To be honest that doesnt sound like september delivery to me. Come on it is just two weeks... People paid for jupiters about 100 bitcoins with vat, when network speed was 180TH/s, now 1PH They will get back around 50% btc in next few months After knc 1 batch, network will achieve 4PH or more, so people from the end of october will get back 30% or less. November batch 2 pricing is not profitable at all. No they didn't they paid for a product priced in dollars, and most of the promised network for this period hasn't made it online. They are likely at this point in time to make back most of their money before the Nov shipment, and why would anyone choose to pay the VAT over setting up a small business and offsetting the hardware and electricity cost/hosting as part of that business? Not to hijack the thread but the VAT (value added tax is it?), is it applicable to US buyers? I thought not, but of course there's no reason to think the poster is from the US. |
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I just received the V2 blade today. I plugged Ethernet and 12V power (just like V1 blade which worked fine but have disconnected while I am trying to config the new V2 blade)... No response from Blade (no lights -- but maybe just a tiny bit of heat as if it could be alive). Power reads fine at 12V with a multimeter. The V1 blade will at least flash ethernet lights when power is applied. Does anyone know if Ethernet light flashes on boot with V2 blades? I get 'page cannot be displayed' if I goto 192.168.1.254:8000 with a browser. The installed fuse still tests fine with a multimeter too. Any ideas? NOTE: ASICminer V2 blade instructional diagram here: http://www.minersource.net/asicminer-blade/4579132096Notice the holes in the corners for the standoff posts. The two sticking out on bottom were snapped off on mine even though it was sealed in an antistatic bag (anyone else have these holes snapped off?).  One is snapped off but I may have done that as I hadn't noticed them before. The one off has no effect as my miner is working fine. Voltage measured at the plus and minus on the board directly is correct? With voltage applied does the status light on your router show any change at the port the Blade gets plugged into? |
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Thought no chips were to go out until after the backlog was cleared.
...unless you offer champagne. BFL has a financial incentive to ship chips with a balance due on delivery. Exactly right. I'm anxious to see what they do. If they ship chips before clearing the backlog, I fear Josh may be set adrift in a rowboat and all his breadfruit plants thrown overboard. What has shipping chips got to do with clearing the backlog? Absolutely nothing, the production line is not involved. Their posted position on taking ASIC orders was that they would not ship any bulk chips until the backlog was cleared. They said that they would not be selling chips that could compete with pre-orders so all pre-orders would first be shipped. It is extremely unlikely their pre-order backlog will be shipped by 9/19 of this year. Perhaps they're setting the stage to renege on that at the same time signaling they have no intention of a cessation of shipping for some months as KnC has indicated would so as to protect KnC's customers. |
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Thought no chips were to go out until after the backlog was cleared.
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[12:06 AM] Searing : although kncminer and others offerting regular credit card stuff etc plus paypal etc may have to be addressed by bfl someday ....people are (less monarch upgrades who are stuck ) are gonna be cautions on pre-orders from now on and use cc imhjo
[12:06 AM] BFL_Josh : We'll see if they are still in business in 6 months.
I'm sure BFL will still be in the business of scamming n00bs in six months, which is sad. It's kind of amazing he doesn't even believe it's possible for a company to just say what it's going to do, when it's going to do it, and then actually deliver. I question if BFL will be open in a year's time to even be taking orders, though I'm sure they'll do their best to continue taking preorders from court even while sitting at their hearing. Enough complaints are piling up that it's reaching the right legal ears. More folks need to file official complaints to break the dam. Their entire production line has all but come to a halt over the past 13 days (minus a rig or two), and it's gotten even some stalwart BFL supporters worried. Maybe I missed it, but there shouldn't be a bitbet on KNC delivering, it should be on how long until the folks at BFL are hauled off to court, and their location shut down. As they say on TV detective shows: Something hinkey there. |
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I can't find any current information on how to plug the new style Blades into a standard PSU. My order from Canary for 2 Blades just arrived today and all of the old how-to instructions only apply to the old design with different power connectors. Was I suppose to get some kind of adapter?
I have a backplane coming from a different source. Hopefully that will make it easier. I'd rather not be fashioning my own connectors. Frankly, that's just ridiculous.
Thanks in advance for any help!
