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1581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 19, 2014, 04:13:32 AM
damnit knc, why did you have to remove ports 5 & 6 from the Nov Jups.  Sad

Some of the Oct Jupiters were shipped with only 4 ports as well. Not really fair for those that planned to upgrade them.

$2 in parts, a little soldering skills....



No soldering skills here, but can you link me to the parts?
+1 on that request.

I solder.  It is not a simple as it sounds.  The odds are higher that you'll make your controller board non-functional than succeed in adding sockets - unless you are an experienced technician with a lot of soldering time.  Get an old motherboard, remove a connector with .1" spacing between the pins even if it has many more pins than the socket  you wish to add to the controller board.  Try putting  one of those sockets into the motherboard.  You'll see it's more difficult than you expect.  Anyone who would tell a novice to try such a thing to a controller board is looking to reduce the net hashrate by killing your machine.

Saying "I solder" is like saying "I Drive"  you can be good at it or bad.

With a $10 desoldering pump and a decent iron this is (on a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being surface mount technology)  a 3 at the worst.
Its 10 huge holes that need to be cleared and a socket installed.


If the thread weren't 1430 pages, I'd find the post with photos of a user who 'successfully' accomplished the feat.

Certainly is a way to make modules available while as it is....
1582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 19, 2014, 03:42:18 AM
I have an extra controller board given to me by a regular poster in this thread.
Let the bidding begins  Grin
How much do you think it is worth?

With the red herring add your own sockets to controller boards posts, there would be many modules and mangled controller boards up for auction.  Think of it, guy ruins a Jupiter hoping to overclock with extra modules that aren't even available, he makes a mess of it and abashedly auctions off 4 modules.

(go ahead, call me a fink)
1583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 19, 2014, 01:14:51 AM
damnit knc, why did you have to remove ports 5 & 6 from the Nov Jups.  Sad

Some of the Oct Jupiters were shipped with only 4 ports as well. Not really fair for those that planned to upgrade them.

$2 in parts, a little soldering skills....



No soldering skills here, but can you link me to the parts?
+1 on that request.

I solder.  It is not a simple as it sounds.  The odds are higher that you'll make your controller board non-functional than succeed in adding sockets - unless you are an experienced technician with a lot of soldering time.  Get an old motherboard, remove a connector with .1" spacing between the pins even if it has many more pins than the socket  you wish to add to the controller board.  Try putting  one of those sockets into the motherboard.  You'll see it's more difficult than you expect.  Anyone who would tell a novice to try such a thing to a controller board is looking to reduce the net hashrate by killing your machine.
1584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 18, 2014, 09:59:36 PM
Need some help guys, I reflashed my 99.1-t miner to 99.1-t so that I could get rid of bfgminer and now my miner has changed ips's and I cannot ssh or access its web interface. Also its drawing 235 watts. I tried to do the 5 presses 5 seconds 5 press and then I rebooted and that did not do that trick so I think I need to try the sd card reflash. Has anyone done this?


Does anyone know how to perform the sd card reflash?

Thanks!

Find out what IP address it's using.  Use linux nmap or if you use Windows, there's a Windows version I suppose will give you the same data.

running nmap on one of my linux machines, the network address is 192.168.1.0 so the command is:

nmap 192.168.1.*

then it will output a scan report for every device on your network including some non-existent Windows devices.  The Merc gave me this:

Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.xyz (not really xyz)
Host is up (0.00013s latency).
Not shown: 998 closed ports
PORT     STATE     SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx (Unknown)

It is reported as having an unknown manufacturer.

When my Merc has become difficult after a change of some kind, I disconnect the ribbon cables from the controller board and boot to access the BBB.

