwaeschegesetz-banken-duerfen-bitcoin-verwahren/25276392.html?ticket=ST-47151579-VVrMfLsF5jrog1yEMQPU-ap3


Achja, tschüss anarcho und cripple coins

Die Bankster sollen mit den Verbraucherzentralen zusammenarbeiten... Haha, der war gut!


Stimmt. Das klang beim Schreiben schon wie Cabaret

 Grin

Ham wir gelacht

Offenbar hat jmd zugehört ?

https://finanzen.ruw.de/rdf-news/nachrichten/Marktbefragung-zu-Derivaten-mit-Krypto-Assets-als-Basiswert-39775

1654  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 02, 2019, 08:50:04 AM
Hier die wohl beste Antwort die ich für mich finden konnte weshalb das mit den Institutionellen nicht so wirklich läuft beim Bitcoin

https://youtu.be/HziWLS7oHws

Legal - (Reputation) Risk - Compliance

Ein Eimer Scheisse ist übrigens auch ein 'unkorreliertes Asset'
1655  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-10-23] Winklevoss: Bitcoin Is ‘Source of Truth’ on: December 02, 2019, 07:57:22 AM
Pretty much the blockchain is a source of truth , so for that onchain scaling/capacity is such important

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/charts/segwit-usage

Bitcoin is scaling on-chain. Segwit adoption increasing means Bitcoin's throughput increasing, and that in a slow but steady manner. I'm pretty sure that when Binance rolls out full support for Segwit, that we can reach 60-65% without any problems. Services that haven't upgraded yet will turn out to be more expensive to use, which means that the services using Segwit offer cheaper service. Smiley

With SegWit btc is no longer a chain of signatures - that's not good for a decent money - and no, it's not how you do industrial scaling

1656  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-10-23] Winklevoss: Bitcoin Is ‘Source of Truth’ on: December 01, 2019, 08:39:27 PM
Pretty much the blockchain is a source of truth , so for that onchain scaling/capacity is such important
1657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: December 01, 2019, 08:08:08 AM


nChain patents for BSV may be necessary since:

Russia is engaged in the race for Blockchain technology, as is China, which recently made it official with the voice of Xi Jinping, determined to "take the first place in the emerging field of Blockchains". (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xinhuanet.com%2F2019-10%2F25%2Fc_1125153665.htm&sandbox=1). Announcing the upcoming creation of a national cryptocurrency (the "DCEP").

The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) in general are very interested in Blockchain technology and are even discussing the implementation of a crypto that would be common to them (The 5 BRICS nations is 3 billion people (40% of the world population) and, according to projections, 40% of the world's GDP by 2025.). Used for trade between these countries to circumvent dollar payments: "The dollar's share of BRICS foreign trade regulations has increased from 92% to 50% over the past five years. The implementation of a common cryptomonnaise will thus confirm this trend with the long-term ambition of creating a fully "dollar and SWIFT-proof" ecosystem. "We are talking about a market with 3 billion people.
Between public currencies (such as Bitcoin or Ethereum), state currencies (Digital Currency Electronic Payment - DCEP-, crypto-rouble (finally aborted), Petro in Venezuela, pushes for a crypto-euro...) and private currencies (Ripple, Libra, GRAM...), the hegemony of the Dollar risks being shaken in the future.

By the way, China is already engaged in a commercial fight against GAFAM (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft) with its BATX (Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent, Xiaomi) for the domination of the digital sector and ICT (New Information and Communication Technologies). This is another subject, but it shows China's willingness to be present and competitive on these issues https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/China-triples-US-in-blockchain-patent-filings

At European level, the same enthusiasm among institutions (especially triggered by the shock - or awakening - generated by the announcement of the upcoming launch of Libra): the German and French finance ministers agree on the idea of pushing for the implementation of a crypto-euro.