I did just that this morning only to find I had overlooked the connector in the padded envelop as it was outside the brown box. Still using the fabricated connector made from two smaller drive connectors cut down from 4 to 3. Still slinging the accepted shares back to the pool as it has all day. Love it. The provided connector takes stripped wires. One fashions the opposite gender of hard drive plugs from power splitters and drives the Blade from two drive plugs. One also needs to jump the ATX motherboard plug green wire to a black wire or use an ATX power supply checker to get the supply to wakeup. Not sure about quality server supplies from old servers as I tried one today, jumped what appeared to be the green wire to a ground and it didn't work. Tried a supply checker and it seemed to show it was bad only showing +5VDC. I put the supply back in the server and mashed the off/on button and it woke up properly. So, the server supplies may be different. So, yes, the server supply seems different, not responding to the paperclip trick or the tester. What I did do was to leave the switching supply in the server connected to the motherboard (dual XEONs) and ran the leads to the Blade and applied power. The Blade woke up and according to my mining_proxy page is pumping out accepted shares. This is not without a problem tho. I can't access the Blade data input webpage. I had changed the Blade address to 192.168.1.200 and that address answers pings but will not respond to an http:// request (note pinging .1.254 get's host unreachable). The measured voltage at the Blade is 11.59V. I do trust the server supply more than the motor supply which as I said was running hot, dropping wattage across a voltage regulator. I have a switching supply on order. Will go with this for now. Might put another supply in parallel for the time being. If it weren't pumping out accepted shares so effectively I'd reboot. All's well, forgot :8000 |
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I can't find any current information on how to plug the new style Blades into a standard PSU. My order from Canary for 2 Blades just arrived today and all of the old how-to instructions only apply to the old design with different power connectors. Was I suppose to get some kind of adapter?
I have a backplane coming from a different source. Hopefully that will make it easier. I'd rather not be fashioning my own connectors. Frankly, that's just ridiculous.
Thanks in advance for any help!
I did just that this morning only to find I had overlooked the connector in the padded envelop as it was outside the brown box. Still using the fabricated connector made from two smaller drive connectors cut down from 4 to 3. Still slinging the accepted shares back to the pool as it has all day. Love it. The provided connector takes stripped wires. One fashions the opposite gender of hard drive plugs from power splitters and drives the Blade from two drive plugs. One also needs to jump the ATX motherboard plug green wire to a black wire or use an ATX power supply checker to get the supply to wakeup. Not sure about quality server supplies from old servers as I tried one today, jumped what appeared to be the green wire to a ground and it didn't work. Tried a supply checker and it seemed to show it was bad only showing +5VDC. I put the supply back in the server and mashed the off/on button and it woke up properly. So, the server supplies may be different. |
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Hi Canary, which forum do you suggest for setup questions? I fabricated a plug, wired to 12vdc of a computer switching supply with a 12 volt rail rated at 15 amps with a jumper on the main plug. Testing gave me the 12 vdc on the line. Firing it up with the Blade in place got no power. Unplugged the Blade and power. Plugged the Blade in to the supply which was already powered and blew something in the power supply. Unexpected wake-up surge perhaps? I have a power supply for driving motors I can bring from zero up to 20 vdc I may try.
soy
I'm sure it's the supply not strong enough.
Okay, working on a 12volt motor supply. Now here's a problem - when I input my information, it won't change from "asicminer_test:password,update=Update/Restart" to the new user:pass and the neither of two stratum proxys accept it as such. Okay, have it working now. Needed not only two servers, which I had, but did need two user:pass entries regardless if they are the same on both servers. Ah, that's pretty, the accepted shares flying by on the mining proxy screen. Two and a half hours later I find the supplied connector in the shipping envelop. These are quite a bear to power! The motor supply (non-switching) is heating. Put the switching supply that had failed to accept the start-up inrush current in parallel. Doesn't seem to be a big help. Tried turning down the motor supply and letting the 300watt supply (which claims good for 15 amps on 12 volt line) take over but it won't; it instead shuts down. Looks like I'll have to invest. |
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Hi Canary, which forum do you suggest for setup questions? I fabricated a plug, wired to 12vdc of a computer switching supply with a 12 volt rail rated at 15 amps with a jumper on the main plug. Testing gave me the 12 vdc on the line. Firing it up with the Blade in place got no power. Unplugged the Blade and power. Plugged the Blade in to the supply which was already powered and blew something in the power supply. Unexpected wake-up surge perhaps? I have a power supply for driving motors I can bring from zero up to 20 vdc I may try.
soy
I'm sure it's the supply not strong enough.
