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2481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 30, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
I've been watching XMR price closely for more than a year now.

Someone is selling aggressively XMR (profoundly a whale) to break the price and buy back lower. Unless it is a hacker/thief who had laundered the BTC to XMR and now does the opposite (I don't think this is the case because the selling is aggressive but very careful, done from a serious trader).

I hope he does not use leverage  Roll Eyes

I've been observing this as well. He/she/it also has a pretty sophisticated bot, that constantly places random asks etc. In addition, he nearly always places a group of small asks (mostly something like 150-250-300) near the price and some bigger random asks (1-4k) a bit further away. His "manipulation" is quite salient. This behavior started after that massive (shortsale) dump until 0.0013, when basically all the loan offers were taken out (not immediately by the way). I've also seen this bot in a sort of reverse mode, but it mainly supresses the prices currently (like Klee pointed out).

I don't think its anything more complicated than some whale has a boatload of xmr and they want to cashout to fiat. Currently the only process is to go from xmr -> btc -> fiat, because at he/she/its level of holdings, an OTC trade probably wouldn't be wise ("oh yeah here's my 10k USD paypal transaction doop dee doo"). The value of all cryptocurrencies are linked to btc value, so this could be someone just seizing the opportunity to cash out of cryptocurrency while the gettings good. To do so at maximum value requires using a bot due to the liquidity of xmr. I'd say this is backed by the fact that this action has been going on since btc started its multimonth rise.
I think not, he is too aggressive to suppress the price when it tries to bounce.

Agree with Klee here. Also, if he wanted the best price he wouldn't push it this aggressively. He would cash out in a more elegant manner. Also, I think he is not only running a bot, but also occasionally market dumping like Klee pointed out before.
Huge news for ETH - http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/10/28/bitbeat-microsoft-to-offer-ethereum-based-services-on-azure/

Maybe they were dumping to get in ETH!

Yeah just read that, could be, but the fact that he still uses a lot of XMR to supress tells me this isn't very likely. Also, the ETH rise already started a few days ago, so probably a few insiders buying already.

Seems like he is using even more rigorous measures now...
2482  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: October 30, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
Closing half of longs. Bubble indicator says rally out of fuel (however could continue for some time).

On bitfinex someone opened ~7k in shorts (see -> https://bfxdata.com/swaphistory/btc) between 17:30 & 18:30 (UTC+1). This could very well fuel a breakout. Furthermore, it's kind of a risky strategy since the market is, although overbought, pretty resilient in my opinion.

According to bfxdata, those ~7k in shorts are not closed yet.
2483  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: October 29, 2015, 06:50:30 PM
Closing half of longs. Bubble indicator says rally out of fuel (however could continue for some time).

On bitfinex someone opened ~7k in shorts (see -> https://bfxdata.com/swaphistory/btc) between 17:30 & 18:30 (UTC+1). This could very well fuel a breakout. Furthermore, it's kind of a risky strategy since the market is, although overbought, pretty resilient in my opinion.
2484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 29, 2015, 06:35:25 PM
I am lamenting the emission cut did not pass a year ago. Currently we just get loads and loads of cheap XMR on top of what we have, and when the value is realized in the wider audience, it feels almost as bad as a premine, with great concentrations of coin in the hands of people who already were rich and smart and forward-looking.

The intention is not to punish from such qualities, but now the reward is so excessive it makes me blush  Embarrassed

"Equal opportunity" loses some of its allure when nobody is using it (and then complain afterwards, same as with BTC)

I beg to disagree here. People overestimate how high the emission rate actually is. Furthermore, changing the emission rate would have broken the social contract and would probably look way more sketchy from the outside than the fast emission rate. I also agree with wachtwoord on this matter.
2485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 08:25:58 PM
not a long time ago i had some opinions here about xmr going up by some users after about follow what we have today.
based on that i decided to sell at this point by my feeling and i got win as i get more that i would get if sell now.

this is just for the history...

my point and my question is if anyone knows if and when will have graphical interface?


Don't really understand your first part, but I answered the 2nd part yesterday. See -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg12803075#msg12803075
2486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 08:20:06 PM
I've been watching XMR price closely for more than a year now.

