when idiots refuse the vaccine, refuse to respect personal space.. well. when they get covid, the government have to put them somewhere when they succumb to the virus

you do know if people didnt choose to live in 'tornado' states or live on flood plains.. there would probably be no need for Fema
fema is for those that choose not to evacuate when there is a warning. and act shocked when their house gets flooded. blaming 'god' as the cause.
never will they admit that they chose to live in a danger zone

wait.. jetcash buys own-brand meat from a retail chain..
i thought jetcash's life was all roadkill and nettle soup.

if jet cash really did live the nettle soup lifestyle he has pretended to on this forum. then he should not be so upset by anything a retailer does, as it doesnt apply to him

oh wait. i get it. he pretends to be a nettle soup herbalist. but reality is he buys normal food from normal retailers
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i know last year he outted himself.. saying he a naturalist, not putting poisons into his body. and yet then admitting he borrows the internet while he is a retain chains cafe, drinking coffee

if only jetcash did live the naturalist lifestyle of only buying from local farms. maybe he wont be so angry

meanwhile this morrisons deal has nothing to do with chicken. and has more to do with Wine

if you like a pants analogy.
firstly im concerned you think people only put their pants on.. at the end of the day
it made me chuckle

then you are stuck in the 1960's training pants. where pants are new and your still asking your mom how to put them on.

but as you grow up you learn how to wear them. and u learn all the bum wiggles and leg jiggling to get them on in super fast speeds. oh and you learn to do the zipper up without getting your precious parts caught in the zipper

eventually what was a parent teaching a kid how to put pants on in the 60's taking a few minutes to complete the task. becomes something done without thought in 20 seconds.. in the morning

if you want to argue that you believe it takes the same time to put your pants on as the time taken when you were a toddler.. well thats your problem.

now a real comparison
in the 1960's it used to take car manufacturers days to put cars together by hand..
now machines can put parts together in hours

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yes technology does move forward. but its a shame you have to admit your stuck in 1960's tech mindset

civilisation, society, community
there has been a bitcoin community buzzworded about for years now

governance
bitcoin is governed not by code. but humans willing to run the code.
yes the code is the lawbook. but the lawbook only works by the will of people using it.
and the lawbook does change due to humans.
bitcoin is not a self growing AI. its just code rules wrote and edited by developers.
even in the last 4 years there have been 2 major defining changes. one of which is implementing in november

humans ultimately govern it.
yes the chances of all humans in the community turning off their node and miner at the same time/relative short period with a deadline..  is now super low that its not even a consideration. but its still based on the human will of some to continue even when others may give up

take the hashrate
some miners shut down due to orders to stop as they lived in cheap but fossil fuel regions. this left more people elsewhere to get more of the reward share. so they sold more. causing a price drop below cost effectiveness of people in expensive electric regions to shut down
170exahash down to 85exa hash in 1 month.. all due to human decisions/actions

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anyway.
yes crypto-blockchain (or common world decentralised finance, decentralised ledger tech, etc) can be used to create more diplomatic, democratic, laws.
but bitcoin is about finance and just the first eye opening experience to what could be possible

many things being made on other networks inspired by bitcoins first concept
voting systems
criminal record systems
credit report/ user trust score systems
smart home autoshopper methods
product/goods/supply tracking
manufacturer part ordering/registering
birth, death, marriage, land, health registration/recording
employee rewards/customer loyalty points

but these blockchain systems cannot solve all of lifes data issues
and all rely on people deciding to collectively agree to keep their software running

bitcoin is not at a point were there is enough mass of people that have a sustainable electric supply and unhindered internet access where there is no recurring payment to just let it run forever without human involvement. so bitcoin right now is still heavily reliant on people maintaining it

one person i told 'i quit my job and started trading international currencies'.. the conversation got more detailed where i said the currency is bitcoin. and it led on from there. i gave him some just as free play funds to give it a try

one person was arguing that its not real..  i bought pizza with it. to show it can be used.
and during the 25minute chat showing how its not some lame database but a distributed ledger locking in the data to be unedited. the pizza arrived.
we then chatted more while eating pizza about how secure it is. mining, chaining of blocks, transactions analogy of cheques. mining analogy of cheque clearing houses.. and so on

a relative seen stuff said on facebook. so i gave them the usual warnings that although bitcoin is a real asset, most of the facebook adverts are advertising fake services pretending to manage bitcoin. so i just gave him some.. cash-in-hand to avoid the scam sites offering services

at a few conferences and meetups i said a few basic stuff..
intro to what is bitcoin and blockchains
done the usual Q&A  and had envelopes with paperwallets with small amounts on. and handed them out

best naive analogy to give to the non-technical people is the cheque and batch validation clearing house analogy. where the clearing houses are not centralised
(ofcourse i said it in more detail and more graphics and style, but i wont waffle it all here)

for easy maths
if you have 3650 pregnant woman. and there is usually a 15% miscarriage average(547)
then just out of that group alone is 3 women having a miscarriage in any 48 hour period
whether vaccinated or not

if there are 36000(pre covid) ~5400 will have a miscarriage vaccinated or not
thats 30 miscarriages in any 48 hour period
vaccinated or not

treating 2vaccines and a miscarriage within 48 hours as just coincidental unlinked math
means the chance of being vaccinated and within 2 days having a unlinked totally natural percentage miscarriage risk. becomes a 1 in 91 chance
the odd of having a miscarriage on any 2 random events. maybe valentines or easter. would be the same 1 in 91 odds. meaning not a cause . just mathematical coincidence.