1585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 18, 2014, 07:57:17 PM
It helps to remember that once these outlive their profitability they have no use.  They can't be used for video games, they can't be used for distributed computing in the search for extraterrestrials nor can they be used with folding@home investigating protein folding.
1586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 18, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
If KnC just wants to exercise their machines and easily observe their NPS, since they know who bought Saturns and Mercurys, and since they know how many upgrade modules those buyers purchased, they can calculate how many unfilled positions there remain of the October orders and send out offers of upgrade modules only to those customers with *possible* open module positions and offer only enough to fill those boxes bringing them all up to Jupiters. (I have a Merc with two open positions.)
1587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 18, 2014, 02:57:41 PM
I'm not being vague.

I've just got back to Stockholm and got you an update immediately, as promised. The first day I'm back.

Your freaking out about the Neptune design and it's exactly where it needs to be.

It's been worked on throughout Christmas. They have a working FPGA copy. That's quite significant progress as is. 20nm is absolute breakneck cutting edge tech and they don't want to screw the design up. They started just before Christmas and they are already at this stage. Would I call it preliminary design? yes I would. I would call everything before RTL submission that. Would you rather I lie? You claim I'm being vague and I'm actually being very specific. I've told you precisely where we are at without giving away anything of significant competitive sensitivity. I could be vague and just say it's all on track and you'd be none the wiser. Where do you expect them to be at this stage after working solidly through Christmas?! Designs aren't just pulled out of hats and components need to be sourced in volume with short lead times and guess what a lot of those guys take Christmas off. Rest assured what needs to be done is being done and the Q1/Q2 delivery estimation is there to give us the breathing space to do it professionally and to a level of competency that we believe is achievable.

Also first thing I was told on arrival was they sold out of Neptunes the night before. Do not shoot the messenger. If Andreas/Sam are going to add to the stock overnight between Friday/Saturday - nothing to do with me, but I'd be surprised if they did as they gave no impression they would and I was at the office later than they were.


So, Asian New Years celebrations will be over when?
1588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 18, 2014, 02:54:29 PM
does anyone know what upgrade modules they are referring to, October modules or November modules?  or both types?

KNC seemed more helpful and informative when they needed us to start up their multi-million dollar business, but now it seems the table has turned and they are playing mind games with us so called loyal customers.  Not very cool KNC

one customer that's bought under my reseller ID is trying to communicate with KNC and he's saying that they are not very friendly or helpful at all.

PS. of course I'll give more time to remember who made them, but if they don't come to the party and continue acting like they are, then 2 can play at that game. 

Pretty sure Oct. as there were no November Mercs or Saturns.
1589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 17, 2014, 10:02:19 PM
...
I'm guessing the BBB (BeagleBoneBlack) could be a bottleneck.
...

@ 'Orama/KnC: Could sales of a Jupiter with controllerboard minus BBB be an option ?


if the beaglebone was the bottleneck I'm sure he would of said just that...
There's more (or less) to it they're not revealing.  This seems a bit smelly also.



Perhaps something to do with the FPGA on the controller board interacting with the BBB.
1590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 17, 2014, 09:59:33 PM
I hope they don't go for to much perfection with the Neptunes...  This still is an arms race and difficulty

rising exponentially is still a big part of mining.  no..?

bottleneck with controller boards Huh that's the simplest component of the whole miner.  Could you

please explain Orama..?  I'm not sure I'm believing this unless you/KNC can explain with more detail.  KNC have

pulled miracles in the past with bigger volumes and now there's a bottleneck.  I'm sure another PCB

manufacturers that can make it happen if existing manufacturer is busy. 

Also. didn't KNC tell us to keep BTC handy for these Jupiters.  What's changed..?  Fear of Neptune refunds..? 

by the way they sold out this shouldn't be the case.

Come on, we're all men here.. spill the beans even if some will get upset I'm sure we'll get over it. 

I'm guessing the BBB (BeagleBoneBlack) could be a bottleneck.

Cointerra is using them too, and probably many others, because of the 'powerfulness' of a BBB compared to a raspberryPi.

