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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 10, 2015, 01:20:11 AM

Should I be worried about that then ?


LOL....tok is playing and feeding the wildlife.  Wink
 
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 10, 2015, 01:00:00 AM
Can someone point out if there is a .25 version of the wallet out there?  I noticed that there where some MN's running that version out there. ....and are we testneting the mobile wallets?
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 10, 2015, 12:47:30 AM
Love it though.  We are down to a one trick pony Trolling...the over hashed out non relevant instamine, old old news.  Poor trolls.  No more ammunition.  To be honest...this has now added greatly to my confidence... for a coin that is under 24/7 dev/testing.  No other coin comes close to the amount of dedication.  

When the trolls and fudsters no longer can have a discussion on what we are developing and the constent stream of features like IX mobile wallets...you have to feel sorry for them trolls!  So if you base your investment on old irrelevant news instead of up to date development and features...then you should listen to our resident trolls!  They've got your back.   Roll Eyes
564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 11:16:42 PM


OH BOY, thats exactly what their doing  Roll Eyes!  trolleros never stop
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 11:12:23 PM
the price keep down what hapening??? dumping again and again... any news or what??

all cryptos are in a sea of red today!  other then a couple of big pump n dumps....its all down today.  its spring and they need to buy a boat for summer! Wink
566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 10:55:46 PM
I'm starting to get the impression that Bittrex is becoming the new Mintpal in its simmering glory days, n'est-ce pas?

The altcoin fever is coming back Wink

Wow... Looking at crave and I am now convinced most altcoin crypto traders are in their boxer shorts, living in their parents basement! YIKES!  LOL.  So much maturing to go yet in this ecosystem.  I tend to agree with a poster a few pages back....all of these alt/shit coin pump and dump stupidity really hurts us getting traction in the real world.  it freaks everyday people out.   Oh well...I should put this on hibernate and check back in a year.  Wink
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 10:47:22 PM
Is this a protocol bump?

Yes.

I still don't get if i need to restart node in order to update Smiley

Yes.

That's why I was asking. In order to restart node I have to go offline, therefore I lose my uptime, therefore i am not getting Dashes from my MN (unless ofc i can wait these few more days)

Evan answered a few posts back saying you do not lose your place in the queue if you go offline and update.  Can someone confirm this again....
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 09:15:26 PM
************ Please Update To 11.2.22! ****************

- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.
- DS Max Rounds is now 8, which is more than enough for anyone. If someone wants more security, they can use the parameter which goes up to 16.
- Fixed Chinese Translations
- Masternode voting should now work properly. Masternode operators can copy their masternode.conf to another computer and vote without having their wallets online now.

Visit https://www.dashpay.io and click downloads to update  Smiley

the linux binaries zero in size?
Are we able to test net the mobile wallet? Is there a test net for them?  Thanks
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 08:13:53 PM

Please Read Evans post.  He is asking to hold on as he is going straight to .22 as I read it. 
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
Sorry i am a n00b

I have my MN running

If i update, i lose the uptime and then i don't get payment (3d uptime)

If i don't update, i simply won't be recognized and again won't get paid

Am i F***d up or somehow wrong? Tell me if i can wait 1 day

When you update, you won't lose your place in the queue. Also, there's a general update procedure, all operators have about a week to update normally. During the window old and new versions will be paid at the same time, after a week is up only newer nodes will be paid. So yes, you can wait a day, no problem.

Thanks Evan for clarifying that.  I always wondered if I lost my queue position if I updated.  Good to know.
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 06:50:20 PM

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..At the moment of writing, the Dash price equals $3.80 with the market capitalisation of over $20,000...

 $20,000 Shocked Huh

<edit>  $20,000,000.00   which in the really world is still peanuts. Wink


572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 06:49:04 PM

What's interesting about Crave is that around 9 months ago, this thread was being bombarded by Cloak, Vericoin and XC trolls who were lambasting Dash (then DRK) for the 'masternode' approach and screaming about how Cloak was going to render Dash obsolete due to the fact that it used trustless 'in wallet' anonymity.

A year on, they're all in the sh*tcoin graveyard while the latest arrival to the sector that's driving the market crazy uses guess what - masternodes.

Nothing like vindication of your technical strategy from competitors.

Trolls on DRK's thread: "Masternodes? Booooo centralization".
Investors on Spreadcoin and Crave threads: "Masternodes? Bravo dev, way to go, hell yeah, to the mooooon" Grin

Apparently masternodes are bad for DRK and good for everyone else lol.

LOL.  yup speaks volumes to the complete morons that interact and trade in crypto!  so brutal!
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 02:19:52 PM



aggghhh. Im never good at these things....lol
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 02:18:05 PM
Thankfully Adam is on ignore he isn't worth countertrolling..

