Current round duration: 10:13:36. Does everyone in the pool work on the same potential block or while some of us are hashing for 10 hours for .011btc others in the pool are making 0.11 in like an hour?
And what are empty blocks? Can Slush find ourselves mining an empty block? How long before it's considered too long to be crunching data, 12 hours, 18 hours? 24 hours?
you have activity of 210 on the forums and you do not understand how pool mining works............... I am actually shocked. I have more then both of you and still don't understand it %100. Pool operators really don't have a manual presented when you join up and you have to learn about hidden fees, very slow pay outs and all that stuff on your own. High post count or how old our account is does NOT determine how much we know. If we all "assumed" this, we would be be assholes. Yes, like we do a transaction and it goes into a block. Bitcoin claims no central authority but who puts the transaction into a block? There's a blockchain that takes days to download. Transactions are in blocks. All transactions back to the beginning recorded. Somewhere it's decided that the transaction just sent out goes into a block somewhere. |
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I used to mine on slush a very long time ago... Good old days. Too bad i can't cash out the remaining 1.6 mBTC  Minimum is set to 0.01. It seems a bit ridiculous that the pools don't have "empty my account" options. They probably have a lot of coin sitting there if you add up all that change from everyone on the pool. I can understand a minimum payment for regular payouts to reduce fees and network traffic. But how about if I haven't mined for a month? - maybe there should be some sort of auto monthly payout if you have been inactive for a long while.. Pool operators need to get more transparent and more vocal as there is a lot of money involved and people seem to have only partial ability to seek out help. I am sure the minimum will be increased (or decreased depending how you look at it) as the price of bitcoin increases. But I agree with your sentiments. It's not ridiculous, it's a business model allowing pool owners to earn extra BTC. I cant imagine the amount of forsaken BTC laying around there, lower or higher than 0.01. I complained also...we just get laughed in out faces. You'd think with how much bitcoin has rose we all would be making more, it is the opposite. Only the pool operators and their top tier make it all. Why do you think they put up a pool to begin with? To make money. Not all cracked up to what it's supposed to be when too much greed gets involved. Wonder if any pools have been pressured to "buy insurance". You gonna pay me every day or you gonna haf problems. Yea! a minute into looking for a new block. |
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okay, everyone on the pool works the same block, infact everyone around the world is trying to mine the same block, until it is found. What you are seeing is the fact slush's pool has not found a block in about 10hrs, thus the current round duration is high. edit: whats a CP2102 When you say everyone around the world is trying to mine the same block, until it is found, I have to assume you mean everyone in the world in this pool rather than all pools working the same block. Current round duration: 12:02:54 Sorry TL;DR the rest, No EVERYONE is trying to find the block, the finder gets the block, then everyone starts trying to find the next block. when i say everyone i mean everyone. slush has not found a block in 12hours. roughly every 7-10mins a block is found, so this means every 7-10mins EVERYONE starts working trying to find a new block. What's a block? (edit: I note this was on my Slush profile page for some days before noticing it. You'all welcome. Found blocks 265105 ) |
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okay, everyone on the pool works the same block, infact everyone around the world is trying to mine the same block, until it is found. What you are seeing is the fact slush's pool has not found a block in about 10hrs, thus the current round duration is high. edit: whats a CP2102 A CP2102 is the USB communication IC on a USB Block Erupter. It's also used by other manufacturers on various electronics. It can have a high failure rate I think but that may be the skill of the smt machine programmer/operator or lack of. Replacing manually is very difficult. 11 hours 50 minutes now. I had assumed a block was an encryption of some bitcoin transactions and its equation produces a result with a leading string of zeros; and that mining was recalculating the block looking for a more elegant solution, a more elegant solution indicated by an increase in the number of leading zeros in the result. When you say everyone around the world is trying to mine the same block, until it is found, I have to assume you mean everyone in the world in this pool rather than all pools working the same block. I recall earlier this year there was a string of "empty blocks". So I assume an "empty block" is block with no transactions but having a result. I wonder how an "empty block" can be mined. Does it potentially have a solution that will get paid the 25BTC? It obviously won't have any transaction fees. So, if I'm not incorrect, even an empty block can have a more elegant solution. And when a more elegant solution is produced it's called finding a block. I saw that blockchain.info pie chart of pools working the blockchain. That large Unknown percentage, I recall a global Chinese gambling syndicate got into mining and had on order a great many miners a few months ago. If any pool is going to find a way to game the system, it would be it. Current round duration: 12:02:54 |
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Current round duration: 10:13:36. Does everyone in the pool work on the same potential block or while some of us are hashing for 10 hours for .011btc others in the pool are making 0.11 in like an hour?
