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4541  Economy / Economics / Re: A breakthrough in thermonuclear fusion technology! End of the era of hydrocarbon on: December 29, 2022, 04:11:07 PM
they cant legislate plastics out of the single-use industry as it would just leave stock piles of sludge at the refineries.

its the single use industry that was established to give purpose to sheer amount of sludge by-product of refineries..

in short you cant poop in a toilet and then ban fertilisers because otherwise your just left with a pile of poop at the sewerage plant that then feeds back to your toilet and overflows onto your nice bathroom tiles

unless you can find a new use of poop. the only options are to continue using poop as a fertiliser while reducing how much poop is flushed by finding new tech ways to deal with bowel movement

..
until a country can ramp up demand for long-use plastic to cover the sludge supply. the single-use industry would always be needed

.. they are however trying to find alternative tech to power vehicles to reduce the oil demand to then reduce the sludge that needs to be made into single use. but thats a 40 year goal.

whereby the hope is reducing oil ned by 90% extents oil reserves from 40 years to 400 years. where the sludge by--product meets the 10% demand of long life plastics.. (thats the hope)

yep i said it hydro carbons are not going to end. there would still be oils converted to fuels and plastics. the idea is to bring it down to like 10% and then offset that by having more then 90% renewable energy and carbon sequestration
4542  Economy / Economics / Re: U.S. National Debt Ceiling on: December 29, 2022, 03:21:58 PM
If the u.s were to default on its debts, it would have serious consequences for the contry and the global economy.a default would involve the government failing to make timely payment on its debt obligations, such as treasury bonds.this could lead to a loss of confidence in the government's ability to manage its finances and pay its debts, which could result in higher interest rates and increased borrowing costs for the government in the future it’s  important for the government to address the debt ceiling issue in a timely manner in order to avoid these negative consequences.it will be important for congress to come to an agreement on how to address the debt ceiling and avoid a default or a credit rating downgrade!!
HA i laugh

if they default the fear in the quote above is....... .. ..increased interest on future loans..pfft

its funny because governments and THEIR bank actually want the interest rates to rise to counter inflation caused by the commercial banks.
the penalty is not a penalty when its the economic plan of the future

even funnier part is the US own BoA they can set their own interest rates on the loan between BoA and treasury

when you print your own money you also get to control the repayment plan and also the interest rate of future loans

doing a credit check on yourself means nothing because are the creditor

politicians know this. they do personal loans to themselves not only to escape tax on the income they pass from their side hustle business to themselves but also because they are the creditor they never need to repay

taking money out your left pocket to put in your right pocket becomes meaningless fear because its just putting the same money into the same pair of trousers
4543  Economy / Economics / Re: People have learned about money printing on: December 29, 2022, 02:22:28 PM
you make so many topics about how central banks have stopped printing money..

they have not. they just reduced how much money they print

banks still create mortgages for people, so printing is still occurring.
just not to the extent of the QE level of 2020-2021
4544  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: December 29, 2022, 02:14:06 PM
it seems the whale chart is trying to suggest he wants to short the market of his 132k coins and put a buy in to create 182k

which basic math suggests
sell at $16.5k =$2.178b
which would need a buy in at the rate of ~$12k/btc to yield 182k coin

its a bit late to be playing games to suggest influencers are going short.
everyone knows this is the era of going long.
4545  Economy / Economics / Re: U.S. National Debt Ceiling on: December 29, 2022, 01:54:57 PM
In theory, no, but in practice, this has happened several times in history. They will raise the "ceiling" at some point, but such times are ideal for settling scores between the two parties.
What scares me is that they are reaching the limit so quickly. I expect that we will reach a stage where the ceiling is raised annually.

if you have a visa credit card debt of $25,000
and you pay it off with a mastercard credit card which sets you up to in future have a debt of $31,000
did you effectively pay off the debt.. nope you paid A debt by creating another debt
you are still in debt so debt is not paid off. its just reclassified as... yep debt

what you will find out is that..
since the second world war( the first ATH of debt) most of that got repaid due to the debt incured being used to help out the likes of the UK where the UK then paid back to the US allowing the us to repay its loan.

however using US debt creation to pay for US domestic things. has not had the same ability to later repay the debt.