Someone is selling aggressively XMR (profoundly a whale) to break the price and buy back lower. Unless it is a hacker/thief who had laundered the BTC to XMR and now does the opposite (I don't think this is the case because the selling is aggressive but very careful, done from a serious trader).

I hope he does not use leverage  Roll Eyes

I've been observing this as well. He/she/it also has a pretty sophisticated bot, that constantly places random asks etc. In addition, he nearly always places a group of small asks (mostly something like 150-250-300) near the price and some bigger random asks (1-4k) a bit further away. His "manipulation" is quite salient. This behavior started after that massive (shortsale) dump until 0.0013, when basically all the loan offers were taken out (not immediately by the way). I've also seen this bot in a sort of reverse mode, but it mainly supresses the prices currently (like Klee pointed out).

I don't think its anything more complicated than some whale has a boatload of xmr and they want to cashout to fiat. Currently the only process is to go from xmr -> btc -> fiat, because at he/she/its level of holdings, an OTC trade probably wouldn't be wise ("oh yeah here's my 10k USD paypal transaction doop dee doo"). The value of all cryptocurrencies are linked to btc value, so this could be someone just seizing the opportunity to cash out of cryptocurrency while the gettings good. To do so at maximum value requires using a bot due to the liquidity of xmr. I'd say this is backed by the fact that this action has been going on since btc started its multimonth rise.
I think not, he is too aggressive to suppress the price when it tries to bounce.

Agree with Klee here. Also, if he wanted the best price he wouldn't push it this aggressively. He would cash out in a more elegant manner. Also, I think he is not only running a bot, but also occasionally market dumping like Klee pointed out before.
Huge news for ETH - http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/10/28/bitbeat-microsoft-to-offer-ethereum-based-services-on-azure/

Maybe they were dumping to get in ETH!

Yeah just read that, could be, but the fact that he still uses a lot of XMR to supress tells me this isn't very likely. Also, the ETH rise already started a few days ago, so probably a few insiders buying already.
2487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
I've been watching XMR price closely for more than a year now.

Someone is selling aggressively XMR (profoundly a whale) to break the price and buy back lower. Unless it is a hacker/thief who had laundered the BTC to XMR and now does the opposite (I don't think this is the case because the selling is aggressive but very careful, done from a serious trader).

I hope he does not use leverage  Roll Eyes

I've been observing this as well. He/she/it also has a pretty sophisticated bot, that constantly places random asks etc. In addition, he nearly always places a group of small asks (mostly something like 150-250-300) near the price and some bigger random asks (1-4k) a bit further away. His "manipulation" is quite salient. This behavior started after that massive (shortsale) dump until 0.0013, when basically all the loan offers were taken out (not immediately by the way). I've also seen this bot in a sort of reverse mode, but it mainly supresses the prices currently (like Klee pointed out).

I don't think its anything more complicated than some whale has a boatload of xmr and they want to cashout to fiat. Currently the only process is to go from xmr -> btc -> fiat, because at he/she/its level of holdings, an OTC trade probably wouldn't be wise ("oh yeah here's my 10k USD paypal transaction doop dee doo"). The value of all cryptocurrencies are linked to btc value, so this could be someone just seizing the opportunity to cash out of cryptocurrency while the gettings good. To do so at maximum value requires using a bot due to the liquidity of xmr. I'd say this is backed by the fact that this action has been going on since btc started its multimonth rise.
I think not, he is too aggressive to suppress the price when it tries to bounce.

Agree with Klee here. Also, if he wanted the best price he wouldn't push it this aggressively. He would cash out in a more elegant manner. Also, I think he is not only running a bot, but also occasionally market dumping like Klee pointed out before.
2488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 06:38:00 PM
It seems that people cry for a user friendly GUI wallet. Let 0.9 version be out first. Then I may spend time creating a new one which is based on NodeJS or Python

I would be equally happy if I could use tab-complition and up-arrow (to get recently used commands) in the smartwallet or bitmonred.

yeah that is one thing I wish could be implemented as well. I'm always hitting up-arrow and having to delete what is typed.

In Linux you can use the arrows function.
I am waiting very angeous for the 0.9 and official GUI release.
One question. How can I integrate the old wallets from 0.8.8.6 to fully encrypted in 0.9?