<Conspiracy mode>

BeagleBone is a US (non-profit)company/foundation, and rPi is from the UK:
Hopefully Cointerra (US company) didn't sign an exclusive deal with BBB, for a certain amount of time/products.

</Conspiracy mode>



Years back Ipads were available and way too expensive for my budget.  I watched closely for reviews of the tablets coming out of Asia.  There was a write up on the Cortex A8 that sounded very good.  Then Merrimobiles offered the Mid816 with the Cortex A8 at a reasonable price.  I still use it as my goto tablet tho I have one newer and three e-readers.  That Cortex A8 is the reason for choosing the BBB.
1591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
hmm, all the conduit is schedule 40 pvc

Okay, I was picturing the stuff we use to use up in NY within stairwells in commercial buildings.
1592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 08:56:02 PM
can lighting hit this thread someday?


Strike X Here


might bring it back from the dead...
Hehehe... surely  



I'm indeed a bit frustrated... I'm still tossing equipment into the truck for the dump-run, and I really don't think 3-phase would have made any difference if it were possible. It blew 90% of what i have...through mains, subpanel breakers, breaker-ed power strips, and psu's
so far, 6 grand in damage, still counting

Just looking out my back door at the power line to a 100 amp breaker box.  Two heavy insulated cables, L1 and L2, wrapped around insulated steel twisted support cabling, the support cabling wrapped around a very heavy insulator and going no further.  The two heavy insulated wires loop out and down to plasitc PVC to the breaker box.  In the ground at the base of the pole is a ground rod.

I think you ran steel conduit from a box to another box outside and grounded it well, sitting above ground it would have attracted the lightening.  Down here they cut the copper grounds that ran up the sides of roadside poles to the support cabling while leaving those copper grounds on poles down on property.  Your conduit offered a better ground than you incoming power support cable perhaps.
1593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
hahahaha.. really?   guess you don't know that two 110 lines make 220 in america....  don't have a grasp eh?  You know I wired my house...right? the neighbors house... and a few others...  all of which passed inspection by the county 1st time round. Not to mention the commercial installs. I frequently worked under a licenced Electrical contractor, and he will sign anything i do
Just sayin
on another note...
Good thing no miners here ATM...
My new 200 amp service line took a direct lightning strike last night  Angry
It blew every breaker in the house, both live phases
It exploded a 20 amp power strip, blew my desktop, microwave, and left a
3 inch long exploded hole in the new conduit. It struck on the portion
of the line we had not been able to bury yet. The mains are literally in pieces.
After calling the power company, they come and find that my transformer is also blown.
They patched me into a local transformer down the street a bit, but only one phase
is still working with a huge exposed/blackened hole in the conduit for now until I
can fix this mess. oh boy.  
So far I was able to get a set of dual 100amp switches for the mains and a
microwave oven (Gotta warm that coffee) to get going
Installing all new 2-2-2 in conduit is gonna be fun I have no way of
splicing the hit portion of the service line   do I?

Pretty sure I don't need to say anymore...don't trust just anybody for electrical advice, especially on the internet. In fact, if you THINK you aren't SURE about something electrical, hire a contractor. Your wife will thank you when the insurance actually covers the fire rather than them blaming your own shoddy handiwork.

Guess you brow beat your customers into paying lots and lots of money.  Shoddy?  What give any indication the work was shoddy?  Lightening will fry anything.
Yeah... guess the electric company was wrong saying my install was okay huh... lol  shoddy hahaha  okay...I'm done  
rip me apart. lol  fact is I don't care really,  you can find your own way...call a contractor....his wire is better because it costs more, right? lol
That lightning got dozens of homes around here

I wire the majority of my own buildings unless I don't have time, but someone who doesn't know simple facts about 3 phase, 240v, and 120v--I would not trust near my breaker box personally. I was simply telling others if you aren't SURE,  hire someone that IS.