since 2000 there has not really been any debt reduction schemes to bring the debt down. instead its just toned down how much new debt to borrow at times when it doesnt need more debt. but still they created more debt at other times to pay off older debt thats coming close to its expiry date
4546  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin payment laundering in order to avoid taxation on: December 29, 2022, 01:07:26 PM
if you are not well versed in the methods of legal tax avoidance, either find an accountant or dont take the risk

because if you dont follow the loopholes that allow tax avoidance legally, you are then doing tax evasion which come with stiff penalties far beyond what you can save(if you are discussing amounts under $1k)
4547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MicroStrategy Sells Off Bitcoin on: December 29, 2022, 12:59:04 PM
oh leg-end. you might wanna try harder

these large companies do day trading where even at the per second rate one trade can rebalance another trade.

if you think a company has to wait 30 days before doing any negative trading to rebalance positive trading. you really need to start to look into the rules better.

what a company does which affects their capital gains is different than what an individual investor does that affects their income tax.

different rules apply
4548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin decimals. Is 1.00000000 Bitcoin the same as 1.000000000000 Bitcoin? on: December 29, 2022, 12:30:27 PM
oeleo
i do read what you write and i have seen tactics many times, you are not new,..  you many times have subtle hints of mentioning thing in a way that has two meaning so that you can play ping pong games to irritate people and then recruit idiots to believe the other narrative you and your buddies try MANY times to push, while trying to play inocent about not pushing it by reciting other parts of the same paragraphs where you hint at the opposite. just so you can be wishy washy and hide from your narrative

you have many times been subtly pushing that satoshi and the community dont care about adding units because i know your buddies want to break bitcoin further to make it emulate LN. you have tried it before your crew of malcontents have also at times tried to change the meaning of what a full node is your crew have tried to say that pruning is safe to do and pretend it still protects the network and still distributes the ledger and all that crap, when pruning does not help distribute the ledger nor allow peers to seed from a pruned node for IBD, and other things.

your chums of malcontents do not understand consent and abstinence in regards to consensus. heck you lot are trying to redefine consensus to say that abstinence is consent, where you lot also think vetoing a feature is evil and not consenting is evil while thinking that ignoring non-consent and abstinence is something that should be allowed.. pretending both non consent and abstinence are equal to consent means performing an act on the community should still go forward even without majority readiness to even validate a new rule..

your crew love things that hinder bitcoin scaling and you hate people that want onchain scaling, pretending no one wants it bar one person is absolutely stupid narrative played.. you lot are soo narrow minded stuck in trying to break bitcoin just to populate your crummy sub network that you cant even see that bitcoiners want bitcoin to remain secure. you think everyone wants to break bitcoin and move to your crummy network so you continue these ping pong games of promoting that breaking bitcoin can happen without harm when it literally requires breaking bitcoin(harm) to do so.

you pretend sometimes your on the side of bitcoin by ending a paragraph to sound like your all for protecting bitcoin but you start paragraphs with you hinting that it can be broke easily without controversy.

oh and if you are going to now suggest that im wrong because [insert any excuse] to try distancing yourself from your chummy narrative of malcontents and say that you are not like them or you dont believe in their narrative.. atleast stop sounding like them first by avoiding copying their narrative, then maybe one day i wont keep mentioning you in the same regard as them


mnow i dare you to actually go and look at a raw transaction get the real binary data, and then see what that transaction value becomes if you changed a rule where the hard data subunit of a 50btc coin reward from 2009 was represented in your dream delusion of a LN emulating 11 decimal system

ill give you a hint 50 becomes 0.05
it also breaks the halving cycles ru;le where instead of finishing in 2142 it finishes in 2180 if it was imposed at the next halving to emulate LN digits
and he total coins mined so far (19m) will be diluted in representation to look like 190k bitcoin where the remaining new coin by 2180 will look like only 1.3m coins.
go try and look at data, code, rules, and do some math. and stop relying on comments you find as your source bases to break bitcoin. because no satoshi did not say he wanted to break bitcoins sub unit rule
4549  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: December 29, 2022, 06:45:54 AM
the question
the first time saylor and microstrategy sold their btc holdings and it was only two days apart before saylor made a repurchase. Now from what I understand why microstrategy sells at $16776 and buys at $16845 why did he waste $69 in this case, I mean the difference between the selling and buying prices even though it's not a bad thing at least microstrategy can enter below $16500 or thereabouts. But that's saylor strategy and now microstrategy has held btc 132500 btc and that's a pretty big amount Shocked

