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With regards to zero confirmation spending. That is stretching credibility a bit. Even the name of it says it all zero confirmations means there is zero confirmation. I don't remember that ever being a thing. I always thought you need about 6 confirmations to consider it safe?
Dash has a great solution, as usual. With Dash 'instant send' a quorum of masternodes accept the transaction and instantly lock it. No double spend can then happen. Shortly afterwards the confirmation goes through into the blockchain the normal way. Just another example of how Dash already solved all these problems ages ago and the power of the tier of masternodes.
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boom, it just touched 8499 on bitfinex!
Who would have guessed the most fraudulent exchange on the planet where no real humans even trade on for fear of being Gox'd would try and paint the tape higher with tethers printed from thin air. The most inconvenient fact in bitcoin: why can nobody point out why every single price movement in bitcoin must be initiated by Bitfinex and NEVER any other exchange that actually has any veneer of legitimacy? The price is only allowed to be moved by the obvious scam exchange of the day whether it's Gox, Huobi, or Bitfinex. Which begs the question, can the price of bitcoin actually go up WITHOUT fraud involved? But the silver market is not manipulated? Why are you always on the wrong side of the trade? |
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Also have learned something today which is that libertarians basically just want to be left alone.
Libertarianism is a theoretical system that works on paper but is 100% invalid in the real world because it's impossible to function in a closed ecosystem (the current state of earth). In practice, all libertarianism is is one moron campaigning for unilateral disarmament of whatever tribe or human settlement he lives in or was born into, while the odds of all potentially hostile external settlements doing the same thing at the same time is virtually zero. You are in effect just opening the door to your civilization while rolling out a red carpet that says "come kill, steal, or enslave us". Libertarianism literally is nothing more than a renamed version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Whether you believe the protocols are fiction or non-fiction doesn't matter, they are 100% correct: 14. In any State in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign lord of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism.
6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism."
Many in the post-Ron Paul era - although probably unable to convey this reality in words - know this is subconsciously true and have moved on looking for better solutions, usually involving the only known functional frameworks of human existence over the last several thousand years - homogeneous, ethnocentric city-states (aka things like the alt-right). The struggle for individual freedom is a quality that unconsciously all will admire even those stomping all over it will have it in their hearts has a guilty secret. They will know in their soul they were wrong when the time to be judged. Might is right. There is nothing new in that. Throughout your life and struggle may see your nation be overcome by another even worse state. I don't like the thought of siding with a mighty facist movement to overcome some kind of slightly weaker other ideology. So yes the struggle for your own freedom might be futile, it might make your own current bully of a state weaker and allow a stronger bully of a state to take over. But one bully is much the same as another. Read Animal Farm. I liked Hairy Maclairy's view better. Its not easy to admit seeing the other side of a debate. Hats off. |
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And then Congress will make a law against road pirates, who are using Comcast’s private roads without permission. And we can all run a campaign on road neutrality and no one will listen
A good illustration why power of the state is not good. |
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Btw I think moderation is well judged. Some people post offensive shite, some people get offended. Its the spice of life that keeps it interesting. If this thread was only about observing walls noone would be here.
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Anybody still holding Byteball? That's one of the few BTC airdrops I never dumped. It seems like it's been tanking the last 8 months though.
Fuck off this thread is for BTC Yes I hold byteball. The tech is very interesting, but the distribution has been botched. I'm hodling for now though. FYI he's the thread starter or the OP and the moderator here. So watch your word. Maybe deleted this reply later. Oops  |
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The only reason you're smug and patting yourself on the back about BCash is that you got in pre-fork and thus didn't have to shell out a dime for it.