Okay, working on a 12volt motor supply. Now here's a problem - when I input my information, it won't change from "asicminer_test:password,update=Update/Restart" to the new user:pass and the neither of two stratum proxys accept it as such. Okay, have it working now. Needed not only two servers, which I had, but did need two user:pass entries regardless if they are the same on both servers. Ah, that's pretty, the accepted shares flying by on the mining proxy screen. |
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Hi Canary, which forum do you suggest for setup questions? I fabricated a plug, wired to 12vdc of a computer switching supply with a 12 volt rail rated at 15 amps with a jumper on the main plug. Testing gave me the 12 vdc on the line. Firing it up with the Blade in place got no power. Unplugged the Blade and power. Plugged the Blade in to the supply which was already powered and blew something in the power supply. Unexpected wake-up surge perhaps? I have a power supply for driving motors I can bring from zero up to 20 vdc I may try.
soy
I'm sure it's the supply not strong enough.
Okay, working on a 12volt motor supply. Now here's a problem - when I input my information, it won't change from "asicminer_test:password,update=Update/Restart" to the new user:pass and the neither of two stratum proxys accept it as such. |
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Hi Canary, which forum do you suggest for setup questions? I fabricated a plug, wired to 12vdc of a computer switching supply with a 12 volt rail rated at 15 amps with a jumper on the main plug. Testing gave me the 12 vdc on the line. Firing it up with the Blade in place got no power. Unplugged the Blade and power. Plugged the Blade in to the supply which was already powered and blew something in the power supply. Unexpected wake-up surge perhaps? I have a power supply for driving motors I can bring from zero up to 20 vdc I may try.
soy
I'm sure it's the supply not strong enough.
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god, the public, ya blame him? |
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Um...
proxy.exe error: argument -p/--port: invalid int value 'password'
Doh,
I might have it!
its -cu and -cp
And...
It still doesn't work. hmmm. port 3333, just never fully connects and no port, it scrolls crazy fast.
I'm getting a "transport exception" and a ERROR proxy Client_service on timeout.
Use this guide/faq Faq: .... 4. Stratum proxy czyli bramka dla blade na swiat - pobieramy ze strony https://github.com/slush0/stratum-minin ... /downloads - pomocny opis tutaj http://mining.bitcoin.cz/mining-proxy-howto- ustawiamy na wybrana kopalnie np. Polmine - zmieniamy w panelu blade ip docelowe na ip komputera z proxy przykladowa konfiguracja - wrzucamy do autostartu pliczek z pulpitu ktory ma taka np. skladnie polecenia C:\Users\uzytkownik\Downloads\mining_proxy.exe -o api.polmine.pl -p 8361 - ustawiamy blade tak np. IP 192.168.1.201 Mask 255.255.255.0 Gateway 192.168.1.1 WEB Port 8000 Primary DNS 192.168.1.1 Secondary DNS 8.8.8.8 Ports 8332,8332 Server addresses 192.168.1.100,192.168.1.100 (.100 to nr ip komputera z proxy) user:pass uzytkownikeb201:x,uzytkownikeb201:x .... https://forum.bitcoin.pl/asicminer-blade-faq-pomoc-techniczna-i-zdjecia-koparek-t9303.htmlDo you need two user:pass? You might be addressing two servers of a single pool and the user pass would be the same on any server of that pool. |
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Is that no because the linux is for an arm processor? Or that the resources onboard are only sufficient for the specific mining task?
Maybe the way to go would be with a hacked Linksys router; it having linux installed then stratum-mining-proxy installed and dedicated to the Blade(s).
If limited resources and not expandable, then that might be for any number of reasons. One might be to prevent something like a cgminer installation as that would show each and every ASIC. If one were running poorly it might not really show in the overall stats but if one were running cgminer and looking at the stats of each ASIC it would be clear.
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Ill answer that for you: So how bout them blades? Ethernet is handy in it's own right, but USB would be nice so I could just throw it on my pi...
Will the interface be the same? Native stratum support? Why remove the overclock?
Are more pictures/information available for power connections and backplanes?
Will the backplanes be sold seperately?
