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381  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] BCDiploma - Geeft uit en slaat op Diploma's (sign campagne start) on: January 20, 2018, 12:31:34 AM
Token sale is succesvol afgerond! 1800ETH hardcap is bereikt!!!
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / WTS GOAL tokens on: January 18, 2018, 05:01:21 PM
Hello I'm selling GOAL tokens for 0.000026 Ethereum each which is the equivalent of 0.027 cents, ICO price was 0.05 Cents. The project is currently developing and looking to list on an exchange. PM me if you are interested, an escrow is a must less you feel confident enough to go first.
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I keep buying lite coin as it drops... on: January 17, 2018, 11:04:00 PM
If you pay for it with BTC you should wait some more time till next phase start... When btc will raise all altcoins can dump even more than now. If you pay with USD - you are really good Smiley

Not sure, we might still see this slightly but even during this massive altcrash BTC dominance hasn't touched 40%. Even now while I'm writing this and the whole market is once again in the green, BTC dominance slipped back down again to 34% from its previous high of 38%.

Seems like BTC is king but its dukes, lords, ministers and mayors are gaining traction in favor of the people(market).
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect Official Shutdown News on: January 17, 2018, 11:01:26 PM
WOW, I looked earlier at it was down to 8, now it is up to 21..... you need to have your head examined if you are buying this after that news

Some people aren't convinced I guess. After all admitting a mistake of something the whole crypto community warned about for days at a time for over a year isn't easy?

385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect crumbles -crash- on: January 17, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
I don't feel bad for ANYONE that threw their money at this scam.  If you took 3 seconds to google before investing, you wouldn't have touched this crap.  And many people knew it was a scam and still were too greedy to avoid it.  Well now those people caused a general market crash affecting all of us.

Market isnt crashing because of BCC, sell offs are usual this time of year, same happens in the stock market. To think that BCC crashing can cause the whole market to crash is giving it to much credit.
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect crumbles -crash- on: January 16, 2018, 11:56:32 PM
Well so far for the notorious ponzi bitconnect, it crashed after repeated cease and desist orders to which it responded by closing down the exchange and lending platform.

Price crashed from mid 200 to 29 dollars, up for a bit in the high 30s.. but I expect to see this at 0 tomorrow

So many Bitconnect threads being posted today. Did you invest in it and get your coins out from it or are you just giving us information on it?

Didnt see any threads and I thought it was worth a thread. But no I didn't put any money into this, I told some people specifically not to put money into it but they didn't listen.

I don't even understand how people can buy such ponzi coin. This is just unbelievable for me. I don't even buy it if I know it will make 100x certainly, because I never spend my money on ponzi things.

People that aren't very smart, but to be fair there have been ponzi's such as the madoff ponzi that involved victims of much larger capital and intelligence such as steven spielberg. Also I think a lot of people we're to obsessed about the money they could make (greed) than to read between the lines and see it for what it is. Scammers get on your greedy side and feed that so you make irrational decisions.
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect crumbles -crash- on: January 16, 2018, 11:31:06 PM
Well so far for the notorious ponzi bitconnect, it crashed after repeated cease and desist orders to which it responded by closing down the exchange and lending platform.

Price crashed from mid 200 to 29 dollars, up for a bit in the high 30s.. but I expect to see this at 0 tomorrow

So many Bitconnect threads being posted today. Did you invest in it and get your coins out from it or are you just giving us information on it?

Didnt see any threads and I thought it was worth a thread. But no I didn't put any money into this, I told some people specifically not to put money into it but they didn't listen.
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I MADE INSANE BANK OFF OF ESPERS AND TRON PUMP AND DUMP IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS. on: January 16, 2018, 11:29:05 PM
I decided to buy 126 million Espers before the new years at 1 sat because I knew they would rise like every other coin did for the new years and I sold them all at 17 sats last week when the pump was at it's peak and now there dumping hard....lol.

I honestly want to thank every person who I made money off of this week and last week.

And no, I do not feel bad for taking advantage of beginners who bought in with no knowledge of anything, lol.

OH, AND THE BEST PART I FORGOT TO MENTION.................THIS WAS RIGHT AFTER I DUMPED MY PUMPED UP TRON COINS AND MADE BANK AS WELL FROM THEM, LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I PURCHASED 2 MILLION TRON COINS AT 30 SATS AND SOLD FOR 1400 SATS WEEK AND HALF AGO.

Can I read the future or am I just that good?Huh





If you didnt force people to buy TRX or somehow lied about it I don't see how you took advantage of anyone. They should have just done their homework. I buy coins aswell that I think will go up but are in my opinion complete trash. If others want to buy it though, thats trade.
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM]BitConnect is shutting down its lending and exchange platform on: January 16, 2018, 11:19:46 PM
This is exactly what many experts and experienced persons in cryptocurrecies had predicted. Finally it came to true.

