"But Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide" says that you're taking pre-orders. What's going on ?" - Try to explain your convoluted BS to a newcomer.
Happy to. I have compromise: Give us prefect score on not taking pre-orders, give us penalty on "unspecified under NDA dispute with Dogie"
First part: No Second part: Maybe later Overall: You can bitch and moan all you like but as companies time and time again have found out - I don't get strong-armed and I don't get paid off. You also seem to think that 92/100 is so damaging compared to 100/100 that its going to prevent sales/investment, yet your actions in here are probably doing 100x that. No one sees a CEO throwing a hissy fit on a forum and thinks "that's a company I want to give my money to". As expected. I should have published somewhere ahead of time that you'll take the 2nd part and implement it only. Dogie, you're transparent bag full of dog's poo. Clean your mess.  Edit: I don't care for the score. I care for the fact that you lie and show us as taking pre-orders which is flat out lie. Two more inaccuracies in your reply. It's not 92 and you do get paid off. Outside this thread, by a company that mysteriously gets the first ranking. |
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WHat does 6 blink of the yellow led mean  The yellow led shows powering up sequence and "User Led" to help identify the unit. The SP20 Quick Start Guide and User Guide are here: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/faq |
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Does the SP31 need 220?
No, but the hash-rate will be lower due to increased PSU loss. |
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I've written endless times that we won't take preorders on our 3rd gen.
But by your own admission, you require additional funding in order to make that happen. So your business model hasn't yet been proven to be able to support non preorders. +many more NDA'ed things I want to say. WTF it has to do with the fact that we don't take preorders now? We have took preorders for over 4 months. Your thread is misleading and hurt our business. Preorders?
Preorders are extremely bad for the industry and put all the financial risk on the buyer. This criterion does not act as a snapshot, but a longer term (both past and future) "does
this company engage in preorders". A company who's business model relies on preorders to fund development and new generations is still considered to utilise preorders even if
they intermediately sell some products from stock. Transitional scores may be used when companies have promised the exclusion of preorders but have yet to prove their business model can operate without them. 1) You're business model has not been proven to support non preorders 2) You're business model - by your own admission - can not support preorders without further investment... +NDA'ed stuff 3) Therefore until its proven [and in your case you raise investment], you get a transitional score. What you don't say is that you changed your own criteria especially for us. In October listing you didn't have them. In December listing you add them. What was the change? We stopped taking preorders. Dogie, you're unethical hypocrate. I'm starting to think that you punish us because of our non related private dispute. The criteria did not change, nor the way that I enforce it. In December I added more descriptive text to all the criterion so I didn't have to keep repeating myself throughout the thread - the descriptions act as an FAQ. For example I was asked what was company size about 20 times which you can search for in this thread. Exactly what am I a hypocrite about? I'm keeping my word. You keep trying to drag me into our private dispute.
I believe that it's another unetical behavior on your part.
You're misusing this thread for your own private agenda.
Our dispute is only private because you're hiding behind an NDA. The actual content of the dispute is actually very relevant to the thread because it highlights ethical attitudes. Still, its not yet represented in this thread at all. At the same time, you're the one attempting to misuse this thread for your own [different to the 'private dispute'] agenda, which again I can't mention in detail because its behind an NDA. Am I wrong? There is no ulterior motive for you wanting your rating higher other than "it hurts sales"? Woke up. Outright lies and inaccuracies. At least you admit you cooked the criteria in December. "In December I added more descriptive text" ... I'll answer only the last question, because you're very exhausting and dealing with you is not the right way to start a productive day. I'm caring about stating that our company takes pre-orders which is simply outright lie. A prospect customer reading your thread getting the WRONG info, which we need later to correct. "But Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide" says that you're taking pre-orders. What's going on ?" - Try to explain your convoluted BS to a newcomer. I have compromise: Give us prefect score on not taking pre-orders, give us penalty on "unspecified under NDA dispute with Dogie" You're a joke. |
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I didn't "make you sign NDA". You didn't object signing the NDA.
We have private dispute which I don't see what it has to do with this thread., at all.
Stop BS-ing and fix our rating. If we'll take preorders again, change it immediately back.