So, from what I can see, if you look at the average entry, then Microstrategy does it at a price of $30397, the price of BTC today is $16593, which means that Microstrategy has suffered a loss of almost 50% from the average entry of purchases made.

saylor did his best through the DCA strategy he implemented  Roll Eyes

the answer
Of course, they are not selling in any kind of meaningful and/or material way - except to be able to harvest a tax loss (as they had explained) - which is also a relatively small amount of sale and/or small amount of tax loss harvesting.

what they done was sell of a subset of coins

EG

by selling some of the, lets say the [7002 coins at $59187 price] alllotment (id choose those coins if i was tax burden shuffling). they reduced holding down to 6298 via selling that allotment, to declare a 'paper loss'

but now have an extra 810 coins at $16,845

as shown just using those few trades of the screen shots above

which brings down the average

brought those averages down from $47k to $45k

so they managed to use this 2022 tax year status to have a "paper loss" to not pay tax.
while also increase coins and also bring the average down of whole holdings

which is a good business strategy on all fronts
4550  Economy / Economics / Re: A breakthrough in thermonuclear fusion technology! End of the era of hydrocarbon on: December 29, 2022, 05:40:17 AM
hydrocarbon refinaries only have until about 2069 until oil reserves deplete. so they want to reduces the burn rate from fuel industry to then expand the reverses years left by 100+years instead of 47. because they know even after 2069 people will still want and need plastic products (car dashboards, house window frames, house guttering, etc)

my view on plastics(in 2022) is this
oil becomes fuel. and leaves some nasty toxic sludge behind, if they just burred or burned that, its super dangerous for the environment

however converting that sludge (as they have always done) into useful products has saved that super toxic effect. but now we are at level two. what happens with that converted plastic

having it as single use then disposal is just delaying problems. yes its form is less toxic, but at same time while they pretend that it takes a millenia to break down. we are already seeing microplastics inside animals and ourselves in just about 100 years from first industrial scale use

this is because thin plastic products like grocery bags break down in decades not millenia

we should be prioritising that toxic sludge to becoming long term use plastic such as window frames and other utilities that keep it from disposal for 50 years and then can be ripped out of windows when housing is demolished and recycled into something else with a 50+ year lifecycle

development needs to be done to get cost effective non plastic wear for temporary things like grocery bags, soda bottles, packaging, while meeting the sludge supply and long lasting plastic demand to keep hydrocarbons from just going to waste.

i know some has been done for instance fast food used to have polystyrene trays, now they use card/paper
grocery stores offer paper bags or card board boxes or even cloth bags
some drinks companies are moving to strictly metal cans or glass bottles. but their progress is slow

i understand the fuel refinery need to get rid of toxic sludge quick and cheap which means due to lack of demand of long life plastic the sludge mainly ends up going to one-use product industry cheap cost or free
where by if the one use product industry didnt take the sludge then the fuel refineries end up stock piling and disposing of more toxic sludge

but we need to start finding more long term use demand of plastics to take that sludge and also recycled plastic while reducing how much sludge goes to one use products or even just burned/disposed of at refinery

im also looking into the new industry of desalinating water which leaves behind the brine by-product where researchers are currently trying to develop products/demand to use that brine rather then re-toxifying the oceans with it.
this unsurprisingly ends up showing the thermo fusion industry demand for heavy water which can be found in brine.. as well as lithium for EV car batteries
4551  Economy / Economics / Re: The fight over electric car batteries on: December 29, 2022, 05:18:16 AM
Most people don't spend 100k EUR on a car. 99% of users will want something cheaper, and cheap doesn't go with electric. For instance, one of the most popular cars in Europe VW Golf starts at 30k EUR, but it's electric crossover version, the ID.4 starts at 46k.

