What do we think of the Georgia Guidestones?
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Whoever conceived this crap should put their money where their mouths are and start by ending their own cancerous existence. apparently they do, they are like the jhadists in a suicide mission. and if they didn't most intel and cointel would have understood, but for them it's beyond their consciousness than those applying this program do it at themselves. they believe in darwinism, the stronger only will survive... it's the only method they could use... at least they believe in their shit show... it's to save "life on earth" as otherwise according to them, the religious and exploiters can't contain their urge to reproduce reducing the earth to a single city sooner or later... yahda yahda... 99% of the western security services believe it's a lie, they are so sure of themselves (98% of them believe that a plant of the earth should be illegal). and when you get that you understand why the guidestonians will eliminate indiscrinately, and furthermore doing nothing as most people are too stupid to do any research about the consequences of their actions  . the convenient rope . Dude I'm not sure I understood your reply but maybe I've had one too many beer. But ..To call humanity a cancer is to miss all the beauty, the poetry, the tragedy, the love. We are part of nature, just like trees and ants. Lets call ants a cancer and depopulate them. See how ridiculous that sounds. https://www.quora.com/The-total-biomass-of-all-the-ants-on-Earth-is-roughly-equal-to-the-total-biomass-of-all-the-people-on-Earth-How-can-this-be-ants-are-so-tiny-and-we-are-so-bigdon't tell it to me, but to those who embrace the guidestone agenda... However if you refuse to see their point of view, for your fake moral reason, you don't stand a chance, and I am losing my time. be honest with yourself first. Ok I'll tell them. Can you give me their email address? Cheers |
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Whoever conceived this crap should put their money where their mouths are and start by ending their own cancerous existence. apparently they do, they are like the jhadists in a suicide mission. and if they didn't most intel and cointel would have understood, but for them it's beyond their consciousness than those applying this program do it at themselves. they believe in darwinism, the stronger only will survive... it's the only method they could use... at least they believe in their shit show... it's to save "life on earth" as otherwise according to them, the religious and exploiters can't contain their urge to reproduce reducing the earth to a single city sooner or later... yahda yahda... 99% of the western security services believe it's a lie, they are so sure of themselves (98% of them believe that a plant of the earth should be illegal). and when you get that you understand why the guidestonians will eliminate indiscrinately, and furthermore doing nothing as most people are too stupid to do any research about the consequences of their actions . the convenient rope . Dude I'm not sure I understood your reply but maybe I've had one too many beer. But ..To call humanity a cancer is to miss all the beauty, the poetry, the tragedy, the love. We are part of nature, just like trees and ants. Lets call ants a cancer and depopulate them. See how ridiculous that sounds. |
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Whoever conceived this crap should put their money where their mouths are and start by ending their own cancerous existence. |
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Down to 102nd place on coinmarketcap  |
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I think that the project will continue and develop further. On the basis of Dash, projects are already being made. Activity in the community is also high.
that won't happen, only on your dream. Mining will be obsolete, it won't scale no matter how hard you try so the price. I see you like byteball so I get what you are saying. Future is DAG not blockchain. (I don't really agree but anyway) Byteball interests me too and I am invested in it but is not without its own problems. Biggest issue I have is the 12 witnesses who determine what is the main chain. 12 seems like an awfully small number and not really decentralised (Even within that small number all 12 still owned by dev!). The tech is interesting though and Tonych doing a pretty good job with all the features he's adding. Shame about the distribution though, he fucked it up big time and Byteball slipping out of the top 100 is very disappointing to me as an investor. In hindsight I should have bought more Dash instead. |
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You can use Bitcoin on-chain any time you want and avoid second layer solutions.
That is what I do. In fact I prefer to avoid segwit addresses too. Maybe overly paranoid but I'm not yet comfortable trusting them.
Do you see any merchant adoption going on with bcash? No? Then there's your answer as to which one is best.