And what are empty blocks? Can Slush find ourselves mining an empty block? How long before it's considered too long to be crunching data, 12 hours, 18 hours? 24 hours?
you have activity of 210 on the forums and you do not understand how pool mining works............... I am actually shocked. Yes, I'm actually more into the machinery. I don't know how mining works but I can change a CP2102 successfully. |
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i guess this question was already asked but i couldnt find an answer.
on the configurable options page, what do i have to put in the signature field to save my settings? (using an address from blockchain.info)
As far as I know you need Bitcoin-QT running on a machine owning the payout address. In Bitcoin-QT go to File menu and the Sign Message option. Top line put the receive address. Body put the line from the options page describing the changes. Then click Sign Message and a long string will appear in the Signature field. Check its accuracy by going to Verify Message where you input all the same data and click Verify. If it checks you put that Signature in the space on the configurable options page and mash submit. |
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Current round duration: 10:13:36. Does everyone in the pool work on the same potential block or while some of us are hashing for 10 hours for .011btc others in the pool are making 0.11 in like an hour?
And what are empty blocks? Can Slush find ourselves mining an empty block? How long before it's considered too long to be crunching data, 12 hours, 18 hours? 24 hours?
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Now this is new. cgminer is reporting ~2Mh/s on avg but the 5s is normal and pool speed is normal. This is with 0.99, but everything was fine from yesterday until i had to shut the miner off. It started normal, but after 30 mins i got this 2Mh/s. I don't care so much about cgminer as long as it's hashing, but this is interesting.
The beaglebone does not have a battery backed up clock in it. That means when you first start it, the clock is set to the year 2000. Then it does a time update from an ntp server and knows what the real time is, and cgminer thinks you've been hashing for almost 14 years... And no tzconfig. Time zone setting seems non-existent but I don't know much about Angstrom Linux. |
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Just figured I would report my results with the .99 firmware. It's been running stable since yesterday when I upgraded.
My mercury was running .96 prior, ~141GH most of the time.
With .99 it's been averaging ~155GH with dips into the high 140's.
Awesome work KNCMiner, thanks! I wonder if I will see 175 or 200 in the future? Lol
Where do you take these speeds from? Can you post a screenshot please. Thank you. May I ask your WU's? |
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My el cheapo 12v switching supply is reading 184 watts at the wall while bertmod says 133watts. If we ignore the BBB, I suspect bertmod does, the efficiency is 72.3%. If I scale up for a Jupiter it's 736 watts at the wall.
I confirm BertMod ignores the BBB and also that the readings from the DC/DCs might be a few percent off (I'm not sure if the readings are temperature compensated, and the DC/DCs usually run quite hot, so there might be some error induced by that) 72% efficiency for a cheap power supply sounds totally possible. I notice my temps are green, 37.5°C while others' are red. My ambient is 66°F. I built a wind tunnel and put cardboard inserts between the VRMs and the ASIC. Don't know where on the module the temp sensor is. Mixing imperial and metric measurements is confusing and just complicates things. Sez a metric user. I have my Garmin GPS sports watch set for kilometers but record miles in my log. |
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My el cheapo 12v switching supply is reading 184 watts at the wall while bertmod says 133watts. If we ignore the BBB, I suspect bertmod does, the efficiency is 72.3%. If I scale up for a Jupiter it's 736 watts at the wall.
