No need. You were dissatisfied with my work product, as evidenced by your reply. I walk with integrity; I cannot take your money as I have provided you no value.

Send it to a Crypto charity worth a damn. I appreciate your contribution

All of us arent so happy 

This price is unsustainable. While I agree this is sensationalism, the underlying idea isnt. Why is bitcoin, something with no real world value and no basis of evaluation, three times the price of gold? Gold is one of the oldest, trusted and widely used stores of value. Has real world applications in multiple industries. Bitcoin is so many ones and zeros, literally. The bitcoin price is what it is because of uninformed consensus and banana sauce speculation; I think what they are trying to communicate (besides making bitcoin talking points) is that the growth of bitcoin is unsustainable, which I completely agree with.


Curb that enthusiasm, bitcoin fanbois. Remember the GOX. Until the capitalization increases, and we get much, much smarter as a whole concerning speculation, there is always the chance for this to go very, very south.

Always assume it can go back to sub 100 

I can vouch for Blockfolio. Also look at TabTrader, its api access to all your favorite exchanges gives you a more real time account of your worth, although you cannot manually add holding to Tabtrader. They must actually be on your account, at an exchange.

Blockfolio is the opposite. You add holdings manually, but have to make manual adjustments to your holdings when they change. A plus with blockfolio is that new coins appear almost instantly, the devs stay right on top of the markets it seems. TabTrader may add a coin as soon as its on an exchange, but you cant trade them sometimes (Eth tokens are sooo bad for this).

And they would be right to, if only to survive. AML and KYC regulation affect companies worse than us, believe that they would not deal with the pita that is user verification if they wouldnt get in trouble for not doing it. Save the TOS, which most likely clearly says they can do this; if a crime is suspected a lot of your civil rights go out of the window instantly.

If you dont like this, seriously consider using a different exchange/otc trading. but you will endure more risks with these platforms, as an exchange not following aml/kyc regulation is in violation in most jurisdictions. the law doesnt differ a lot concerning this in different places.

Also, the US is cracking down on cyber crime. This is a little bit of that, it seems to be a global initiative at the moment.

you didnt commit a crime, report this.

Some takeaways and observations:

1) always report theft to the police. at the very least you pay income tax; you are not liable for tax on money you dont have, and you may be able to claim this as a capital loss, lowering your tax footprint.

2) be wary of large amounts of fiat. this should be a red flag. when you seen this, assume you are facilitating money laundering, which you might be criminally liable for.

3) if you make up an id, will it really matter? they stole fizzy lifting drink, obviously they werent going to give you a valid id. hell, they brought monopoly money to the game, LOL. in the meanwhile, you tried to satisfy the reporting requirements. also, there is usually a "x days from transaction" caveat of reporting, they dont expect you to instantly file it. you are most likely fine if this just happened.

4) be quick. camera footage goes away after a while, and if the value is spent, even if they catch them there is no recourse.

5) be smarter than this in the future. im not talking about your money, Im talking about you life. these guys could have knocked a hole in your head very discreetly, and we would not be talking about this right now because you would be in a trashcan somewhere. whenever you transfer large value, play it uber safe. use fiat gateways for transactions of this size, reputable ones.

The easiest way to steal a bitcoin key (and your value) isnt a fancy malware program or confidence scam. Its a gun to your head, or a knife to your throat.

Yes. They dont have value until you spend/convert them, so you dont have to declare something you don't actually have. This would be akin to declaring your stock portfolio; its just as liquidable in certain markets as crypto. I often wonder about the inverse of this; I am considering relocating and maintaining dual citizenship, but the majority of my worth is in crypto holdings. How do I declare my virtual worth to countries that require a minimum asset threshold (say you need a job and x capital to repatriate to certain countries)? I dont think they would be so understanding if I declared my "virtual" holdings, and I'll be damned if I have to convert all this to fiat (and suffer conversion fees) just to make my wealth evident.

Essentially, it seems the best course of action concerning this is to just shut up. Causes more headache than it prevents.

Holding bitcoin is fun, I can attest. But if you hold too tightly, you may actually cost yourself a bit of opportunity.

Bitcoin will go up, generally. But sometimes its goes backward, for  apretty long time. If you remember the Great Slide after Gox folded, it went down, slowly, for an eternity. It didnt bounce right back either, it took a while to regain 1000, to where we are today. If you held during those times, you lost ALOT of opportunity. You could have purchased a real world asset with the money, achieved ROI for profit, and repurchased bitcoin, possibly cheaper than what you sold it for.