Monermoo or someone of the devs?


Someone else asked something similiar in the main topic:

The design is already done, see following link for some sneak peaks -> http://imgur.com/a/ERheR

So basically only libraryzing has to be done in order to wire up and release the GUI. The design goals can give you a bit of a skewed view, because a lot of stuff is in front of the GUI on the list. However, most of that stuff doesn't necessarily need to be finished before the GUI can be released.

P.S. More about "libraryzing" -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3ltrxt/its_happening_stepbystep_every_month_since_i/cv9hix0

Out of curiosity, a technical question; would it be easy to migrate to the new version with/without GUI? You've mentioned earlier that a beta is already floating around but never got the chance to run it myself successfully (MoneroX GUI client crashed on me). I thought starting it from scratch with a new wallet and transfer the funds there, but I just dropped it since it's now working just fine... Would you recommend a migration or a brand new wallet/database?

Your wallet can probably be directly transferred over (but I never used the GUIs). I think you can just download the new binaries and run bitmonerod until it's synced up, and copy the wallet files to wherever you want to run the new simplewallet from. Syncing on the new version is often nearly as fast as converting the existing chain and usually less headache.

If for some reason your wallet can't be transferred over, you should be able to recreate it from its seed with the new simplewallet.


The beta works well for me.  Its super fast synching and uses very little ram, as little as 100mb I believe. 

My working set is presently ~475 MB, but Private is only 42,400 KB (the number that shows up in Task Manager).

@Hueristic, that doesn't work. Tried that already before you posted it :-P
2489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 06:19:40 PM
...

Yeah and it probably also has the best liquidity. If I recall correctly, they have some guide on their site that explains it all. Basically, with shorting you borrow BTC from someone on the site for a certain interest rate. Subsequently, you sell them and if the price declines you buy them back to realize your profit.

Do you have a referral number?

...
I also think BTC is due for a correction but you can never be 100% sure. Shorting is dangerous. If your only goal is to buy more XMR why not just buy more XMR now instead of shorting BTC?

I'm a gambler, If I short and win and XMR prices stay sideways (I think that likely during my shorting period) then I get MOAR XMR!!!!

Mohahahahaha. Cheesy

Actually I would get alot more if I didn't get sucked out on in a couple 1500 dollar pots last week and just bought instead. @$!$##!@

I looked through my account, but can't find a referral link anywhere :-P
2490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
...

Bitfinex is probably the easiest way, although it could take a few days before your USD arrives. Alternatively, you could buy BTC on coinbase, send them to Bitfinex and immediately sell them for USD. Do you need any further help wrt shorting?

Bitfinex is the quickest? Thanks I'm setting an account now. AFA shorting, ?I've never done it before. I just buy when I think something is under priced but I'm 100% convince this is a BTC bubble which means I can get more XMR when it tanks back to 210 or so.

...

You can buy BTC on Coinbase with your credit card and then transfer the BTC to Bitfinex and margin sell. It shouldn't be too difficult.

Good luck.

Yeah I wouldn't give coinbase my CC info for some reason. I think it had to do with the data collection shit.

Yeah and it probably also has the best liquidity. If I recall correctly, they have some guide on their site that explains it all. Basically, with shorting you borrow BTC from someone on the site for a certain interest rate. Subsequently, you sell them and if the price declines you buy them back to realize your profit.
2491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
I've been watching XMR price closely for more than a year now.

Someone is selling aggressively XMR (profoundly a whale) to break the price and buy back lower. Unless it is a hacker/thief who had laundered the BTC to XMR and now does the opposite (I don't think this is the case because the selling is aggressive but very careful, done from a serious trader).

I hope he does not use leverage  Roll Eyes

I've been observing this as well. He/she/it also has a pretty sophisticated bot, that constantly places random asks etc. In addition, he nearly always places a group of small asks (mostly something like 150-250-300) near the price and some bigger random asks (1-4k) a bit further away. His "manipulation" is quite salient. This behavior started after that massive (shortsale) dump until 0.0013, when basically all the loan offers were taken out (not immediately by the way). I've also seen this bot in a sort of reverse mode, but it mainly supresses the prices currently (like Klee pointed out).
2492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 05:35:43 PM
Hey guys, I want to short BTC but only have a coinbase account. Where can I do this with USD and a creditcard or paypal?