so being vaccinated 2 times in 6 months.
in a study that 36000 report to vaers all their symptoms.

meaning just mathematical coincidence odds of 2 separate events just happen to occur in the same 48 hour period
puts the 5400 expected miscarriages as 59 miscarriages just happen to be within 48 hours of a vaccine

so vaers reporting only 46, which is lower than expected .. meaning good

for accuracy
3958 in the deeper study
   827 sub group of woman evaluated after their 9th month
       only 115 resulted in a pregnancy loss(13.9%)(at any time after a vaccine(days weeks months later)

oh and by the way 13.9% is
not 4-out of-5  
its 1-out of-7

majority of promoted unvaxxed. are actually secretly getting vaxxed but dont want to tell their fellow cult community.
they want the comradory of belonging to a social group thats at their same low IQ but they still want to get vaxxed for their own health security

you can usually spot these people because
a. they will violently scream and cry against any sort of public listing of who has been vaxxed as they fear their cultish comrads will see their name in the list
those truly unvaxxed do not care about any public listing of vaccinated people
b. they post videos saying they got vaxxed and fake their death or fake an illness or fake being magnetic

common flu = been around so many seasons, everyone has had it a few times and already built a immunity battle plan to fight it.

novel virus =  strain your body doesnt recognise with any good battle plan to fight it early.

covid is not the common flu..
i know you use your time machine to go back to 2020 or 1920 for your "research" into science fiction
but it seems now your thinking its 2025 where covid19 is common..

get out of science fiction movie fantasies.

be warned
its not that your grandma has to isolate for 2-3 years never getting infected/vaccinated. where suddenly the virus is magically tamed to be less dangerous to her..

instead your grandma has to get infected/vaccinated a few times and obviously survive it to build up long term battle tactics to fight covid asymptomatically
(single infections, single vaccinations are temporary you body things its a one off and doesnt keep battle blueprints for long. however repeated infection/vaccination makes your body keep blueprints in duplicates for easy quick action long term)

so that means putting her at risk getting covid a couple times(very risky strategy)
or get a vaccine.

best case is vaccine.
a vaccine in the arm is safer than a lung infection
the vaccine does not replicate. and is no where near a lung to cause suffocation.win win.

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the down side is letting the virus spread wild and unhindered. allows it more chance to mutate
scientists are looking at all the methods of mutation.
such as covid alpha-delta getting into animal population(casues larger mutation strain) then come back to human again in its more mutated strain yet

so by the time covid 19 becomes 'common' where everyone has antibodies by infection or vaccination. a new novel strain might pop up.
just be aware

im surprised..
in 1927 was the first proof of concept fight over an ocean
12 years later was the first commercial flight
twelve years. just 12 years

in 1961 was first proof of concept space orbit
in 1969 was first moon landing
eight years, just 8 years

in 2010 was first commercial proof of space orbit
in 2020 was first commercial USE(dock with ISS)
in 2024 will be the first commercial use to the moon
fourteen years, yep 14 years

it took people 60 years ago only 8 years to go from first flight to orbit.. to landing on moon
EIGHT YEARS

yet it is going to be 14 years to get from first commercial orbit(2010) to the moon(2024)

things have slowed down a bit
i know i know people are going to say the government in the 1960's pushed for it faster as a 'space race' and paid whatever the price.

but you would think just technology and knowledge improvements over the 60 years could've cut a expensive 8 year deadline decades ago into a 4 or even 2 year projection now

yes some countries dont have the time to make they own production factories to supply their own hospitals with excess supplies.. so imports are needed

but some countries refuse to buy stuff they want imported and ask for donations instead

however countries can bail out themselves.
they can create new money. and instead of handing it out to citizens causing inflation in the domestic market. they can trade it with other countries and purchase all hospital stuff for their inhouse state run hospitals.
thus keeping the money out of citizen circulation(no inflation) and kept in the upper levels of the bonds/shares/derivatives market

playing the "donation game" takes time to get donators to pay. then organise the purchase then organise the delivery
but buying direct saves the begging organisation time
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some countries do want to pay. but work on worldbank/IMF credit. where WB/IMF pays up for the delivery and the country once it legalises a treasury bond cycle. then pays IMF back

viruses do spread and are contagious and are transfered
viruses are not just dead cells. viruses do damage. once infected

you debunked yourself when you said it was an infection.. a person getting an infection. meaning invasion

