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401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 08, 2015, 07:33:24 PM
Sorry for newbie question: Moneroj is the (official?) plural for the term Monero, right?

So Moneroj is the term/word, we should(?) use to mean/describe multiple XMR coins?

Is there an alternative? Maybe Moneros?

I think marketing and explaining Moneroj, will turn out rather difficult. The general public is not used to build plurals with a J (Esperanto-style.)
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 08, 2015, 07:00:36 PM
kinda similar page on moneroeconomy.com

https://moneroeconomy.com/openbazaar

And "working coin as transaction currency". - it works. I've transacted.
It's full of spelling errors. Who runs this page?
I want to contribute by correcting some of them.
403  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Deutsche NEM Community on: March 08, 2015, 06:36:30 PM
mixmaster, Du bist ein guter Typ und Poster. Mach weiter so.

Gibt nur, sehr, sehr, sehr wenige Altcoins, die jemand deutsches haben der sich wirklich auskennt.

Ich kenn noch 4 andere Coins:

- Ripple (Sukrim)
- DarkCoin (vertoe & Aswan)
- SlimCoin (d5000)
- Monero (othe)
404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Satoshi make any comments about the initial 'imbalance' of Bitcoin wealth? on: March 08, 2015, 05:01:16 PM
Your comment is insulting and stupid.

"Work hardest" .... HAW HAW HAW
405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Hehehe. Great posting, thelibertycap. Nice wording.
406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 08, 2015, 03:31:08 PM
onemorexmr: I have no good idea now. But I write your name down, I will forward meaningful ideas to you, when they pop up.

In general: Once again, we need board/portal/site/thread for project development. We people can advertise their skill sets, background and interest fields. So people creating XMR projects could cooperate, hire each other or form projects/startups together.

Like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0

Maybe rename https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas to "Project Development" or add subforum for people to advertise their interest in buidling Monero projects/services.
407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 08, 2015, 03:17:41 PM
i'd love to see something like just-dice from someone trusted.
sadly my country forbids me to make it (or use it)
Fuck gambling. Create something useful to the general public with Monero. Alot of people would be happy to help you.
408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 08, 2015, 03:13:41 PM
What about first building a working coin as transaction currency? Versus fantasizing of creating Monero based assets that pay lifetime(?) "passive income" without doing anything.

And in general I cant think of a way how on-chain assets that pay passive income can/could be fairly implemented without creating massive unfairness and overreach benefits for early adopters.

Bitcoin suffers enough from its unfairness. We should not create a similar situation.
409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: March 08, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Ok, tnx.
410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: March 08, 2015, 01:57:36 PM
The PoW-stage is over, right?
411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Satoshi make any comments about the initial 'imbalance' of Bitcoin wealth? on: March 08, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
he was quite happy with it as he told early members that they would all be rich
Source?
412  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: 2015 - Die Zukunft des Bitcoin ?!? on: March 08, 2015, 12:44:33 PM
So lange ich atme, trete ich ein für Gerechtigkeit und Fairness.

Zur Verdeutlichung der Wichtigkeit der Thematik hier nochmal eine Auswahl von Zitaten:

if satoshi gave a shit about any sort of fair distribution of bitcoin he wouldn't have singlehandedly mined 1,000,000 of the existing 14,000,000 / 21,000,000 eventual supply ... or setup the payout schedule to be so utterly rapid in the early stages where millions upon millions of coins were able to be mined by a couple dozen to a few hundred individuals before public awareness would have reasonably been possible or expected to occur ... he would have set the payout schedule at a lower rate and increased it over time (reverse equation payout schedule of how it is setup) , as opposed to having it payout huge in the beginning and decreasing over time ... which , obviously , would have been more fair for everyone ... since it would allow for greater supply to be produced as more people became aware of it , rather than less and less supply available vs. the early days ... essentially bitcoin payout was designed to be as unfair as possible in terms of imbalance ...

if he wanted to actually create an egalitarian currency of the people and wanted it to be as widely distributed and as fairly distributed as possible ... it would have been possible to ... for example ... just using a simplified number ... make the initial blocks worth 1 btc per 10 minute block and have that double , rather than halve , every 2 years until reaching a certain cutoff point to accomplish the same number of total coins and assuring a much fairer distribution in the process ... with this example this would have allowed for 6 coins per hour , 144 coins per day , and 52,560 coins per year produced for a total of 105,120 in the first 2 years , 210,240 produced in the next 2 years , 420,480 produced in the next 2 years , etc etc ... that would have allowed for today there be less than 1 million coins in existence with the remaining 20 million still yet to be mined and at a predictable rate and with the same total number of coins (more or less , depending on the cutoff point chosen and programmed into the software) ... it would also allowed for all of the coins to be created a helluva lot sooner than 2140 or whatever it's supposed to be for all of them to come into existence as in within our lifetimes ... how it was setup was instead 300 coins per hour , 7200 coins per day , 2,628,000 coins per year at the start ... which seems like a fair distribution method allowing for public awareness and evenly distributed coins ? ... 52,560 produced at the start per year or 2,628,000 produced at the start per year ? ... he knew exactly what he was doing in terms of assuring imbalance ... and since it was supposedly an experiment and they were valued so low / at zero value , what would have been the harm doing it that fairer way ? ... initial value argument is irrelevant flawed logic in terms of distribution imbalance ...