Anyone could have predicted this, everyone did predict this. No need to be an expert or veteran...
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 5 Reason to invest in BITCONNECT on: January 16, 2018, 11:14:30 PM
It crashed LOL
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Bitconnect crumbles -crash- on: January 16, 2018, 11:10:56 PM
Well so far for the notorious ponzi bitconnect, it crashed after repeated cease and desist orders to which it responded by closing down the exchange and lending platform.

Price crashed from mid 200 to 29 dollars, up for a bit in the high 30s.. but I expect to see this at 0 tomorrow
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any upcoming promising ICOs? on: January 15, 2018, 02:38:18 AM
I've just seen the ad of adbank ICO while searching the internet, visited their website and now I'm regreting that I've missed their ICO. Their website, project and even the promo video look attractive AF but the tokens are already sold. So now I'm trying to find some more ICOs that worth of my investments. Many decent  projects are selling their tokens  in some hours after the tokensale starts so I'm mostly looking for the ICOs that are not yet started. The ANN section of this forum is COMPLETELY overspammed and it will take a long time for me to find some good projects and analyze their whitepapers. So if you know some worthy projects (like ICOs with cool products or just very promising lowcaps) then I will appreciate your advices. Please do not post only links. Try to bring some arguments saying why this one is good or not.
Thanks for reading this topic. Smiley


Adbank wasn't sold out very quickly (few days) some do it under a hour. I personally think BCDiploma is interesting but I read that Cardano is doing the same now with their own blockchain, plus there's competition from IBM and Sony. The fact they use Ethereum, which is congested, makes it even less attractive. They say they have faith in Ethereum working out their scaling issues but I'm not sure.

Licenses and diploma's on the blockchain is a really good idea though. One day you will walk into a job interview with just an internet link.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Beercoin on: January 14, 2018, 12:19:38 PM
Hello everyone,

Sorry for my stupid question.
I got some beercoin but I am wondering what the official website of beercoin.
I searched from a lot of sources but still can't find out.
Anyone can help me with some information about beercoin?
Website, Ann thread, value, etc.

Thank you so much for your considering.

It is an old dead coin I believe, not sure if it was a joke or serious but the value of beercoin would be equal to the value of one pint, and would rise and fall in price in sync with the value of beer. Kind of like those Macron, Trump coins that rise in value when they get support or something...

I suppose someone had a lot and decided to give it away? Or this is a new coin.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are we OK with paid shills? (links inside) on: January 14, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
Aslong as people disclose they are being paid then I'm not concerned, in the end it is a form of marketing even if the word sounds rather negative.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why doge is still alive and growing? on: January 14, 2018, 12:12:57 PM
Well I suppose its growing because people like yourself are still buying it.. you don't know why but you do it anyway.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: KODAK's Business model will damage YOU AND the entire cryptomining community ! on: January 12, 2018, 05:27:56 PM
Kodak's business model is excluding the current cryptomining community that worked so hard to establish this market, this technology and exchanges. Everyone should fight them with everything they have!

Kodak is now positioning itself to be in direct competitors with the current cryptomining community and if other businesses, big corporations follow their example of not using the current cryptominers that are already mining, their purchases of ASIC and GPU miners will dramatically drive up the prices of these miners for the current cryptominers. They will purchase in BULK cryptominers from manufacturers, they will drive up electricity costs, they will make it far more difficult for us, as current miners. They will get any miners first from manufacturers, they will set up deals first, the vision of Satoshi Nakamoto to build this technology on people that work from their homes, which includes the middle class, poor etc. they will never reap the benefits if the entire world's big businesses try to get their own coins listed and use their own miners.

So we need to make sure that these "corporate coins" ARE NOT LISTED on exchanges unless the current world wide cryptomining community that exists is involved in the mining of these coins. So if you have influence with exchanges, within the Bitcoin community, within the mining community, we need blockchain to drive the world economy, for everyone in the street, not only for the current elite that has 1000x times our own cash reserves and credit lines. They are going to drive up the prices of all miners including electricity costs. Everything. Make everything difficult for us. We need to contact the exchanges and demand that these corporate coins INCLUDE the current cryptomining community in their solution, otherwise they are not listed.

This is critical, if we don't fight now, other companies are going to follow the example set by Kodak Coin and exclude us all. We need act together to prevent this.