I confirm BertMod ignores the BBB and also that the readings from the DC/DCs might be a few percent off (I'm not sure if the readings are temperature compensated, and the DC/DCs usually run quite hot, so there might be some error induced by that) 72% efficiency for a cheap power supply sounds totally possible. I notice my temps are green, 37.5°C while others' are red. My ambient is 66°F. I built a wind tunnel and put cardboard inserts between the VRMs and the ASIC. Don't know where on the module the temp sensor is. |
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Jupiter FW 0.99
Power at Wall Down from 748W to 746W
You're hitting 750w? Bizarre, I'm @ 690w with 98.1 You probably have a more efficient power supply. Could also be 240VAC. It tends to be ~2% more efficient. Would be nice when people post at the wall wattage to post the PSU and Voltage (i.e. 700W X-1250 @ 120VAC). Mercury, 184 watts at the wall 120VAC, 133 watts bertmod, supply: CH Switching Power Model LIHUA-360W DC OUTPUT 12V 30A (typically used for driving LED signs) plus a BBB wall wart, both to a power strip plugged into the Kill-a-Watt. (note: supply fan not tolerating temperature change, noisy when cold startup, bearings wearing quickly) |
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Jupiter FW 0.99
Power at Wall Down from 748W to 746W
You're hitting 750w? Bizarre, I'm @ 690w with 98.1 You probably have a more efficient power supply. My el cheapo 12v switching supply is reading 184 watts at the wall while bertmod says 133watts. If we ignore the BBB, I suspect bertmod does, the efficiency is 72.3%. If I scale up for a Jupiter it's 736 watts at the wall. |
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Yes, the 0.96 works and has the current: Mining Status CGMiner Status Running (pid=1702) Last Checked Fri Nov 15 22:02:18 UTC 2013 Avg. Hash Rate 142 Gh/s Difficulty Accepted 511,742 Difficulty Rejected 2,589 (0.5 %) Hardware Errors 4,642 (0.9 %) WU 1,980 Difficulty Stale 0 Network Blocks 33 Pool Rejected 0.5 % Pool Stale 0 Best Share 1,996,744 Found Blocks 0 HW Status ASIC slot #1 - ASIC slot #2 - ASIC slot #3 - ASIC slot #4 - ASIC slot #5 37.5 ℃ ASIC slot #6 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASIC Board Status Update ASIC Status Last updated on Fri Nov 15 22:02:18 2013 ASIC Board Info 4 Temperature sensor: 37.5 C Die ID Cores ON Cores OFF % 0 48 0 100 1 48 0 100 2 48 0 100 3 48 0 100 DC/DC ID ON/OFF Status Input Voltage Output Voltage Output Current 0 ON OK 11.7 V 0.777 V 42.2 A (32.8 W) 1 No DC/DC detected 2 ON OK 11.8 V 0.794 V 41.3 A (32.8 W) 3 No DC/DC detected 4 ON OK 11.7 V 0.787 V 42.8 A (33.7 W) 5 No DC/DC detected 6 No DC/DC detected 7 ON OK 11.6 V 0.8 V 43.1 A (34.5 W) Total DC/DC power output: 133 W |
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Yes, I have this installed: 0_3_for_knc_0_98.bin Mining Status CGMiner Status Running (pid=1702) Last Checked Fri Nov 15 21:55:56 UTC 2013 Avg. Hash Rate 142 Gh/s WU 1979 Difficulty Accepted 497466 HW Status ASIC slot #1 - ASIC slot #2 - ASIC slot #3 - ASIC slot #4 - ASIC slot #5 37.5 ℃ ASIC slot #6 - STATUS=S When=1384552556 Code=11 Msg=Summary Description=cgminer 3.6.6|SUMMARY Elapsed=15207 MHS av=142588.29 MHS 5s=139802.09 Found Blocks=0 Getworks=787 Accepted=7663 Rejected=65 Hardware Errors=4540 Utility=30.23 Discarded=1022 Stale=21 Get Failures=1 Local Work=527584 Remote Failures=0 Network Blocks=33 Total MH=2168374368.9267 Work Utility=1979.85 Difficulty Accepted=497466.00000000 Difficulty Rejected=2589.00000000 Difficulty Stale=0.00000000 Best Share=1996744 Device Hardware%=0.8966 Device Rejected%=0.5159 Pool Rejected%=0.5177 Pool Stale%=0.0000| |
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So the biggest outstanding issue, as far as I can see, if the die0 issues. It is for me. Partially addressed in 98.1, but still far from a satisfactory solution.
11 days after the last firmware release, knc release a new firmware today that does nothing to address the biggest outstanding issue - die0 problems.
Is this it then knc? Run out of ideas? You aren't going to bother with a fix for the die0 issues for customers? Too busy making money on new orders and fire-sale of ex-RMA boards to take care of current customers?
Then you need to make an announcement saying that. With a promise that anyone who RMA's bad die0 boards will get a new 140GH+ replacement - no quibbles. And stop this BS criminal practice of sending back faulty boards if they can jointly hash over 450GH, which is what you seem to be doing. This is only fair, considering how much most people with die0 issues have lost now.
Who the fuck paid for faulty boards? I didn't, but that's what I got. Where is my solution?? Where is the firmware that addresses the biggest outstanding issue your customers have knc?
Get one of your shills representatives over to this forum to address customer concerns and start coming up with solutions for people who gave you the money to exist.
i know im wasting my energy but he's right. i have tried everything, and still suffer dead die0 issue! i was resigned to waiting upon the 'tuning suite' until 0.99 was unceremoniously served up, tl;dr - meh (still) What version bertmod are you using to get die info. Since I left 0.94 for higher firmware I don't get die readings with bertmod. |
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why the hell choose any brand for a psu, any good psu will do
i personally buy anything with good stats corsair, ocz, antec you just need to check how the psu is build and how much they actually can deliver on the lanes they have
I have my small antec quattro here which delivers 6 rails with each capable of feeding 30 amp max and 170 max on the 3.3=5 volts rail.
