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781  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: November 07, 2023, 12:41:11 PM
 Any answer you feel like is correct.  Im not asking for a precise prediction just mostly a thumbs up or down, its purely the idea that peoples feeling alter and sometimes market effects are ironic; its worth noting how bullish the crowd is.
The majority of crypto investors can't be expecting a bullish end of the year for bitcoin at this last quarter of the year, they would prefer to see a moderate price of $35k - $40k by the end of the year.

It could still be considered as bullish though if we reach around $40,000 at the end of the year. The lowest price that we got is $15,500 last year. So that is a big increased in the price already if we touch based like $35,000-$40,000.

At this end of the year, so many of us would vote for bitcoin to move sideways in price but not to lower back to $20k or not near ATH.
From my observation, I think the price of bitcoin will continue to range from $33k to $40k in pricing towards the end of the year.

It's really difficult if we look at the start of the November, for the start of the week though, it seems that there are selling already as we fall from mids $34,000 when we thought that the price will continue to go up and breach at least $36,000.

So many things can still happen in the next week or so at least this November, others say that this could a bull trap. And there are speculations that we might go down to $32,000 before we can go up to $40,000. So many scenarios and we really don't know where the price will move at the end of this month or even this 2023.
782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Believe That Reading People's Bad Experience Will Help You on: November 07, 2023, 07:04:00 AM
If you're starting your journey on gambling do you think reading about people's bad experiences like losing their savings and getting depressed which leads to loss of jobs and livelihood will help new gamblers to become responsible gamblers for fear that what they read will happen to them?

I ask this because, in our country, our government has mandated cigarette manufacturers to post graphic images of those who suffer from the bad effects of cigarettes on every pack of cigarettes like lung cancer pulmonary disease (COPD), which includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis

So do you think it will be the same with gambling?

It's very difficult to see how it will affect addicted gamblers though, I mean in gambling there could be a lot of reasons why individuals became addicted though and that should be the point of attack to make them quit. It could be that in the beginning, this individuals just wanted to feel what gambling is, and so we say that we gamble for fun and entertainment. But it can go backfire in the long run and become addicted gamblers. There are also who want to escape from their depression, thus gambling for hours just to forgot their problems.

So it might not be an effective method to have this graphic content and images to show what will be the effect of gambling as everyone has his and her reasons to gamble. So there's no one size fits all strategy. Still up to the person to quit and stop gambling and it could be better if they are going to seek professional help to stop.
783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: at which point of a boxing match you consider cashingout? on: November 07, 2023, 02:57:58 AM
assuming you risk your money to an underdog Prograis 3.75 vs Devin 1.22 and then Prograis luckily landed a snap punch resulting in a flash knockdown in the 1st round and the referee counts to 8. of course, you will be seeing the cashout option makes you win probably more than 30% if you'll cash out. would you do it or would you wait to find out if Prograis wins?  and what will you do if the fight goes the distance while Devin is also gaining?

let's say you compare this to Fury vs Ngannou which Ngannou knock down Fury and then goes the distance. will you cashout because it's already a sure profit or will you wait for the decision which is very uncertain?

I don't know, but as a boxing fan, I wouldn't cash out early though, I wanted to see the upset being completed by the boxer, in this case, Prograis and then earlier we have a good fight in Ngannou vs Fury and we always got the win if not for those controversial score by the judges, (but it has been discussed already on it's own thread and it's very highly contested subject.)

So for me and to make the fight more exciting as we watch it, no early cashing out, if I lose my bet, that's it, no regrets whatsoever. At least you can see that the fight is really that good and you have a chance to win big money and that is the risk that you understand when you bet on the underdog.
784  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and misinformation on: November 07, 2023, 01:33:49 AM
Bitcoin as the father of all cryptocurrency have hard it ups and down since it came into existence, but what I observe lately is the misinformation about Bitcoin that got me worried like in this time and age, people still take Bitcoin as a scam.