The other day I paid my Vultr bill using bcash, because fees were lower. From what I've experienced bcash is getting more adoption than I expected. |
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JJG I do believe your response was quite philosophical in places  Thanks for taking the time to type that out though. Over our months of back and forth I've developed much more respect for your opinions * Cheers edit * Not that I agree with them all but anyway. Anyhoo heading out soon, so won't go into debate mode now Well, there is always going to be some framework from which to work, so if you believe that it might be helpful to go over areas of presumption, then perhaps that could be helpful - although we could be repeating BIG BLOCKER arguments. From your various posts, I do think that you give a lot more benefit of the doubt to the various BIG BLOCKER arguments and their framework than I do. I tend to be really dismissive of various BIG BLOCKER framework and arguments because I think that they tend to be misleading in their tendency to create false comparisons and even to presume facts that are not in evidence - for example, BIG BLOCKERS have tended to spend so much time arguing the logic of increasing transaction times and fees - but they were also involved in SPAM attacks to attempt to create the facts that they claim existed to cause emergency needs to take action. Furthermore, BIG BLOCKERs seem to suggest that there is some necessity that the status quo of bitcoin needs to be defended, when in fact if they are proposing facts or logic, then they are the ones that need to provide evidence and logic for their position to change the status quo. On a related note, their inability to get reception for their nonsense positions in terms of submitting BIPS and even perhaps their laziness in attempting to work within the bitcoin governance process seems to cause them to strive towards working outside the bitcoin system and to engage in attacks, threats and coercion in order to attempt to get their way, rather than really trying to get their proposed changes adopted through already existing bitcoin governance procedures. They just ignore those governance procedures because they want to change (or sabotage the bitcoin procedures) or they have other get rich quick pumping of other personalized project agendas. You seem keen to categorise me. Before you put me in big blocker category know this. I always ran a full bitcoin node. It was a hassle synching the blockchain to get up to date when I wanted to do any transactions but I did it. I liked to have a feel for how big the blockchain was getting. How hard to synchronise. Over the years that I did this I was very aware of how much effort it took to run a full node and a sense of feeling its growth. I always thought that when a full node became too unwieldy for me that would be my signal to exit bitcoin. Recently my copy of the blockchain became corrupted. I spent a few days trying to repair/ resync and in the end gave up. I no longer run a full node. Who cares? I'm still with bitcoin but not running a full node anymore. But the point is even small blocks are too big. When you look at the constantly, endlessly growing blockchain. When I redeemed my bcash I didn't even consider a full node. With blocks that size! Who runs a full bcash wallet? anyone ? With regards to block size I am not big blocker but small blocker. But if its on chain or off chain, I choose on chain. This puts me between a rock and a hard place. I don't like big blocks and I don't like second layer. But maybe now you get a sense why I can be hedged with bitcoin and bcash. In the end I admit I don't know which will be best. In Dash master nodes have incentive to scale, so the network will remain big and distributed. The node will have to keep up or miss out. It has incentive to scale. So at least there is that. |
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we are number 100 on coinmarketcap. Is this the last day that we will be on page 1?
99th as I write. Gone up one. But still.. Ouch. This fall has everything to do with the botched distribution. What do you expect when the incentive to HODL is removed? |
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I seem to remember bitcore was a bit different wasn't it? ie your private keys don't match on the bitcore blockchain? Bitcoin Diamond getting a bit of a pump today, might be worth looking into that next |
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Come on dude! it is a very lame move selling bch, we got it from the fork and there is nothing to lose in HODLing it... If we sell bch, it would be very scary to HODL bitcoin too. I know people will hate what am saying but come on - let's face the reality that these two coins are threat to one another. Let's play safe and HODL both. In fact, the price is not bad at all... who knows maybe next year it would reach $8000, there is no harm in HODLing it.
This is a perfect summary of why bitcash is even still a thing. It is exactly this attitude. No sorry. Holding bcash is validating bullshit. I refuse to do it. I'm not saying your argument is wrong, it's just that holding bcash "just in case" would make me feel dirty. Each to their own. Isn't free market a wonderful thing? The competition is good. |
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I’ve been advised that dash is a good buy right now so I just bought 3 hours ago and it dropped 4% that fast immediately after I bought wtf!!!