This psu has one major drawback however because it has no power on/off switch.
But in general this monster has no had no problem feeding my 4 gpu system at all.
It got a robot psu switch and i am very happy with that solution
My question is what is going to happen with the upgrade modules are they now also on hold
And what does this it mean for the delivery of the upgrade modules effectively
As i read that it seems the building of the november orders miners seem to go first and as i understood it the upgrade modules are being send when the orders are finished on the miners.
Would that mean another month of waiting or ?
I have posted alot of questions towards knc but the time it takes to get an answer is insane long, i think the communication towards the community has to pick up some pace.
Its easy for them to prevent many emails and phone calls if they communicate onto the forums.
but as of yet on non of the actual communcations i see any of the knc people actually post at all besides the initial posts from sam cole.
Its so simple to add some information when you are going to sell a product, so people do not NEED to ask whats included
I do not wanna see a post from some forum member and to be honest alot of them are on my ignore list.
I want to see relevant information which make us clear what is going on.
Everytime they post something instant many questions pop up which should not be needed if the info was more clear towards us customers.
Again this is not a rant but a real concern, knc would have less a problem with people calling and sending emails if the info was not all the time in crypto language.
I took almost 3 weeks to get an answer from knc and what was said as a answer was not even an answer at all on my questions
Mark my words....... a six rail psu will not work! Use single rail only! Guessing but you might have to find a way to tie the grounds together if it doesn't work out of the box. I was surprised when I found that the 12v and ground was not common with the 12v and ground on the controller/BBB even tho there is the ribbon cable. That's within the machine. I had tried just bringing 12v from the module power to the 4 pin molex along with 5v and ground from a BBB wall wart - you see the assumption the ground as common via the ribbon. Sure wasn't. Now if your supply has separate grounds for the separate rails you could find the module not communicating as it doesn't have common ground. |
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Cheers bro, but so you know they're on top of shiz i will post a pic of what i.m currently surrounded by in two secs.   WELL DONE SIR!!! We can still complain, but as a former BFL customer, you guys are still at the top of my list! I wish you a restful weekend!!!  My hair 45 years ago. Correction, 40 years ago. I suspect he would test in the top percentile for sonar skills, hearing acuity.
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Addresses have always been considered single-time-use since Satoshi released the whitepaper. While the community has tolerated reuse for things like donation addresses due to lack of convenient alternatives, it looks like the time is here early that this needs to stop. I had hoped to defer anything in this area until wide deployment of the payment protocol (which should make such things unnecessary), but our hands1 are perhaps2 being forced3 to act sooner4. I am hereby announcing the first release of a the first patch for miners to filter address reuse: unique_spk_mempool for bitcoind 0.8.5For now, since this is still somewhat common, this just deprioritises it to one reuse per block. If I have time, I plan to write patches to be more and less aggressive that miners can choose between (or maybe others will beat me to it!). If you want to support this move, encourage your favourite mining pool to adopt this or a similar policy change, or use a decentralised pool that lets you apply it yourself. In collaboration with wizkid057, the Eligius mining pool (15% of total network hashing) is now the first to deploy this change on an experimental basis. This would seem to be an objection to whitelisting addresses. Read of that recently. Mellon, of the banking industry I think it was. Wants to whitelist addresses that don't want silkroad besmerchment. Except for making oneself banking industry targetable by them having one's identity it seems like a good idea. I'd ignore it rather than work against it. |
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@ anyone w/jupiter - what are you using for the 4th module with your V850s?
mine came with 3 'twin' connectors, so im using one connector 'twice' and it is HOT!
Twin molex to PCI-E is one solution. Or I read that you can use one of the CPU slots to plug an additional PCI-E cable there (if you have any), but do your own research for that as I cannot be held responsible for any damages. Btw if you send an email to Cooler Master to request additional PCI-E cables they will be happy to send you some. I'm currently waiting 7 to arrive:  Bless you, I'll email them immediately. i saw the 2 molex - pci-e option in 2011 but not comfortable trying it on the jupiter was curious what others are using - the twin method works but less than ideal, especially with an empty pci-e slot right thurr what are you using to power ur extras, a second psu? I would not use PCI-E to molex adaptors for a jupiter. those were designed with the 75W PCI-E limit in mind, and a single jupiter ASIC draws far more than 75w Agreed, just use the 8-pin CPU connector, just upside down  I use these: NEW PCI-E 6 PIN DAISY CONNECTOR ---6"+18", ebay# 251063236572. Has two of the needed gender and one of the other. Plug one into the other gender making a loop then cut at bottom of loop. Double wires to a single 6 pin PCI-E connector. I wire to a 12 volt supply. |
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