In order to have the full information, I had to sign that NDA. And no you didn't force me to but I wouldn't have been doing my job if I didn't find out. What I am complaining about though is the terms of the NDA - that it doesn't expire and there is no reasonable clause to break it. I don't sign NDA's in that form any more. And you're not willing to let me void it, right? No. I don't trust you at all. Our public dispute here demonstrate why. And I should have never trusted that you'd keep your word, right? I'm keeping my word. You keep trying to drag me into our private dispute. I believe that it's another unetical behavior on your part. You're misusing this thread for your own private agenda. Edit: going to sleep. Feel free to post more lies and evasions. The simple truth is: WE DON'T TAKE PREORDERS. All your lies won't mask it. |
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I've written endless times that we won't take preorders on our 3rd gen.
But by your own admission, you require additional funding in order to make that happen. So your business model hasn't yet been proven to be able to support non preorders. +many more NDA'ed things I want to say. WTF it has to do with the fact that we don't take preorders now? We have took preorders for over 4 months. Your thread is misleading and hurt our business. Preorders?
Preorders are extremely bad for the industry and put all the financial risk on the buyer. This criterion does not act as a snapshot, but a longer term (both past and future) "does
this company engage in preorders". A company who's business model relies on preorders to fund development and new generations is still considered to utilise preorders even if
they intermediately sell some products from stock. Transitional scores may be used when companies have promised the exclusion of preorders but have yet to prove their business model can operate without them. 1) You're business model has not been proven to support non preorders 2) You're business model - by your own admission - can not support preorders without further investment... +NDA'ed stuff 3) Therefore until its proven [and in your case you raise investment], you get a transitional score. What you don't say is that you changed your own criteria especially for us. In October listing you didn't have them. In December listing you add them. What was the change? We stopped taking preorders. Dogie, you're unethical hypocrate. I'm starting to think that you punish us because of our non related private dispute. |
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I didn't "make you sign NDA". You didn't object signing the NDA.
We have private dispute which I don't see what it has to do with this thread., at all.
Stop BS-ing and fix our rating. If we'll take preorders again, change it immediately back.
In order to have the full information, I had to sign that NDA. And no you didn't force me to but I wouldn't have been doing my job if I didn't find out. What I am complaining about though is the terms of the NDA - that it doesn't expire and there is no reasonable clause to break it. I don't sign NDA's in that form any more. And you're not willing to let me void it, right? No. I don't trust you at all. Our public dispute here demonstrate why. |
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Guy you're wasting your time. Unless you pay Dogie, he's not going to give you the same preferential treatment as Bitmain.
I know. Still, customers read this thread and get wrong information. It effects our business. The right thing for Dogie to do is to give us the right score. I've written endless times that we won't take preorders on our 3rd gen. But by your own admission, you require additional funding in order to make that happen. So your business model hasn't yet been proven to be able to support non preorders. +many more NDA'ed things I want to say. WTF it has to do with the fact that we don't take preorders now? We didn't took preorders for over 4 months. Your thread is misleading and hurt our business. |
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Guy you're wasting your time. Unless you pay Dogie, he's not going to give you the same preferential treatment as Bitmain.
And I provided preferential treatment how? He is (implying a )threat you that if you keep asking about it he will lower your score on ethical. (Kinda shitty dogie, how about ethical stay based on how they treat customers and not how they post in your threads?)
That's not what I'm saying or implying. Refer you back to the NDA part and why I can't explain what I'm actually talking about in public. Says more than I can figure. No idea what that means What it means is that you've set up NDA's about ratings and they're affecting what you can or do, since I have no more information than that just saying you have an NDA says more than I can figure. It could mean you're giving special treatment or they did wrong shit and you can't say it but I have no clue because you signed paperwork. Ah right. tldr: 1) Guy made me sign an NDA, something I did so I could get the full information on why their preorder of SP30 went south in order to fairly rate them. 2) Unfortunately, that NDA has no expiry time nor any reasonable basis for me to break it. 3) That means that I can't release information on detailed explanations of some ratings without adding liability due to the presence of that NDA. I would happily void that NDA if Guy would allow it, but I highly doubt he will. I didn't "make you sign NDA". You didn't object signing the NDA. We have private dispute which I don't see what it has to do with this thread., at all. Stop BS-ing and fix our rating. If we'll take preorders again, change it immediately back. |
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Guy you're wasting your time. Unless you pay Dogie, he's not going to give you the same preferential treatment as Bitmain.
