I plan to go to the bitcoin conference in Amsterdam between the 25-29th what is the chance that KNCMINER will ship while I am gone?  //DeaDTerra Wonder if KnC will be represented at the Bitcoin conference in Atlanta Oct. 5th. |
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Late last night in the wee hours of the morning I realized KnC is using cgminer which has stratum+tcp:// |
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wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you  What the shit!? How you getting .5 a day? I'm on Slush as well with 60GH/s and only get .23 a day... Using stratum? 1. Sorry for the OT 2. Yes Will we need a stratum-mining-proxy to avoid getwork penalties on Slush with KnC machines? Would restarting the mining proxy hourly give a similar return improvement with KnC machines? I don't think this would be hijacking the thread but for those who think it might, sorry. |
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wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you What the shit!? How you getting .5 a day? I'm on Slush as well with 60GH/s and only get .23 a day... Using stratum? |
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Is there a catchy Internet phrase or abbreviation for "wild conjecture"? This thread is full of it. Lol. It's like some people have invented their own reality when it comes to their guesses in how KNC is manufacturing and bringing these miners to market.  Oh wait, I think I have it. I nominate... IRYRASMO "Who" can guess what that means? Hint, the first word of the previous sentence is a clue for where the phrase first appeared. And it was later made famous by a geeky redhead. Is that obvious enough?  |
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So, there will be PCIE-8 connectors for 12vdc to the main board but does the Beaglebone take 5vdc? Is there a 12v-5v switching down converter onboard or will the Beaglebone always require a separate 5vdc supply? I can see how one might first apply the 5vdc, login, configure the miner, then fire up the 12vdc but an onboard converter would preclude two PSUs given the device can already have been configured.
The pci connections are 6 pin, not 8Wonder if the PCI-6 connectors can take a pair of PCI-8's letting the extras overhang the ends. Just got in some PCI-8 connectors as I'm going my own way with the 12vdc power supply. I see the clips are centered and so if offset might not grasp the corresponding connector latching. |
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So, there will be PCIE-8 connectors for 12vdc to the main board but does the Beaglebone take 5vdc? Is there a 12v-5v switching down converter onboard or will the Beaglebone always require a separate 5vdc supply? I can see how one might first apply the 5vdc, login, configure the miner, then fire up the 12vdc but an onboard converter would preclude two PSUs given the device can already have been configured.
You're questioning whether an engineering team with proven designs is going to forget to put a voltage regulator in place so a daughterboard can handle lower voltages? Seriously? The question came to mind seeing the Beaglebone PSU connector. About your tone.... |
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So, there will be PCIE-8 connectors for 12vdc to the main board but does the Beaglebone take 5vdc? Is there a 12v-5v switching down converter onboard or will the Beaglebone always require a separate 5vdc supply? I can see how one might first apply the 5vdc, login, configure the miner, then fire up the 12vdc but an onboard converter would preclude two PSUs given the device can already have been configured.
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Hey Canary when is next group buy opening?
