No need they did it for me, lol Like the old saying goes a picture says a thousand words  I blame it on Snowden. He sensitized the establishment such that now it overreacts. Let's say a govt agency known for snooping asks _that_ miner manufacturing company (won't be named) to let the agency copy all emails and orders from customers because of a potential terrorist threat, the use of BTC to finance terrorism. They agree and feel now they can rest assured they'll be smiled upon in any lawsuit because behind the scenes it will be known they help the good guys. Not good as their ethics are questionable. They see competition (KnC) is going to kicktheirass. Meeting at a European Bitcoin Conference, a spokesman for _that_ miner manufacturing company, gets the ear of KnC reps and hints what they're doing. Since Sweden works agreeably with that US agency on many matters, KnC takes it as a hint they should follow suit to assist the good guys. But, delays have nothing to do with helping the good guys. Delays are the stock in trade of _that_ questionable US miner manufacturing company and leads KnC people astray. The motive is greed and to cause an impediment to KnC success. |
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Received my Saturn today. Crappy packaging, fans were fallen off inside, UPS guy was concerned that contents were damaged when he delivered it...
not too hard to put them back on... but damn KnC, you could have talked to some of us who run group buys and have shipped out a ton of packages, we/I could have been a good resource to help you with your packaging and shipping. At least you would have known what NOT to do...
but anyways, I'm happy that I got it, even though, it's not going to get the btc I paid for it back...
pointed at Eligius pool, working like a champ so far...
Maybe they're sending a signal. They're engineers and therefore not the "complete package", so don't expect hand holding and time consuming efforts at keeping our spirits up as might be expected of salesmen. |
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The Aussie Emu had a Seasonic 850 die after about 10 mins of mining yesterday during a power-cycle
Any other details? Jumper? Voltage tester on the mb connector? it had the paperclip trick employed by a "professional electrician" because Emus cant handle 4v color coded wires.... but no tester was employed... it was running fine... after we were done flashing, setting the ip address, turning ssh on, etc... it was time to power the machine down, to put it into its final resting spot. Dave, the Engineer/electrition decided to "Pull the plug", instead of using the switch. when reconnected to the wall, the psu never turned on again... totally dead.(I was on skype from Hawaii to Toowoomba) I see. My only question is how long was the plug pulled? Maybe he thought it better to get it back up as quickly as possible instead of letting it sit dead for what did they say 30 seconds? Sounds like a blown fuse or fusible link. |
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Like to see an option to ignore any posts that include word xyz. Exclude all posts having the word refund and a lot of bile goes to the bitbucket.
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The Aussie Emu had a Seasonic 850 die after about 10 mins of mining yesterday during a power-cycle
Any other details? Jumper? Voltage tester on the mb connector? |
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A well mashed Ignore button should mean fewer pages.
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There's a brown to the lower dirt there. From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms. Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed. I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet. It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI. This has to be alien what I'm living on. What's up north is the real earth.
Sounds like SR closure didnt prevent you from scoring... I don't get it. Oh, I get it, you take umbrage, implying I'm tripping. |
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The price had better explode. Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.
Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper  ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure! There's a brown to the lower dirt there. From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms. Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed. I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet. It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI. This has to be alien what I'm living on. What's up north is the real earth. |
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For the record: Order #17XX - Paid on 6/9/13 - Status: In Progress (over a week) With generic reply when asking about this (last week, reply recieved today) We are working through the order queue as quickly as possible based on the payment dates of the orders. As soon as your order is fully produced and shipped a tracking number will be sent to the email address which was used to register for your account.
