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581  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 18, 2016, 06:33:57 AM
I am so sick of the animated 'testimonials' https://vimeo.com/94147033
...
I really feel sorry for the ladies and gentlemen on that page that they're appointed as CEOs/CTOs of some non-existing companies for no reason.

Yeah I don't imagine these 'Fiverr' video people agreed to their images being used to falsely claim them to be on the board of fake blue-chip companies for the purposes of misrepresenting a sham organisation.


16NndHpNJyhqmXRso4dGjtW5V7fhWviGWQ

This is the address I was given by razormind.

If that is the case then your deposit was sent here: 1LbXHMsxXJfaBdfNw9sasinYXS1at6KU2Z which had a total of BTC336 received into it before it was emptied. The odd thing is that there seems to have been a number of transactions outgoing from that address, many of them for small amounts, which would suggest it was a hot wallet they were simply using to pay for goods and services.

Either that or it is a mixing address.


582  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 16, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
Seeing as the @razormind twitter twattery is now tweeting:
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Razormind ‏@razormind 19h19 hours ago

Next #deos distribution will be on Monday -- we're adding the surge of latecomers.

Let's just remind ourselves of the sort of the, extremely Garza-esque, post-ico market-price bullshit they were trying to con people with during the final week of their ICO, sorry 'crowdsale'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/icocrypto/comments/50sh1h/razormind_deos/
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Do you see that? "afterwards DEOS will be set at 1:1 BTC."

He is explicitly stating that people can buy DEOS tokens at 1000, 500 and then 250 DEOS per bitcoin during the 'crowdsale' but that afterwards they will be priced at 1 DEOS per bitcoin.

That is a direct assertion to convince people they can expect to make hundreds of times their investment back if they buy during the ICO/crowdsale.

So many laws broken, Jawad, so very many laws broken.




583  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 16, 2016, 08:50:41 AM

No, that's the postcode BT34 3HQ, somewhere completely different in Northern Ireland.


What we DO know, however, is that Jawad and his wife sister clearly lived at that address in MI5's Palace Barracks. His wife sister was on the board of a women's charity for a short period of time and gave 55 Clive Road as her correspondence address:

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Now, we have two states of logic here, either:

1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation
OR
2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation

Let's take each one in turn and break it down:

1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation - Well I guess it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that the intelligence services would seek to create an intelligence-gathering platform which they hope would be used by people falsely believing it to be a truly decentralised and secure environment, pretty much as Jawad has consistently attempted to claim it to be. Although I don't see how turning everybody's device into the equivalent of a netbook using cloud-based apps on somebody else's servers could ever hope to pretend to be the privacy-centric user-controlled p2p utopia it was marketed as.

Besides, while 'Military Intelligence' is the de-facto dictionary example given for the definition of the word 'oxymoron', I seriously doubt MI5 would be so stupid as to register an operational sham company to their own fucking Barracks!

Which leaves us with:

2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation - Which really makes things *so* much more amusing. You see, whatever reason Jawad had for living there, his decision to register Razormind to that address and then to ultimately go on to perpetrate a multi-million dollar 'crowdsale'/ICO scam centred on fraudulently misrepresenting the scale and scope of the company and the people connected with it, makes this situation beyond farcical, for both Jawad and MI5.

But if we add in the concerns regarding the possible ideological motivation of some of the participants of this fraud, such as Doctor James 'Sulayman' Ferguson, things stop being quite so funny.

In any event I note that Razormind's website has recently been updated from this:

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To now include this:

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Ismael Malik has already alleged that Jawad is pivoting his plans to expedite the installation of bitcoin ATMs so he can cash-out the proceeds from this fraud. The question remains, however, is this just a personal cash-grab by Jawad and Phil, or is there a more insidious intent behind the establishment of a network of bitcoin ATMs and a supposed $5,000,000 'Blockchain Bank' for 'the poorest' in Belfast and Paris for which he neither could properly explain the source of the necessary funding, having denied it was coming from the DEOS 'crowdsale' money, nor explain how such a 'bank', which is slated to offer zero-interest loans, intended to handle the issue of non-performing (not repaid) zero-interest loans.

At this stage a simple cash-grab through conducting the all-too-common 'crowdsale'/ICO 'bullshit crypto project' fraud is significantly less worrying than the broader picture of what seems to be an attempt to establish a Razormind-controlled ideology-driven financial network.

584  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: October 15, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Did you expected them to keep the money in a number of bank account equal to the number of the users? That has no sense. Please read again the contract, that part is no more available then stop saying this as it is false.

