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Just catching up on my favourite bitcoin forums thread. Standard of discussion is particularly excellent. Tok your posts are awesome, I'm a real fan.
To Lisk King I would do what I did, several months ago and try both. In my case I didn't like Monero, couldn't run a node and disliked that they had no graphical wallet for noobs, at the time there didn't seem to be much development going on either. Maybe they have that stuff now. But still I am much more excited by other things that Dash is doing now, for example governance and budgets. Each to their own though and good luck
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Dash has surprised me with the strength of this bull run. On weekly log chart, dash poked above the top trendline connecting previous highs.  On shorter timescales looks possible there will now be a period of correction from price which went up too fast and is now overbought. For me I want to see this increase in market cap start translating into much more places where you can actually buy things with Dash. |
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Just noticed my thread has been bumped so might aswell post a chart! Thanks for keeping my thread going  Heres 1week log chart on Bitstamp  My take on it is that there are two mini bubbles in this bull trend. The first was the spike to $500 the last was the spike up past $700. At the moment we are still correcting from that last bubble, I think bitcoin will probably stay a bit flat or down perhaps until September or later. Ultimately with supply halved, and possibility of stock market collapse, economic crisis, bank bailouts and all that stuff still looking like it could easily happen, I still think bitcoin has potential to achieve great new highs in the longer term. |
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Wow, thought this thread had become some sort of bear enclosure....$85!! But then...LoLing at the fact the chart claiming $22K high is "good". Hey nanobrain, that chart is rather good in my humble opinion (not because I did it or anything). Its not a 'prediction' its just showing what would happen if history repeats after this halving as the first one. Anyway I think Afrikoin tries to be balanced showing both bearish and bullish opinion which is commendable. |
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The whole ETH/ETC thing showed me that bitcoin should definately avoid a hard fork and doing the same. This fork has hurt etherium and doing similar to bitcoin would hurt it too.
In the case of ETH is not yet finished and another fork is required by one of the chains to change its transaction ID's so that the two chains become properly separated. Its a mess.
On the other idea, of changing bitcoin value. That would mean abandoning the 21million limit which is a core pillar of bitcoin and should never be tampered with.
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Proudhon back! thats a bullish indicator
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then you need to borrow money from them instead and ask for those negative interest rate LOL
...but what are the implications of negative interest rates ? To me it's that the price of money has gone negative - that is that nobody wants it and money is now toxic. The reason banks want you to borrow is so they can swap their toxic liquidity for your secure assets (like your house) when you default, which is what they will make sure you do in the event of a banking collapse. Free money = Honey pot. Negative interest rates means banks are in the end game. That cannot be sustainable in any way I can imagine. For it to work they also have to ban cash and gold and bitcoin and dash. It also means most normal people will be fleeced |
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Anyone has issues with poloniex too? My margin balance went to zero, had some Dash there. Deposit and withdrawal history shows only few entrys from 2014. Same with Trade history. (Price/Share 0.00175000  ) Seems ok to me at the moment |
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Regarding the steadily increasing number of masternodes. Is there any way of knowing or estimating how many new masternodes are getting their collateral from compounding payments from other masternodes owned by same multiple masternode holder, versus how many come from new masternodes purchasing dash from exchange? I have a bit of curiosity about that.
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Heres a chart. I know its very cluttered, but kind of makes sense to me. 4 hour (heikin ashi)  Main bit I'm interested in is the descending wedge. Since I've recently bought more Dash, I'm expecting or hoping that it will break up a bit like the green arrow I added in. Go Dash |
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Wow icy I have been reading this thread since page 240 and you seem to say a lot of negative things about dash. If you don't care or find dash intresting why on earth are you here. I would never spend my life on another coins (monero) forum letting people know how bad it is I would let them make there own judgement on there investment (hard earned money). The only reason I can think for your jibba jabba is you get paid for doing so which I think is very awful of you messing with people's judgment and hard earned money. Please have a think.
That's me over and out
You can have another think... so you are okay if people/friends invest in OneCoin where youself know it is a scam? You would not bother telling them that you think it might be a scam, where you even have many facts and arguments? You are right in one point, everyone should do their due diligence, but isnīt part of the opinions of other people necessary too, as not everyone can be expert in everything. I used to read icebreakers comments and sometimes respond to them but through time I counldn't be bothered now i see 'This user is ignored'. He thinks he's helping people avoid a scam presumably he is also on many other threads too or is dash the only scam in cryptoland ? Regarding the way coins were minted in the beginning yes it does look scammy back then. But it doesn't put me off yet. Dash is doing the right things and moving in the right direction. If someone offered me a thousand dollars worth of dash or monero, I'd choose dash. If I had to take the monero, I'd sell it on exchange for dash. |
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Hi, I don't know much about Lisk but wondering if it might be affected by similar problems as eth / dao ?
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When is the halving anyway ?
I think first comment after OP nailed it. There is a shakeout happening just now but in longer term, only way is up. Buy the dip
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Whats happening to Dash price this is crazy?
