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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 21, 2018, 11:17:53 PM
The masternode owners reacted immediatly, and voted against TaoOfHitler.
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/tao-community-lead

icey, I wasn't aware of this proposal. I'd have voted yes to fund him, for what its worth. In any case they haven't voted against Tao being moderator no matter how you try to spin it. They have (narrowly) unfortunately not voted to pay Tao his proposal, which is fair enough but not at all like the FUD you are spreading.
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 21, 2018, 11:02:27 PM


You are icebreaker. And the demote Ryan owner. I see you
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 21, 2018, 10:55:06 PM
The below thread shows clearly what exactly is currently happening in dashtalk:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-%E2%80%9Cdemote-ryan-taylor-to-an-advisory-role%E2%80%9C.40132/

And by the way, this thread shows what? Your topic being created with only one reply (by you) and then crickets. It shows you rightly being ignored.

304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 21, 2018, 10:46:53 PM


Demo... I think you miss understand. These mods and these forums afford you no rights.  As a community... If we think your raising shit and FUD masqueraded as community betterment is toxic, then we have the absolute right to kick you out.   Don't like it start your own community.

We are all sick and tired of your moaning and groaning.

Tao is the one who has no rights in dashtalk.
He is an unvoted dictator, a paid employee, who oppresses whoever disagree with the current way the dash cryptocurrency is governed.
He opresses and censors not only ordinary users, but also masternode owners!
The below thread shows clearly what exactly is happening in dashtalk.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-%E2%80%9Cdemote-ryan-taylor-to-an-advisory-role%E2%80%9C.40132/


The masternode owners did the mistake and gave to Tao power, once upon times (1035 Yes / 151 No / 10 Abstain)
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/dn-discord-renewal-06-11

After Tao got the power, similar to what Hitler did, he started to apply arbirtrary rules to the forum to censor everyone.
The masternode owners reacted, and voted against TaoOfHitler
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/tao-community-lead

But it was too late. He holds the keys now, he refuses to resign, and he censors everyone, by appying his stupid rules selectively in an non objective way.

May I point out you sound utterly ridiculous ... Hitler?  Come on, really?  No mod is perfect I will agree with that much. From my view Tao is doing the best he can to give the community a positive non toxic place to spread the word about Dash, to be constructive. I don't know him personally but I have seen his attempts over the years to help Dash grow in positive ways. He is someone who has gained my trust the hard way. The hitler analogy only shows me that unlike Tao, you are not someone I can trust.

I will be blunt you come across as somebody who is purely trying to manipulate Dash price as low as possible. Your appearance here at this time in the market cycle does not strike me as coincidental.
  
If you want to be destructive and then get banned (from Dashtalk) you won't get sympathy from me, although you will from the dash haters( who mostly seem to be monerons by the way with a few bcash and core people too). However if you do hate on dash, you can hate on dash here as much as you want, the example of icebreaker shows very clearly. He does it for years. Do you know him?  Wink
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 20, 2018, 08:03:16 AM
Demo15 shows up again with icebreaker already primed with his new censorship angle. What does that remind me of? Oh yes when I wrote this

I've analysed the posting style of 'demo15'.

- Highlights certain key parts in large font using different colour.
- Turns up daily to repost the same post again trying to bump it up to the top of the thread
- Quick to respond to any disagreement
- Tries to hold the moral highground while actually trolling.

=Now lets look at 'iCEBREAKER'

- Highlights certain key parts in large font using different colour.
- Turns up daily to repost the same post again trying to bump it up to the top of the thread
- Quick to respond to any disagreement
- Tries to hold the moral highground while actually trolling.


Hmmm

icebreaker I can't keep up with all your rants, if you are controlling the dialog try to be coherent. Why do you chop and change so much? Why do you keep ignoring my request to hear more about how much better the ETC roadmap is?

LOL, you don't get to control the narrative here, buddy.  That's my job and you can't have it. Wink
I wouldn’t dream of it, you are a legend at such things. 😀

The thing is on, an uncensored forum such as this one you can end up with a troll controlling the dialog. It is only natural community members will seek out a place where they can talk without a troll controlling the dialog.

But you won't allow even the plain text of the my "Demote Ryan Taylor" proposal to be posted, much less discussed.  

Thankfully trolling on the budget proposals level costs dash which should be a limiting factor
306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2018, 11:15:22 PM
One victim even claims to have had their house raided and computer equipment seized in a follow-up operation by UK police."

source: https://news.bitcoin.com/funds-frozen-account-closed-uk-banks-target-cryptocurrency-owners/

I should hope there's more to that case than meets the eye. There should be reasonable belief that an offence has been committed for a warrant. I don't think receiving a large sum from an exchange would be sufficient for money laundering charges without some kind of incriminating evidence (IANAL of course).