No, a company is supposed to have a separate account for client funds and one for company funds. Two accounts only are needed. Not one for every user.
585  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 15, 2016, 12:31:39 PM
Just a little update on this:

Turns out I was wrong. It would seem Dr Ferguson knows all about Razormind. Which is beyond disturbing seeing as he is an actual practising Doctor of Medicine and NOT an IT guy or a 'brand' specialist. This now raises the question of whether he is knowingly colluding with Jawad.

Let me show you how I go from "Dr Ferguson is just an innocent Muslim being used by another Muslim" to "Dr Ferguson's apparent knowledge of Razormind suggests he is in on the fraud".

I messaged Dr Ferguson on twitter to see if he might express surprise and concern at being used to promote a scam:

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This is the response I got:

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Which doesn't really look good for James Ferguson if he chose to simply block me rather than question what I was referring to. Kinda suggests that he knows what I am talking about, doesn't it?

[edit]

Just as an asides, for anyone who wants a better idea of what Dr James Ferguson aka Sulayman Ferguson is about, he wrote an interesting sympathy piece about John Philip Walker Lindh, also nicknamed "The American Taliban". He admires the guy so much he attributes his choice of Islamic name to him:

http://everything2.com/user/mr100percent/writeups/John+Walker+Lindh
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So, again I ask the question, why would a practising medical professional in New York permit his profile to be used to falsely represent him as a tech and 'brand' professional as part of a fraudulent 'crowdsale' process which collected millions of dollars in bitcoin?


586  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 15, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
Jawad is escaping with 600BTC sent to Polo just now!!    Shocked Shocked Shocked

https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P



No you're misinterpreting the address. That address is listed as a Poloniex wallet, not a Poloniex customer's wallet. The transactions are those being done by Poloniex themselves, it is where some of the DEOS 'crowdsale'/ICO funds were sent, meaning that Jawad cashed them out or traded them for other coins to obfuscate the funds.

587  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 15, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
Remember this from way back on page 1 of this thread?

Registered office for a company claiming to have "over 260 staff and offices in London, Manchester, Belfast and Vancouver.":


A small semi-detached house in a residential estate?


Sure, seems legit!


Let's zoom out on that address:

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Doesn't look particularly remarkable, right?

Until you overlay it with some more information for that area:

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Palace Barracks. Razormind is registered to an address INSIDE Palace Barracks, a secure, entirely fenced-off, guarded and highly-restricted area.
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Why is it so secure, entirely fenced off, guarded and highly restricted?

I'll just leave this here:

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588  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 15, 2016, 09:55:06 AM

Here is the deposit address I was given:

1C7kENAgEXRZABPiJavwm5UJTsTQqayuKZ


I'd really like some more deposit addresses from other people if possible, but I can tell you that within a few transfers that transaction was combined with some others and sent here:

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589  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 14, 2016, 02:17:47 PM

Here is the deposit address I was given:

1C7kENAgEXRZABPiJavwm5UJTsTQqayuKZ


Thanks. I'm on my smartphone right now so I've only managed to have a quick scan through so far, but it doesn't look good. Put it this way, I don't see it being sent to any multisig addresses. First impressions look like funds ended up at an exchange address.

If anybody else can chip in with the deposit address they were given it would help to better visualise the money trail.

Once I'm back on my desktop I'll give it a more thorough analysis.


590  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 14, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
So, the scammer may split collected BTC to two streams that 1) routed to Antshares ICO 2) routed to Jawad wallet.

is this the case?

No, it is more likely that the address posted by 'Rippleme' was incorrectly identified as Razormind's when it was actually the Antshares escrow.

'rippleme' said he had traced the payments made by his friends, but he also didn't know that a bitcoin address beginning with 3 denotes a multisig address, so it suggests he is not overly familiar with the blockchain.

Either that or his post was an intentional 'red herring' to mislead us.

Given some of the evidence coming to light back here it would not surprise me.

591  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 14, 2016, 11:43:00 AM

Now, given that the dates they give for the duration of their ICO match up with the activity for the transactions leading into the multisig address and that, something I found odd at the time, Razormind's DEOS ICO actually ended a day later, we can conclude that this multisig address is not from the DEOS ICO/crowdsale.


Eh... still doesn't rule it out. Maybe everybody who bought tokens got theirs before the last day.

You're missing the point. Why would they have consolidated all the deposits into that multisig address before the crowdsale had even ended?


I did notice the address I sent mine to did not move until a couple of weeks after the sale ended.