I say all that to say this; while bitcoin is a wonderful growth/safe haven asset, it is one of many. Look for profit from all spheres, not just crypto. You may miss an opportunity while sitting around 'hodling". 

Hey peeps, GB here. With all the tomfoolery going on in the cryptosphere, we have had a bit of a black eye lately. 5 major arrests of prominent bitcoin criminals, a few sporadic but massive heists, and the takedown of two serious dark markets. We even had a model get kidnapped for a bitcoin ransom, they were actually going to attempt to auction the poor lass off on the dark market 

to me, it seems the enforcement efforts have ramped up as of late. Our AG, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third, Republican, has vowed to crack down on illicit markets and cyber crime, specifically crypto it seems:


So, do you think this administration will take a harder line with crypto in general? These investigations dont seem new; its odd to me they are wrapping every thing up so quickly

Exactly. If I recall they werent so keen on doing that either. It didnt get to lawsuit status, but I remember the community making a funk about this. Disclaimer/TOS be damned, you can't with hold value due a person simply because you dont agree with the value ideologically. There is no reason for CB not to give users their equivalent BCC  balances; they cannot argue cost because they could simply charge an enhanced withdrawal fee. They are plainly attempting to influence the market by preventing an additional huge dump, which is essentially market manipulation. Besides causing users damages in the form of opportunity cost/actual asset devaluation, they are flirting with SEC violations, if they have jurisdiction in this. They are wide open civilly, I'm not a lawyer and I could argue damages with my eyes closed on this.

Not to my knowledge. This was a common request at CEX that we could not assist users with. To be fair, the type of social engineering attack that you are describing is rare, and can be mitigated by setting up extra account security (multiple passphrases, yes you can do this just ask) or you can put a notation on your account to only make changes in person at a store with an id. After all that, if something should happen to your account, they have pretty much walked into the civil lawsuit of the century due to gross negligence.

To avoid all that, just use Authenticator. way easier, way more reliable.

To answer the thread title, yes. This is quite obviously directed at Russia, for obvious reasons. Sessions is getting yelled at for his decision to recuse; he put up a lot of quick wins to dodge right wing/conservative flack. Its sad because hardline conservatives are eating their own with this.  Sessions is one of the most conservative (im talkin 1930's style conservative) cats alive, let alone in Washington. And was thrown under the bus because he doesnt serve Trumps agenda.

The Mooch, Spicy, and possibly Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third, Republican. Loyalty means nothing in the current WH 

but to answer the question (i digressed )

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

there is so much more, bro. its funny because when you list Trumps accomplishments, they are literally the antithesis of Obama's; attempting to repeal healthcare (also funny people like OCare now they they actually know what it is, instead of listening to foolish talking points), repealing Dodd Frank, rolling back advances in deprivatizing prison, repealing dont ask dont tell.


Sid, its time to ask. You don't live here, fortunately. Why are you in favor of populist policies, as you are not American? You are one of the most informed non citizens about American politics on this forum. So I never understood, because I assume you are brown, why you support policy that would diminish you. trump would barely let you in the States, he would see your people suffer if your nation was struck with crisis. Nor would he send aid. If your cultural group was attacked, he wouldnt even tweet about it like both terror attacka on mosques that he has failed to mention (has never mentioned any terror attacks except those committed by minorities). Trump could give a flying fuck if you breathe. You arent American. America first!

Why do you support being second?

As much as yall hate the fact that Big O had two terms, he gave a fuck about you. He gave a fuck about you so much he prioritized the whole. No fealty to us Blacks, he tried to advance the cause for us all, humans. Its a talking point that he "didnt help the Blacks'', as a Black man I have no problem with this. Unlike my supremacist counterparts, having eaten shit makes me empathetic to those that suffer. Dont help me. Help us.
Because I dont exist in a vacuum. I am part of a society that must thrive as a whole in order to function, and progress.

I vouch for K3Y5. Feel free to contact either of us with address updates or questions.

noted and recorded, thank you.

Have we so quickly forgotten BitFury? 

We have been here before. If you recall,  a few years ago cex.io's ghash feature, and mining shares were powered by BitFury. Russia had the advantage, as we got all types of flack for getting so close to 51% of the network. In other words, there was a time when Russian made and Russian controlled hardware were the majority of the network.