But I'm winning so far. Perhaps that's what's really bugging you. There is no way possible Marcus and his army of bugmen can compete with the coming r0ach thousand year physical silver reich. So have no fear Torque, it's impossible for Jbreher to win in the end, as I plan to tap dance on the grave of both bitcoin and bcash while physical commodity money curbstomps imaginary, designed to centralize shitcoin tokens into the ground. Imagine how much more silver bullion you could have stashed away if you'd had the foresight to invest in bitcoin and use profits on that to increase your silver stack? Shame your blinkers cause you to miss out on these once in a lifetime opportunities. Heres bitcoin versus silver in 2013. That was when the price of bitcoin had first overtaken the price of 1 ounce of silver.  Today lets have a look Silver spot $17.24 1 Bitcoin $8264 Those figures speak for themselves. Silver has gone down about half. Meanwhile bitcoin is well. Much much higher I always loved silver myself. But the problem is the market is completely under control. Maybe you'll be right one day. I think silver could make a great form of money. |
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The 4 orange letters seem to spell BICH
yeap another 2000 points (so far) bull run on BitCH/BTC pair. Congrats to jbreher. Thanks, I appreciate the sentiment. Though I didn't have anything to do with it. Other than to hodl, that is. The only reason you're smug and patting yourself on the back about BCash is that you got in pre-fork and thus didn't have to shell out a dime for it. Same with Roger Ver, CSW, Mcafee, Peter R., and all the other BCash shills. They all got their BCash for free, and so that's why they shill hard for it. They know damn well that they wouldn't buy any significant amount of that shitcoin on the open market if they had to spend real fiat for it. And when it crashes into the shitter one day, no skin off their backs. The only people who will get burned are the brainwashed BCash cultists who paid real money for that garbage. How come you didn't get any bcash? |
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This thread is meant to be about walls isn't it? Come on guys stay on topic. Heres a wall I just observed on the internet  |
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Its a wild leap of speculation to equate 'merge mined' to the masternodes implementation which only came years later, back then there could have been any number of directions Dash could go in.. The detailed plans you highlight could have been about almost anything, eg the X11 algorithm for mining which was the big feature then. Its an interesting theory but you'll need a lot more evidence to convince anyone. |
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The world is changing ever more rapidly. We need to fight for our freedom and for truth. We do not need censorship.
On another note my wife was telling me this morning that Spain is inviting shepardi jews to apply for spanish (EU) passports.
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How much of dash was premined? and is there any sharing masternode pool to be a part of it
Dash was never premined [...] It was instamined, which means instead of being mined by the devs before the project is released it was mined right after by the devs before other's joined in. The difference is only a technicality. Not that it makes DASH scam, but you can't hide the fact it happened. It was not mined just by the devs right after release, it was mined by many other miners as well. The difference between a intentional and pre-announced premine and an accidental instamine is much more then just a technicality, they form different categories. Nobody is hiding the fact that the instamine happened, not sure why you felt the need to say that.. it is public knowledge in Dash forums since 2014 and I pointed to Dash instamine history in my previous post (same link as UdjinM6 also provided) People should really avoid using words like premine with regards to Dash, when they don't really understand it's definition. To those people intend on pressing Dash in the premine corner anyways : it's not working anymore, try something else. As I understand that facts are these. It wasn't premined or instamined. (Whatever instamined is actually meant to mean). The term 'fast mined' is more accurate. The emmission was too fast in the beginning due to bug in the code. And Evan jumped the gun with the commencement of the project. Also there wasn't a windows binary for mining (boo hoo, who as a serious crypto hacker uses windoze anyway?). You can argue that Evan intentionally jumped the gun and / or intentionally left a fastmine bug in the code. This is where the scam meme originates. You can equally well give benefit of doubt that they were unintentional. Regardless of the motive you need to also consider it is a fact that no-one at that time knew what Dash would grow into, not Evan or anyone else. The coins of that time had very little value for a reason. There has been ample time for early beneficiaries of the fast mine to sell on open market. It is my opinion that there is no fair way to distribute any coin. And the Dash way, flaws and all is much better than most. |
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Tonych, what about the possible BOINC project for Byteball? No decision or action yet for that? I'm still looking forward to contribute some computing power for any decent research.
There will be a distribution to World Community Grid contributors soon. I'm currently developing the bot that will link Byteball addresses to WCG accounts. That's the future plan of distribution? It seems like the early distribution of Ripple. Is it FAIR or effective? Is it fair? It is literally POW. Is it effective? Ask Ripple. As I understand it, ripple XRP were 100% premined and 60% are still hodl'd by the creators. With byteball it was 100% premined and I think 35% are currently hodl'd by creator. So yes quite similar. But byteball not quite as bad. And Tony (byteball creator) still as far as I know 'promising' to distribute all in ways judged to increase the amount of byteball users. (however the timescale for distribution is unknown). |
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What's the read on sentiment in here? We bullish or bearish?
