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561  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You are also like them? on: October 16, 2023, 11:58:04 PM
They will show you some lines and charts and that's trying to convince their viewers that they're legends in trading. And with some chit-chat and additional topics that they'll add to that description of chart, you'll think that they're not losing any money as they trade. The difference from them and us is they're video makers, content creators that documents everything that they do. But that doesn't mean they're better than us, no because they're just the same as us thriving into this market and the news that they report are also the same as what we can read from the articles and publishing media that has their own websites and pages. And so if you're one of those people that believes every single thing they say, you're too gullible. Because you shouldn't be like that and you need to verify if they're telling the truth and don't just absorb it.
562  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: Axie Infinity Philippine Thread on: October 16, 2023, 07:34:52 PM
Yes mas healthy siya ngayon overall kesa dati, less toxic na din kasi. Satingin ko sobrang liit nalang ng percentage yung nag lalaro ng axie for the money, karamihan naman sating including managers is naka move on na sa axie, for entertainment nalang talaga. I wonder kung ganito ba yung target situation ng skymavis kasi they are focus more on development and tournament than daily rewards. May chance parin kumita yung tao pero need nila maging competitive. For now enjoy nalang, no need gumastos ng malaki at mas madali din ang access sa mga axie na gusto mo given na maraming breeds na at mura sa marketplace.
Yung mga namiss yung hype dati at nakikita yung opportunity ngayon, ito na yung mga nag iinvest sa laro ngayon at nakikita nila na sa rankings sila puwede kumita. Kaya totoo yan na sa mga naglalaro ngayon, iilan nalang yung seryoso sa pera at kikitain nila. Kumbaga kung umabot man sila sa mataas na rank, parang bonus nalang yun dahil nag eenjoy naman sila at ito na yung sinasabi siguro ni Jihoz na puros gamer lang talaga ang gusto nila kaso nga lang bagsak naman ang economy, meron pa naman pakonti konti pero sobrang layo na sa estado niya dati.
563  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Implications of War on Individuals on: October 16, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
No one wants to get involved in a war, only the arms dealers and those people that are earning when there's one.

- do you have any survival tips during war period?
It's not on my mind but if it ever happens wherever I am right now, I'll just flee as far as I can but will I be able to do that on my own, no. I've got a family that I have to take with me and I don't know if they'll agree with whatever sudden plan that I'll come up on the spot.

- are there any business that I can do during a period of war so as to sustain my family? Can I still budget, save and earn in Bitcoin?
Possible. For Bitcoin, if you have holdings now then you have to keep holding it but much better that don't broadcast or tell that to anybody at that time because everyone is for survival.

- What is the economic impacts on individuals with families and how do I sustain them during war period.
Honestly, I don't want to think of these possibilities and future plans if ever it happens. Because I just don't have the nerve to think of it that it might actually come.
564  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bakit nga ba sa dami ng babala at mga nagppost nasscam parin ang iba? on: October 16, 2023, 03:37:30 PM
Advance kasi mag isip ay mag plano ang mga scammers nakita nila ang loopholes ng mga telecommunications provider biruin nadiscover nila na pwede pala kahit mukha ng aso o unggoy ay makapasa sa verefication at kahot na mga pekeng ID ay inaacept.
Nakakainis yan, parang nakakatawa yung mga network providers natin at itong mga scammer din magaling din mag test at matalino din talaga sila. Sabagay propesyon na nila yan kaya halos lahat ay dapat alamin nila kahit yung mga ganyang detalye. Naaalala ko nanaman yung mga raid sa mga POGO scamming hub tapos madaming mga gcash accounts, IDs at mga kung ano ano pang mga wallets na nagrerequire ng identity ng isang user. Sanay na sanay na sila sa ganyang larangan at parang unlimited supply ng identities din sila kung saan man nila nakukuha.

