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1721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 15, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
Still thinking about the offer on German ebay to rent his Jupiter for 12 hours, pay cash first.  Love it.
1722  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Currently available mining hardware for rent on: December 15, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
I've read that on the German ebay a user rents out his mining gear.  He rents out his Jupiter for 12 hours, you provide the address the miner will send mining output to.  You give him cash first.
1723  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I wil get this blade working. on: December 15, 2013, 07:25:01 PM
I even changed my router to have a 192.168.1.x Ip. takes me to bing everytime.

Back when my Blade was working I sometimes had a failure to reset.  Maybe I didn't give it enough time to reset properly.  Tough finding a setup description on the V2 blades showing how to reset - probably because the V2.01 revs are pictured as not having a reset header.

I'd try shorting the factory reset pins with the Blade off.  Firing it up and watching the green LED flash then stop but leaving it powered for a full minute.  Then completely off for a full minute with the ethernet cable unplugged.  Then plug the ethernet cable back in, remove the jumper for the factory reset and put in a neutral position, e.g. single pin, then fire up and try accessing 192.168.1.254:8000 again.  Give it sufficient time to wake up fully.

1724  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Erupter Blade V2 issue - not powering on on: December 15, 2013, 07:08:32 PM
So here is the type of fuse I have:



And here it is on the board, does not look like it can be removed:





Interesting.  Saw a Blade photo on another thread and there was no reset header.  No removable fuse as well?
1725  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: internet speed on: December 15, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
naa we dont pay for electricty while we are deploy to afghanistan hhehe, but i did just ping this address and i think it will allow mt to mine, as soon as i can find a cpu miner that works

ping stratum.btcguild.com:3333 did not ping, but stratum.btcguild.com did without the port

Reply from 198.245.63.145: bytes=32 time 1190ms ttl=54


maybe i should just have the miner sent here, seeing as i am here for 3 months at a time with a month off




If some poster asks for your exact GPS coordinates, duck.
1726  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: circuit diagram of block erupter blade rev 2.01 network socket needed on: December 15, 2013, 06:42:57 PM
im going to try a claim on amazon

as for pics http://onesan.su/up/download/1386314467.jpg

when i got it the top right socket ground was all that was holding it to the board, the left one as you can see had completely come apart
from the board and the socket was twisted slightly.

oh and if your wondering, yes my desoldering pump has apparently disappeared since i last used it :/

Wow, they're shipping without a reset header?
1727  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Any tips on how to get hold of a real person at Butterfly Labs? on: December 15, 2013, 06:34:58 PM
Got chilly in Kansas so the office and management moved to the Caymans.
1728  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Help understand Black Arrow, Neptune? on: December 15, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
I'd like to know why knc discontinued a product that isn't even really available.  I thought after the initial batch of Jupiters sold out there would be another.  I was ready to buy the next in the 2nd batch when they got their shit together.  Now it's not even available to order and the next new thing is preorder (Neptune).  It's like they love to have a perpetual preorder making it risky for buyers.


Unlike a well known and well trashed in the forums hardware manufacturer in the US, it seems the KnC people look at the what their production does to their customers' mining effectiveness.  If they just dump all the miners then can manufacturer out into the wild, return will plummet - miners will make squat.  It's an ethical decision.  Their customers put faith in them by paying pre-orders in sizable amounts to an unknown company.   It paid off.  Existing customers now get first shot at limited production miners and they go fast.  It seems unfair if one doesn't own a KnC miner but then there was that pre-order risk.

1729  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Help understand Black Arrow, Neptune? on: December 15, 2013, 05:49:42 PM

All in or all out. I'd essentially set this up and forget it.
 

Ha.  These miners need about the same attention as a newborn home from the maternity ward.

1730  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN IN-STOCK] batch #33 0.38 btc per Blade, 49-port HUBS, backplanes on: December 15, 2013, 05:42:27 PM
Did I read somewhere 5 - 10 days on returns for repair or replacement or return of original if rejected for some reason?

I paid 4btc and the value lately seems to hover around $900 so that's like $3600, more than the trade-in value of both my car and truck combined.  (Us electronics technicians/engineering aides retire wealthy you can guess.)