Whenever it is, expect a nice price drop. I'm hoping for Blades @ BTC3 and under.  You should wait...I doubt asicminer is going to produce the blade much longer. Their chip is falling behind the competition very quickly. They need to get in on the 28 nm game and move forward. Small companies are offering ~2.5 Gh/s USB miners now that are based on bitfury chips. They are comparable in price to the blade but draw significantly less power and are easier to set up. ASICminer needs a new chip. Unless these blades drop to 2 BTC I'm not sure they will be worth it. Right, how much of a premium for the small product w/higher energy costs? Come November when KnC will be selling Jupiters at $12.60/GH/s, a 2BTC Blade (at today's prices) would be $28.40/GH/s, or is my math wrong. But then a month and a half or two is a loooong time in the Bitcoin mining device world. Too bad BFL didn't live up to expectations. They should be selling Jalapenos off the shelf right now at prices effectively matching the Blade. |
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If it is 5PH/s then we could hit the limit of a 400% difficulty change in less than 20 days
Whatever way you look at the numbers, it's going to be an interesting few weeks... The thing I find interesting is the way the network hash rate rises then falls. The only explanation that jumps to my mind is BFL mining on it's stock and then doing a big delivery and the fall is the stock in transit. Just because I'm a conspiracy theorist doesn't mean I'm wrong I do feel sorry for all the BFL customers who haven't received their orders yet. Their ROI is going to horrific. All I can say is get a PayPal refund quick.... The BFL product line furthest along in production of pre-orders is the Jalapeno which as of yesterday was up to Feb. 14, Valentine's Day, where it's been for 5 work days. Bitcoin went for ~$20 then in Feb. and was taking off in value on its way to $254, triggering a huge increase in sales. If the BFL production rate moving by date is slow now, without some change it will move even more slowly in a big way as they get into their major pre-order sales days/months. They were stopped longer than that.. prior to Saturday, they were dead in the water for 2 weeks. Now they've stopped again. When I brought it up, they deleted my posts. When I mentioned how the BBB is investigating them, they deleted my thread. They're deleting other folks' comments about the situation also. Sounds like they're running in deep financial issues right now honestly. They're having frequent work stoppages, won't tell folks why.. they put out a massive call to preorder the Monarch which they haven't even got in the foundry yet (sounds like a cash pump doesn't it?), they had strict guidelines for GB's of the Monarch at first but recently tossed those rules to the wind (desperation). Yeah, short of either some miraculous plan which they're trying to keep under wraps until the last second (two weeks), it's likely they're headed toward the brick wall of default/bankruptcy. They've gone from sounding like a scam to visible flags of extreme financial failure. Wouldn't be the first time either, with the folks they have leading the company having been involved in previous crowd-funded failures. On the upside, I liked the aesthetics of their designs. Maybe one day I'll get one for dirt cheap on ebay when they aren't worth anything. Would be a great coffee table piece. Some posts claim they ship products to those who ask for a refund. Since they said in April 2013 that all unpaid orders were going to be canceled and paid orders jumped while at the same time they raised the price on their products, maybe they're trying to get the owners of cheaper pre-orders to demand a refund (hoping to jump the line and get their orders right away) then refund those and ship to those who paid the higher prices forestalling those cancelations. |
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If it is 5PH/s then we could hit the limit of a 400% difficulty change in less than 20 days
Whatever way you look at the numbers, it's going to be an interesting few weeks... The thing I find interesting is the way the network hash rate rises then falls. The only explanation that jumps to my mind is BFL mining on it's stock and then doing a big delivery and the fall is the stock in transit. Just because I'm a conspiracy theorist doesn't mean I'm wrong I do feel sorry for all the BFL customers who haven't received their orders yet. Their ROI is going to horrific. All I can say is get a PayPal refund quick.... The BFL product line furthest along in production of pre-orders is the Jalapeno which as of yesterday was up to Feb. 14, Valentine's Day, where it's been for 5 work days. Bitcoin went for ~$20 then in Feb. and was taking off in value on its way to $254, triggering a huge increase in sales. If the BFL production rate moving by date is slow now, without some change it will move even more slowly in a big way as they get into their major pre-order sales days/months. |
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The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays. I'm sure someone will come up with new fears now. "These folks will take the chips and run!!!" Multiple couriers and paths. Chips cannot be used anywhere else. Ransom. I think a diamond importer would have said secrecy is the key. |