I wouldn't deny that in my early days of investment, I really was unconvinced by the presentation i had about Bitcoin, which I took it as one of these fraudster trying to milk the general public as mmm did, but with time, after doing some research and finding I discovered how misinformed I was about it.

Right now most people are like me years back, they are totally misinformed about Bitcoin, the best I do for them right now is to educate them about it, which some even told me what they think Bitcoin was, which is totally untrue about it.
but in as much as am trying to share knowledge about Bitcoin to those who lack it, I don't try to force it on anyone so they won't see me as a scam.

I guess it is to be expected, specially when a new technology like Bitcoin comes along as it is the first time that we have witnessed crypto (although we have something prior and it gave Satoshi his inspiration). And with that, it's human nature to be afraid of what's new as we resists change, specially the fiat and the banking system. They see crypto more of a threat, but for us it's a alternative.

And Bitcoin is still fairly young to begin with, so there is going to be a learning curved, and there will be negative things that we will here from it's detractors specially in 2017 when it was one of the best year for Bitcoin as people around the world was very curious at the same time there are a lot of attacks. Nevertheless, we will continue to march in the next 10 years or so and I don't think that those misinformation will be enough to stop this revolution.
785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Using TV( GOTV, DSTV) monthly subscription money to invest in bitcoin on: November 07, 2023, 01:13:16 AM
Given the increasing cost of TV subscriptions in my country like GOTV, DSTV, etc. I often find myself watching the same movies every month. Sometimes, I can't even watch them due to a lack of power supply, making me feel like I'm wasting my money. So, I've had an idea: what if I were to invest the money I usually spend on my GOtv subscription, which often goes unused, into Bitcoin? Many people pay for these subscriptions but aren't satisfied with the content. I'm just thinking out loud, but by diverting the funds from TV subscriptions into Bitcoin, I believe I could potentially achieve greater satisfaction.
The package I do is Gotv Supa which is about 6400 every month. I'm thinking of reducing my package to a lower one like  Gotv Jinga which is about 2250 for the sake of the kids so they can watch their favorite cartoon and I  get to save 4150 amount into Bitcoin.

What do you all think about this idea?

I think not only TV subscriptions, but there could be ways not just for you but for others to cut their cost as we all know that everything now is very expensive. Even going to cinema or going out to eat or even gambling habits could be eliminated or at least be minimized to a certain extend and then put that money to invest in Bitcoin or any other assets for that matter.

And I think it's no secret though, we have heard this from successful investors, first they pay off their debts, and not cut their living cost and they call it delayed gratification. So you have to take a lot of sacrifices if you want to be a investor and doesn't have that big capital to begin with.

It's going to be boring for the majority of us, but we should prioritized thing and make the right decision, not just for us, but for our families as well.
786  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did you think will happen to Bitcoin before January? on: November 05, 2023, 11:08:14 PM
In general, November, December and January are some of the best months for investing. Besides, the upcoming bitcoin ETF and halving means that there are really a lot of green flags and I don't know why to sell now. in my opinion it's best to hold now until the ETF releases. Untill the official news, in my opinion we will see green months. The day of the announcement will be a day of a short pump and then months of profit-taking for those who are now buying, so it will certainly be a good place to open short or at least realize some of the profits from currently held positions.
The last quarter of the year are obviously the best months of the year since bitcoin will experience more positive position in the market compared to the other months. However, this will also greatly depend on the factors that may affect the market and bitcoin. And since we are expecting two big events early by next year, then most probably we will witness a price correction that will set bitcoin price into another level, or maybe a short price decline before the massive price increase sets to happen.

All these will remain assumptions until proven when we cross the bridge by that time.  So let's just wait and see.

If we look though at the past history of Bitcoin, it seems that you are correct, last quarter of the year is very big for us as maybe one reason is that everyone is preparing for the block halving and so we think that they are buying as the price is still very cheap at this point. Halving is still next year, but it's better if we are going to invest like 5 - 6 months before the actual date.