oh bbbbut ... bitcoin ... global currency ... yeah ... 1000 people with 1/4 of all wealth makes a lot better sense than 70,000,000 people with 1/2 of all wealth ... bitcoin is literally , and i mean math literally , 35000X worse distributed than current global fiat wealth in terms of earth's population ... 35000X worse than the "unfair" disparity that already exists between the world's wealthy and all those rest of the peoples of earth ... it seems totally right to me that the wealthy elite multibillionaires of this world should instead be 35000X more wealthy than they already are vs starving people ... sign me up ... global adoption here we come !

assuming that the world's wealthy hold most , let's say 90%+ of their "wealth" in physical assets such as real estate office buildings %s of companies represented as stocks private jets and rare cars , and the world's rest of the population is at best 1/2 and 1/2 between assets and currency held ... it's very clear that the distribution of btc the currency vs distribution of fiat currencies is actually even far worse than distribution of btc currency vs global wealth , percentage wise ... i tried looking online for the percentages of currency held by people but can only find it stated in terms of wealth , which of course includes physical assets ... but let's just use 1/2 currency 1/2 asset for the bulk of the global population who hold half of the worlds wealth and 10:1 as the ratio for currency held vs assets of the world's wealthy elite who have the other half ... then you can multiply the disparity in the btc system vs the disparity of the global fiat currency system as not 35000X worse (which would include all physical assets) ... but instead multiply that by what ? 5X even worse ... so btc is *175,000X worse distributed than the fiat currency of the earth's population ? (not counting physical assets) ... my god ...

...
People need to understand what exactly it is that they're supporting when they're supporting bitcoin: a "currency" system that is orders of magnitude worse than the already extreme wealth disparity on earth.

It's a currency system that , with *conservative* estimates I made , is 35000X less egalitarian than the existing global wealth disparity , and 175000X less egalitarian than the existing global fiat currency distribution.

I do not see how anyone can ethically support such a thing.

I absolutely do stand to benefit from an increased price of bitcoin , as I do hold a quantity of them , and far greater than 0.003 , and have profited from the existence of bitcoin.

...

And I don't think pointing out the extreme disparity of distribution in bitcoin vs existing wealth structures is wrong - it's honest.



Da wurde doch eigentlich schon alles gesagt,
nur wurde das von der "Unfair"-Fraktion nicht verstanden, oder einfach ignoriert.
Diese Aussage ist eine unverschämte Frechheit. Das ist eine Beleidigung aller Bitcoin-Community-Mitglieder, die nicht wie Du zufällig im Lotto gewonnen haben.


Fakt ist: als ich (~März) 2010 mit Bitcoin angefangen hab, waren Bitcoins nichts (weniger als 1cent) wert.
Die 50BTC/Block, die man mit der CPU generieren konte, waren weniger wert, als der Strom, den die CPU dafür verbraucht hat,
Mining war demnach nicht profitabel und niemand wusste, ob sich das jemals ändert.
Deine persönliche Geschichte ist uns allen völlig egal. (Wir haben diese sowieso schon ein tausend mal gehört.) Sie ändert nichts an den harten Fakten.
Du kannst hier keine Geschichtsklitterung betreiben. Du hast damals nichts geleitest, Du warst nur zufällig zur richtigen Zeit am richtigen Ort.
413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 08, 2015, 11:17:21 AM
Monero was much better before rpietila get in. Now is he's playground. That suck.
Wat?!?!? You mean the first 37 days, back in 2014? You must be trolling.
Monero was launched 18 April 2014, rpietila got involed 25 May 2014 with his Altcoin Observer thread and a clear recommondation for Monero.

414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 08, 2015, 11:07:50 AM
Thank you jehst.
415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 08, 2015, 11:00:06 AM
Can we have something like: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Development_schedule?
416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 08, 2015, 10:48:07 AM
Luke-Jr is an outsider with extreme opinions and has not much following inside the BTC community.
He is also an Bitcoin maximalists or as other people call that: "One World Order"-Bitcoiner.

Point II is not worth discussing.
417  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: March 08, 2015, 10:31:26 AM
Jo, für Draper (und seine Firma/Investoren/Kunden) würden es sich besonderes lohnen, um seinen Cost Average zu senken.
Zu mal die Situation (stabiler bis steigender Kurs die letzten 2-3 Wochen) gerade dafür auch gut ist, bekanntlich soll man ja nicht/niemals (cost) averagen, bei fallenden Kursen.
418  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [Sammlung] Best of Altcoin-Content on: March 08, 2015, 09:27:18 AM
http://prestonbyrne.com/

Wundervoller Blog. Artikelauswahl:

http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/
http://prestonbyrne.com/2015/03/06/a-central-bank-cryptocurrency-an-interesting-idea-but-maybe-not-for-the-reason-we-think/
http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/09/bubble-trouble/
http://prestonbyrne.com/2015/02/25/for-bitcoin-to-get-mass-adoption-in-underbanked-it-has-to-be-more-like-m-pesa/
419  Local / Projektentwicklung / Re: Fullnode auf Raspberry Pi 2 on: March 08, 2015, 09:14:06 AM
Ich arbeite in einem NOC bei Kabel Deutschland (ja, fuck my life), ich kann euch morgen sagen, wie der Bitcoin P2P-Traffic gezählt wird.


Wegen CPU-Auslastung, stell einfach die Anzahl der maximalen Verbindungen runter (maxconnections=7 oder so).
420  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: .oOo. Allgemeiner Talk-Thread 2015 .oOo. on: March 08, 2015, 09:10:51 AM
How DigiCash Blew Everything

http://cryptome.org/jya/digicrash.htm

Sehr lesenwerter Artikel zu David Chaum und der Geschichte von Digicash (eine der wenigen Crypto Currencies vor Bitcoin).
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