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Hi, I think Brexit confirmed that Bitcoin is de-facto new asset class and is in the same group with Gold - if you look at what Gold is doing (spikes most in 7 years, 27monhts heights) Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-24/gold-spikes-most-7-years-27-month-highs. Just in case you didn't notice - Bitcoin added 100 USD to its value in less than 12 hours (from 575 USD at 18:00 UTC to 675 USD 7:00 UTC the next day - Bitstamp). If you say it's not connected with Brexit I don't buy it.Opinions? There is however, one crucial difference between Gold and Bitcoin. Gold has been stuck in a range between $1200 and $1300 for months. When the Brexit referendum got underway, gold was trading right in the centre of that range. An event (Brexit) then happened that inspired fear in the markets... ...equities tanked ...government bonds tanked ...currencies tanked (against the USD) ...and the USD tanked against Gold. Being a long term holder of gold, this was very reaffirming to see. If I never knew already, this clearly spelt out, what the market is going to do, when it finally loses confidence in 'the system', which it will do one day. Bitcoin on the otherhand, was just on the wrong side of an almighty pump. Arguably, 'The Aussie Auction Pump', or maybe this was indeed 'The Halving Pump', or perhaps only the 'apertif' to the Halving Pump. Bitcoin had already ramped massively, and then taken an almighty fall. Now considering the size of the fall, a bounce of around $100 (50% basically), isn't that disproportionate. With that said, no doubt some of the hysteria driving other markets, rubbed off on Bitcoin...but unlike gold, serious capital is not looking at Bitcoin as a 'safe haven' asset. It just isn't. The Chinese government could tell the miners to switch off 2moro, ffs. Whilst Joe Sixpack might delude himself into thinking that Bitcoin is 'Safe Haven', any serious money that moves into Bitcoin, does so, treating it as a high risk, high potential gain capital venture. I don't disagree I think but maybe have slightly different perspective. Gold market is so much bigger and with more history so will draw in much more capital on shock events like this. Whereas bitcoin is a rising star yet to proove itself. And yet current value shows bitcoin is most definitely a valid asset because it is much higher than zero. Brexit campaign has seen bitcoin rise in value from 500 up to 700 USD then steep correction when it looked like remain would win, this may or may be only partial connected to brexit in reality but perception is there. However my gut instinct tells me these moves are mostly due to a wider picture in which bitcoin has bottomed from the last bubble and technically became undervalued, and also with halving of supply coming up will soon start a new epic speculative bubble. Events such as brexit will only support the forces already underway |
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Thanks for that list Here is information on places where you can spend Dash: |
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Guys, what's wrong with DASH? When BTC started to dump i moved half of my funds to DASH but now it is lower than my enter.
I did similar, though not with as much as that. But yes disappointed in Dash lacklustre price and the fact that I underestimated chances of Brexit actually happening (would have stayed all in bitcoin if I'd had more faith in Brexit). In my opinion Dash needs to be accepted as payment for things. Where can you pay for your VPS with Dash? Where can you buy a T-Shirt with Dash? Its all very well having nice governance and instant transactions but where can I buy stuff? Where is the demand coming from ? |
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If we have more news regarding Scotland an Northern Ireland, and possible Netherland exit, it might drive btc over 900-1k.
Scotland's brainwashed citizens voted remain but its part of the UK as is Northern Ireland who also voted leave. They are both part of the UK so they remain in the UK. I believe the English should demand a referendum for them to decide if they wish to break up the UK, which they should. Scotland and Northern Ireland are bringing them down and nearly tipped the vote in favour of remain. This is very unfair to the English. Scotland's extremist communist government is nothing but a pure hate filled anti English fest. Scotland got its own referendum to leave the Uk last year and lost. The English didn't get a say in the matter, yet the Scots get a say in England's destiny. That should change and the English people should demand it. Scotland showing its true colours. The scottish referendum said. Do you believe Scotland should be an independent country? Independent. Now they say they don't want to be independent really, they want to be ruled by Brussels not London. They don't want to rule themselves. |
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Hi, I think Brexit confirmed that Bitcoin is de-facto new asset class and is in the same group with Gold - if you look at what Gold is doing (spikes most in 7 years, 27monhts heights) Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-24/gold-spikes-most-7-years-27-month-highs. Just in case you didn't notice - Bitcoin added 100 USD to its value in less than 12 hours (from 575 USD at 18:00 UTC to 675 USD 7:00 UTC the next day - Bitstamp). If you say it's not connected with Brexit I don't buy it.Opinions? Yes I agree, bitcoin is like gold but more volatile (and less suppressed). Its been seen before too when Cyprus bailins happened for example. |
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No influence at all.
Fully agree. Why, on Earth any single event in the world that mostly does not know Bitcoin at all, has to have an influence on Bitcoin. More adoption first, then the news and not the other way round. First, global markets are all interconnected, one domino can upset the lot, look at Lehman Bros in 2008. Second bitcoin is acting as a safe haven and has been seen to go up during Cyprus bailins or China capital controls for example. |
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