I am. But i'm almost not the one stuck in his box, throwing a tantrum on forums. I gave you your answer regarding the GPUs and windows. Are you done?
you did not give an answer. you think you answered a question but its something I wasn't asking and already knew the answer to. I had a question for adaseb regarding mining eth, not if a card works on windows. had you read in chronological order you would notice that. you don't have this card so why are you even commenting on something you know nothing about. I have sold over 1000 cards in the last 20 years from 16mhz days to today so I would not turn to a bitcoin forum to ask the forum troll if the most popular card works under the most popular OS. Ok. |
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I adjusted the price of the Neptune. Had no idea what they cost.
I can show calculations with electricity in mind but what would be the criteria? Since everybody pays different amounts of electricity.?
For example, say with 0.10 kwh and mine until no longer profitable?
You could list typical watt consumption of the unit, that way people can do *24*30 themselves. |
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So I just bought a surplus DPS-1200FB and I noticed the fan is VERY loud, is this normal, or does it need a fan replacement? I posted here bc it's bitcoin mining related and I know a decent amount of people here have them. Thanks!
Most of the server PSU's are pretty loud. They have become popular due to you can get a better price going server vs atx at this point. With surplus think of data centers that did not really care about sound. So good psu yes (depending on condition). But something for those home mining... no in a lot of cases. Do you think replacing the fan would work/ be safe? I'd be using something nice like a Noctua NF-A4x10. Don't do that because it might not provide enough airflow and melt The side mounted 120mm sanyo/scythe/delta mod might work here? By no mean would it be quiet but it would be a less high pitched noise? |
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Better yet, go read the "Community miner" thread and learn a bit about the issues an EXPERIENCED third-party miner designer (Sidehack of Gekko fame) has had with trying to get current or even near-current chips out of ANY of the manufacturers.
Yeah I already followed that thread  Really fucked up situation. Link? Or preferably, care to summarize what happened that was so messed up? I never knew about any of this trouble he ran in to (but didn't follow him that early on) To summarise, Sidehack made the sidehack stick, he has had for a long time the interest in making a board type asic miner for home miners. Since BM1384 he has been trying to get any of the companies to sell him chips, but even though he has some funding, he has not been able to get anything, pretty much. BM1384 is two gen old now, so its been a while. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995675.2220 |
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Just to cover another base, check and make sure none of your heatsinks shook loose.. i notice in your pictures that one chain runs hotter than the others.
You said it stays around 62 to 68ish but after running for 2 minutes the last chain is already at 73. Not ruling out the psu but it could be worth looking at..
Yeah now that you bring that up, I am noticing on that first picture I sent that last chain is in the 70's while the others were at 32 when the miner was "idle". Which begs the question.. what is the PSU? Its the bitmain PSU so would be a APW3-12-1600 of some sort. That is correct. I am using the BITMAIN PSU and it has been working just fine the last 30 days since I got it.
I have another one set up right next to it, no problems with that one.
OP do you have a second psu you can switch it out with? Gussing probley not. What is voltage of electricity going into it? Just checking on it. Good job on paying attention. I'm thinking the PSU would not work at all on 120v. I guess using a multimeter would tell for real, if the PSU went bad. |
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Should probably mention the S9's coming date is like next door.
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Just to cover another base, check and make sure none of your heatsinks shook loose.. i notice in your pictures that one chain runs hotter than the others.
You said it stays around 62 to 68ish but after running for 2 minutes the last chain is already at 73. Not ruling out the psu but it could be worth looking at..
Yeah now that you bring that up, I am noticing on that first picture I sent that last chain is in the 70's while the others were at 32 when the miner was "idle". Which begs the question.. what is the PSU? |
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Ill give it a shot, I'm remote at the moment.
You can change the clock remotely. |
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Try what i said, then. Look more and more like a PSU issue. |
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I understand that and I was not speaking on any random GPU coin. I was talking about ETH because it is the flavor of the month and people are seeing $$$. I was just pointing out that ETH mining is unsustainable. You can always go back to X11 mining and make money but with much smaller margins.
Well sure, but ASIC is also unsustainable, you need to keep upgrading and or have extremely low electric costs. The difference is if shit happens, the GPUs are still worth something. Meanwhile S7's are now cheaper than the S5's were months ago. The only thing is ROI% at the end of the year to me, everything else seem moot to me. Having both ASIC and GPU, its pretty easy for me to compare. Overall it seem GPU is always more $/W. But often more $/Hash. Also the GPUs i bought 250$ in 2014 still sell for 200$~ |
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You all realize that ETH is shifting from PoW to PoS when Serenity drops right? Its not like you will be able to mine ETH for years so comparing it to mining BTC in the long run seems kind of silly.
Its not silly, when you get to ROI 500% before then vs not break even for ASIC. Also GPU != Eth. There is other very profitable options out there. |
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I agree on all of this, I still believe this is short term guessing.