But this isnt that. As stated before, this is a cash grab, a state sponsored ICO. You could invest in worse, but know what this is. You are essentially buying a bond from the Russian government, who's economy is looking quite hurt at the moment due to sanctions by us. Oil isnt looking so darling at the moment either, Russia's chief export. Better then say, sending 2 ETH to the Eros ICO (yes, I'm making fun of you guys that invested in that), but just as risky in my opinion, despite the state sponsorship.


Buyer beware.

This is correct. We are having trouble getting in touch with Jamal at the moment, he is having an unexpected "technical difficulty", so to speak. Until/If he returns, I will be responsible for this campaign. I do not have the permissions to the thread or the original spreadsheet, but I have an extra copy that I am keeping updated to make sure we are tracking everything correctly. I will post my spreadsheet soon; I have to catch up on the time backlog of questions/recording.


Noted and recorded 


The bounty campaign ends when the ICO ends, the ICO can run as long as Oct 16. Allow two weeks, as per the initial post, for us to process and credit your rewards. I will try my hardest to complete this as soon as possible, so we can move quickly when the time comes.

The bounty rewards will be distributed within two weeks of the token emission event, which should occur at the end of the ICO (Oct 16th)

Again, for the time being, please direct any bounty related questions to me, I am filling in for Jamal at the moment.

Hello Bounty Participants,

Direct any bounty related inquires to me, via PM, for the time being. I am working on an updated spreadsheet for the signature campaign, allow me a little more time for an updated Twitter/FB. I will grade your individual media submissions within the next week or two as well.

A warning: none of the rules of this campaign have changed. I will regularly check to see if you are still wearing the signature, if you are found in violation, I will unfortunately have to remove you from the campaign due to the rules. If you follow the rules, I promise you, you will get the bounty. Also, I will be checking your posts for quality. Being a long time forum user, I care about the quality of the board, and don't want to contribute to the spam that plagues us here. You dont have to write an essay, but I need you to try, LOL. Avoid one liners, avoid spam mega posts. Some is ok. Too much will get you disqualified, and I don't want that.

Help me help you get this bounty   Also, feel free to PM me. Allow me at least 24 hours to respond, I expect many questions  

Thank you for your interest and participation! I will try to be the most approachable campaign manager you have had so far. No question is too small. Your bounty is important to me  

PS: I am very active on Telegram. Join our group or pm me directly there for the fastest response; but try to keep bounty related questions to private messages, in order to keep the main chat clean. I may make a group specifically for the bounty campaign, if I get a lot of the same questions.

Hey, its me again. I just realized it may be too late already, you didnt say if that transaction was your whole balance. If it was, don't be mad, you just learned a valuable lesson about bitcoin security. take a deep breath and let it all out. punch some shit. rail at reality for a second, then come back to the keyboard and continue reading.

You have just joined the club that most of the senior members have already paid dues to, the "fuck man I got hacked!" club. Wear this proudly, I promise you wont make this mistake again. It hurts, bro, just like it hurt when they took my * bitcoin. and my .5 bitcoin. and my 1.5 bitcoin as well (because it took me a long time to follow my own advice).

Meh, its suck, I know. But we feel and understand your pain, and we hope you recover from this. im sorry bro, bitcoin is a blessing to modern society, but this is what happens when you insert humans into the mix. Bullshit.

Be strong man. its just money. tasty, useful money, but you will recover from this. let this move beyond you, and heal.

God bless you.

If you didnt make this transaction, then some one else has the keys to your account. Thats the only way this works, Im afraid.

So, you need to GET THOSE COINS THE FUCK OUT Of that wallet before i finish typing this sentence. Im done now, so you are losing time good sir.

Im serious. STOP READING THIS RIGHT NOW AND MOVE THE  REST OF YOUR COINS. Because your hacker could be reading this thread as we speak, you seem to be carrying malware.

The possibility of address collision is damn near statistically impossible. So, because your address is most likely new, and unused, activity on this address means the key is compromised. Make sure you are running the official version of the client; there are a lot of assholes linking malware designed to send your coins into infinity and beyond. Which apparently means Russia and North Korea

But seriously, if you are still reading this you didnt take me seriously enough. YOUR SHIT IS QUITE POSSIBLY GONE at this point. You most likely have malware designed to compromise bitcoind; move your coins anywhere else (this is the rare time I would suggest an exchange, for the sake of speed) and run all of the virus scans, all of them, dammit.

Good luck. If you are still reading this and havent moved your coins, you are an idiot.

Dont be an idiot, bruv