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Feel free to pump my bitcoin private.
Anyone know where to dump them?
I stopped paying attention to forks after bitcoin gold. What ones are worth doing? |
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I understand that you are referring to ETH - and I personally would not be employing such incrementalism system, unless that I have a belief in the fundamentals of the asset (which for me is not the case with ETH). So yeah, sure such an incrementalism step system can work for ETH on the short term, but it works better (to sleep comfortably at night) if you believe in the long term prospects of the asset (so better for BTC than ETH), and therefore your long term vision to accumulate and to HODL the asset through the bad times (which is a part of volatility).
I book the profits in BTC, I just choose to do it with the BTC:ETH and BTC:LTC pairs rather than soiling myself with the lowest of shitcoins...USD. Etherium that blockchain that isn't immutable. |
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IMO he is right, at least for me XMR is the No2 after Bitcoin. And i think thats the case for many bitcoiners. Dash doesnt stand a chance sry.  Thats funny. But you can keep your opaque blockchain, makes it fungible right? In which you have to trust without being able to verify that no-one is minting coins sneakily via an exploit or bug. Or you can have privacy hoping that the single point of failure encryption wont be cracked revealing all your transactions. Like here http://hackingdistributed.com/2017/04/19/monero-linkability/ Not to mention slow transactions, bloated blockchain.. Think bitcoin has scaling problems? But Monero does now have a wallet, which is progress. 1. You can of course verify the total number of coins 2. If the encryption is cracked crypto ist fucked anyway 3. This is old news and was adressed with RingCT 4. Bulletproofs will reduce TX size by 80-90% 5. Ledger support with next release ~ 2 weeks Monero ist solid development, no hype. It grows slowly but surely. Interesting. But please elaborate how you know the total number of coins? And guarantee that unaccounted minting cannot occur. Yes that problem was addressed but had been undetected for some time. People prior to that trusted Monero for privacy. You now trust there isn't another undetected problem or problems in similar way. I reserve judgement on bulletproofs. |
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IMO he is right, at least for me XMR is the No2 after Bitcoin. And i think thats the case for many bitcoiners. Dash doesnt stand a chance sry. Thats funny. But you can keep your opaque blockchain, makes it fungible right? In which you have to trust without being able to verify that no-one is minting coins sneakily via an exploit or bug. Or you can have privacy hoping that the single point of failure encryption wont be cracked revealing all your transactions. Like here http://hackingdistributed.com/2017/04/19/monero-linkability/ Not to mention slow transactions, bloated blockchain.. Think bitcoin has scaling problems? But Monero does now have a wallet, which is progress. |
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I was confused about this reply to my post the other day.. With regards to zero confirmation spending. That is stretching credibility a bit. Even the name of it says it all zero confirmations means there is zero confirmation. I don't remember that ever being a thing. I always thought you need about 6 confirmations to consider it safe?
Dash has a great solution, as usual. With Dash 'instant send' a quorum of masternodes accept the transaction and instantly lock it. No double spend can then happen. Shortly afterwards the confirmation goes through into the blockchain the normal way. Just another example of how Dash already solved all these problems ages ago and the power of the tier of masternodes.
FFS - if you're going to shill an altcoin here, at least pick a respectable one. A respectable coin? Wait.. what ?  but then, If, sometime in the future, consensus dictates that Bcash is the real Bitcoin, I would acknowledge that. However, I'd also acknowledge that Bitcoin has failed, and I would disengage from the space altogether, and focus on Monero or something.