Ang haba ng itinagal ng preparation para sa verification pero unfortunately di nila napag aralan ang mga loopholes at ang mga scammer pa ang mga nakadiscover nito kaya wala pa ting nangyari dami pa ring mga text tayong natatangap at matatanggap.
Baka din kasi nasa loob ang mga kasabwat pero hindi natin alam, yun ang masakit sa mga telcos na ito tapos di ko alam kung napenaltyhan ba sila dahil sa loophole na yan o hindi tapos pinaayos lang dahil nga may press/media na nakacover sa kamalian nila.
565  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Give Bitcoin investment time on: October 16, 2023, 01:23:02 PM
When people start up a company, they give it some years before they expect profits. Most times they even re-invest their profits to expand and build their company to the standard they desire and this requires time. Furthermore, when people buy stocks of a company or make investment in businesses, they give it time which run into years before they expect profits.

Unfortunately, when people buy Bitcoin, they expect huge profits within a short period of time. This is the source of panic and fud that is exhibited by many Bitcoin investors.

While educating people about Bitcoin, I think it is wise we tell them Bitcoin need time to yield profit, let us change our approach in sharing Bitcoin knowledge so that people will not come into Bitcoin with the mindset of get-rich-quick.
That's because they see how it performed in the past and with its nature of being volatile, that makes them crave more to see it move faster than what's expected. Comparing an asset or stock to a business or company or a start up, there could be something in common but they're entirely different if it's about the whole thing. And talking about the returns, it's true that all of them takes time before you see them grow and that's the same for Bitcoin. Although its volatility makes it move faster, you'll still need to be patient and wait until some factors move its price from wherever it is right now to a better place.
566  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: October 16, 2023, 10:52:13 AM
Tama, kasi yang 5% ay yearly. Ang daming di magets ang annual doon sa FB page nila.  Mas maganda sana kung compounding interest pero okay na yan kasi nakikita mo yung gain mo weekly ng walang ginagawa.
Kaso misleading pa rin yung post nila kaya marami rin ang nalito lalo na sa mga hindi marunong mag check ng full details. Buti na lang merong mga nag comment doon at pinaliwanag na 5% yearly basis.
Yun nga lang, normal ganyan naman talaga mga posts kapag related sa APY o annual interest rates para mamislead yung mga bumabasa para ang akala nila ay 5% monthly or weekly. Pero kapag aware ka naman sa mga ganyang scheme ay annually agad ang maiisip mo.

Anyway, meron ba sainyo rito naglalaro ng Splinterlands? Balita ko nakipag partnership sa kanila ang Coins.ph at live na ito sa sa Coins Arcade. Pwede pa humabol sa giveaway.

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"As we make Splinterlands accessible through Coins Arcade, we’re giving away Splinterlands Spellbook worth $10 to (30) lucky new users from September 25 to October 12, giving you more reasons to dive into this captivating universe."

Full details here: https://coins.ph/academy/coins-arcade-launches-splinterlands/
Tapos na yung giveaway nila, nag try ka ba? Matagal ko nang gustong laruin ito after noong bumagsak yung Axie kasi nakikita ko na siya, kaso natatakot na ko magtry ulit ng mga ganitong laro lalong lalo na yung required ulit ng investment.
567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: October 15, 2023, 10:57:06 PM
It's not actually a habit but it's a way for them to protest because they can't accept defeat. Any contest or this is a normal process for them to prove that someone isn't buffed up by some substance that led to a good play. But with Brownlee, we don't believe that he's into it. The guy really is just athletic and we've seen him play for so many years in the Ginebra and that's just how he's playing. You're right that they can't move on but this process is normal for them and we can't say anything into it whether they fake it or not because it's a written rule. But even with that, they can't take away the gold medal to Gilas and our mother country, Philippines.  Smiley

Yes, they  can go desperately from that process and try to move that gold medal away from our country,  they can't let it go as they being embarrassed infront of their own crowd, such embarrassment  is something personal  for this country  they want that dominance and they are showing it in trying to make an excuse, they just can't let go and try to win again in the next tournament but instead they are willing to use all the resources  that they've got to try taking back the gold from the  Gilas squad.
The good side of the ruling is that there should be at least 3 players that will also turn positive. But on this one, it seems that there's only one player and that's Brownlee that has got positive. Maybe he's being pinpointed by the Chinese fans and national team of theirs because he's the one that turned the table of their almost win. It's really hard to move on when you've been leading more than 20 points and then you just get a lose by just 1 point at the last seconds of the quarter. That's bad beats, literally!
568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: October 15, 2023, 09:50:27 PM
Yes, that's truly a good news that the gold medal will stay to the Gilas because a lot of rumors said that it will be taken back but no way. And it's nice that they've shown the rules about it that being one positive won't be enough to take away the gold medal.