To give you a perspective, you're spending so much money to upgrade your Golf to silent running, that for the same money you could get a new Arteon, their most luxurious model, but with a traditional engine.
Is it worth going electric? Not yet, not at these prices.

the decision becomes.. how much are you paying to move the vehicle
euro to pound for my math
€30k fuel car €46k ev car
£26.5 fuel car  £40.6k ev car (difference £14.1k)

i personally do not have a EV car. but i do have fun town touring on a EV bike
it costs me £0.10 to charge my EV bike to do 20miles (0.005 per mile)
any way. using numbers i know
fuel car is about £80 to do 300miles which is about £0.266 a mile
EV car is about £14 to do 300miles which is about to do £0.05 a mile

if doing 5500miles a year(15miles a day)
on a car for 4 years average(21,000miles)
fuel: £5600
ev: £1050

saving is on 4 year use £4550 or roughly 12 years and a couple months to break even with £14.1k
it only becomes economical if you are going to use that car to do 65,000 miles break even
or if the price changes again on fuel from the fuel base cost of my calculation of £1.45 a litre
4552  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is Based on Proof and Not on Trust on: December 29, 2022, 04:09:15 AM
blockchains are simply a batch of data(a block of data) where that block is linked to a previous block, thus chaining the blocks.. thus blockchain


blockchains are based on new blocks acceptance as viable my many rules and features needed, main one firstly is by including reference to a previous block. meaning the newest block could not have existed/been formed/mined before the previous block, due to needing the previous blocks reference to create the newest block thus blocks become a "proof of time"(the "timestamp" term used in bitcoin is not based on actual unix time of a day/hour format. but based on a physics and math fact of 'this block was made after that block' proof)

then comes the proof of work which not only adds complexity to the hash calculation of a block reference to ensure that effort was put into it, meaning attackers need effort too.. but also comes at a cost for that effort(electric/hardware)
the reason for the effort is that.
if it costs someone X to make 1 block then it costs XN to make N blocks. making it more expensive to try going back and editing old blocks and then trying catching up again to outcompete a good healthy chain that just moves forward


to cover costs of this miners would calculate their costs. and refuse to sell their rewards for that time cost at a loss. but want to sell at a premium(profit) which case, enters the premium(public exchanges)

these become speculative as those with higher costs find it easier to acquire coin buy buying it when prices are low and mine it when prices are high.. but i am talking about the hobby miners that didnt buy hardware at wholesale/bulk cost, and not in regions where electric is cheap
these hobby miners jump in and out of the market-mining industries and acquire coin in both depending on market whim/speculation

these hobby miners are what oeleo describes, but these hobby miners are not the value discovery miners. they are the premium price discovery miners affecting market sentiment


the base value of bitcoin is not what oeleo pretends is based on a spread of different miners at different costs jumping in and out daily and causing some underpinned value to be as volatile as the market speculative premium

base value is beneath the market. its a more stable slow grother over lengthier periods of time.  its the non zero bottom of the most efficient cheapest miners on the planet. a number thats more stable than oeleo try to assume.

..
bitcoins base value is the most efficient miners that dont jump in and out. they are not looking at daily prices to make choices. they have contracted into hardware and electric deals for 2 years+ thus they just mine regardless of the speculative premium public market whims
they as the cheapest miners/acquirers of coin look at a periodic timescale of 6 months+ and then look at total coin collected in 6 months+ period to then see their coin per cost. aka cost per coin

these low cost acquirers of coin wont sell for less and because they are the cheapest acquirers of coin on the planet become the base level no one sells below, thus supporting a base value

as time moves on and things change. competition ramps up and other factors raise the cost of the base. which then reciprocates to affect the market numbers

this "value discovery" is a known thing as far back as the first trades of 2010
where users were calculating their PC usage time per coin and electric to come up with a value to refuse to sell below,.  and then develop a separate "price discovery" above it of what they can sell coin for to those that had higher costs or just didnt want to mine.

there are times when the premium market rises meaning other locations with higher cost can jump in and profit too by mining. but that does not negate away from the role of the most efficient miners who still mine regardless and set the base non zero bottom value
4553  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why is bitcoin price important? on: December 29, 2022, 03:24:40 AM
looking for reasons of speculative market is not what i do. i look at the base value stuff that supports things that stop a market plunging into darkness
and looking at the economics of stuff that create the top premium resistance that forms the tipping point of an ATH

all the random reasoning of sentiment and speculation in between of the speculative market .. just becomes social dramas of guessing games

but lets delve into the theory of the ATH speculative reasoning of your stimulus theory
did you check the reasons for the 2011 ATH
did you check the reasons for the 2013 ATH
did you check the reasons for the 2017 ATH
those were not caused by stimulus cheques

yes you could see an uptick in volume on a couple months(ish) of a couple stimulus dates

but that volume is in no where comparison to the 2017-18 volumes

by this i mean lets say all 250m adult americans did put some stimulus cheques into bitcoin
they are only putting in a fraction of the $1.2k