Regards,
Liam They held off shipping to fix the "Caps blowing" issue. Your unit was likely getting assembled when they made this call. Haven't heard many more stories about the caps blowing other than Anti-KnC people claiming the boxes blow up and cause nuclear fallout (lol) so shouldn't be much longer. Yes, and it's the power supply's fault - or is it? Designed to have a motherboard connected to the motherboard connector; a simple 2 pin jumper is commonly used instead; startup current is ramped up until voltage is attained; capacitors charged from a voltage take 5 time constants and 70.7% of the voltage is reached the first time constant so it way not linear but charge a capacitor with a constant current source and you get a perfectly straight charge plot right up to full voltage so a constant current source is used to charge a capacitor creating a linear ramp that they track increasing the output voltage until it's at the required voltage. That capacitor charged from a constant current source does not have to reach 12 volts or even 3.3 volts, it can be a ramp from 0 to 1 volt and can be tracked to control the ramping up of current on the 12 volt line. If the ramp is a capacitor charged from a constant current source on the 3.3 volt line, which has no load output load on the 3.3v line because a jumper is used on the motherboard connector and only the 5 volt and the 12 volt power supplly lines are used, then when you shut down the power supply and disconnect the connectors from the miner, the 3.3volts might remain on the 3.3 volt line of the motherboard connector and it the discharge of the capacitor with the ramped voltage depends on the 3.3v rail going to ground to reset the power supply wake-up 12 volt ramp current, then it's possible to plug that supply back in, flip on the on/off switch and hit the miner with un-ramped current, full current at wakeup, on the 12 volt line and in that instant the voltage goes way beyond 12 vdc. They can take a power supply, a 2 pins jumper, and a test miner, add 3.3v to the 3.3v line on the motherboard connector with a couple of AA batteries, run the miner, shut it down, disconnect the turned off miner leaving the 3.3 battery volts between the 3.3v and ground on the mb connector, reconnect the power supply to the miner, flip on the power supply and look to see if a miner capacitor goes BANG. Hell, if I were in the lab I say build a test rig with a peak detector on the 12vdc line and the battery 3.3v on the mb connector the test one of every major brand of power supply to see what the restart peak is on the 12vdc line. +1 edited (perfectamene is my hallmark) |
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For the record: Order #17XX - Paid on 6/9/13 - Status: In Progress (over a week) With generic reply when asking about this (last week, reply recieved today) We are working through the order queue as quickly as possible based on the payment dates of the orders. As soon as your order is fully produced and shipped a tracking number will be sent to the email address which was used to register for your account.
Regards,
Liam They held off shipping to fix the "Caps blowing" issue. Your unit was likely getting assembled when they made this call. Haven't heard many more stories about the caps blowing other than Anti-KnC people claiming the boxes blow up and cause nuclear fallout (lol) so shouldn't be much longer. Yes, and it's the power supply's fault - or is it? Designed to have a motherboard connected to the motherboard connector; a simple 2 pin jumper is commonly used instead; startup current is ramped up until voltage is attained; capacitors charged from a voltage take 5 time constants and 70.7% of the voltage is reached the first time constant so it way not linear but charge a capacitor with a constant current source and you get a perfectly straight charge plot right up to full voltage so a constant current source is used to charge a capacitor creating a linear ramp that they track increasing the output voltage until it's at the required voltage. That capacitor charged from a constant current source does not have to reach 12 volts or even 3.3 volts, it can be a ramp from 0 to 1 volt and can be tracked to control the ramping up of current on the 12 volt line. If the ramp is a capacitor charged from a constant current source on the 3.3 volt line, which has no load output load on the 3.3v line because a jumper is used on the motherboard connector and only the 5 volt and the 12 volt power supplly lines are used, then when you shut down the power supply and disconnect the connectors from the miner, the 3.3volts might remain on the 3.3 volt line of the motherboard connector and it the discharge of the capacitor with the ramped voltage depends on the 3.3v rail going to ground to reset the power supply wake-up 12 volt ramp current, then it's possible to plug that supply back in, flip on the on/off switch and hit the miner with un-ramped current, full current at wakeup, on the 12 volt line and in that instant the voltage goes way beyond 12 vdc. They can take a power supply, a 2 pins jumper, and a test miner, add 3.3v to the 3.3v line on the motherboard connector with a couple of AA batteries, run the miner, shut it down, disconnect the turned off miner leaving the 3.3 battery volts between the 3.3v and ground on the mb connector, reconnect the power supply to the miner, flip on the power supply and look to see if a miner capacitor goes BANG. Hell, if I were in the lab I say build a test rig with a peak detector on the 12vdc line and the battery 3.3v on the mb connector the test one of every major brand of power supply to see what the restart peak is on the 12vdc line. |
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For the record: Order #17XX - Paid on 6/9/13 - Status: In Progress (over a week) With generic reply when asking about this (last week, reply recieved today) We are working through the order queue as quickly as possible based on the payment dates of the orders. As soon as your order is fully produced and shipped a tracking number will be sent to the email address which was used to register for your account.