That's not a good habits when they take back  the gold medal from gilas pilipinas as we all know that they try too hard to get that medal. And also china can't move on because the reason of that big come back from the Filipino team that's the reason why they advance to the finals against Jordan . Anyways that's a good thing for gilas that they prove that they can compete to international players.
It's not actually a habit but it's a way for them to protest because they can't accept defeat. Any contest or this is a normal process for them to prove that someone isn't buffed up by some substance that led to a good play. But with Brownlee, we don't believe that he's into it. The guy really is just athletic and we've seen him play for so many years in the Ginebra and that's just how he's playing. You're right that they can't move on but this process is normal for them and we can't say anything into it whether they fake it or not because it's a written rule. But even with that, they can't take away the gold medal to Gilas and our mother country, Philippines.  Smiley
569  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Lumang post dati na hindi nagtiwala kay Bitcoin on: October 15, 2023, 05:50:51 PM
Siguro kung ako nasa panahon na din yan baka isa din ako sa mga skeptics tungkol sa Bitcoin. Kasi ganun naman talaga na kapag puro negatives lang nakikita mo at parang hindi naman aahon ang value niya, ganyan nalang maiisip mo na tama yung naging desisyon mo na magbenta lahat ng hinohold mo. Pero sa panahon na yun, yun na pala yung pinakahuling beses mo na makakapagbenta ng isang bagsakan kasi hindi mo na maiisip bumili kasi nga medyo tumaas na price niya. Parang normal at madaming mga ganyang tao kahit nga noong nagsimula ako dito, may mga panahon na naiisip ko kung tama ba talaga na maghold ako, o tama ba itong pinasok ko pero sa awa naman ng Diyos, nagbubunga at mukhang tama ang naging desisyon ko.
570  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Educational plan sa Bitcoin o Insurance? on: October 14, 2023, 10:05:30 PM
Kumuha ako ng educational plan para sa anak ko at nasa 5 years ko na rin syang hinuhulugan sa ngayon.

Sure din kaming matatag ang napili naming insurance company. Ang hirap mamili sa totoo lang. Smiley

Iba pa rin ang ready na para at least, secure na ang future. Kumbaga kung may worst-case scenario in the future, may aasahan akong backup at di rin natin masabi ang puwedeng mangyari. Pero sa awa ng Diyos, sana wag ng dumating sa worst-case scenario.
Sa mga tao na nakakausap ko pag patungkol sa insurance parang yan kasi ang agad ang pumapasok sa isipan nila. Parang hindi pwede isipin na may unexpected na mangyayari, ayaw naman talaga natin mangyari yan pero hindi naman din kasi natin hawak ang mga buhay natin.

For me, parang di appropriate kung pipili between educational plan o Bitcoin kasi in the first place, magkaiba ang purpose technically kaya natin sila kinonsider sa ating mga financial plans. Kung kaya naman silang pagsabayin, why not? Although pag may educational plan, talagang dapat isapuso ang desisyon na kumuha nyan dahil di rin biro ang monthly payment at as much as possible, walang mintis sa pagbayad.
Mas okay kung pagsabayin sila pero para sa iba na okay na at stable naman ang galaw ni Bitcoin, di na sila kumukuha ng mga ganitong plans. Pero tulad nga ng sabi mo, kung kaya mo dalawa na meron ka, mas okay yung ganon kasi may peace of mind ka at hindi mo na poproblemahin pa kung ano't anoman.
571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: October 13, 2023, 03:56:54 PM
Good news is ;

Asian Games basketball gold to stay in PH, POC chief says

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/13/23/asiad-basketball-gold-to-stay-in-ph-poc-chief-says
Yes, that's truly a good news that the gold medal will stay to the Gilas because a lot of rumors said that it will be taken back but no way. And it's nice that they've shown the rules about it that being one positive won't be enough to take away the gold medal.