And Tungfa that is frikkin hysterical

Love it...goodmorning everyone...off to a good start!  100% agree.  Thanks Tungfa for the love!  Wink
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 04:44:00 AM




Not interested in your crave.  I only work with what will become legendary pumpers like arielbit so please don't shill your coin here.
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 09, 2015, 04:38:16 AM


YES!  Another pump and dump coin Im going to have fun with. Wheres it traded and what's market cap? My buddies and I would love to own a majority chunk of that.... Get in now... And move it around... Wink not joking either this could be fun and a way of making good quick money.

You can then pump it while we dump it! Wink  I can see a great partnership here. Lol
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 08, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
Dash: Filling the gaps in the Bitcoin protocol through an enhanced incentive mechanism and decentralized governance. (Please read)

Dash is expanding the incentive structure of a cryptocurrency system to include all the elements that are necessary to ensure the long term viability of a crypto project. Specially learning from the gaps found on the Bitcoin project.

For a decentralized system to work optimally, the interests of individual actors on the network must be aligned with the interests of the network as a whole. Meaning, everyone should be acting out of their own self-interest and the system must be designed so that those selfish actions actually benefit the network.
That is the whole principle behind crypto mining, the problem in first generation currencies like Bitcoin, is that other elements of the network that could benefit greatly from an incentive program were not taken into account, like full nodes and core maintenance, just because there was no way they could have identified those areas with absolutely no previous benchmarks.

A very important element is incentivized full node operation, Dash is a first mover on this, and it has created a very interesting dynamic. Running full nodes to support the network while earning coins and using a collateral to create a bond of trust with full node operators.
 
Recently (March 2015) an independent Bitcoin project (Bitnodes) is trying to introduce an incentive system, but it is not done at the protocol level.  Their mechanism seems to mimic our Proof of Service model to some extent but it can’t really have the same effect as it is only one entity with a limited outreach and they don’t use a collateral.

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“The Bitnodes project issued its first incentive last week and will continue to do so until the end of 2015 or until 10,000 nodes are running.
The program uses an incentive program started as an experimental process to reward those who run a node. Rewards for running full nodes are being paid in bitcoin.
A Bitcoin node is a part of the network that allows Bitcoin to operate the way it does. It increases security and improves reliability by validating transactions and blocks and then relaying that information to other full nodes.
Any individual can run a full node by using the Core client (Bitcoin Core).
Miners, the ledger clerks of the Bitcoin sector, are incentivized by rewarding them for solving blocks. These blocks contain information about recent transactions and the reward (at the moment) is 25 bitcoin, which can be spread among those contributing toward the mining.
But there are no similar incentives for individuals or businesses running full nodes. They have only the gratification that they are supporting the network. And if they are not mining, others are being rewarded for it. This is a problem, as nodes are arguably as important as mining.
Another problem: Keeping a full node running for an extensive period entails cost. The hardware being used may be out of play for anything else, or the cost of electricity is significant after an extended time.
The Bitnodes project introduces the Peer Index (PIX) as a way to measure nodes in the network. It is based on 11 properties that can be found in greater detail here. Then nodes are listed on the leader board for all to view.
“If your node is not already up on the leader board, make sure that it is reachable by other peers in the network and activate its node status fromhttps://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/,” said Addy Yeow of Bitnodes.
There are currently 4,006 active nodes. IP, ISP, client, country and more information is available via Bitnodes.
Yeow accedes that the incentives program is not an ideal solution to completely remedy the growth, or lack, of Bitcoin nodes. Further discussion is needed from the community for problem-solving and figuring out a more long-term solution to encourage individuals and businesses to run long-term nodes.”

You can read this full article here: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19620/bitnodes-project-issues-first-incentives-node-operators/


To me this speaks volumes to the fact that Dash’s strategy hit the nail on the head, their peer index is a form of Proof of Service. People within the Bitcoin ecosystem are trying to do exactly what we already did. The difference is that we implemented this at the protocol level and is ready for growth, while they can only patch the problem with efforts that have limited effect. Also, there is no collateral so this does not solve the Sybil attack issue and the fact that some Bitcoin nodes are spoofing transactions. This is a good example:

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“Chainalysis got caught running 250 fake Bitcoin nodes. Maybe they would have gotten away with it if they hadn’t been slowing down transactions that involved Breadwallet clients. Now that they have been exposed, they deny that they’ve been deliberately running a kind of attack called a “Sybil attack.” They claim that what they call a “partial Sybil attack” was an unintended side effect of tests of a product that would have helped Bitcoin companies stay compliant with local regulations.”
http://ablogaboutnothinginparticular.com/?p=3734

Incentive, has turned Dash’s full-nodes into a developed area of the ecosystem, with people offering their services to run them, monitoring websites, shared full-nodes (masternode pooling), etc. All of this has contribute to develop the economy in a positive way. Just go and ask other projects how many full nodes their network has? Or how they are addressing these issues? It is clear that Bitcoiners identify lack of incentive for running full nodes and absence of collateral as an issue and are trying to mitigate it, Dash has already implemented a full solution for this.

With its Proof of Service strategy the dev team has been able to leverage all that infrastructure to bring added value services that are in the best interests of end users. Stronger privacy for the end users while preserving a visible blockchain, this approach makes it easy to verify and conduct business while protecting user’s privacy, is just digital cash.