Regards,
Liam They held off shipping to fix the "Caps blowing" issue. Your unit was likely getting assembled when they made this call. Haven't heard many more stories about the caps blowing other than Anti-KnC people claiming the boxes blow up and cause nuclear fallout (lol) so shouldn't be much longer. Yes, and it's the power supply's fault - or is it? Designed to have a motherboard connected to the motherboard connector; a simple 2 pin jumper is commonly used instead; startup current is ramped up until voltage is attained; capacitors charged from a voltage take 5 time constants and 70.7% of the voltage is reached the first time constant so it way not linear but charge a capacitor with a constant current source and you get a perfectly straight charge plot right up to full voltage so a constant current source is used to charge a capacitor creating a linear ramp that they track increasing the output voltage until it's at the required voltage. That capacitor charged from a constant current source does not have to reach 12 volts or even 3.3 volts, it can be a ramp from 0 to 1 volt and can be tracked to control the ramping up of current on the 12 volt line. If the ramp is a capacitor charged from a constant current source on the 3.3 volt line, which has no load output load on the 3.3v line because a jumper is used on the motherboard connector and only the 5 volt and the 12 volt power supplly lines are used, then when you shut down the power supply and disconnect the connectors from the miner, the 3.3volts might remain on the 3.3 volt line of the motherboard connector and it the discharge of the capacitor with the ramped voltage depends on the 3.3v rail going to ground to reset the power supply wake-up 12 volt ramp current, then it's possible to plug that supply back in, flip on the on/off switch and hit the miner with un-ramped current, full current at wakeup, on the 12 volt line and in that instant the voltage goes way beyond 12 vdc. |
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With the skyrocketing hashrate, the need to have a huge miner farm to mine effectively, and the excessive cost of miners, one might compare such an investment to buying a Segway to collect deposit soda cans off the roadside and expect to pay off the debt faster than interest on the loan needed to buy the Segway.
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People is worrying about the late shipping with cause them loss.
but i think if they send you a Jupiter as they promise at the day you paid like 2 W/GH/s and 300 even 400gh/s
that is a absolutely loss for today difficulty.
so i think it is still fair even they ship late
when we look at the bfl buyer, we should be glad because KNC is not a company like that
PS : agree all ASIC companies has no customer service skills
PS : i have three Jupiter working atm (preorder 2000 + order 250)
PS : sorry for my poor english
Well that's also true. After all most got more bang for the buck, problem is that the first people getting their KnC stuff is making diff raise higher for us left behind. Well well. 100GH for free isn't bad. And also it's not Oct 15th today either.. Think they are rushing as hell today. Well if you make a compare between the people who are first and later, what do you say about comparing the people who can (have money, exclude people who paid with BTC) buy ASIC miners and people who cannot afford this  ? This is our world. The money will anyway find a way, to more money An article the other day, perhaps on Hacker News, noted that the top US CEOs earn in the time it takes them to take a piss what a minimum a wage worker earns in 4 years. So obviously over time, their income increases, more than keeps up with rising costs, while lowly workers lose. |
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It's a looong way to my 48xx order! Still no "in progress" Got damn what i'm waiting and seeing the difficulty shoot up like a rocket big time..
This is not fun, took a bank loan for my Juppy. But.. I paid within "All orders payed today will be delivered no later than 15th of October" so i'm keeping my head up atm.