Any chance you can let us know the deposit address you were given so we can see where it was moved to?

592  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 14, 2016, 07:02:59 AM
For avid followers of this thread I can assure you there is a MUCH, MUCH bigger reveal in the pipeline heading this way. But, in the meantime, just for funzies, it turns out some of these 'champions' in receipt of 'field promotions' have sod all web presence other than a few rather scammy hits:

Original Message

Message ID   <025801d1eec7$ca21a440$5e64ecc0$@razormind.co.uk>
Created at:   Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:16 AM (Delivered after -18 seconds)
From:   Jawad Yaqub <jawad@razormind.co.uk>
To:   ...adiliftikhar@yahoo.com...


I'm going to congratulation the following champions on their field
promotions:

*        Adil Iftikar is joining us as COO (Chief Operations Officer)

*        Ismail Malik is joining us as CCO (Chief Communications Officer)

*        David Mondrus is now our COO of USA

*        Feda Muhasen is now Chief Architect for Europe.


http://report-spam.email/adiliftikhar/yahoo.com
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Feel free to look up Mr Adil Iftikhar yourself. You'd have thought somebody holding the prestigious position of COO for a 'global' corporation such as Razormind (pretends to be) would have a little more of a presence online than that of a "email me on my yahoo address for investment advice" scammer.

593  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: October 14, 2016, 06:37:58 AM
Unless you made it up. In which case I feel another deflection incoming.

Better than a deflection, he deleted his post! Nothing says you believe in your own words than scrubbing them from the forum when they are challenged for being the bullshit that they are.

Sounds familiar. That is *exactly* what Recyclix did with their McDonald's claim.


2. Oh yeah, Recyclix has a partner, and this partner has a partner which know a person which sister knows a man who has a cousin that eat lunch in McDonald and recycled 2 empty cups, and so on... come on...

Indeed. Instead of these desperate shills flinging their desperation all over this thread, why don't they try asking Recyclix on their Facebook page the same question Bill Yeager did which was also scrubbed off their page by Recyclix?

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See that, fanbois and shills? Instead of whining and complaining about us exposing the lie, why don't you have the stones to actually ask Recyclix yourself? Here, I'll even help you out with the wording for the question so you can just cut and paste it into their comments section:

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Are you still partnering with Plamika UAB to handle the waste from McDonald's in The Netherlands which you said they are directly contracted for?

I'm betting they're not going to want to answer that as it has been proven as a lie and at this time they are crapping themselves because McDonalds' lawyers tore them a new one over said lie.

The question remains, then, why did they repeatedly lie to you, dear fanbois? We are not at fault here, so stop trying to deflect your hurt on to us. Recyclix are a ponzi scheme.

Here, let me repeat that a few times for good measure:

RECYCLIX ARE A PONZI SCHEME
RECYCLIX ARE A PONZI SCHEME
RECYCLIX ARE A PONZI SCHEME

Now, given that this thread is a major thorn in their side due to its prominence in the google search rankings for their name, if they were not a scam they would be suing my ass for defamation. Because they ARE a ponzi scam, however, they can't fucking touch me and they know this.

Now you know this.

So stop giving us a hard time when the bad guys are Recyclix and they are lying to you.

594  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 14, 2016, 06:10:25 AM
Ok, so with regards to:
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/address/1GGRoVoQpztuEGS5pHvJiaELsr7VZfVFoL for 0.1 BTC

Tx 2: https://blockchain.info/address/12vZ6B4o5R3D5arUJUCk15ZPuxEAW8Gq8j for 0.15 BTC

So I went and traced their transactions on the blockchain and found the crowdsale money has now been moved to one address:

https://blockchain.info/address/3Q8pgRFtxbUp8wtGbtQqRNXPs1B4i6enu1

A whole 6,119.319402 BTC!!! That's crazy!

I recall doing a search on that address when 'rippleme' first posted it and didn't get any other hits at the time, but having revisited the issue recently I found that a few days later this was posted on the Antshares blog:
https://www.antshares.org/zh-CN/Blog/Details/36
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Now, given that the dates they give for the duration of their ICO match up with the activity for the transactions leading into the multisig address and that, something I found odd at the time, Razormind's DEOS ICO actually ended a day later, we can conclude that this multisig address is not from the DEOS ICO/crowdsale.

http://www.razormind.co.uk/crowdsale/
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So the question now is, where are the bitcoins from the DEOS ICO?