Also instant transaction confirmations, help settle crypto transactions faster than using a credit card (around 4s), this technology is great because it allows the receiving party to have certainty of ownership in just a few seconds, and this makes it ideal for face to face transactions making crypto more suitable for real world adoption.

Those are just two examples of things the additional service network strategy is bringing to the table.  The point is it is built in a way where many other trust-less, decentralized added value services can be added.  
One of the things that could be built is a decentralized web-wallet, think about the average Joe that will probably not download their own wallets and keep up with updates in online crypto forums. These are the people we are trying to serve. People like this that have discovered Bitcoin just use services like Coinbase or Circle. Imagine Dash could create things like a decentralized web wallet that runs over the whole network of full nodes, this means it would run on thousands of servers around the world that are run independently by different people, no single point of failure, no central authority.  Dash’s decentralized web wallet could have access to services like preemptive mixing and InstantX. Other things that are being studied are 2FA at the protocol level and transaction abbreviation, the possibilities are endless with this new architecture and Dash is a first mover.

Decentralized Governance

The other thing that first generation projects are missing is a way for the network to support itself and a decentralized system of governance. It recently became apparent that the Bitcoin Foundation is broke and dysfunctional. It is not clear how they are going to pay their core developers for the next year and it seems that they will be depending on the donations of some early adopters, but it is not clear where the responsibility of supporting the core protocol lies. It means the core protocol does not have any mechanism to support and manage itself and it depends on donations for life, it seems that strategy is not working at all, which is ironic for a multibillion crypto project.

From a recent article on this issue:

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“It will be a very interesting year for a professional organization with almost no money to function[Bitcoin Foudation]. In the meantime, core development will have to find a way to sustain itself. Janssens personally offered to help fund as much, saying:
A special trust fund is being created and I will donate several 100k to pre-pay Gavin’s, Wladimirs and some other core devs wage for the next year (if they choose to accept). The control of this trust fund will be handed over to the core devs, who can decide who can join it.” https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/board-member-olivier-janssens-leaks-damning-facts-bitcoin-foundation/

Also Gavin Andresen said about this topic:

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“I had an idealistic vision of the Foundation being a member-driven organization, but that never happened,” he said.
“The Foundation will support core development” vision didn’t work; I took a couple of weeks off from doing technical work to meet with people capable of funding that vision and it very quickly became clear most “deep pockets” don’t trust that the Foundation would stick to that vision, or aren’t willing to risk their reputations being closely associated with an organization that had two of its Board members resign in disgrace last year.”

This is what he is saying, but I believe as a crypto project grows early adopters build their own businesses and their focus shifts from the core currency to their own private ventures or they just lose interest. That is why the core protocol can't be dependent on charity as the only way to sustain itself, it is clear that Bitcoin is facing this challenge right now.

Dash recently introduced a full-node(masternode) voting mechanism that I believe shows a lot of promise. Each full node represents one vote. Anyone can run a Dash full node but they need a 1000DASH collateral which acts as a bond of trust, they are invested in the project so they are more likely to act on the best interests of the coin.  Also people running shared nodes have a say in the direction the coin is taking.

This can become a great way to make decisions about funding and spending through a foundation than just relying on a few people like in Bitcoin’s case. Masternode voted funding could be a great way to ensure the long term viability of the project, pay core developers, etc. These are the real challenges a growing crypto platform faces and only projects with the maturity and real life experience to confront these issues will be successful.

Most currencies can’t see beyond specific technical features and into creating a self-sustaining crypto platform that takes into account human psychology and market factors as part of the premises that make the system work.  That is why, in my opinion, Dash has a superior approach it is truly looking into Bitcoin experience and learning from it. Coming up with solutions to the problems growth brings and being prepared for it based on Bitcoin’s experience. That is how we ensure continuity while we continue to add value to end users.

 If you are looking to invest in crypto these are the type of questions you should be asking, try not to be caught in the drama and don’t let others drive you to make emotional decisions. Dash’s development team has the strength of spirit to confront these issues head on and build something novel regardless of short term attrition as a consequence of the hard decisions that need to be made for the protection of the majority and the long term viability of the project.

bump
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 08, 2015, 03:31:41 PM
Proof-of-service is working:



Thanks....
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 08, 2015, 05:35:50 AM
Is there a simple tool I can use to check individual MN addresses to see if they are up and running?  Thanks.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 08, 2015, 02:20:14 AM
Little help folks

I've never imported a private key and I was given a nice gift, for another coin and I need to get the coins in the wallet

Within the console I inputed: importprivkey <private key> [gift]
but I keep getting

Error adding key to wallet (code -4)

any thoughts?
ugh


This gift is equal to and/or comparable to approx 29230.77DASH in percentage of max coins (approx. 0.132% of max coins) but not in $USD$ unfortunately. It would be a shame to not get it inputed into my wallet -

Please Help :-(


OH....that is a nice gift!  Wink
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