250m * lets say $500 =$125b per round
3 rounds in a year =$375b a year volume

exchanges do far more volume over all, than what i calculated as a $375b per year 'stimulus volume'
where even that $375b per year stimulus volume was an exaggeration of all adult americans investing 42% of their cheques

here is the funny
the price in march2020 did peak to $8k. but it also dropped days later(mid march) to under $6k
and yet that march period(pre-stimulus) was the highest volume of trading occurring in 2020-2021
which you cant explain as a stimulus cheque caused high volume event..

the first stimulus of april-may 2020 had no price impact
(yes it had mid-high volume compared to lets say the 2021 volume)

then the december-jan(high volume) stimulus
and march 2021 stimulus was the first peak of a ATH (stimulus 2&3)
but the july 2021-november 2021 was the peak of a ATH with no stimulus period inside those dates

where by first stimulus round didnt see much uptick in volume or price
yes second and third round coincided with the first price ramp up.
but doesnt explain the second ramp up in price from july onwards

which seem too flimsy of a correlation to try to theorise causation
however here is a better theory, which has a test of time proof of over 12 years

so here it is:
with each major price discovery event follows a year later by a ATH
price discover events     year later
2010-first exchange   :  ATH 2011
2012-halving event   :  ATH 2013
2016-halving event   :  ATH 2017
2020-halving event   :  ATH 2021
4554  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if the government of a country is irresponsible? on: December 29, 2022, 02:02:52 AM
When I see this picture, should I feel very happy, because I basically use mobile phones for all my living expenses now. If buying a piece of bread requires the money of a cart, I would like to know if the materials used to make banknotes are more expensive than this cart?

satire:
he is taking that 80lb of paper to a retailer to buy a 0.1lb of toilet roll
4555  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic future for world specially for the rich kids read this on: December 29, 2022, 01:59:44 AM
rich kids that squander their inheritance(waste it on foolish extravagance) will fail to leave any inheritance for their own kids

but those that start businesses and delegate work out to other workers, and that businesses sees production/purpose/profits can succeed.
4556  Economy / Economics / Re: Your way of living the wage what you need to live normal life on: December 29, 2022, 01:35:09 AM
If we talking about countries like Norway where food price Are very high then Norway minimum wage should be atleast 100,000 NOK + it's about 10,000$ value.

again its not as simple as presumed

firstly when food prices increase. yes wages should increase where food is like a 6%-60% of income. then it feels like people are getting paid fairly if the wage increases go up inline with their regions normal % rise in food price.

however. by increasing the wage, your then increasing the cost of the food at the farm, at the distribution centre and then at the retailer to pay the increased wages. which then snowballs into ever increasing food prices

some retailers try to control this by saying to farmers unless you can make me milk for just £$0.35 a litre we will not use you as a supplier. which has ended up killing off the independant farmers and left things to the 'big-agri' industry to economise by efficiency and many methods of get the prices of produce down, which they then cant repeat the following year when wages increase because there are no more ways to efficiency gain to drop the produce cost. and so the retail price ends up going up.. which as said snowballs into more wages needed in year 3, and so on
4557  Economy / Economics / Re: Your way of living the wage what you need to live normal life on: December 29, 2022, 01:12:34 AM
government should restrict prices of rent for example If you rent out the Property goverment should check what could be the price of rent so to make sure person who rent will not use most of the work salary for rent

politicians dont do tours surveying properties. and dont do credit and income check on all potential tenants..
 
they delegate that to real estate agencies. where it should be the real estate agent that should have the responsibility to do property surveys FAIRLY and put limitations on rent per m2 based on under 30% of average salary of the region.
where the real estate agents do not put tenants in jeopardy by charging rent more than someone can afford or raise their rents as soon as they move in

the problem is real estate agents have no penalty for getting tenants into debt via bad survey valuations and of overcharging a tenant.