So for know I think that is the mentality of most investors, specially long term, they look past this year and wanted to be ready for the next bull run in the next 2 years. But for shor term investors, they might want to sell some when the price reaches $40k-$50k at the end of the year to make profits.

Definitely, win-win situation for everyone, regardless of what is their goal in the market. They have just to be smart on when to sell and then when to reinvest.
787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you guys believe in other people luck and try to copy them? on: November 05, 2023, 10:41:45 PM
Whenever I am low on cash on the casino I play which includes a sport book I like to copy other people bets,usually parlays with odds over 1000 and I think to myself who cares if I play for example 50 bets copying other people with 200 IDR as my base bet,if any of these guys hits it big I will do to.Notice that I put 1000 as a minimum here but the reality is that I have been copying bets with over 700.000 as odds,I damn love these huge multipliers yet no one has got such one in sport betting.

Of course in here it is not about skill or luck games anymore but it is about destiny,so tell me how many of you are deceived by dreams that may change your destiny like I am  Grin?
Wont really be that bad if you do have that kind of thinking yet as long you are making use of the amounts which you are really that afford to lose then it should be fine.
Having those kind of parlays which involves tons of games then it would really be that totally frustrating if that 49 games won and then the last 1 had lost.
Then you would really be punching up the wall because of such disappointment.  Grin

I think that's what the OP is trying to say here, in Stake you will see the bet of others gamblers, unless they want to make their account private. Buti in any case, you might want to try this strategy and see how it fits you. Yes there is risk, but what are the chances that you suddenly copy a gambler with a huge bet odds like 500x-1000x and then won? That will be the best feeling of a gambler and you will have to thank that individual for giving you that win.

But then again, it's not always going to work your way, still base on luck. So yeah, maybe for some at least try it once and see how it goes for you. Just a little money wouldn't hurt us, IMHO.
788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's the best advice or should I just let him on: November 05, 2023, 09:51:04 PM
I'd like to ask the community I have a newly moved neighbor he is a widowed senior citizen and he lives alone with a house helper, all his children are now professionals and he is a pensioner, we talked a lot about many things  I just noticed that he is very active on online casinos and other gambling activities like lotto and cock fighting every weekend, his children do not know his activities and I'm afraid he is getting addicted.

Maybe as a senior and widowed, perhaps he is just enjoying his life? And it seems from the way you portray him, he is rich with just a house helper with him all the time. So he can pay that house helper to be with him and so maybe he has nothing to do in his everyday life. His children are no longer with him, so just imagine you were like in the 70's and you are alone then of course you will think of some ways and maybe gambling is his escape in the last remaining days of his life.

Should I give him advice on how to manage his gambling activities or I just let him since he is just enjoying his senior years and doing things that he missed doing when he was still young? and what's the right approach, we all know senior citizens are sensitive to criticism.

Very hard to advise mate, it's really up to you. Maybe you can tell his children in a nice way about their parents playing and that your concern is that he might turn into a gambling addict, simply as that. So it's really up to them on how they are going to react, if they are professionals already maybe they know what is up already or perhaps they have an idea that their father is already on gambling.
789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should Casinos Sponsor Sites That Deals With Gambling Addiction on: November 05, 2023, 09:19:57 PM
I'm just curious and would like to get the consensus of the community, should casinos sponsor sites that deal with gambling addiction and cure, we can't deny that the gambling addiction percentage is very high in this generation,

I just stumbled one site about gambling addiction it's a free help for those addicted to gambling, there are many more related sites and facilities.
Do you think it is the obligation of casinos online or offline?

It is casinos' way to repay those who put in a lot of money and get addicted or they shouldn't care because it's the gamblers' initiative to play.

Not sure though if these casinos are willing because it's going to affect them, business wise. I think for me the initiative should come from the government themselves. But in any case, maybe there are also some well known casinos who are directly giving money to the government to create those sites to help their population. It might not be known to us, but with the casinos making huge money and government somewhat putting pressures on them and work hand in hand, yeah there might a good way for the casinos to show their support.