So, if 10 days at Canary, and add transit time, a repair would leave at one difficulty, seen a jump, and then another before it gets back home.

Wonder if a new buy or a replacement Blade is the V2.001 without the reset header and having a soldered fuse.

--------------------------

A replacement Blade is in the works!
1731  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What's an ordinary power draw from a Saturn? on: December 15, 2013, 05:35:45 PM
anyone out there with a saturn?! Tongue

Of course it depends on the firmware one is running but my Merc was drawing 140 watts at the wall I think but I upgraded with a second supply and a single module and that add-on module is less efficient so the end result is now (looks at the kill-a-watt) 361-362watts with two non-computer switching supplies and a BBB wall wart.
1732  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Block erupter issues on: December 15, 2013, 05:26:32 PM
I got 12 block Erupters that I bought back in Aug. they were working fine till a few weeks ago. I can't figure out what's wrong with them. I had them plugged into a Raspberry Pi running cgminer.
When I try to run it now, I get a error ffffff or error 000000. If I put in each miner individually they work just fine (tested each of them for a hr+ and no issues).
I tried a different PC with the same usb hubs and same issue

The psu for the hub could be dieing.  I've had two or three slowly die and it generates all kinds of problems.  You must have .5 amp at each port.

Quote
I tried the same PC with a new hub and same issue
Any thoughts on what could be going on? If it was the miners, then they wouldn't be hashing. If it was the usb hub, then replacing it would of fixed the issue. If it was the program then a new pc or usb would fix it....

The new hub had sufficient power for each stick?
Burn a new .img on a new sd card for the Pi, cards have a limited lifespan.

I gave up on the damn wall warts and the problems and heat they generate.  I hacked a psu to use the 5v rail to power most of my hubs, little more noise and lot less heat.

Every once in a while you might do a "df" on the RPi running cgminer.  I found my card filling up with stuff in a donations folder hash.
1733  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN IN-STOCK] batch #33 0.38 btc per Blade, 49-port HUBS, backplanes on: December 14, 2013, 07:48:28 AM
Does anyone know how I find the transaction "tracking" number? I sent payment but feel like I'm missing a step.

I did the whole "signature" thing under the receive tab on Blockchain but I can't wrap my head around how this information has anything to do with my transaction.

It's this type of stuff with the user experience of online wallets and transactions that makes Bitcoin a bit scary. Right now I know I sent a payment, but I can't quite be certain I jumped through the correct hoops within the online wallet.

Edit: figured out they probably want the shipping tracking number to prove who I am. Had to read up on signing to understand the purpose. Payment sent, label and info have been emailed.

The purpose of the 'signature thing' is to prove you have ownership/control of the wallet from which the btc had been sent. 
1734  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: USA capital gains on: December 13, 2013, 09:47:29 PM
but how does one prove when he purchased his BTC? what if i purchased it say 2 years ago, but in 1 year i want to sell off some coins and want to claim that i bought it 1 year prior.. i'd effectively pay significantly less since the value of BTC today is $1,000 more than last year, and it'd be 15% only.
US capital gains is 20%.   plus another 3.8% if you make over 250k to pay for obamacare.   
Okay, one pays the capital gains tax.  Does one then need to also pay income tax on the money?
1735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 13, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
Let's be honest - the only reason knc are doing 20nm is to justify the ridiculous price.

I was thinking today.. I wish I'd had the spare funds a few months back to buy in when it was $100/btc.

Neptune would've cost me a grand ...

This is one reason why I enjoy the possibilities with bitcoin. Sure, the value fluctuates, but that can create some great opportunities for those already in it.

Not really, since KNC still puts the price in USD prices and still requires bitcoin. A company truly accepting bitcoin doesn't look at the USD worth at all. Trust me, weather BTC was $10 or $1000 you still would have had to pay $10k.



Uh.

10 btc purchased at $100/ea = $1,000 my cost.

1 Neptune = $10,000USD, which at the time of availability, would've been 10btc.

10 btc sent to KNC = $1,000 my cost.

What are you missing about this?