I didn't have police at the door but I did have the bank account closed, funds frozen without explanation happen to me. It really really sucked

edit: It was also Clydesdale bank
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 18, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
This week I'm mostly a moneron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18JmieM8SFc


What happened to ETC? Tell me more about its amazing roadmap
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 17, 2018, 10:05:26 AM
iCEBREAKER, you actually make one or two good points on rare occasion. The trouble is you have relentlessly trolled this thread for years. And at times admitted trolling and reveled in it. Only a week or so ago you were stating how you look forward to profiting from shorting Dash. Do you see the difficulty in taking anything you say seriously? What are we to believe about your motivations for these posts?
309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
Can't answer for @bustedsynx myself
but my answer would have to be 'you have to have some skin in the game, almost at whatever cost'
you need off-exchange money tied up, buried under the mountain, guarded by starving wolverines
what if there's a complete supply shock while you sleep and you wake up to the biggest dildo up everyone else's arse ever seen?
all the exchanges cannot cope if some idiot market buys 100k coins
or if fomo sets in the other side of the world from your bedsit while you're being friendzoned by the 5 from Polec101

Those things, and if/when bitcoin ends up being 50K you will not mind at all that you bought at 6800, might even brag about it
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 16, 2018, 10:17:31 PM
Is this the official DASH thread?

Its the original announcement thread. Most the community post elsewhere nowadays as far as I know.
311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 16, 2018, 10:06:03 PM
DashBTC pair has overshot where I wanted support. On long term scale its not yet conclusive breach of the channel, but on shorter timescales looks like breach of support followed by retest of trendline which is now resistance. Will Dash be able to climb back above that line? Interesting times for Dash, concerning for bulls though.

chart


312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 15, 2018, 10:40:54 PM
Hey - today I reviewed DASH Cheesy

http://doiownashitcoin.com/blog/index.php/2018/08/14/dash-shitcoin-review/

Let me know if there is something else I should add/take away.

Cheers and keep up the good work

I like your style
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 14, 2018, 02:00:49 PM
iCEBREAKER that post is from like 3 years ago. Is this a new level of copy paste trolling? Those arguments are ridiculous. Not a single attack has happened as you/ or whoever it was posted that rubbish described. Not one. Hows your ETC investment going? With their amazing roadmap

yonton stop pretending only Dash is going down. This is across the board. You know it full well.

Dash will be one of those that emerges all the stronger as qwizzie said. You know it.


314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 12, 2018, 10:11:56 PM
The distribution has been handled very badly. I was very vocal about it at the time and my feeling has not changed one tiny bit. From my own personal point of view it started very well with airdrops to bitcoin holders, although I missed most of those due to hearing about the project too late I still thought it was a great idea.

This plan was then modified so that byte holders benefited from airdrops to a greater extent than bitcoin holders. To me this again seemed fair and a natural progression.  I bought some bytes and benefited from a couple of airdrops. In hindsight this was the high point of the distribution plan.

I was aware that the supply was increasing hugely (As it had to. But also putting downward pressure on price) but this seemed like was offset from feeling like I was getting reward in terms of a slice of the pie receiving bytes on full moon as reward for showing faith and investing in the project by buying bytes.

So I bought more bytes, anticipating full moon airdrops. But then the warning signs, distribution to be skipped for the next full moon.... and then skipped again. Even then I still   ignored it and decided to buy in bigger. The tech being exciting. Then BOOM.

No more full moon airdrops AND no plan. Instead tiny amounts trickled to people for proving their ID. wtf! Most importantly no incentive to hold instead an incentive to dump. The fall down the rankings was entirely because of this.

At this point there is no point me selling really. I've made so many losses on byteball I may as well stick with it now. Its virtually written off in my mind. Despite the failing of the distribution I still think good things are possible but it is essential that a plan is made and stuck to. And that the distribution is finished. I haven't even gone into the question of witnesses but these also need to be sorted out before any credibility will be attached to byteball.


 
315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 12, 2018, 09:50:44 PM
Wow, under 0.01 BTC. Down about 97% from ath versus BTC and 94% from ath versus USD. Looks like new marketing and distribution methods very effective Cheesy

The price is real crazy - a real let down for those who believed in the project and invested their money. I think Tony should have a real hard look at the distribution methods. Having no marketing might be better than the current dysfunctional methods.

however you want to look at it, that is a genuinely pitiful figure. the more telling one is how far down the rankings it's tumbled as the actual percentages ain't too far off many much larger projects.

most people were here for the airdrops and nothing else. had the airdrops continued as scheduled the same probably would've happened but the uncertainty and rug pulling did not help. people like plans. they like plans even more that are stuck to.

if you can't stick the plan clearly signal it a long time before and introduce a new one at the same time.

I said very similar things months ago but it all fell on very deaf ears.

316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 11, 2018, 07:22:43 PM
Lots of nice press releases and glossy images for promotion what we need right now is stability in the price otherwise people might turn to panic-selling

A bout of panic selling would be quite expected at the end of a bear market.

317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 10, 2018, 10:51:12 PM
Compare this lack of professionalism to the slick, frequently updated https://CardanoRoadmap.com or https://ethereumclassic.org/roadmap/

Meh. I prefer the Dash roadmap
318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 09, 2018, 10:04:20 PM
The market (20 coins) as it grew over the years


Thats interesting. Cheers for sharing
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 09, 2018, 04:33:57 PM


Thank GOD his alive i miss his JOKE posts .

