Hey everybody!

My girlfriend is the president of the Hastings Law Students for a Sensible Drug Policy.  SSDP is a national non-profit, but I don't think her school chapter is registered as one.  I'm not sure if that matters and she is clarifying with her school.  Any chance you know if chapters count?  They do have a bank account and she is verifying that donations to the club are okay.

If student clubs are allowed to take donations, I plan on opening either a bitinstant (I think they used to do 0 fee for non-profits, but they are offline ATM) or a coinbase account (only .99% and I've met Brian a few times in person).  Do you have any recommendations for another provider?  Coinbase still takes fees for non-profits.

I see on the bitcoin100 website that political groups aren't allowed, but this is more about bringing the topic of sensible drug policy into the public conversation, not about pushing one specific view, although ending prohibition is a stated goal.


Thanks!

I met Jones in Denver when he was hanging out at Joby Weeks' house (an admitted mason descended from William Sinclair of Rosslyn chapel fame).

Jones is a mason and CIA asset. Hate to break the news to his fanboys.

I'll be adding companies from my website - www.freeworldmarket.com. They already accept privately minted silver medallions, so its a warm market.

I thought Steve Job's final words were "WTB new pancreas, serious PMs only"

Not to worry.  They'll just announce a second-gen ASIC product, and push the remaining order holders to "upgrade" their order to the new product.

yeh how about 1 year and 3 days ago.... note the year XD

Actually, you're wrong, OP.

Look here.

... Wait... Don't tell me that was ... another ... LIE ?!!!

You can fool me once or twice but not ten times in a row.

There are several factors involved, but the short version is that having experienced some of the "stalking" we internet denizens tend to do when our ire is up, they are somewhat reluctant to put their privacy and sanity at risk.  Additionally, they are fairly private people and have obligations outside of bitcoin that they do not necessarily wish to mix with the bitcoin world a this time.

Keep in mind, if you are not familiar with online forums and the kind of "communication" that goes on in them, especially the wild west forums like Bitcointalk.org, it can be a horrifying place to otherwise uninitiated individuals.  As open and welcoming as we are, we are still an insular world that is hard to really break into, especially when you come bearing the seemingly impossible claims.


First and foremost, I'm going to get customer service on track and then get production optimized and producing units as fast as possible.  I will also be examining our supply chain and getting that beefed up so we can meet demand going forward.  Delayed hardware is easier to swallow when you at least know what's going on.  Waiting weeks for an answer is not pleasant for anyone involved, so that will be the main area of focus in the immediate future.

Thanks. BTW, I forgot to mention that I put "Butterfly Labs" as the subject of every e-mail to PayPal.  I also repeatedly mentioned their name during each phone call, and brought up the fact that they are violating PayPal's ToS.  Maybe something will sink in if others do the same.

One request:

If anyone else gets one of those "your order is under review and being taken out of the queue" calls from BFL, please post about it. That just seemed desperate and creepy to me.

Daddy, how was I born ? Ah, very well, one day you need to find out anyway! Mom and Dad got together in a chat room on MSN. Dad set up a date via e-mail with your Mom and we met at a cyber cafe. We snuck into a secluded room, and then your mother downloaded from your dad's memory stick. As soon as dad was ready for an upload, it was discovered that neither one of us had used a firewall. Since it was too late to hit the delete button, nine months later the blessed virus appeared. and that's the story.

That's the problem though, i faced my fears my whole entire life and i always failed. I tried but it just never goes away. It's like i'm born with it or something. I guess i just have bad luck.

Coinjar has stole 4 BTC. I have deposited it to my "CoinJar" without a problem. However, when I try to take it out, it never appeared on the blockchain.

Here is the address I tried to withdraw to: 1CDX5aeHkshGyuEGqirNdzBiRpRk14qCuv

You can see how I have not got anything. This is six days ago. I have contacted them multiple times and have got NO RESPONSE.

all hail Phinnaeus Gage bringer of wisdom and light

Shocking!

ALL CAPS ATTENTION EVERYONE!  IT IS TIME FOR THE ALL CAPS POST!  HOLY SHIT!

As was previously posted in a thread that the original poster has read, the non-refundable policy in the FAQ section is simply CYA language.  Also, please READ the FAQ referenced before posting a troll thread.

BFL has, and continues to refund pre-orders to anyone who asks- no matter what the reason.  Yes, there is a matter of trust and confidence that one has to have in any new thing, but butterfly labs has been nothing if not the most honestly hard working group of people throughout the transition from their FPGA line to this new ASIC line of devices.

But even if you were to go by the actual posted text on the FAQ section of the BFL site,


= still has a provision for latest shipping date where refunds are legally required on the part of BFL.

Oh, and they actually have the funding (not pre-order money) to develop this product, and are currently progressing in ways that I am sure will surprise us all.

Phinneaus, did you notice that the page you linked was for the FPGA miners from two years ago, and has nothing to do with the ASIC preorder?

Can I get a refund on my order?

While we reserve the right to handle refund requests on a case by case basis, pre-ordered products are non-refundable as is clearly stated at the time of purchase.  The reason for this is that pre-order funds are used in the build process which makes it impractical to reverse.  It's also been observed that some small number of customers have placed orders as part of a bitcoin price hedging strategy which involves multiple requests to cancel and then re-enstate their orders as market conditions change.  This has created an enormous customer service burden which is resolved by enforcing the all sales final policy.

Some customers have asked why we've given order cancelation refunds to others, but they can't get one.  The answer is that we had opted to process order cancelation requests during our long product development phase as a courtesy to those who endured the stress of the unknown.  However, once full production began, a notice was sent out advising that orders would be shipped as produced according to the order queue and that if anyone was unwilling to endure the wait, they had a final opportunity to cancel.  Customers were required to positively confirm their desire to remain in the order queue and accept the order terms.

Pre-Order terms for new orders were updated on the website on April 1, 2013.  The terms state, "I accept the terms of the sale and understand that all sales are final and there is a backlog of orders and production & delivery of my order may take 2 months or longer."

As a Wyoming Corporation, we operate under the US Federal Trade Commission's business guide for mail or telephone ordered merchandise.  The relevant guideline suggests that if no delivery terms are stated or agreed to, then 30 days should be assumed.  In our case, we've gone to great length to ensure there is no ambiguity.  Customers are/were notified of the back order situation, the inability to cancel their order and the multi month wait to be expected.
Here is the relevant FTC guideline text:

"when you advertise merchandise, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. If you make no shipment statement, you must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days."