What I'm trying to say is KNC prices their gear in US dollars. Doesn't matter what the price of bitcoin is. When you go through the checkout process how ever many bitcoins it takes for that invoice to equal $10k or $13k is what you will pay. I'm being specific to how KNC does business, I understand is BTC lowers/rises and all that.


too bad bitpay isn't a little quicker on tracking up ticks of btc value, e.g. fewer btc to equal the cost.
1736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 13, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
Kaboom! http://s28.postimg.org/v71hnbm71/SAM_1801.jpg Cheesy

PSU: OCZ ZX 1250W. Found the Jupiter shut down. Tried to start it and nothing happened. Removed cables, put them back and poof fireworks. Waiting for my RMA.

Hashing with 3 boards and not whining.


Has anyone tested soy's theory about the 3.3v filter caps on the PSU being the issue causing max current to be delivered and blowing caps?  I wanted to but I have no way of measuring more than 10A without frying my mulitimeter so its not a good test.

By the by I received my RMA board back yesterday and everything works great!  I did put a 2w 18Ohm resistor on a 3.3V line just in case but who knows really.  Thanks again KnC!

I would suggest if you shut down your PSU for anything, unplug it and give it 10 minutes before starting again, just in case.  A bit of paranoia is better than straight up gambling I think.

The ramping of current on the 12v line isn't theory but said by the tech rep from the VRM manufacturer.  When one of two engineers designing a switching-servo-amplifier that I was breadboarding as a technician around 1977 designed the then novel switching scheme while our US company was a division of Kollmorgen, he having gotten his degree from Brooklyn Poly Tech,  the triangle wave which to a comparitor input would see a lowered DC voltage on the other comparitor leg (that voltage the feedback) until the top of the triangle wave was encountered at which point the output would swing from one rail to the other for the duration of the interception.  When the lower voltage (feedback) would reach the triangle wave and the output swing from say zero to full voltage, the controlled voltage would increase raising the feedback voltage level above the triangle.  Typically to maintain an output voltage at some current the comparitor would have the feedback level at some stable level intercepting the triangle wave producing a square wave with the necessary duty cycle.

The triangle wave was produced with a current source charging a capacitor then discharging the capacitor.  Voltage charging a capacitor happens at a changing rate over five time constants.  Current charging a capacitor, or current discharging a capacitor,  will result in a non-curving slope; charge/discharge will give a triangle wave, not an approximation like if you only use the first time constant but a linear charge and discharge.  

That up-ramp of current on the 12v line would follow a straight line, a non-curving slope.  That rise would be dictated by a voltage produced elsewhere by a current source charging a capacitor, that would not  be a filter capacitor.  

There would be an internal filter capacitor on the 3.3v line.

My theory is that the up ramp for the current would be perhaps between 0v and 1v produced using the 3.3v rail because the 3.3v rail would have established itself before the 5 volt rail or the 12 volt rail, and that with no load on the 3.3v rail, e.g. no motherboard in place and a jumper on the motherboard plug, the up-ramp charged capacitor might not be brought back to 0 volts but remain at 1 volt or the full current condition.



One way to disprove that element of my theory, 3.3v rail getting stable before the 5v or 12 volt rails might be shown or not by someone with a nice fast sample and hold oscilloscope and a camera.

Ah, my failing memory is showing.  I meant not sample and hold, which is a common circuit for sampling a voltage and holding it for some reason,  but a scope with memory, then triggering the sweep at startup and multiple probes measuring the voltage rise curves, see what happens when to each voltage at startup.
1737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 13, 2013, 06:33:48 PM
An interesting test might be to measure the 3.3v rail on the motherboard plug of a working miner that has a jumpered motherboard plug.  Shut down the miner/supply and watch how quickly the 3.3v rail discharges or not - use a digital meter not an old analog multimeter.
1738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 13, 2013, 06:31:34 PM
Kaboom! http://s28.postimg.org/v71hnbm71/SAM_1801.jpg Cheesy

PSU: OCZ ZX 1250W. Found the Jupiter shut down. Tried to start it and nothing happened. Removed cables, put them back and poof fireworks. Waiting for my RMA.