Reminds me of electronic proto lab engineers who went to do a show in Chicago where the unions wouldn't let extension cords be used.  The engineers came back with the lowest opinions of those electricians - talked about it for years.
1594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
hahahaha.. really?   guess you don't know that two 110 lines make 220 in america....  don't have a grasp eh?  You know I wired my house...right? the neighbors house... and a few others...  all of which passed inspection by the county 1st time round. Not to mention the commercial installs. I frequently worked under a licenced Electrical contractor, and he will sign anything i do
Just sayin
on another note...
Good thing no miners here ATM...
My new 200 amp service line took a direct lightning strike last night  Angry
It blew every breaker in the house, both live phases
It exploded a 20 amp power strip, blew my desktop, microwave, and left a
3 inch long exploded hole in the new conduit. It struck on the portion
of the line we had not been able to bury yet. The mains are literally in pieces.
After calling the power company, they come and find that my transformer is also blown.
They patched me into a local transformer down the street a bit, but only one phase
is still working with a huge exposed/blackened hole in the conduit for now until I
can fix this mess. oh boy.  
So far I was able to get a set of dual 100amp switches for the mains and a
microwave oven (Gotta warm that coffee) to get going
Installing all new 2-2-2 in conduit is gonna be fun I have no way of
splicing the hit portion of the service line   do I?



Pretty sure I don't need to say anymore...don't trust just anybody for electrical advice, especially on the internet. In fact, if you THINK you aren't SURE about something electrical, hire a contractor. Your wife will thank you when the insurance actually covers the fire rather than them blaming your own shoddy handiwork.

Guess you brow beat your customers into paying lots and lots of money.  Shoddy?  What give any indication the work was shoddy?  Lightening will fry anything.

1595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 08:12:39 PM
I'm wiring my house with 6 x 30-amp 240v circuits to handle my mining equipment. I'm more worried about cooling to be honest  Wink

Yes, I think the low end, efficient, window AC by Haier got bumped by $30-$50 after the summer.  Went looking the other day.

30 amps at 240v is 7kW. Six of them would be 43kW.  That's 40 btu per second - or 146,722 btu per hour.

A 'low end' window AC isn't going to do much.

You just need a lot of ventilation - replace hot air with air from outside, as long as it's less then 70C outside you'll be fine.
well, I hope the Neptunes are 220 for your sake.... lol  bold...doing that without knowing...

It's not bold at all. Almost everything that runs off 110 will run off 220 or 240v with the correct PSU. He's smart, as 220-240v is more efficient and he will be able to handle more Neptunes. You obviously don't have a firm grip on household electricity yet.

If the Neptunes are 220-240vac, he's okay.  If they run at 115vac they'll draw twice the current each.  If he has power into a room that via 12-3, it can be broken down into 115vac outlets some with L1 as hot and some as L2 as hot but the return on the 12-3 has a single neutral.  If Neptunes are to be run at 115vac (unlikely but possible) he could put 2 in series in a McGiver sort of arrangement.  That would keep the current down.  

Oh and one would not plan to run 12-3 or 10-3 to be split into 115vac outlets.  

And sorry Phoenix, I think two 115vac do not add up to 230vac.  Although only 2 phases come into a home they are generated in 3 phases I think.  They do not add up as 1 + 1 = 2.
1596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 05:11:12 PM
I'm wiring my house with 6 x 30-amp 240v circuits to handle my mining equipment. I'm more worried about cooling to be honest  Wink

Yes, I think the low end, efficient, window AC by Haier got bumped by $30-$50 after the summer.  Went looking the other day.

30 amps at 240v is 7kW. Six of them would be 43kW.  That's 40 btu per second - or 146,722 btu per hour.

A 'low end' window AC isn't going to do much.

You just need a lot of ventilation - replace hot air with air from outside, as long as it's less then 70C outside you'll be fine.
well, I hope the Neptunes are 220 for your sake.... lol  bold...doing that without knowing...