A member of the ECB's Executive Board recently argued this point (https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2019/html/ecb.sp191126~5230672c11.en.html). The Senior Deputy Governor of the Banque de France also advocates the use of the Blockchain at the European level (https://www.banque-france.fr/sites/default/files/medias/documents/2019_11_21_afme_discours_db_vf2clean.pdf).
In addition, German banks will soon be able to keep Bitcoin as well as gold (https://www.handelsblatt.com/finanzen/maerkte/devisen-rohstoffe/kryptowaehrungen-neues-geldwaeschegesetz-banken-duerfen-bitcoin-verwahren/25276392.html?ticket=ST-53239332-yvi42LJVmV6yorSUqjcc-ap1).

And French institutions do not remain marbled, as evidenced by the Senate's latest report on crypto-actives: http://www.senat.fr/rap/r19-007-1/r19-007-11.pdf/ .

The United States is also moving a lot on this issue. If Congress seems very busy slamming Zuckerberg's wrists, putting obstacles in Libra's way, to make him pay for the scandals around Cambridge Analytica, the fact remains that the United States has a very active Blockchain ecosystem. Moreover, the FED has recently stated that it is conducting research on the costs and benefits of issuing a crypto-dollar (https://www.coindesk.com/fed-reserve-evaluating-digital-dollar-but-benefits-still-unclear-says-chairman).

Iran, Tunisia, Paraguay, Switzerland, Wales, Estonia, South Korea, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan have also been doing so for a long time, in other words, so many countries that are aware of the race launched and have decided to participate in it in order not to be left behind. These are all countries that are quick to put in place regulations that will, they all hope, be optimal for the development of their national Blockchain ecosystem.
I am not talking about all the projects and companies that have started and have already developed well because it would be too long but I invite you to find out for yourself because it is exciting and impressive (I will soon make an article with a list of sites to follow so you don't miss anything).



The application space is sheer infinite and BSV will take em all sooner or later (meh, not decentral enough) by economic and maybe also compliance reasons.

The only hurdle is the anarcho and criminal touch in the space and the latent fear of protocol forgery instability so that industry is in wait mode / play private blockchain game mode for some time.

Not all. Happy advent Bodog.com

https://mobile.twitter.com/Diegoioisp/status/1200997109601845248





Don't shit on him and his genius work

Oh, the irony...

If ya wanna alter his work > esp into un-functioning / cripple capacity, and still call it Bitcoin -> you shit on him and his years of work

No irony

Iron hard arguments
1658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 30, 2019, 08:38:45 PM
Group F... Tongue



how is it even possible to have France, Germany and Portugal in one group?
Wicked.

Agreed. Wtf.

German will do it

 Wink
1659  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 30, 2019, 02:42:05 PM
Verdammt, das Trennungsgebot (lol) fällt weg.

Banken: anschnallen bitte, und am besten zusammen mit den Verbraucherzentralen ein vernünftiges Konzept erarbeiten wie Bitcoin ins Produkte Portfolio aufgenommen werden kann, Assetdigitalisierung kommt offenbar sowieso

https://www.handelsblatt.com/finanzen/maerkte/devisen-rohstoffe/kryptowaehrungen-neues-geldwaeschegesetz-banken-duerfen-bitcoin-verwahren/25276392.html?ticket=ST-47151579-VVrMfLsF5jrog1yEMQPU-ap3


Achja, tschüss anarcho und cripple coins

Die Bankster sollen mit den Verbraucherzentralen zusammenarbeiten... Haha, der war gut!


Stimmt. Das klang beim Schreiben schon wie Cabaret

 Grin
1660  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 30, 2019, 06:52:56 AM
Verdammt, das Trennungsgebot (lol) fällt weg.

Banken: anschnallen bitte, und am besten zusammen mit den Verbraucherzentralen ein vernünftiges Konzept erarbeiten wie Bitcoin ins Produkte Portfolio aufgenommen werden kann, Assetdigitalisierung kommt offenbar sowieso

https://www.handelsblatt.com/finanzen/maerkte/devisen-rohstoffe/kryptowaehrungen-neues-geldwaeschegesetz-banken-duerfen-bitcoin-verwahren/25276392.html?ticket=ST-47151579-VVrMfLsF5jrog1yEMQPU-ap3


Achja, tschüss anarcho und cripple coins
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