China is butthurt on their lose since on two consecutive times they are been defeated by Philippines and their second defeat is more hard to accept since they are supposed to win but everything change when Brownlee creates a miracle and hit his shots on dying minutes.
I understand their frustrations because they're just truly fans of basketball. The fans and their community is pushing too hard their delegates to do something with their losses and I think that these actions are their redemption to at least what has happened to them. Is there already an explanation for that chemical that Brownlee took for that antidope test that made him positive if it's just for medication?
572  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Hobby Bikes with Bitcoin on: October 12, 2023, 12:07:46 PM
Was I right to invest in Bitcoin to buy my dream bike?
We all have our own dreams and goals why we're investing on Bitcoin and yours won't be different to ours that are dreaming to buy our first house and land property, dream cars and etc. The discretion whether it's a good reason for you to invest to Bitcoin to buy your dream bike will depend on you since it's your goal and as you've said, that's your dream so let's just say that it's not wrong at all. Things like these are very satisfying and achieving not just to the physical after we purchase it but mentally, it gives us that satisfaction that can't be par with money. There's no need for you to get the approval of others if that's your plan in the first place because only you can give that validation to yourself that you're doing the right thing and you've got the reason why you invested on this market. If some people are telling you negatively about that plan of yours, don't hear them out and just let them say what they want to say. Don't mind what they say and just focus on what you're aiming and that's your goal to purchase that dream bike of yours.
573  Other / Archival / Re: [OPEN] [banned site] Signature Campaign [ Full Member + ] on: October 11, 2023, 11:32:37 AM
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574  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In Case of Global Conflict, Is BTC The Best Alternative? on: October 10, 2023, 11:09:33 PM
Right now, the world is witnessing another round of big conflict in Middle East particularly Israel after Hamas operatives were able to penetrate the small country and made some havoc moves. In the international theater, we still have the unresolved Ukraine-Russia war and there are those sounding the alarm for the possibility of the China-Taiwan turmoil as well as escalated North-South Korea protracted relations.
I will just add here on what China is doing in our shores that they're calling it South China Sea, while our country is calling it West Philippine Sea. And they're even blocking the resupply missions of our coastguards and that's why there's a tension here as well. But I do hope that it won't happen to be a war conflict because everything can be done peacefully and talk about the situation on our waters.

Now, in the face of a global chaos, do you think holding on to Bitcoin is a good idea to protect our assets? Will it be acting like gold which can be so valuable during war?
It's better than gold because you can just carry your recovery phrases or private keys written somewhere you're confident that won't be noticed by people. You're holding your own assets and can run away with it while you'll be able to retrieve it later on. Unlike with other assets that you need to carry and their weights are heavy like gold, jewelries, real estate, etc.
575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: October 08, 2023, 11:52:18 PM
Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt.
They were like had the best start on the PBA but then it's just sad to know that they've been disbanded. We need more of these foreign teams to step up the games of the current team of the PBA and we'll not just see them play the same as usual. Many have become fans of the Bay Area Dragons and that's because on how strong they are and tall their players are.

But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!
Maybe there will be another foreign team that's about to come if it's allowed by the commissioners. On the side note, after the Gilas run in the Asian games with gold. There's a good career that's awaiting for Ange Kouame as he's now headed to France just after a day of their win against Jordan, he signed a contract with UB Chartres Metropole. (https://www.rappler.com/sports/gilas-pilipinas/ange-kouame-headed-france-after-helping-philippines-gold-asian-games-2023/)
I think if Kai Sotto just headed the same as his, maybe he'll get more better contracts but anyway he's good also in the B league right now and seems like his team willing to take care of him for a long time.
576  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Dapat ba na bayaran ang tax ng campaign earnings etc. on: October 07, 2023, 09:22:11 AM
Depende sa kinikita mo. Kung under 10k ata is hindi mo kailangang i-file.
Ang may exemption ay kapag 250,000 pesos o pababa ang kita mo sa isang taon o estimated kapag 20,833.33 monthly. Pero kahit na may exemption yan ay puwede ka pa rin naman mag file para meron kang record sa BIR.