''Not using the current cryptominers that are already mining''? Not sure what you mean by that but the current mining industry is already incredibly hard to compete with if you're ''poor''. I understand the concerns but this is still a free market, excluding these companies isn't really an option I think. I'm also not sure what you mean with ''corporate coins'' there are tons of ''corporate coins'' on the market, what the hell do you think you've been purchasing here?
397  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the best real use-cases of Crypto coins on: January 12, 2018, 05:17:30 PM
Hi,

Recently a lot of people asked me to help them join crypto.
But then, their second affirmation is: "hmm...but aren't we in a bubble? all this shitcoins and shitICOs that won't deliver and anyways, for what is it used event BTC? Only for storing value? That's it? People are buying and keeping it?"

In this regards, let's all contribute and mention real-life use-cases when you have used or would use crypto coins as the only/best way of solving that problem.

BTC is a P2P electronic cash system for which it currently isn't really suitable, Lightning Network should bring that back. On top of that it is a store of value, a sort of digital gold.

That ICOs aren't delivering on their promises isn't really BTC's fault. You should always be very carefull with ICOs, they are high risk. Perhaps the most high risk ''investments'' we have ever witnessed in history.

A lot of coins are in a bubble, most notable are:

IOTA - centralised, doesn't function and is worth billions.
Ripple - Centralised, doesn't actually get used by banks (nor do they intent to) and is worth a hundred billion
TRON  seems to be in a bubble
Bitconnect - ponzi

Likely, almost all altcoins are in a bubble. Bubbles aren't necessarily a bad thing though, the stock market moves in and out of them on a cyclic basis. You just have to be carefull.

And there are a lot more that are currently way overvalued. I think BTC isn't really under or overvalued where it currently stands as without lightning network it doesn't really function properly but still stands out from the rest of the market as a store of value with great longterm upside potential.

I personally do use BTC ocasionally for payments but recently I refrain from doing so because it doesn't make sense to purchase some take-away and pay a 10$ fee on a 20-30$ transaction.

Distributed ledger technology can also be usefull as a means of security, track & trace, logistics, supply chain etc.. the tokens are often a utility. The biggest usecase of DBT is as a currency but it has many usecases that can be applied to almost any industry.

You got to understand that yes, somethings are in a bubble. IOTA having a 10billion marketcap is in no way justified at all. Same goes for Ripple, TRON, Bitconnect and other crypto's.

But the real longterm focus is on BTC anyway, which to me isn't in a bubble nor does it even come close to being in a bubble. But that is only if we regard that future development will go smooth and solve issues of today.

Also I think you don't understand the importance of a store of value. In the western world we're kind of used to minor inflations each year and our paycheck grows with that but other less developed countries can't always count on this. Bitcoin makes a perfect store of value because it is weightless and thus easy to transport, not controlled by anyone, can be stored upon a small USB stick which you could hide anywhere unlike gold for example. And is easy to transact with. The fact that it is also deflationary as opposed to gold being inflationary makes it even better, it will retain and go up in value on the longterm as it is scarce and the supply is capped at a max. Gold will be worthless in a few hundred years from now because we already know that things like asteroids contain tenfolds, hundredfolds more precious metals than we have here on earth. (maybe we have identified our next major bubble, astro mining).

So for a lot of people Bitcoin can be essential.

Bitcoin is simple, it doesn't need a million usecases. You just need to be able to transact with it as a fundamental and naturally it is a store of value. No other coin will ever really achieve a status like BTC because it is a first mover, is widely accepted and regarded as THE COIN. I can only see BitcoinCash being a viable alternative for the solutions it currently offers that aren't available with Bitcoin.

Bitcoin should be able to reach a marketcap of several trillions of dollars, if it does decide to collapse now there's still a chance it grows beyond its ATH as we have seen with Apple and Amazon for example. But likely it will have to break 1 trillion marketcap for it to be taken seriously on an institutional level. If it can't grow into a trillion dollar asset class then the whole thing basically failed, but this last sentence is my personal opinion.

I agree with all that you've said.

Also, Ethereum has the main use-case -> it allowed the birth of ICOs.

Ethereum has smart contracts but again same as with BTC we're expecting that smart contracts can be implemented in the future for real world scenario's.. not just a way for ICO's to quickly deliver tokens to your address. Smart contracts are a big innovation that can be applied to any industry but for such a thing to happen there has to be a way to connect the dots of data. ChainLink seems to want to solve that problem, it could become very valuable, if it fails though and no other solution is found then Ethereum will likely depreciate by a lot to the point of becoming near worthless.

So again, we're relying on future developments for us to remain bullish, if it can't implement smart contracts on a real world basis then Ethereum is worthless.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Regulation of privacy coins on: January 12, 2018, 03:39:10 PM
I was wondering about something.