Ill answer that for you: We are glad to introduce our new model of Block Erupter Blades to the market. The hashing unit, the power module, and the ethernet controller are now integrated into one board, resulting in a more compact design with higher computation density. Besides the original power connector, the plug-able gold fingers are added to the blade. The blades are also complemented with a back-plane for them to fit in (10 in 1). It makes deployment easier and quicker. While the back-plane is compatible with any normal PSUs with its cable-based connector, it also offers a slot for a certain brand of widely available PSUs ( Part Number: HP DPS 800GBA or ATSN 7001044-Y000). Spec: 10GHhash/s guaranteed. Rated speed 10.752GHash/s. 200mm x 160mm in size. Resellers:US: eleuthria, CanaryInTheMine, SilentSonicBoom Canada: teek EU, Switzerland and North Europe: yxt China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau: rockxie Australia: leotreasure@gmail.comIndia: Pinwheel Purchasers from the rest of the world can buy the products directly from us. One back-plane will be provided per ten Block Erupter Blade (New Model). Former warranty conditions still hold. Mailing address for sales: asicminer.blades@gmail.com. Mailing address for support: asicminer.help@gmail.com. To purchase, please send your full name/address/zip code/phone number to the mailing address for sales.   Notes:1. Please make sure that the polarity of PSUs matches the polarity on the backplane. If you are connecting the blades to the PSU without backplane, please also make sure that the polarity matches each other. I see the question partially answered. My first Blade should arrive tomorrow. I have stratum-mining-proxy set up on a local network machine but I'd rather reduce bandwidth by having the stratum-mining-proxy installed on the Blade itself. I take it the Blade is running a linux distribution? Which may I ask? Can stratum-mining-proxy be install on the Blade using git? |
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Yes. Actually it is. Since it's the truth.
I quote: Who is going to read >400 pages and the search function of this site sucks.
I read them. All of them. And I am able to use the search function properly.
Congratulations! I guess that achievement gives you the right to belittle anyone else that comes along with a question. Nope, but it gives me the right to point out the information you wanted in a short and effective way and critize your lack of ability to get them yourself. Seriously, if you feel emotional hurt over my comment - just don't post questions like that. I am generally in favor of questions. Every one has them, you know? But most people try to get the answers themself first before spamming a 400+ pages thread with them. If your question would have been: Hey does anyone know if Upgrades are possible for November orders? - I would have given the same answer in the same tone as bitcoinorama. But not to a "hey guys, I am too lazy to look for the answer myself for 5 minutes" post! It wasn't my question. Go back and look. The question was mine. Sure like the ignore - mash it all the time. And I would have thought if I had happened across mention of how those modules are attached to the main board it would have registered. I still don't know. Reading 400+ pages on the chance an informed reader mentioned it seems less a good idea than asking. |
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I understand the Mercury in a box that can hold 3 more modules was simplicity. Will upgrade modules be possible? Something on the order of a snap-in box to add an additional module or will the initial module installation be it?
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The backplane seems to have a HP/COMPAQ DPS-800GB, an 850W supply, powering 10 Blades. So, 85 watt/Blade? 85w/12vdc=7.0amps 7.0amps per Blade?
I have a Blade arriving soon and am putting together what I need. Does the board have the 4pin 12vdc female or, besides the fingers to be powered from the backplane, only the green screw-down connector? Because if no female 4 pin 12vdc connector I'll rip down an old motherboard to fabricate a interconnect from its main connector so as not to damage the supply's 4 pin 12 vdc connector.
Only the green screw-down connector. Okay then, have already harvested the center 4 pins from a mb connector. Have the pwr supply 4 pin connector from a trashed supply. Will replace the thin wires with that from a 6 foot white extension cord (easy to mark the 12vdc with red magic marker) and solder directly to the 12dc and ground in the power supply in effect adding an additional 4 pin 12vdc out. Using the same gauge extension cord will put the harvested center 4 pins orienting clip to the green connector as I've miswired to those green connectors in projects before. Now to figure cooling. I like the PCB rack I saw in a post somewhere. Until the 120mm fans I've ordered arrive I can whip up a PCB stand for the single Blade and cool with a room fan. |
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The backplane seems to have a HP/COMPAQ DPS-800GB, an 850W supply, powering 10 Blades. So, 85 watt/Blade? 85w/12vdc=7.0amps 7.0amps per Blade?
I have a Blade arriving soon and am putting together what I need. Does the board have the 4pin 12vdc female or, besides the fingers to be powered from the backplane, only the green screw-down connector? Because if no female 4 pin 12vdc connector I'll rip down an old motherboard to fabricate a interconnect from its main connector so as not to damage the supply's 4 pin 12 vdc connector.
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Thank you for your professionalism.  |
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