Though kahit naman na mas mataas pa 'don, hindi naman ganon ka strict ang pag implement nito dito sa Pinas. Same lang sa cryotp trading. Pweden mali ako, pero 'yan ang pagkakaintindi ko nung nagbasa basa ako tungkol sa tax law.
Ito ang katotohanan sa bansa natin na hindi naman obligado lahat ng mga ganitong uri ng income ang source nila. Maliban nalang kung ikaw ay may hinahabol at kailangan mo yang record na galing sa BIR, ITR at iba't ibang form na galing sa kanila. May mga magandang benefits din naman yan para sa isang indibidwal at kung may nababasa ka na parang walang saysay at napupunta sa wala ang taxes mo, huwag kang masyadong magpaapekto doon. Kahit na against ka sa gobyerno at hindi maganda para sa iyo ang nangyayari, huwag mong hayaan na madiscourage ka sa pagfile ng taxes mo bilang isang mamamayang Pilipino. Pero sa mga freelancer o tama lang yung kinikita sa mga gigs nila, may dahilan ka din naman at nasa sa iyo yun. At sa source naman cryptocurrencies, totoo yan na parang sa trading ay hindi naman masyadong strict ang gobyerno natin. Wala ako sa stock market pero ganun din ba sa kanila o subject sila sa withholding tax na 20% kapag kumita ka ng mga stocks mo doon tapos tinrade mo into peso? Maganda din siguro malaman kung ganun ang sistema doon o halos parehas lang din sa crypto.

Paano ang proseso sa pagbayad?
Kapag gusto mong mag DIY. (https://www.taxumo.com/blog/freelance-tax-philippines/)
Pero kung gusto mo mag hire ka nalang ng accountant o di kaya hanap ka ng mga accounting consulting firm at sila na bahala sayo pero siyempre may bayad service nila pero di naman ata ganun kalakihan.
577  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you manage your finances and family if your income is low range? on: October 05, 2023, 10:57:08 PM
In our case, we did not reduce the number of meals per day but rather we decrease the amount per serving and also some ingredients for it. In that way we can still have the good number of meals per day and we can manage our finances so well. We are avoiding spending in house deliveries of foods and other items , maybe we will only by those things if there's special occasion. We prioritize things that we need over our necessities, inflation is hard here.
Inflation sucks and we're all having hard time getting on the recovery for each of our lives just because of the effect of the covid pandemic. Before I was also into food deliveries as it saves me a lot of time in meal preparation and I just have to do what I have to do while waiting for the food to come. But with inflation, meal prices have also increased and I can feel already the regret if I do order a food for myself and for my family. It's best to cook on our own and just as you have said, one way is to decrease the serving if you are trying to save. And we're all economical and what we do is we cook for lunch and then whatever is the left over, we try to maximize it and reheat that for our snack or even in dinner. We just got to do whatever it takes for us to save money despite living with not a lot from our sources of income. Avoiding extensive spending habits should start and don't go with your friends that are pushing to spend a lot of money just to be in and be with them, they're not going to feed you and your family with their gimmicks and hang outs.
578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: October 04, 2023, 10:42:41 PM
The Philippines is rejoicing now. China was the heavy favorite, but we believe Gilas has a chance of winning. It turns out it was a huge upset, and Justin Brownlee really showed how special he is. I'm wondering why he wasn't in the NBA. I think he truly is a great player, a real superstar who knows how to finish the game.
Yeah, everyone is celebrating this win of Gilas against China and it's certainly an upset not just by the record through the odds but also in the actual game. I am also seeing those debates that are putting an end about on who's better naturalized player, Justin Brownlee or Jordan Clarkson. Well, it concludes that both of them are needed and essentially good on their respective plays. JB did contributed a lot or let's just say that he's likely the one that made all of those shots. Alas did also great by those clutch plays while it's disappointing with many free throws that have been missed instead of them taking time to shoot and count it as a score. JB seriously is considered as a hero at that moment, and for that last ball posesssion I thought that China will just pass it to their big man and he's the one to take that dunk or close shot. But that good defense from Gilas did it.