I know. Still, customers read this thread and get wrong information. It effects our business. The right thing for Dogie to do is to give us the right score. I've written endless times that we won't take preorders on our 3rd gen. |
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Updated to February 2015, lots of changes (see the notes here). And again you unjustifiably mark as us with pre-orders. It does seem a bit unfair, when Bitmain used pre-orders on the L1 and ethics for their hashnest price spikes when the btc prices raises. It's true that BMT used pre-orders more recently than us, but I'm protesting OUR unjustifiable mark for the last 3 months. Customers are getting WRONG data and we need to explain this BS to a lot of worried customers. Don't get started on this again, we've been through this a billion times before. You're more likely to pick up an ethical infraction than have the preorder category prematurely changed. Everytime you'll wrongly score us I'll post about it. I don't understand the rest of your comment. First part: Nothing has changed since last time and it was discussed in detail then. The criteria for going to "No" was set out and you have not yet fulfilled it, and neither has BFL. Therefore the score remains the same until you release gen 2. Second part: I can't discuss it in public unless you void my NDA. I hate NDA's, I'm never signing one again in that form. Thank you for the comparison. It's gen3, not gen2. |
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Updated to February 2015, lots of changes (see the notes here). And again you unjustifiably mark as us with pre-orders. It does seem a bit unfair, when Bitmain used pre-orders on the L1 and ethics for their hashnest price spikes when the btc prices raises. It's true that BMT used pre-orders more recently than us, but I'm protesting OUR unjustifiable mark for the last 3 months. Customers are getting WRONG data and we need to explain this BS to a lot of worried customers. Don't get started on this again, we've been through this a billion times before. You're more likely to pick up an ethical infraction than have the preorder category prematurely changed. Everytime you'll wrongly score us I'll post about it. I don't understand the rest of your comment. He is (implying a )threat you that if you keep asking about it he will lower your score on ethical. (Kinda shitty dogie, how about ethical stay based on how they treat customers and not how they post in your threads?) I'll keep posting about it. I need to explain, few times a week that we have the miners in stock and they're ready to be shipped immediately. He knows about it and still keep the bogus marking. |
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Updated to February 2015, lots of changes (see the notes here). And again you unjustifiably mark as us with pre-orders. It does seem a bit unfair, when Bitmain used pre-orders on the L1 and ethics for their hashnest price spikes when the btc prices raises. It's true that BMT used pre-orders more recently than us, but I'm protesting OUR unjustifiable mark for the last 3 months. Customers are getting WRONG data and we need to explain this BS to a lot of worried customers. Don't get started on this again, we've been through this a billion times before. You're more likely to pick up an ethical infraction than have the preorder category prematurely changed. Everytime you'll wrongly score us I'll post about it. I don't understand the rest of your comment. |
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Updated to February 2015, lots of changes (see the notes here). And again you unjustifiably mark as us with pre-orders. It does seem a bit unfair, when Bitmain used pre-orders on the L1 and ethics for their hashnest price spikes when the btc prices raises. It's true that BMT used pre-orders more recently than us, but I'm protesting OUR unjustifiable mark for the last 3 months. Customers are getting WRONG data and we need to explain this BS to a lot of worried customers. |
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Their saying the definetly WILL NOT produce consumer models for their next gen...
What I said was that our initial form factor for the 3rd gen will be suitable for bulk buyers. Please read my last messages. |
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Updated to February 2015, lots of changes (see the notes here). And again you unjustifiably mark as us with pre-orders. |
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Someone's on one hell of a trip right now... So please tell us what where the hell this info came from?
It's a post from November 2014...? And I doubt they will ever be released to the public.
Its not just KNC. Its also other brand such as SP which don't want to manufacture any more mining equipment. Incorrect. |
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but will be back in stock? or not to sell?
We currently don't intend to produce more SP20. |
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on the website of spondoolies are no longer available sp20, my question is, will return again sp20?  Unfortunately, we've sold out. |
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can i cash in my 150USD coupon??
Please e-mail us at sales@spondoolies-tech.com. We can and should handle your personal transaction privately. |
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