Somewhat. You could say that maybe GPU mining as a whole will drop in value drastically. Putting aside that this could happen with BTC as well, i'm basing my feelings on the matter with the halving. Basically, the S7 at the moment is not so great and once the halving hit, the S9 and similar will be as good as the S7 now. Maybe biased, but we'll see. Some people think that BTC will skyrocket to match, but i dont think so. I think the price already adjusted to the upcoming halving and will slowly follow the overall mean. I'm betting that it will happen pretty much like the first halving. Probably nothing world shattering. Meanwhile, whats going on with GPU at the moment feel like the Scrypt gold rush, but more stable, and much more ASIC resistant, so we'll see. |
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Here is the SS  You have clear and massive ASIC failure, try underclocking to 500mhz. Then completely power cycle your PSU, also unplug the PCI-e for a minute, then replug everything. Hopefully its just a poor PSU and the S7 remain in good condition. |
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Why do you stop yourself at one frame of an entire movie ?
My trust is in Bitcoin, not the altcoin.
We shall see in future what ETH will do but those kind of comparisons based on speculation and this title is pretty much a joke.
If you don't want to mine Bitcoin anymore why don't you move your irony in the Alt coins section ?
For now ETH mining is great, will it last long or do better in the long term then BTC ?
That's the real question you have to ask yourself.
Well I think it is best to have a finger in two different pies.. I agree on your point, my post was a direct reply to the OP. You can do the math without Eth, for instance you could do the math on Lyra, or X11. The numbers get tighters, but if you want, you can compare to the the current S7, for there be no speculation, then, and the Antminer is still not only behind on profitability, but also on power efficiency... and noise i suppose. Now assuming the S9 to have twice better effiency at double the price, the numbers are still bad and its not a speculative only thing, its simple deduction. Unless you expect the S9 to sell for less than the S7. |
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Yep, the S9's specs is purely speculative right now but even in the best case scenario, ASIC is not doing too well for us unprivileged tiny end user miners.
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I think you will fare better if you joined a mining pool like kano.is instead of solo mining...
Ah, I see. Slight misconception here. I'm not actually SOLO mining, but almost - using the lotto pool sites, like ... solo.nicehash.com and ckpool, which appears to be also kano.it ?? I have a mining pool set up in fallback. In the config, the third one, the Second one is another lotto pool .. Ever hopeful I am :-) [2016-05-17 15:42:00] Testing pool stratum+tcp://de.ckpool.org:3333
[2016-05-17 15:42:00] Testing pool stratum+tcp://stratum.solo.nicehash.com:3334
[2016-05-17 15:42:00] Testing pool stratum+tcp://eu.stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 And I don't mind letting it run. Its costing me nothing in time and electricity, because it's on the web and mail server, which is on all the time anyway. So it's basically set and forget. I have a Toshiba Laptop on the network as well, running Bitcoin Miner, and racking up Sartoshis. Making that sucker work... but it's making me about a cent a day. Wealth and riches here I come. I'll swap that out for a basic PC one day soon, before it kills the Laptop. The poor old Laptop is really struggling, but its as old as the hills and still cracking on. Bonus. I think you're doing it right. You understand that you are mining at a loss, but who knows, you could "win the lottery". Solo ck pool is the way to go. Kano.is run on the (almost?) same backend as solo ck pool, they mingle together quite a bit. But anyways Kano.is is running ck pool, hence the similarity. |
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Thanks guys!
My wallet is filled up from mining with transfers twice a day, so it is a scenario i'll have to deal with. I'll probably move over to Electrum.
Thanks again for your time, info and advice.
If you receive less payouts, you will have to pay less. Its not wallet related. Each BTC input = 1 transaction when you send them out. Even if you take all these input and ouput it in one big transaction. |
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Very interesting I wonder what if anything ever happened with the U4 does anybody know. When I started mining I started on the U3 and I always have hoped for a U4 but I've heard nothing about it.
The same thing that happened on the S6 and S8 i believe. I don't know if Bitmain plan on doing any other small miners again, but it would be nice. My absolute best IMO is the S3. Some S3 with S9 chips would be sooo nice. |
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For a second here i thought this was a reply in my thread  I been getting my risers from China. Save about 50-70% from the going rate here. Perhaps something to look into if you plan 3-5 weeks ahead. |
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Is there some kind of april fool-like equivalent thing in China or something? This is silly as hell. o.O
works for cheap power guy that wants a quieter miner. but so does unplugging a board on a real s-7 then down clock the two left from freq 700 to freq 500 Hmm. I think for a cheap power guy that wants a quiet miner, you'd want a severely undervolted version and not those fans. When i looked at the price, i told myself: "I dont see any upside, if i was to throw money away, i'd buy a S7 and underclock that, which would give better results, I think." On the small amount of "free" electricity i have, i have been running my now obsolete S3/S5 on silent or aftermarket fans. I don't know maybe this fill a niche somewhere and i just don't see it. |
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