I agree, bold.   Here we typically wire a 220v home dryer with 3 wire.  Three wire is a black, a red, a white, and an uninsulated ground conductor so 3 wire actually has 4 conductors.  In a 220v application like a dryer the current is flowing between the red and the black, not so much the neutral.  This means that if you split the 220 into two 115v lines, both returns will be on the single white.  While if you were to run two 12-2 (12 gauge white, black and an uninsulated ground) you'd have two white 12 gauge neutrals to return the current.  You should know that 12-2 only comes in black, white and uninsulated ground so even tho a strip vertical of circuit breakers in a service will alternate between L1 and L2, they will both have black hot leads.  The only time you'll see the red is for a 220vac application.  So, you can take a long 115vac extension cord and go around with that to other outlets and measure between the top right (hot) to top right and find some where hot to hot will measure 230vac while other hot to hot will measure 0v.

You might also see the red in a 14-3 when dual switches are used in a room when the overhead might be switched from either switch.

The original point being (before edit revisions) that if you need the 115vac to run the Neptune for some reason, you'd be able to split the L1 and L2 (from a 12-3), each to a neutral, giving 115vac on each but the neutral will be carrying current from both - a serious limitation.

Edit: It's been many years since I wired homes and I only have this mobile home to go by now but perhaps dryers 220v is simply the red and black (and ground) while not having a neutral but I don't ever recall seeing such a cable - like down here where they figure nobody with any smarts would live in a mobile home they sometimes use the neutral white for the red.
1597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
I'm wiring my house with 6 x 30-amp 240v circuits to handle my mining equipment. I'm more worried about cooling to be honest  Wink

Yes, I think the low end, efficient, window AC by Haier got bumped by $30-$50 after the summer.  Went looking the other day.

30 amps at 240v is 7kW. Six of them would be 43kW.  That's 40 btu per second - or 146,722 btu per hour.

A 'low end' window AC isn't going to do much.

You just need a lot of ventilation - replace hot air with air from outside, as long as it's less then 70C outside you'll be fine.

May I ask this is for how many of which miners?
1598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 16, 2014, 04:00:11 AM
aaah, shootz... hehe... had me fooled all the way... looks like i couldn't see your posts here... heeeh

Ah, I see.

I do use the ignore button freely.  Darned if I don't get tempted to unhide some.

Picture some guy who has me on ignore.  He goes to unhide that message ....
1599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 15, 2014, 11:14:14 PM
Jupiters will always sell.  If Neptunes can be shown to be powered reasonably in a US home without rewiring then they'll sell like hotcakes but still there will be miners who would rather go with a device a quarter the cost of a Neptune.

Powering is the issue I'm sure.  Some look to remove a module if possible - that hopefully bringing it within range of a 15 amp circuit.  But if that is necessary then multiple Jupiters, perhaps in different rooms for separate breakers, would sell.

Why? Who would imagine a Jup would break even now? It won't in BTC for certain.
Worse, who will soon have a fairly large number of Jups to sell , either as units or broken into modules? Because they have 1st dibs on their own new rigs.

Why buy a Jup now interests me most, there may be some logic, but it's totally missed me. It's fucking madness unless reliance on the exchange rate in the long term is involved.


If Knc releases another batch of Jupiters, they will be priced at less than 5k. I bet they would be priced at around 3k, which is about 4 BTC.

A Jupiter purchased now and delivered immediately will almost certainly earn more than 4 BTC in its lifetime.

Looking at some other miners for sale in group purchases they had been priced for a btc break even at about 90 days, at the current rate and without increase, but has stretched out with recent increases.  Perhaps KnC is also seeing that and factoring that in with regard to possible Jupiter sales weighed against those sales degrading Neptune sales.  Jupiter sales will slow Neptune sales unless some Neptunes are fielded and producing.  Jupiter sales will effect sales of other miners.  Staying in the ball park relative to the competition with future Jupiter sales may be a choice they made.
1600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 15, 2014, 10:47:36 PM
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