I've found this so far.

http://mpex.co/

https://orderbook.net/trade

https://www.bitfinex.com/

I'm not sure how long it will take to setup and whatnot. I'd like to short for a week to a month.

Thx for the help.

Bitfinex is probably the easiest way, although it could take a few days before your USD arrives. Alternatively, you could buy BTC on coinbase, send them to Bitfinex and immediately sell them for USD. Do you need any further help wrt shorting?
2493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 28, 2015, 04:08:24 PM

how so?

they are just a shop which allows you to buy something...

Go into your local bank and ask to transfer X to someone's IBAN account. You'll first have to open an account (KYC), then show an invoice. 
You can't just transfer money between private accounts.

Thatīs not true, of course you can transfer money between SEPA accounts as you like at any volume.
A SEPA account is KYC compliant  Grin Wink

SEPA works just like any other account, the only difference is that it is (almost) instant and (almost) free of charge. ALL BANKING LAWS STILL APPLY.
I'm out.


I haven't read into the details, but most at most Dutch exchanges (e.g. litebit.eu) you have to verify your bank account first by some KYC measure.
2494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 28, 2015, 12:53:37 PM
I have bought more. Go Monero! Smiley
Lets tear down this little ask wall.
I think it won't be easy.

You underestimated! It's gone now :-P
2495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 28, 2015, 12:49:56 PM
This new service stinks of a scam.

I don't think : Litebit.eu is good and safe for long time, and Litepaid is a good webshops plugin altcoins payment system.

Yeah, it's pretty renowned and certainly trustworthy. Dutch legislation is pretty lenient on cryptocurrencies, that's probably why they made it possible.
2496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 27, 2015, 10:49:03 PM
As much as you want, you cant deny benefits of DASH over bitcoin.
The argument that it was instant mine is stupid. So what? Why should I even care?
All I care is the development and progress which is lighting fast!
Bitcoin was solo mined for how long? How many coins does Satoshi has?  


You are not answering the question! What is the difference from Bitcoin being solomined and DASH instamined?
How many coins does Satoshi has?
Does bitcoin price not fluctuate?
Is there no developement? Is it all fake? Is DASH not inovative coin?
The only argument you say is INSTAMINE so what?
Again. Whats the difference from bitcoin being solomined and DASH instamined?

What is the difference from Bitcoin being solo mined and dash instamined? You dont even know who is Satoshi!
Here is the birth of DASH https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/  nothing hidden, all transparent.


What is the difference from Bitcoin being solo mined and dash instamined? You dont even know who is Satoshi!
Here is the birth of DASH https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/  nothing hidden, all transparent.

Your kind of wrong with your first sentence, because Satoshi wasn't the only miner on the network. See the following post of smooth:

BTC was solomined

BTC was never solomined. There are well known people who mined at or near the very beginning who showed up later with a large amount of coins, plus a number of well known people whose coin holdings are less well known but clearly were also mining. Since there were no exchanges and little to no trading, mining would have been the only way to get them. Those are only the well-known ones, too. There were certainly other unkown people mining who were just more private about it ever since. As you said, satoshi is reported to have mined a million coins, but 2.5 million were mined in the first year, so clearly other people were mining too.

LTC was instamined, but as I said only about 1% of the current supply. If you are trying to argue that is in any way similar to a 33% instamine you are either being dishonest or are just very confused. I'm not sure which.



yes. mr good cop. evan was not solo mining as well. but the tiny group initially mining btc is to be respected (remenber no one in the world knew what the heck is a cryptocurrency at that whole period), while the proportionally bigger group mining dash is not to be taken into consideration (remember, dash was previoulsly announced here... a place full of miners)

so, distribution is unfair because of instamine? is btc distribution any better, with huge miners domiating the network, and the huge price?

the distribution and the instamine talk is pure false moralistic pseudo communist bullshit. and if you defend this shit YOU are a troll, good cop, bad cop, it makes no difference.

bye

Kind of ironic you took the time to make a new account and post this. Anyway, did I say anything about the instamine? Reread my post please and tell me if I did. I was simply refuting AlexGR statement that Satoshi was solomining. Nothing more, nothing less.
2497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 27, 2015, 09:10:01 PM
As much as you want, you cant deny benefits of DASH over bitcoin.
The argument that it was instant mine is stupid. So what? Why should I even care?
All I care is the development and progress which is lighting fast!
Bitcoin was solo mined for how long? How many coins does Satoshi has?  