They've already have this kind of "gambling responsible" program or self-exclusion, I see this from online and traditional based casinos already.

You can put it that way, it's kinda giving back to the community and help those who become addicted to gambling. But then again, it's going to be cyclical as gamblers are born like every minute or at least someone is trying to get their hands on gambling.
790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 05, 2023, 01:54:33 PM
We did have a fight this weekends with Cordina vs Edward Vazquez. I wouldn't say it's a good fight but Cordina is the huge favorite here and I thought that he is going to knockout Vazquez. However, the fight lasted the full 12 rounds and won on a majority decision and retained his IBF super featherweight.

This is Cordina's second reign as he was stripped in 2022 because he had a injury and can't defend his belt.

And this is good because next we will see Navarette fighting Conceição in the undercard of Stevenson vs Delos Santos. Most likely the winner could face Cordina for the unification fight and it could be very exciting.
791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection? on: November 04, 2023, 11:42:28 PM
My question to the OP is that what is the difference between Spirituality and Religion? Because I think there is a huge difference. In the Christian religion, betting is called a sin likewise in Islam as well as some other religions. Spirituality on the other hand is ones connection to their religious faith - the things they do and not do, they behaviours others. The connection between religion, spirituality, and betting is not the same across all religions. With the advent of new age religions, some are more liberal and some conservative. My personal opinion on this is that, if you are going to bet, do what you will with your religion if you think it is going to be of any help in the result of the bet. 

I guess there's no difference at all in my opinion, everyone connects spirituality with religion because we can't discuss one without mentioning the others. So in this context, I believed that the OP is talking about a supreme being regardless of what religion we have and asking everyone if there is such a connection.

Of course some of us here might not believed in God so it's a moot point for them. There is no cause and effect, everything happen to us because of the result of what we do in life including gambling. But for those who are into religion and let's say a practicing Christian or Catholic, of course, it's a sin and we should get God involved in our gambling and ask for his divine assistance because it will not happen. Gambling is still base on luck and risk.
792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: November 04, 2023, 11:16:45 PM
The days of Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield were memorable but are resigned to the history books.

True, but I think it was way easier to elevate boxers to high-level celebrity status (i.e. recognisable by millions worldwide) in the past than it is now. Simply because we had a television as a main source of information and all news were reporting on the main boxing events. Nowadays sources of information are decentralised, and often times algorithms on social media would lock people in information bubbles, so any up-and-coming fighters struggle to reach a wider audience, outside of die-hard boxing fans. This means we might never see another "golden era" of boxing similar to what we've had in the past.

Times has really change isn't it, I remember way back when we can't watch the fight live and it's always delayed in our country. The only way to known the score is to tune in in the old and traditional way, radio.

As for this fight, yeah, it's a bit controversial as many have thought that Ngannou won the fight specially he scored that knockdown to make the score 10-8. But it was just one round and there are a lot of rounds that is very close hard to score. But as we all know, usually if that is the case, the judges are going to award the score to the champion, so here, that is why the score or at least 2 of the judges saw it for Fury.

But if Ngannou wanted to proved himself, he just have to wait, for sure there are boxers that is willing to fight him, not just those in the top, but maybe in the top 5-10 because it's a win-win situation, they will get to test how good Francis really is, and obviously the money that they are going to get fighting one of the most hype boxers right now.
793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Difference between crypto gamblers - regular gamblers on: November 04, 2023, 12:45:10 PM


I have the feeling that in the near future, the competion will be fierce that conventional casinos will adopt crypto in other to remain in business.

It's already happening and Crypto casinos are already taking the lead, just look at the sponsorships of big sporting events being headlines by Cryptocasinos, I cannot name a single traditional fiat-based casino that is popular now more than the top Crypto casinos in the industry.
It's not a question of competition anymore it is a question of when will all these traditional or fiat-based casinos will integrate or include Cryptocurrency in their platform.