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The more important bit of info from this is that, as believed by some of us here to begin with, KNC is having folks physically transport the chips during these transits, in order to bypass customs delays. I'm sure someone will come up with new fears now. "These folks will take the chips and run!!!" Not a bad idea! -> 25 wafer from a rocket lot -> about 500 working chips @ 100 GH/s per wafer -> market price today? $5 per GH/s? $6M in small box somewhere in Asia! Past seasons of Underbelly would have me worried about Aussie organized crime ripping the shipment off. |
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I just received the V2 blade today. I plugged Ethernet and 12V power just as I did for the V1 blade but I get no LED response from Blade -- just a tiny bit of heat to indicate it could be alive. Power reads fine at 12V with a multimeter. I assume the Ethernet lights should be flashing when the board is powered up (like the V1 board does). I get 'page cannot be displayed' if I goto 192.168.1.254:8000 with a browser. The installed fuse still tests fine with a multimeter too. Any ideas? NOTE: ASICminer V2 blade instructional diagram here: http://www.minersource.net/asicminer-blade/4579132096Notice the holes in the corners for the standoff posts. The two sticking out on bottom were snapped off on mine even though it was sealed in an antistatic bag (anyone else have these holes snapped off?). The broken off pieces were in the sealed bag so it presumably happened in shipment.  I bought 10 of these and almost every one of them had at least one already broken. Some had both broken. Doesn't affect mining. I don't know if it is wise to leave them free-standing on their own installed on a backplane. PS: Thanks for a great in-person buying experience and light tutorial, Canary! If they are not needed for the backplane perhaps those were for board positioning at some point in the production process and should have been removed before shipping. Yes, thanks Canary. A pleasure doing business with you. |
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I just received the V2 blade today. I plugged Ethernet and 12V power just as I did for the V1 blade but I get no LED response from Blade -- just a tiny bit of heat to indicate it could be alive. Power reads fine at 12V with a multimeter. I assume the Ethernet lights should be flashing when the board is powered up (like the V1 board does). I get 'page cannot be displayed' if I goto 192.168.1.254:8000 with a browser. The installed fuse still tests fine with a multimeter too. Any ideas? NOTE: ASICminer V2 blade instructional diagram here: http://www.minersource.net/asicminer-blade/4579132096Notice the holes in the corners for the standoff posts. The two sticking out on bottom were snapped off on mine even though it was sealed in an antistatic bag (anyone else have these holes snapped off?). The broken off pieces were in the sealed bag so it presumably happened in shipment. I bought 10 of these and almost every one of them had at least one already broken. Some had both broken. Doesn't affect mining. I don't know if it is wise to leave them free-standing on their own installed on a backplane. PS: Thanks for a great in-person buying experience and light tutorial, Canary! If they are not needed for the backplane perhaps those were for board positioning at some point in the production process and should have been removed before shipping. |
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Just to be safe, could they please burn mine in for a week or ten days before shipping?
Funniest line of the week!  I imagine BFL would say they will. |
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Just to be safe, could they please burn mine in for a week or ten days before shipping?
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7 billion is the upper limit of difficulty at a $125 price.
You wish! You seem to think hardware prices will remain steady, in reality they will drop as fast as difficulty shoots up. Cointerra preorders are already being discounted at a rate of 50% per month now, not surprisingly perfectly in tune with D doubling per month, and thats not going to stop until marginal production cost approaches mining profitability per TH. The latter is easy to calculate (I went with cointerra's specs), but the question is, how much does it cost to make more 28nm asics ? I did the math in another thread given a $5000 price tag per 28nm wafer (generous) and 2-3x cost for stuff like testing, packaging, PCBs and vendor markup, and it results in a difficulty somewhere between 100 and 200 billion at todays BTC exchange rate and with EU electricity prices. Thats a ballpark figure, it may end up being half that or double that, but not 1/15th of that, no way. I cant predict how fast we will reach those levels, it could be many years, but the only thing limiting that is the ability of all asic vendors combined to produce and ship their products. There is no other limit. Considering the amount of vendors and the fact that at least some of them will be able to manage a supply chain better than BFL, I wouldnt be too surprised to see this happen in less than two years. And when will we see 14nm ASICs? http://hothardware.com/News/Intel-Shows-14nm-Broadwell-Consuming-30-Less-Power-Than-22nm-Haswell/ |
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So, when batch #25 commences will it be linked on this thread at the same time it's posted on group buys?
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I see the emotions rising with hashrate a few posts previous. Some days ago someone supposed that the large commercial farms would die off as they have payroll added to expenses. I don't see that lowering the hashrate. They go out of business, the owners take the miners home or auction them off, either way they'll be back online hashing.
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