Hashing with 3 boards and not whining.


Has anyone tested soy's theory about the 3.3v filter caps on the PSU being the issue causing max current to be delivered and blowing caps?  I wanted to but I have no way of measuring more than 10A without frying my mulitimeter so its not a good test.

By the by I received my RMA board back yesterday and everything works great!  I did put a 2w 18Ohm resistor on a 3.3V line just in case but who knows really.  Thanks again KnC!

I would suggest if you shut down your PSU for anything, unplug it and give it 10 minutes before starting again, just in case.  A bit of paranoia is better than straight up gambling I think.

The ramping of current on the 12v line isn't theory but said by the tech rep from the VRM manufacturer.  When one of two engineers designing a switching-servo-amplifier that I was breadboarding as a technician around 1977 designed the then novel switching scheme while our US company was a division of Kollmorgen, he having gotten his degree from Brooklyn Poly Tech,  the triangle wave which to a comparitor input would see a lowered DC voltage on the other comparitor leg (that voltage the feedback) until the top of the triangle wave was encountered at which point the output would swing from one rail to the other for the duration of the interception.  When the lower voltage (feedback) would reach the triangle wave and the output swing from say zero to full voltage, the controlled voltage would increase raising the feedback voltage level above the triangle.  Typically to maintain an output voltage at some current the comparitor would have the feedback level at some stable level intercepting the triangle wave producing a square wave with the necessary duty cycle.

The triangle wave was produced with a current source charging a capacitor then discharging the capacitor.  Voltage charging a capacitor happens at a changing rate over five time constants.  Current charging a capacitor, or current discharging a capacitor,  will result in a non-curving slope; charge/discharge will give a triangle wave, not an approximation like if you only use the first time constant but a linear charge and discharge.  

That up-ramp of current on the 12v line would follow a straight line, a non-curving slope.  That rise would be dictated by a voltage produced elsewhere by a current source charging a capacitor, that would not  be a filter capacitor.  

There would be an internal filter capacitor on the 3.3v line.

My theory is that the up ramp for the current would be perhaps between 0v and 1v produced using the 3.3v rail because the 3.3v rail would have established itself before the 5 volt rail or the 12 volt rail, and that with no load on the 3.3v rail, e.g. no motherboard in place and a jumper on the motherboard plug, the up-ramp charged capacitor might not be brought back to 0 volts but remain at 1 volt or the full current condition.



One way to disprove that element of my theory, 3.3v rail getting stable before the 5v or 12 volt rails might be shown or not by someone with a nice fast sample and hold oscilloscope and a camera.

But then that would only show the test supply on hand and there are many switching supplies out there.
1739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 13, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
Kaboom! http://s28.postimg.org/v71hnbm71/SAM_1801.jpg Cheesy

PSU: OCZ ZX 1250W. Found the Jupiter shut down. Tried to start it and nothing happened. Removed cables, put them back and poof fireworks. Waiting for my RMA.

Hashing with 3 boards and not whining.


Has anyone tested soy's theory about the 3.3v filter caps on the PSU being the issue causing max current to be delivered and blowing caps?  I wanted to but I have no way of measuring more than 10A without frying my mulitimeter so its not a good test.

By the by I received my RMA board back yesterday and everything works great!  I did put a 2w 18Ohm resistor on a 3.3V line just in case but who knows really.  Thanks again KnC!

I would suggest if you shut down your PSU for anything, unplug it and give it 10 minutes before starting again, just in case.  A bit of paranoia is better than straight up gambling I think.

The ramping of current on the 12v line isn't theory but said by the tech rep from the VRM manufacturer.  When one of two engineers designing a switching-servo-amplifier that I was breadboarding as a technician around 1977 designed the then novel switching scheme while our US company was a division of Kollmorgen, he having gotten his degree from Brooklyn Poly Tech,  the triangle wave which to a comparitor input would see a lowered DC voltage on the other comparitor leg (that voltage the feedback) until the top of the triangle wave was encountered at which point the output would swing from one rail to the other for the duration of the interception.  When the lower voltage (feedback) would reach the triangle wave and the output swing from say zero to full voltage, the controlled voltage would increase raising the feedback voltage level above the triangle.  Typically to maintain an output voltage at some current the comparitor would have the feedback level at some stable level intercepting the triangle wave producing a square wave with the necessary duty cycle.