Oh are they jokes? I thought it was FUD and trolling. However lately iCEBREAKER is sounding more and more like a disgruntled Dash investor. Maybe I'm imagining things.

On the subject of his last post though. The payouts are in Dash, 1 Dash is still 1 Dash. Fiat exchange risk wether benefiting from it when price rises or otherwise when price falls is how its always been. Maybe futures markets can be used to mitigate these risks? But whatever this is not new and just the flip side of when Dash was riding high and there was almost too many riches to spend.
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 09, 2018, 04:31:55 PM
any news on the new roadmap? Should be any moment now right?

Markets are depressing I personally think in the worst case scenario for dash when we continue to have a full blown bear market with btc hitting at least 4k, dash will bottom out around $87-120 since that was the top of our first run up back in 2017 and two grand Fibonacci support lines so it would make sense to test that former top between those lines if we have a prolonged continuation of a bear market coming 6 months. We are already at the(normal) 0.882fib retracement line so measured from the beginning of our uptrend so maybe that will give some support as well if btc stays supportive around 6k. I bought some dash yesterday although it seems markets are not quite ready to bounce just yet so it may have been a bit to early.

Although there is a chance we see a prolonged bear market with btc hanging at the edge of the cliff and with the sec probably gonna delay their  decision about the cboe solidx etf till February 2019 we should not get too depressed since the whole marketcap has already declined around 80% from ath which gives me the idea that we are in or will be entering a bottoming fase. So although we can get a continuation of the bear market the most of the losses have already been lost. So its time to cautiously begin to be more optimistic coming weeks/ months and look for nice buy opportunities and not get caught in the capitulation fase by the whales when they want everybody to think crypto or in this case dash is dead.

I was wondering if the treasury of dash cant have something like a saving account build in for the dev team where in times like these in the future they wont have any funding problems during a bear market.

Next quarterly summary call is scheduled for the 10th of august 2018, which should include the release of the new roadmap
Link : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-core-group-q2-2018-summary-call-10-august-2018.39895/

With regards to creating a buffer to use in future bear markets, DashCoreGroup started this recentely through a (recurring) budget proposal
Link : https://www.dashcentral.org/p/coreteamcomp0918

With regards to Bitcoin ETF, latest news is that the SEC will decide on 9 Bitcoin ETFs in the next two months. I'm hoping at least the VanEck/SolidX Bitcoin ETF will be approved (seems the most likely ETF to get approved as its coming from reliable exchange Cboe BZX).
Link : https://www.coindesk.com/the-sec-will-decide-on-9-bitcoin-etfs-in-the-next-2-months/

Personally i think that Bitcoin will limit its fall to somewhere in the 5k range, if its bearmarket would intensify. At least i hope it does.
Shit will really hit the fan if it drops to 4k (mining getting unprofitable, severe blood in the street for altcoins etc).
 



Thanks for the links will check them out. I was 1 day to early for the new roadmap haha im excited to see what will be on there exactly.

Good to hear they created a proposal for it. Although this is something that should have been done already its good that they are working on it now. The dev team like most of us probably didnt expected such a deep bear market and with plenty of room in the budget the probably felt comfortable but the chance of not beeing able to fund the whole dev team should not happen again in the future.

In regards to all the ETF proposals the one we are all waiting for is the vanEck/solidX etf. The problem with is though that the sec can delay their decision on approval once more till feb 2019. I dont have a understanding of all ETF proposals but from what I read the solidx ETF has the most chance bc of Cboe, so if that one gets postponed to feb before being approved and in the mean time all other ETF's will be denied this could lead to some further down pressure coming months.

I would have agreed upon the 5k low for btc if we have had it already before the last uptrend we saw but now we already again at the 6k mark where we have only started our downtrend two weeks ago so if we do break to new lows and all etf's will get denied and the most promising postponed once again I think it can go to 4k. I hope not off course but like markets can be irrational in the upside we saw last year it can be on the down side as well. On the other hand if we can hold 6k zone that would be the 4th time btc would find a bottom in that area which would be pretty bullish imo and confirming we are at the consolidation fase where we are making the new base for the next bullmarket to come.

Either way its risky to sell or buy right now but one thing is certain the bear market will end. We have survived the 2014/15 bear market with much less to show for then we have now and not only dash but the whole crypto ecosystem its not a matter if we get another (this time institutional) bullrun but when it will happen and this for me is a big difference with the sentiment most people felt in the former bear market. Crypto wont die and with a bit of luck evolution will come out when sentiment is turned and dash will once again be market leader of the next bullrun like we did in 2017

Nice to see some non-trollish posting. Your feelings sound similar to mine regarding the ongoing bear market. I think its getting more risky to sell hoping to buy back cheaper, although could pay off, its not the way I'm playing it though. On weekly scale RSI, is into oversold territory. MACD also.  This tells me we are in an accumulation zone. Playing the longer term game, I've already bought and have buy orders waiting if price drops further. Maybe I'll share my chart later but Dash is getting close to what should be strong support (anything above 0.024 if I recall). I can wait as long as it takes

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