and so real estate agents value property higher than the regions affordability and then pretend that a tenant can afford 50% even though the policy is suppose to be under 30% affordability

governments should create laws that allow for a penalty. where a real estate agent puts a tenant over budget. the tenant then has a law/right they can use to get the real estate agent to pull the rent down to an acceptable level
4558  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will Sam Bankman-Fried go to jail? on: December 29, 2022, 12:46:53 AM
Looks like we won't have to wait too much longer to find out what is going to happen to our deal old Sam Bank-Fraud.  With a plea deal expected to come next week, we'll learn what cushy jail he'll be spending his time in for probably nowhere near as long as he should.  It's absolutely insane to me that Sam can be outside of a jail cell while Ross Ulbright remains in custody.  It goes to show that it's never about the people.  It's about control and while Sam's attempt to grab control for the government failed, they can still control those who are fighting for freedom and their fellow citizens.  

my view of ross ulbright is that although(no proof) it appears that he was not personally handling the drugs, he was actually running a modern a drug house/den

much like gangsters in america use kids to handle the drugs but the gangboss financially benefits from the drug deals the kids do. so he isnt innocent

however scam-bankman-fraud is also not innocent and has not put any money down to get bail. and if he absconded his parents can just do an alex jones and file bankruptcy to avoid paying the fine.(bail debt)

financial crimes have financial loop holes which if you are well versed in finances you can get away with most of the time
4559  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if the government of a country is irresponsible? on: December 29, 2022, 12:26:56 AM
when it comes to money printing (increasing "public debt") governments dont see it as a number that increases they see it as a % of value decreasing

lets call value the bread loaf value. where 1billion breadloaves is a value basket

in 1982 a bread basket was $1b
now its $1.8bill

this means if they had a 30 year debt to repay $1b
if they paid it off in 1982 it would have cost them 1billion bread loaves
if they pay it off in 2022 it costs them 555million bread loaves

thus they love inflation. if they can get 200% inflation in 30 years they can half how much real value needs to be paid back
4560  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin decimals. Is 1.00000000 Bitcoin the same as 1.000000000000 Bitcoin? on: December 28, 2022, 11:59:19 PM
Side note, you don't need a hardfork to add (a few) extra decimal places. There is some parameter in Bitcoin Core which lets you configure the minimum transaction fee of tx's your node will relay (-minrelaytx?). It's default value is 1000 sats/kB (kilobyte). You can change this to as low as 1, and get 3 extra decimal places used, for a total of 11 decimals.
That's not how it works.

Because transactions are actually measured in weight units, we already have transactions which are fractions of a vbyte in size.

no we do not
stop playing user display cludgy math games to pretend proposals to break bitcoin code rules and data structures is a nothing burger..
look at actual bitcoin raw transaction data, there are no fractions
and no a hard drive does not see #'vbyte'
hard drives count data in actual bytes.

again you arw talking about human cludgy math, of the human GUI display of how bad math wants to calculate a fee based on data it ignores "for discount" or pretends is 4x bigger than actual bytes for legacy

try to stick to what actually exists in the real blockchain physical data, not what you see on a GUI display or in comments of code (comments are not rules, especially when the comments are badly worded to misrepresent what is actually happening in real world math terms
oh and take your own advice from another topic
That's true, but the important distinction is that people can understand the technical side of bitcoin if they want to. They can verify everything themselves, from the genesis block to the latest broadcasted transaction,
so try it once in a while instead of setting yup your social ping pong games to try to make people think its ok to break bitcoin rules because a comment told them so


you are again trying to set up a narrative that we actually do have sub units of sats on bitcoin to pretend that breaking the actual blockchain data format and value of bitcoin is a nothingburger because in your view the GUI, comments of code and your misrepresentations of what satoshi said is a more important  decider (in your view) than actual code and data and actual satoshi quotes references


i know you then try to redeem yourself by then saying
But of course we cannot pay a fee of 172.25 sats, so the minimum fee would be 173 sats.
but you had already entered the subtle implicit idea into peoples heads.. that bitcoin does have fractions of sats by what you said at the start of the paragraph

stop playing ping pong games to try to sway readers into thinking that breaking bitcoin is not a problem


its funny how your buddy group of malicious intent to break bitcoin. pretend that when someone proposes a new fee mechanism you lot say "there is no fee mechanism, miningpools can pick and choose what is a relevant fee to them, ignoring the reason someone paid X instead of y"

but as soon as it fits your narrative, you then say that there is a fee policy that the network treats as a rule "Because transactions are actually measured in weight units"
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