True, I mean in the pandemic, we have seen a lot of crypto based gambling suddenly popping out in our community and up to this day they are still in the mix and the competition are very tough as they wanted to take a big slice on this billion dollar industry. So once in a while we will see new casinos, unlike land base wherein we haven't heard any new one because just the cost of establishing one is billion dollar and it might take years before they can get a decent ROI.

So definitely competition is here and I will not be surprised if crypto based will be on the top of the game right now. Maybe the OP is right that crypto gamblers are not that easily trick because of the way we wanted to play in this casinos, we looks for trust and reputation before we will deposit some money and play with.
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will $BTC soar beyond 35K or dip below? 🚀📉 on: November 02, 2023, 01:25:17 PM
I personally still remain optimistic about the current cryptocurrency market and the recent increase in Bitcoin prices as something positive after the previous decline and currently if we pay attention there are no clear signs of decline BTC is still at the same level and heading towards reversal. yes. current running price $34,192.
I think it will most likely decided after fed's decision about rates. United States Dollar as currency lost so much value after inflation mainly caused by printing extraordinary amount of money when pandemic started. Its so sad but I think moment fed stops raising the bar, bitcoin may experience short term but very burst moves towards upwards. I am not as optimistic as you for midterm tho. I think bitcoin will get another correction at point probably around the end of this month I suppose.

Bitcoin has risen quite high in recent days so expectations of continued growth are quite subjective.  I have the same thoughts as you, perhaps there will be a correction and we need to evaluate afterwards to know whether the market will continue to go up or continue to decline.  bitcoin crossed $35k after the Fed's statement on keeping interest rates unchanged and people are very optimistic because of that news, people are becoming more greedy with the market.  so I think it's time for us to be wary of everything as greed in the market is becoming greater.

The sentiments has really shifted, and now we are in a bullish state, and so just recently we have seen the price going above $35,000 so that is a good sign that this November, we might see the continuation of the bullishness that we have in October. Just imagine the spike, from $28k-$35.

And then from the lowest low last year same time, of $15,500 to the current price. And if I'm not mistaken that is a big $127% spike already.

So this is just the beginning, this November might be another great month for us, and we might see $40,000 for the first time this cycle.
795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: November 02, 2023, 01:01:19 PM
I’m a new member here, and I want to gamble on online casinos. I found some good trusted casinos. And I want to begin with a game with a low budget. First, I need your suggestions about the best games, slots. Live casino for a beginner.
Do you think Me starting gambling would effect me in my real life or make me addicted to gambling. What’s you suggestion and advices.

Not to burst the bubble to the OP, but that's how everyone here started, from small capital and low budget and we say that we are in control of everything and that we will not get addicted. But years later, down the road, we become addicted to it, regardless if you are a sports bettor or play any other games like slot machines etc.

Of course everyone will be affected in real life, specially as I have said, if you become addicted to it. But we can't advise you not to gamble as we all have gambling signatures here. The best thing to do is just have control and that is the only advise that we can give to you.
796  Economy / Speculation / Re: back in 2015 we had a nice pre 1/2 ing streak. on: November 02, 2023, 02:37:47 AM
If we do the 2015 pattern from sept to dec we will rock 2 more months.

35000 x 1.21 = 42350 by dec 1
42350 x 1.1375 = 48173 by jan 1.

opinons and guesses?

Yeah, it could be around that price range and I think that's where the numbers are being predicted as well by December or early next year, like $40,000-$50,000. And so if the pattern continues maybe just a little +/- but still around that ball park number.

And with that, we should be expecting the economics picture of Bitcoin going to improvement in the next two months. Bullish sentiments is still up in the air and we all know that it's hard to go against that. So we will see and hopefully the pattern is still valid for this 2023.
797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 on: November 02, 2023, 01:41:18 AM
So this means that in every fight on which Inoue is really that taking up some drugs? This is really some shit kind of assumptions or throwing up some accusations without proof.
These ideas would really just come up on the time that there would really be some questions in regarding power and toughness on which people would really be starting on having doubts on which it isnt something new.
To remove out those kind of doubts and issues in regarding power then it should really be that mandatory or something that should really be added on boxing rules.
Accusations like this should really be something needs up to be proven but would they really that be allowing to take up some test before the fight? It should really be that fair
so that there would be no questions asked.