I think no-one has any doubts that governments at some point will try to strong-arm cryptocurrencies (cc) with regulations and bans. If we talk about the issue with lack of taxation on cc's, are privacy coins not likely to be targeted the hardest of all? I hold a variety of privacy coins, (monero, xspec, DO, Zero etc.) myself. But which value will they represent, if the only place I can use them is for shady business? (Let's face it, im no criminal  Cheesy)

I love my privacy, but there is no doubt that the long term plan for me is to convert my investments to fiat when I reach my pre-defined investment goal.

Thoughts?

Well privacy goes beyond crime. If you spend money than thats data for someone to consume and draw patterns as to how you behave financially, they could then exploit this knowledge to their own benefit and not to the best interest of yourself, the spender. If governments do wage war on privacy coins than that will only lead to privacy coins innovating and weed the bad ones from the real winners, if a government decides to do this its in the best interest of privacy coins. Some of the biggest technological advancements are made during war, why? Because you have to in order to win that war.

I think a lot of people think the same like you, but I also think that a lot of people who say this now won't in a few years when they have actually met those goals. Crypto is slowly becoming more normal and accepted. Why trade in your deflating assets for inflatory fiat, you're going to spend that fiat, so you might aswell keep your money in crypto's like BTC, Dash, Ethereum, Monero and others to spend your money with and come out financially healthier than you would cashing it out for worthless pieces of paper.

Say you cash out 100$ and decide to spend that on new shoes, the shoes cost 80$ you are left with 20$ that inflates rougly 1,6% per year. After 10 years your 20$ will be worth:
17$
Now lets say you do the same with BTC but unlike fiat BTC deflates 2,6% per year, that same 20$ in BTC would be worth: $25,80 - fiat inflation = $22,00

(I hope I got the math right, someone correct me if I'm wrong, else there's no point in this)

Thats with a small amount of money, over the course of 10 years. Now imagine you have 100x or 1000x that money or maybe even 10.000x ($20,000-20,000,000$) thats a significant portion of wealth you're just throwing away. You're all still conditioned by your paper currencies, myself aswell.

My point is though, if you can remain bullish on these assets long term, there's no real logic in cashing out, you're way better of using your crypto as payment method.


Also I wouldn't mind a little financial privacy, currently a bank knows everything you do and could freeze your account on a mere hunch or suspicion. Do you really want to give such power away? Bitcoin can be chain analysed and since there's no actuall proof of what's purchased, we could see governments making false claims? Bully people who are innocent? It wouldn't be the first time something like that happens. You can't trust anybody, so privacy is very important but ofcourse we're constantly fed the same phrase:

''If you got nothing to hide, you got nothing to fear'' which is such a bullshit argument.
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: They regret because they did not believe my post on: January 12, 2018, 03:27:04 PM
For BLUE already done price now $1.12

Next is ECASH, price now $0.04

Then next is NEO GOLD, price now $0.01

I remember this when they did not believe and now lost the opportunity

Here is the link of that history
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2709785

Blue really does something, NEO GOLD and ECASH both sound like scams that don't add any value. I must agree though, I got told to buy BLUE at 0.01 cents but forgot. I should start making notes cause I forget to much...

Value of ECASH now at $1.17
NEO GOLD at $0.019

Well congratulations on making a big profit but this rise hints more in a direction of PnD than a sustainable future price.
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My Korean Theory with no proof whatsoever on: January 12, 2018, 03:25:28 PM
My theory is that the Korean Gov't said they would ban crypto so that their special interest groups could buy in at a discount after missing out on all these gains. I think that the korean Gov't eventually will back down to a certain extent.

thats it for my conspiracy theory of the day

edit: i think the Korean market will come back stronger than ever before

It isn't exactly a bad theory even though it has 0 evidence. I think it was Decentralised TV (youtube channel) that pointed out that from a study was concluded that 1/3 of Korean working class is balls deep in crypto. It would not only be economicall suicide to ban crypto, it would become a ''black saturday/sunday'' in the history of Korea as thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people commit suicide cause they can't bear the losses.

But they could threaten with it to cause a depression in prices briefly so they have an opportunity to step in. I really can't see such a decision actually being made, plus the general population, if 1/3 is invested would be outraged and maybe even riot and throw over the government of S-Korea. The consequences of such a ban is interesting to think about though when such a larger number of the populace is invested so deep.

I think they're taxing it now, but honestly. If I we're in government, I would probably take a similar stand as Belarus and not tax crypto as your population can only benefit from it on the longer term. Crypto right now as it is still has amazing upside potential, a population that isn't very rich compared to European countries for example could benefit enermously from it.
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