The triangle wave was produced with a current source charging a capacitor then discharging the capacitor.  Voltage charging a capacitor happens at a changing rate over five time constants.  Current charging a capacitor, or current discharging a capacitor,  will result in a non-curving slope; charge/discharge will give a triangle wave, not an approximation like if you only use the first time constant but a linear charge and discharge.  

That up-ramp of current on the 12v line would follow a straight line, a non-curving slope.  That rise would be dictated by a voltage produced elsewhere by a current source charging a capacitor, that would not  be a filter capacitor.  

There would be an internal filter capacitor on the 3.3v line.

My theory is that the up ramp for the current would be perhaps between 0v and 1v produced using the 3.3v rail because the 3.3v rail would have established itself before the 5 volt rail or the 12 volt rail, and that with no load on the 3.3v rail, e.g. no motherboard in place and a jumper on the motherboard plug, the up-ramp charged capacitor might not be brought back to 0 volts but remain at 1 volt or the full current condition.



One way to disprove that element of my theory, 3.3v rail getting stable before the 5v or 12 volt rails might be shown or not by someone with a nice fast sample and hold oscilloscope and a camera.
1740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: December 13, 2013, 06:20:59 PM
Kaboom! http://s28.postimg.org/v71hnbm71/SAM_1801.jpg Cheesy

PSU: OCZ ZX 1250W. Found the Jupiter shut down. Tried to start it and nothing happened. Removed cables, put them back and poof fireworks. Waiting for my RMA.

Hashing with 3 boards and not whining.


Has anyone tested soy's theory about the 3.3v filter caps on the PSU being the issue causing max current to be delivered and blowing caps?  I wanted to but I have no way of measuring more than 10A without frying my mulitimeter so its not a good test.

By the by I received my RMA board back yesterday and everything works great!  I did put a 2w 18Ohm resistor on a 3.3V line just in case but who knows really.  Thanks again KnC!

I would suggest if you shut down your PSU for anything, unplug it and give it 10 minutes before starting again, just in case.  A bit of paranoia is better than straight up gambling I think.

The ramping of current on the 12v line isn't theory but said by the tech rep from the VRM manufacturer.  When one of two engineers designing a switching-servo-amplifier that I was breadboarding as a technician around 1977 designed the then novel switching scheme while our US company was a division of Kollmorgen, he having gotten his degree from Brooklyn Poly Tech,  the triangle wave which to a comparitor input would see a lowered DC voltage on the other comparitor leg (that voltage the feedback) until the top of the triangle wave was encountered at which point the output would swing from one rail to the other for the duration of the interception.  When the lower voltage (feedback) would reach the triangle wave and the output swing from say zero to full voltage, the controlled voltage would increase raising the feedback voltage level above the triangle.  Typically to maintain an output voltage at some current the comparitor would have the feedback level at some stable level intercepting the triangle wave producing a square wave with the necessary duty cycle.

The triangle wave was produced with a current source charging a capacitor then discharging the capacitor.  Voltage charging a capacitor happens at a changing rate over five time constants.  Current charging a capacitor, or current discharging a capacitor,  will result in a non-curving slope; charge/discharge will give a triangle wave, not an approximation like if you only use the first time constant but a linear charge and discharge.  

That up-ramp of current on the 12v line would follow a straight line, a non-curving slope.  That rise would be dictated by a voltage produced elsewhere by a current source charging a capacitor, that would not  be a filter capacitor.  

There would be an internal filter capacitor on the 3.3v line.

My theory is that the up ramp for the current would be perhaps between 0v and 1v produced using the 3.3v rail because the 3.3v rail would have established itself before the 5 volt rail or the 12 volt rail, and that with no load on the 3.3v rail, e.g. no motherboard in place and a jumper on the motherboard plug, the up-ramp charged capacitor might not be brought back to 0 volts but remain at 1 volt or the full current condition.

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