Ah OK all makes sense now. Yes Monero that respectable coin. |
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JJG I do believe your response was quite philosophical in places Thanks for taking the time to type that out though. Over our months of back and forth I've developed much more respect for your opinions * Cheers edit * Not that I agree with them all but anyway. Anyhoo heading out soon, so won't go into debate mode now |
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Didn't you know this is the Wall Observer Maximalist thread. I know exactly what you mean but risk being shouted at to say that here On the date of the bitcoin cash fork. Bitcoin core forked too didn't they? That was when segwit was activated. The original bitcoin in reality is an etheric and ambigous thing which probably no longer exists. The real shit slinging match is over the brand. nonsense. You are suggesting that there is some kind of equality in forks. There is only one bitcoin, and that thing called bcash was a renegade fork that ends up serving as an ongoing and persistent attack vector on bitcoin - the real one. Get the fuck out of here trying to assert that bcash is bitcoin or that bcash is the real bitcoin or anything close to that, even though bcash happens to copy bitcoin from both branching off and its continued lack of innovations, so they are engaged in ongoing stealing from bitcoin. Regarding bitcoin forking at around the same time as the renegade bcash hardfork , you got your history wrong. If you recall there was a process for obtaining consensus in bitcoin and the process was followed, which caused locking in of the segwit consensus and thereafter there was another period before the actual new consensus code was activated... a soft fork and voluntary and backward compatible, too. If you also recall bcash was a hardfork that went into effect on a kind of emergency basis and was driven by a small group of folks who were disgruntled about the segwit2x newyork agreement not going the way that they had hoped.. which if you recall the segwit2x and ny agreement was also a kind of scam and an attack attempt on bitcoin both in terms of attempting to change the blocksize limit but also attempting to change bitcoin's governance.. which failed. Hey JJG, I trust your recollections better than my own of the events of that fork. I'm not suggesting equality of the forks, my point was on a more philosophical level. What is bitcoin anyway? If it is how the protocol was originally conceived then it doesn't exist anymore as I see it. One might argue that core had deviated more from the initial protocol than bcash did so is less close to the original bitcoin. I mean stripping witness data from blocks is a massive change no matter how you colour it. However I accept that the community as a whole has backed cores direction and bestowed the brand on that. I shouldn't be lumped in with bcash anyway. Yes I do have some in my portfolio along with selected other alts and of course bitcoin itself but if I had to choose the best digital cash, it isn't bcash   |
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Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin. This is the least complicated thing ever.  Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid. In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other. #1 Ok, here is an argument for you then. When bcash forked, the market made a choice and declared bitcoin, bitcoin when the value stayed in bitcoin and did not transfer to bcash #2 Here is another one, bcash changed the difficulty adjustment mechanism (block #478559) before bitcoin activated segwit (block #481824) and was therefore a fork of bitcoin at that instant. Then, even if you want to say segwit is not bitcoin, bitcoin forked from itself at block #481824 and then won the fork with itself and became bitcoin Did I dumb it down enough for you? I mean I hate doing this because it's getting really boring and I feel like everyone here should have just understood what I was saying by now but: #1 So it's a democratic thing? Because I can tell you some of the value did go to bcash. So the fact that more went to core is what made it "the real bitcoin"? So if 51% had gone to bcash you would have reluctantly agreed that it was the real bitcoin? Even though ver's ideas are garbage? What if bcash slowly gains more and more and gets to over 50% in the future? Does it then become "the real bitcoin". If the value bounces back and forth back and forth between 49% and 51% relative to each other does the "real bitcoin" change every day as the value changes? Even if I don't go this route and accept your reason. Even if I allow that "the market decided" why does the market get to decide? You still have to say why. You can't just declare it. It just so happens that I agree with the markets decision however If ver's garbage vision for bitcoins future had won out in market capitalization after the fork I wouldn't have accepted it as "the real bitcoin" just because it had slightly more market cap. I would be here saying that core was the real bitcoin in my opinion even though it was slightly less capitalized. #2 If that is a real reason, than you would have to say that you would call ver's version of bitcoin "the real bitcoin" if the roles had been reversed and core forked first instead of cash forking first. Are you really prepared to stand behind that? Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit. On a lighter node. Screw lambos. I'm want one of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsfgbHvuYRU Didn't you know this is the Wall Observer Maximalist thread. I know exactly what you mean but risk being shouted at to say that here On the date of the bitcoin cash fork. Bitcoin core forked too didn't they? That was when segwit was activated. The original bitcoin in reality is an etheric and ambigous thing which probably no longer exists. The real shit slinging match is over the brand. |
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