Also noting that



Of course doesn't mean moon will happen again. Or does it?

Heres my fork  



And a bit zoomed out



Personally I view $1000 + as more likely than $100 - but I'm just some guy on the interweb

I view upside breakout as more likely too. This fork has held for a while yet lets see how long bitcoin price stays within it

He proposes a team of trolls. You'd know iCEBREAKER, does it work ?

In my opinion it is disappointing markets in the 'dark web' are not picking up on using dash. Hats off to monero on that one.

While I can understand it not being a good idea to target dark markets from within the dash core dev team (or anyone directly working on dash) there must be other entrepreneurs out there willing to accept dash.

Anyway I'm not too concerned, as others have noted Dash has a nice organic rise going on, a budget system being used to make it ever better, Dash evolution to look forward to.

Has monero got a wallet yet? Maybe they also have that to look forward to. Future is bright for monero and dash! 

Awesome! Maybe time to buy more Dash

Looking at my own charts which I use more of a trend based analysis I won't like to see bitcoin heading below $530 which is below the bull fork I'm following, if that happens maybe I consider selling some

Yes kicking the can on the economy is already going longer than I first thought, who knows how long it can continue?

If you can trade profitably using EW good on ya. I won't be selling at these levels though, to me it doesn't feel like that was a top. Which I will regret of course if $85 btc does come along. But even if price starts crashing I probably won't sell anything, I hate selling into falling prices.

To elaborate a bit my own bullish view of bitcoin is based on the wider economic picture in which central banks are holding interest rates at zero or even attempting negative interest rates. Central banks are also doing quantitative easing in Europe, Japan and Britain. Bitcoin is a natural protection against that, as is gold and other hard assets. Bitcoin supply recently halved also which should not be forgotten. Like a few others I find sub $100 btc hard to believe in this climate. Bitcoin is the daddy of crypto and the one which investors will first turn to in crypto space, not Dash or Eth or whatother alt might have arguably superior tech. But as I said above i could be wrong and admit it quite honestly and openly.

I hold my hand up and admit I don't know shit about elliott wave analysis but my perception is that like any other analysis it is constantly modified by price not doing what it was supposed to, eg this must be wave 3, oh no wait if went the wrong direction maybe that means we are still in wave 2 of a bigger wave or some shit like that.

Having said all that my perception is based on ignorance of the principles of EW. I do find this an interesting thread and also despite my opinion that bitcoin will go a lot higher I am open to the possiblity I am wrong.

In precious metals forums I notice people interested in bitcoin but not alts

Yes I have not personally trusted the key yet. this is a bit new to me but I intend to devote some more of my time to understanding it better as I agree that it is important to verify the download. Up until now I have usually just downloaded it and started using it right away without verifying anything.

Thanks for your help

Thanks for getting back to me, I must have done something wrong on importing the keys, I had missed that one somehow. Now I am getting this

xxxxxxxxxxx$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.asc
gpg: Signature made Tue 23 Aug 2016 16:23:26 CEST using RSA key ID 36C2E964
gpg: Good signature from "Wladimir J. van der Laan (Bitcoin Core binary release signing key) <laanwj@gmail.com>"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 01EA 5486 DE18 A882 D4C2  6845 90C8 019E 36C2 E964

I have a warning on the output now, is this something I should worry about?
Or can I now safely assume I have correct binary ?

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, when i generate the hash it matches correct but then I tried verifying as below and got public key not found. I have imported the keys that were listed in OP, there were 5 i think

xxxxxxxxxxx$ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.asc
gpg: Signature made Tue 23 Aug 2016 16:23:26 CEST using RSA key ID 36C2E964
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found


I feel like it is safe to use the binary because the hashes did match, is that the case? why have i not go the right public key?

My chart is similar to blackbirds' above



Buy the dip

That would be interesting to know but I don't see how you could get that info

Hey volyova you let that slip, is this your job, u're paid to post here?

Nice one 

The dynamics of the Dash reserve market are certainly very interesting. I agree it must be true that Masternodes do soak up Dash supply but does that lead to conclusion that instamined coins are being dumped? I'd say probably no. But if it is true then its a good thing though no? Maybe just as entropy seeks to increase in the universe, coins will eventually disperse to spread out and be less centralised. If you spray perfume in the corner of a room, then through time it disperses throughout the whole room, it doesn't stay in the corner. Instamined coins being sold means less centralisation of ownership which would be good once markets have absorbed the selling, if you agree that decentralisation is better. I think Dash coins have been available cheap in market place and in enough quantities since the instamine that this has already happened to an extent.

Another factor is the Dash budgeting, work to enhance Dash is budgeted and paid in Dash, however I imagine most costs will actually be paid in fiat. This will mean a sell pressure. But longer term effect should be good because Dash is being enhanced by the work being carried out.

Another factor is that a lot of liquidity locked up in maternodes means less liquidity bought and sold by speculation on marketplace. I'm guessing here but perhaps this means that less coins moving can drive the price further up and down, albeit on lower volumes.

One thing is for sure Dash is quite unique and isn't going away

I disagree with this statement completely. Dash is medium for exchange, thats it. End of story right there. What is exchanged is not a concern of Dash. That is concern for law enforcement potentially but not Dash or cash or bitcoin.

Amazing spike in Monero, will almost certainly be followed by massive dumping though I feel, its hype and speculation. Dash growth looks much more organic and sustainable to me, despite the dip being experienced currently. I admit being biased, not a fan of monero although thank you to the monero trolls who do stimulate interesting discussion at times.