595  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 13, 2016, 12:57:10 PM
Please note Jawad is not speaking at The coinsbank conference or any conferences

He is pretty definitely *supposed* to be at GOTO on 13th of this month. https://gotocon.com/london-2016/presentations/show_talk.jsp?oid=7985

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If the authorities don't pick him up first, that is. I wonder if he'll pull a 'Josh Garza' and simply not attend.


Oh. Look. I am shocked. Shocked I tell you.

https://gotocon.com/london-2016/schedule/wednesday.jsp
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596  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: October 13, 2016, 06:57:42 AM
Do you even read? "high-yield investment program", AKA "scam", I posted that already. You can call it "Unicorn Savings and Loan", that won't change the fact that it's an unsustainable, illegal, criminal scheme designed to separate the gullible from their money.

Both the Borgminer idiot and the newcomer idiot to this thread, SergheiBabliuc, are Scrypt.cc idiots, too.

So I'd give up on trying to get them to acknowledge the facts, they are terminally and wilfully dumb.

"Buh...bu..buuuut. . . .organised criminal gangs seeking to make millions of dollars in easy-to-hide bitcoins wouldn't use a tiny fraction of that to rent offices, or factories or attend expos and have 'open days' in order to fool even more people, surely?"

^^^ Yeah, it's that kinda thought process they are stuck in.

The sort of moron who thought 'Marcello' over at scrypt.cc was a real person who was travelling the world making super-special deals for super-secret mining hardware, because he told them so.

597  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: October 12, 2016, 02:03:30 PM
...deflection...

According to https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/about-us/our-history.html their business 'BASIC' was "burgers, fries and beverages".

If you want to suggest otherwise, by all means, provide some evidence to support your desperation that Recyclix absolutely must not be a scam because. . .reasons. Desperate, desperate, reasons.

Nothing to say about the proof that Recyclix lied?

598  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: October 12, 2016, 12:49:13 PM
We see when facility building have been finished.
What is McDonalds BASIC bussiness?

Ummm, burgers?


It's not right answer.

I see you're still ignoring the fact they have been exposed for lying about the whole McDonald's thing. Is it that you refuse to read the facts posted above or do you read them and refuse to accept them because you're such a devoted Recyclix shill?

Plamika don't even work with Recyclix, yet Recyclix tried to claim their McDonald's agreement was as a sub-contractor to Plamika.

First they said they had signed an agreement with McDonald's in The Netherlands, then when that was exposed as a lie they tried to excuse it by saying it was actually through Plamika, which has been exposed as another lie.

Why is this so hard for you to understand? There is no McDonald's connection to Recyclix. It was a lie.

599  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: October 12, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
And I've just noticed something else, which I find strange. 2 of the 3 articles about Razormind on CT were written by Niall Maye (source: https://cointelegraph.com/tags/razormind). I've noticed that recently he started following @FAILCommunity on Twitter (I am in control of the account). You can see who Mr. Maye is, but that's not the main point. The main point is that I know a guy who knows Niall in person. The guy is a former Director of Slovenia's Bitcoin Association and he is also affiliated with CT. He is a great and a very humble person! I have him on Facebook, we've talk A LOT about our lives, families and such. He also helped me in number of occasions.

What I basically mean - he's a gem. But why CT is not taking any actions?!

Ummm,
Original Message

Message ID   <025801d1eec7$ca21a440$5e64ecc0$@razormind.co.uk>
Created at:   Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:16 AM (Delivered after -18 seconds)
From:   Jawad Yaqub <jawad@razormind.co.uk>...
This is a good time then to announce some great friends:

*        Niall Maye - Communications and Strategy Advisor.

*        Rob Malda - DeOS Foundation Strategy Advisor.

*        Frances Coppola - DeOS Foundation Economic Strategy Advisor

600  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: October 12, 2016, 09:42:18 AM
We see when facility building have been finished.
What is McDonalds BASIC bussiness?

Ummm, burgers?

Anyhoo, let's move on from your desperate weirdness where your reality has McDonald's the burger company also being the same McDonald's the construction company. Pro-tip for free: They're not.

So, anybody remember Plamika UAB Lithuania from the supposed 'sub-contract' to McDonalds (the burger company), which wasn't?

Yeah, turns out Plamika don't even work with Recyclix.
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Please note, desperate shills and fanbois, the question Plamika were asked wasn't even whether they worked with Recyclix in connection with McDonald's, no, they were simply asked if they work with Recyclix AT ALL.

They do not.

Recyclix are liars.

Feel free to go ask them about it on their facebook page. I'm betting you won't get a straight answer and/or the conversation will be quickly deleted if you challenge them on it.

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