With this performance by Brownlee, I think Ginebra is going to be unbeatable. (Sorry, a bit off-topic.)
Not off topic but seriously if he's going to be just consistent as that play, you're right. However, yes, there's a but because some imports have been reported already from other teams like in Phoenix who's gonna be with an NBA veteran Johnathan Williams.

Its actually a total team effort and the whole Gilas did their best to cut the lead and luckily we have Justin to take over the lead. Now we are facing the team that beat us in Fiba and here in Asian games, hopefully to have a better chance now. The coaching staff should be more wise on making their decisions, we already have a good player and they only need is to have a better strategy.
They will be more encouraged and fierce this time. Let's just hope for the best and let's pray for the Gilas that they'll win against Jordan even we know that they've lost against them last time but this is a nice rematch and I don't want to be contented despite Gilas secures silver medal.
579  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Mga Artista Na Scam Ng Crypto Investment on: October 03, 2023, 11:22:13 PM
Buti may mga pangalan na nakuha kasi minsan wala.
Kawawa yung mga biktima na walang pangalan at hindi bibigyan ng special treatment kapag nag sampa ng kaso. Yung ganito ay matututukan ng mga police at gagawan nila ng operation yan dahil magkakaroon sila ng magandang record at mame-media yan. Hindi ko sinasabing wala silang ginagawang action pero kapag ganito, mas makikita sa public na gumagawa sila ng paraan para matrack yang mga scammers na yan at may mga lehitimong operasyon silang ginagawa para mahuli itong mga panloloko nila.

Sana mapatawan ng mabigat na parusa mga ito kaya lagging umuulit o mayroon na namang gagawa kasi alam ng karamihan na hindi mabigat iyong kaso na isasampa kapag nahuli.
Ang mahirap sa mga ganitong kaso kung hindi areglo, magkakaroon lang yan ng piyansa at yung piyansang ipambabayad nila ay galing din sa napag-scamman nila. Kaya mahirap din sa batas natin na mapahuli itong mga manloloko na ito lalo na kapag alam ng mga nasa itaas na malaki laking pera ang nakulimbat nila dahil sigurado piyansa lang ang katapat niyan.

Sa totoo lang hindi naman talaga crypto ang investment na ito, ginagamit lang nila ito para makahikayat lalo na't alam ng karamihan na marami ang yumaman sa crypto lalo na sa panahon ngayon.
Ayun na nga kabayan. Ginagamit nila ang crypto o Bitcoin sa pangs-scam nila at sasabihin nilang kumikita sila sa trading which is totoo namang puwedeng kumita sa trading. Kaso itong mga scammer ang puhunan nila laway lang. Sa interview ni Mikee Quintos, parang nauna siyang nag invest sa ibang investments na inalok sa kanya at parang kinuha muna ang loob niya tapos binayaran siya ng walang palya hanggang sa inengganyo siya sa crypto investment at doon na din niya nayaya ibang kaibigan niya at boom, doon na sila dinale nitong mga scammers.
580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Before you take sides on: October 02, 2023, 04:55:38 PM
It is true that you need to hear the other side of the story before believing such. I do see that there have been stories that are against the casinos that I know of but then, I'll later on figure out that the mistake comes from the person that accuses these casinos. They're making false stories and want to be taken on the side of the majority, but in fact, they're the one that has made the violation or made the mistake. It's easy to make stories that will show how terrible are the casinos and will take the sentiments of the readers. But, without verifying if the story is real, that's how the process will go. So, do not take sides if the story isn't verified yet and you are not able to confirm that. From the time, you hear something is wrong with that casino and make it look like they're terrible enough but in your belief, there's an odd feeling that the story can't be real or right. Because when you hear them out and answers the accuser, you'll find it out that the accuser is the one that has done the terrible thing and he just want someone to be on his side for doing that wrong doing and violation against the casino.
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