it begins with a "b" Actually "it" begins with an "i" So true. Lol. I'm bullish. But not on the 1 min timescale. The game goes like this. In a bitcoin bear market try to accumulate more bitcoin. And in a bitcoin bull market try to accumulate more bitcoin. (or in my case try to accumulate more bitcoin, dash, and erm cough. bitcoin cash. and maybe byteball? oh yeah and gold and silver, physical bullion if you haven't got any. p.s. psychedelic drugs can give amazing experiences but can mentally unhinge certain susceptible people as well. They are not without risk |
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In my view the best distribution method of the fund left is airdrop to all byteball holders in inverse proportion to Gbytes they have, providing they were kept for at least a month ( to avoid massive dump). The less Gbytes you have the more you get. And it has to be done in one round of airdrop. After this I expect a market will soon warm it up.
Mike works and saves, so he has 10 apples. John doesn't care and wastes, so he has 1 apple. Let's distribute apples. Ok Mike, you have 10, so you only get 1 for your hard work and planning. John, you only have 1, but although you're wasteful and willing to dump, you get 10 apples. Now you both have 11 (again?). How is this fair? The person that actually saves and believes in the system gets less because he HODLed, while the person that may even have received the same amount initially and dump some/most of it gets more? By spendings his apples (GBytes) John stimulated demand thus pushing economy ( Byteball) forward. By holding his apples (Gbytes) Mike did nothing for economy (Byteball). Economy (Byteball) is stimulated by spenders but not by savers. To get it, please, read about Keynesian model of economy. People in the crypto space believe in that Keynesian crap!? |
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That's a days salary in some countries. They'll probably make the same effort for $0.35, but the real users won't bother for that amount. And that effectively kills this airdrop method.
Exactly. Tony seriously needs to plan and evaluate any distribution method he releases. You can't exactly keep changing everything ONCE YOU'VE ANNOUNCED IT and expect to be taken seriously. Byteball will be so much better when it is decentralised. Please can we just burn the rest ? The distribution phase needs to end. The thread tells the story, 900 pages about airdrops and how to receive bytes, or in the last fews pages disgruntled sig campaigners bitching about not being selected. What are we going to have, another 900 pages about how to receive free bytes? Its the never ending story. When can we move on and maybe even talk about other things. Burn them, or one huge airdrop of all the rest to byteholders. Byteball will have achieved a huge milestone when all the coins are circulating. Lets stop finding ingenious ways to make users be pissed off and dragging this on and on. |
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Nice tech.
What is the roadmap and timeline regarding distributing the remaining bytes and blackbytes ?
What is the plan for decentralising witnesses?
Thanks
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Hmm, I must not be seeing what you're seeing, JJG.
Something important that you said is that one can refer to previous periods as general frames of how the market will behave in the immediate future, and I think a lot of people misunderstand that. I'm glad to see you explaining that in such a great way. The price discovery near $13,000 is not sufficiently done, and I think that it will take more than a year to reach back over the heights of last year.
I can't think of anything fun ether. I was hoping to come up with some fun "I told you so", but... yeah. I guess we just wait and see.
I think you are looking at different timescales yourself and JJG. On longer timescales bitcoin is still bullish as fuck, it came from literally zero a few years back and now thousands of dollars. On shorter timescales bitcoin is quite bearish though. Your post did come across a bit like FUD but your point is very valid that we are in a bearish wave. I think the argument is really about the trend, is the trend now bearish or is it still bullish (despite a huge motherfuckn correction). I posted a chart a few days back with both bullish and bearish channels, bullish on longer timescale , bearish on shorter timescale. Only time will tell which trend wins). My own view is that I think bitcoin has fallen too far for a quick return to euphoria. It pains me to say that because I am an original perma bull. I will probly HODL. In long term timescale, bitcoin is still bullish as fuck. |
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Byteball is showing great resistance against Bitcoin by sustaining its value at decent level. It is rare chance for fiat based investors to step forward and pick cheap coins. Next phase should be of non ICO's projects having something in their basket to offer as solutions and Byteball meets with this criteria.
Against bitcoin byteball has fallen since the end of February from 0.075 to 0.023 today, how is that sustaining its value ?  Still I guess it will find a level somewhere where it can show great resistance |
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