The KnCMiner list of orders -October delivery page is showing In Progress status goes as high as order #38xx, while other #38xx orders and all listed higher don't indicate status. |
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Can people start elaborating with order numbers please?
Order numbers 3000 - 7500 > "Paid" status. What other information do you need? No, for days now some 3100+ orders are In Progress. No telling how high those In Progress status go. |
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Now I want to know how a whole datacenter went down for knc hosted customers LOL.
Or is there some maint I'm not aware of.
Looking at mine. It's 0GH/s. Looking at bargraphics. He went from 4.5TH/s to 500GH/s. Which is pretty strange. He still has one miner up and running out of 10.
Mmm seems like he's slowly going down to 0GH/s now.
Maybe all the boards caught fire due to "bad" PSUs and the Halon system engaged. Just kidding but it is bizzare that the entire network went dark at the same time. A route configuration issue maybe? Janitor tripped over ethernet cable? Maybe the local government decided it wants a piece of the action and served a cease and desist until some or other Bitcoin tax is paid. |
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If I remember correctly the stated reason was to prevent power conflict from a powered USB device.
(I thought the Usb cable spec provides protection?) This really does not make sense to me. A powered USB device does not send power back to the USB port it is connected to. It must be something else - I don't think about something fishy, they must have a valid reason, it's just that I don't see it now. Looking at a Dell monitor with a pair of broken USB ports, the USB 5V in only goes to signal its presence and power to the monitor's usb ports is supplied from the monitor power supply. If you look at the inexpensive 7 port USB hubs available now the 5 volts from its supply is common with the 5 volts on any line in. Plug one of those into your BBB board, then mistakenly plug in a 12vdc wall wart with an identical connector as the USB hub's power supply and you have 12vdc heading up into your BBB attached to the Jupiter. |
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They removed the usb from the bbb because it doesnt work with the miner.... good luck
I really wonder : - WHY they removed it - WHAT they precisely removed from the BBB PCB Removing a connector, or having a special run of BBB without the connector, adds complexity to the process. If KnC did that, they must have a really serious reason. Or maybe there was a shortage of USB connectors, but I don't believe this. If they removed only the connector, AND there was no reason to remove it (unlikely), then it should be easy to add a connector and plug a USB device. If anyone feels brave enough to do it, let us know how it turns out Same for the mini HDMI connector, it looks like it's been removed : it would be nice to connect a small LCD screen to show cgminer. It might require some small changes to the firmware so that the "screen" process running cgminer outputs to the framebuffer, but that can be done. I'd love to work on all this, but I need to get my miner first. If I remember correctly the stated reason was to prevent power conflict from a powered USB device. (I thought the Usb cable spec provides protection?) Sadly there is a USB LCD screen that already works with cgminer. hw http://coldtearselectronics.wikispaces.com/USB+LCD+-+LCD+System+infosw https://github.com/cardcomm/cgminerLCDStats"power conflict from a powered USB device " Like a non-powered USB hub sporting 3 USB BEs. |
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They removed the usb from the bbb because it doesnt work with the miner.... good luck
I really wonder : - WHY they removed it - WHAT they precisely removed from the BBB PCB Removing a connector, or having a special run of BBB without the connector, adds complexity to the process. If KnC did that, they must have a really serious reason. Or maybe there was a shortage of USB connectors, but I don't believe this. If they removed only the connector, AND there was no reason to remove it (unlikely), then it should be easy to add a connector and plug a USB device. If anyone feels brave enough to do it, let us know how it turns out Same for the mini HDMI connector, it looks like it's been removed : it would be nice to connect a small LCD screen to show cgminer. It might require some small changes to the firmware so that the "screen" process running cgminer outputs to the framebuffer, but that can be done. I'd love to work on all this, but I need to get my miner first. And a fully capable BBB having shortfalls with a Jupiter doesn't absolutely mean it can't work with a Mercury. |
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