You are not answering the question! What is the difference from Bitcoin being solomined and DASH instamined?
How many coins does Satoshi has?
Does bitcoin price not fluctuate?
Is there no developement? Is it all fake? Is DASH not inovative coin?
The only argument you say is INSTAMINE so what?
Again. Whats the difference from bitcoin being solomined and DASH instamined?

What is the difference from Bitcoin being solo mined and dash instamined? You dont even know who is Satoshi!
Here is the birth of DASH https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/  nothing hidden, all transparent.


What is the difference from Bitcoin being solo mined and dash instamined? You dont even know who is Satoshi!
Here is the birth of DASH https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/  nothing hidden, all transparent.

Your kind of wrong with your first sentence, because Satoshi wasn't the only miner on the network. See the following post of smooth:

BTC was solomined

BTC was never solomined. There are well known people who mined at or near the very beginning who showed up later with a large amount of coins, plus a number of well known people whose coin holdings are less well known but clearly were also mining. Since there were no exchanges and little to no trading, mining would have been the only way to get them. Those are only the well-known ones, too. There were certainly other unkown people mining who were just more private about it ever since. As you said, satoshi is reported to have mined a million coins, but 2.5 million were mined in the first year, so clearly other people were mining too.

LTC was instamined, but as I said only about 1% of the current supply. If you are trying to argue that is in any way similar to a 33% instamine you are either being dishonest or are just very confused. I'm not sure which.

2498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 27, 2015, 06:43:53 PM
I guess if BTC rallies hard (probably it will go at least 335) and IF XMR rallies along then those who buy now will be rewarded big for their patience...

Is there any interest from whales for XMR. The volume has been low for some time. XMR is similar to other altcoins in terms of volume now. It used to be the largest in Poloniex.

Letīs wait and see...
Get a cup of tea and wait. We are all waiting for the official 0.9 and GUI release  Grin

Seems like the GUI might possibly be 2017. There's a lot of stuff that's planned before the GUI.

lulz. You tryin to buy CHEAP COINZZ!?11!!!

i speculate that once 0.9 comes out some whizbang random developer will make a whizbang GUI.

There are already GUIs. I'm talking about the official version, mind you.

Going to quote myself here again:

Quote
GUI will probably be released after libraryzing is done (devs are currently working on it, see design goals -> https://getmonero.org/design-goals/), without libraryzing it makes no sense to "wire up" the GUI.

The design is already done, see following link for some sneak peaks -> http://imgur.com/a/ERheR

So basically only libraryzing has to be done in order to wire up and release the GUI. The design goals can give you a bit of a skewed view, because a lot of stuff is in front of the GUI on the list. However, most of that stuff doesn't necessarily need to be finished before the GUI can be released.

P.S. More about "libraryzing" -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3ltrxt/its_happening_stepbystep_every_month_since_i/cv9hix0
2499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 27, 2015, 06:39:04 PM
Please XMR community/devs - don't let these changes turn XMR into a pozni!

Could you elaborate? The only thing that is being changed is the blocktime, everything else stays the same. Thus, the blockreward will effectively be the same, only instead of being rewarded every minute, it will now be rewarded every 2 minutes (the blockreward will be adjusted for that). Also, the perpetual inflation has been known from the start since it was posted in the ANN.
2500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Dash a better alternative to Bitcoin? on: October 27, 2015, 09:44:07 AM
If Dash's sugar daddy/life support system decides to move on to other investments, Dash's goose is cooked.

Seems like TrueCryptonaire was Monero's life support as when he stopped buying a month ago the price has dropped 50% so far. The last bigger fool I suppose.

Just is just plain nonsense, all alts got hammered during the BTC runup. TrueCryptonaire also did more bad than good with his obnoxious expressions, and his blatant pumping (when he bought) and beartalking (when he dumped) in the speculation thread.
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