No one is accusing Inoue that he is taking illegal substances but somehow, Team Tapales was requesting that there would be VADA testing to both fighters as to really know if Inoue did not take something. There this thing if the fight is being held in Japan that most of the Japanese teams will take advantage of some scenarios like what gloves to wear. This happens to Casimero and Fulton wherein they were persuaded to wear thick gloves but fortunately, their teams didn't heed to their request and still wore the thin gloves.

It's fair though that team Tapales will request this kind of testing. And I think Inoue has been doing this as well every other fight. It's that maybe this is just highlighted by the camp of Tapales and make some noises about this. They could have their own allegations, but if there is no evidence, we could assume that Inoue is really clean and hasn't taken any drugs.

As for the gloves, I don't think it's significant though or has bearing on the result of the fight. Although it will favor Inoue to have thin gloves as he is the power puncher it could also backfire on him as it could case some hand injuries.
798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Stevenson vs De Los Santos - Nov 16 on: November 01, 2023, 11:01:57 AM
This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

Since a crossover fight has some big profit, they are making some drama to hype the fans and make it seem like they have a beep until they finally meet in the ring. This is just business and I can't blame them if they wanted to have such a fight since they are still in their prime and their popularity is quite high, they are using it to make money and that's just how the way it is for them. It's obvious that they are hoping to fight in the Middle East as well where the payment is a juicy and life-changing opportunity.

This is also what I'm thinking when I saw news about Suga O'Malley mentioning Shakur Stevenson as his possible opponents in the future. I mean he wanted to follow the footsteps of no less than Conor McGregor who become one of the most successful MMA fighter who did go over boxing and fight Floyd Mayweather.

And perhaps this is a insurance for him that if he will ever retire from MMA, then maybe he could find a worthy opponent in the future that could bring him money. And currently, Shakur is very hot so why not Suga uses his name and hype it?
799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mempool almost empty? on: November 01, 2023, 10:02:12 AM
Yeah currently you can use 2 sat/vbyte and your transactions might be confirmed after 2 hours or more, then what?

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say or ask here, but you can use this situation to consolidate your inputs (if you have many UTXO/frequently receiving Bitcoins), usually mempool isn't congested during weekend.

Yes, we seem to be back to normal after the long period we had with ordinals spamming in the mempool. I have taken advantage of the last few weekends to send cheap 1sat/vByte-plus transactions, like 1.6sat/vByte and so on, which did not take too long to be confirmed. . We'll have to see if the next bull market will bring them back up, which I think is most likely.

Might be a different story in the bull run, but we will see, currently everything has settled down. And if I remember correctly, a few months back we were caught by the big hype of BRC-20 inscriptions, causing the fees to spike. But we all know that this kind of hype won't do damage to Bitcoin's network in the long run. We give them some time and when finally the hype goes down, the fees are back to normal and we can all send at least from 1 - sat/vByte being confirmed without any delays.

But as I have said, it could be different when the bull run arrives as there could be a lot of transactions and everyone wanted to go first in the line and might increased their fees to get confirmations.
800  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning]: Scam/Phishing Tornado Cash Website on: November 01, 2023, 09:06:59 AM
I thought that anyone could host this mixing service, as the code/protocol is open source, main developer was arrested and the service was re-hosted again despite the United States banning all transactions related to that mixer.
The site is new, and there are a lot of questions surrounding the original site, so if you want to avoid fraud or get yourself into trouble, avoid any mixing service associated with Tornado Cash

Yes, as far as I know, Tornado Cash smart contract is immutable so anyone can create to interact with the smart contract.

However, we really don't know the people behind this new site, so it's better to just stay away from this website. And if in any case this new website turns out to be rea or safel, then there is the risk that it could be put down anytime soon by the authorities.
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