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common cold is getting getting slow incubating common virus from the atmosphere all the time(body usually fights it off quicker than it attacks becasue your body already has pre-knowledge/battle plans to fight it).
but your more susceptible to faster viral incubation growth when its cold because thats its optimum incubation condition(your body generates more heat in winter and your body becaomes a cosy home to replicate).
and if people around you are incubating it faster they are also exhaling more then usual. thus you then get hit by more in winter(higher viral load)

you dont 'catch it' nessesarity by sitting in a drafty window. but that drafty window causes a temperature that promotes the viral incubation of any virus you have asymptomatically to grow faster and cause more issues
to then become symptomatic

covid is novel(new) not common. your body pre 2021(before vaccine or infection) had no battle plan to fight it. so your immune system cant fight it aswell hense causing even more severe symptoms vs common cold
eventually after a few seasons. your body will adjust and treat it the same as common cold.
but thats as long as there is not a strain of significant mutation that makes it novel(new) to the immune system

badecker math..
ignore actual deaths

find 411k ACTUAL reports of ailments(minor(372k), mild(54k), severe(23k), death(7k))
badecker ignores 7k
but multiplies 411k by badecker random number 100 =41mill(pretend reports badecker think exist)
divide by random number 6 = 6.85m (more pretend reports)
divide by 11=~600k(pretend deaths)

and that is badecker math of proof of death
(facepalm)

sorry badecker by your loopy math does not create 600k actual deaths when there is only 7k actual deaths

when there are only 54k of people hospitalised due to adverse effects out of hundreds of millions
when there are only 7k deaths out of hundreds of millions.

you need to try to stick to the real math and realise that
150m full vaxxed = 0.0046% death rate
covid19 infected   =~3% death rate (4% elderly 0.5% young)

covid19 hospitalisation = ~12%(20% elderly 5% young)
150m vax hospitalisation=0.015%

vaccine shows as ~650x safer than covid at not killing
vaccine shows as ~800x safer than covid at not hospitalising

if there were 100,000 people with covid. 12,000 end up in hospital and 3,000 die
if there were 100,000 people with vax. 15 end up in hospital and 4 die

morrisons makes alot of money on its wines and its fuel(petrol) stations
however these incur alot of tax, due to import costs.. before even having british VAT at the end

morrisons is in the running to have a depot in one of the "freeports"
which means in near future foriegn wine/oil wine producers can export their liquid to the UK freeport TAX DUTY FREE
then have a factory reprocess/package it at the freeport.
(bottle the wine, label it 'bottled in the UK)
(refine the oil into petrol and plastic)
where the "product" is labelled 'processed/bottled in the UK' thus its automatically treated as not an import but instead a british product.
ding ding free import ding ding jackpot!

so exiting the warehouse and then going into domestic distribution means no import duty.
however if it leaves the warehouse to then be 'sold' to another company. the warehouse needs regulations
which is another headache.. but if you also own the domestic distribution and retail.. no problem
clever right. another win

however if companies wanted to set all this up from scratch(refinery/bottling plants, warehouse, distribution and retail stores/petrol stations) would cost them double digit billions and decades..

however morrisons already has most of this stuff ready. .. just someone needs to coax morrisons to sell up so they can then use the distribution system for many other aspects of the economy outside of just serving morrisons customers at the cashier desk

elementary/highschool stuff
if its a exam that has an extract/chapter. and then has questions about the extract.
DONT read the extract first.

read the questions first.
then you will know what you are looking for when reading the extract
.......
if its a 4 option multiple choice and you dont know the answer. never just randomly select 1 out of the 4
atleast try to void out 2 obviously wrong options.. it will increase chances from 25% to above 50%

the next stage already being used is offering these altnet token before/without bitcoin being confirmed/locked into a user/custodian multisig
-turbo channels and such using 'free instant inbound liquidity'

this is where a custodian already has locks on its UTXO holding. split into <0.04btc lumps (they own the keys)
where they lock it for a [year]
and each month they nominate which user gets that presumed balance as inbound liquidity in their micropayment channel represented as Msats

funny part is although the taint can be seen linking back to a locked btc. the nominated user is not part of the multisig control of it. meaning its not locked just for that users channel and that user alone
because coin was locked WAY WAY WAY before the user even requested some liquidity

this is an economic flaw because
UserA maybe nominated for stash 0.04 from transaction taint:
but nothing stops custodian also using the same stash with another userB,c.d.. at the same time
(LN has no network wide audit stopping double uses of transactions where UTXO is not a specific multisig)

welcome to fractional reserving
the custodian can initially pretend each token [*pegged] with LN taint showing back to a onchain lock
but that onchain tx is not unique to that channel/locked to that specific channel
so if they calculate that on average only 25% of inbound liquidity is ever used. they can risk using that UTXO on 3 channels and have enough average buffer to cover all withdrawals

the point is
the economic landscape is changing from users holding/investing in bitcoin
(much like they did with gold in the 1800's)
being promoted that playing with bitcoin is bad, expendive and a hassle (bitcoin is broke)
(gold is broke as a payment tool)

to advertise playing with altnets and altcoins and tokens. which have many flaws. hense me mentioning the risks and facts
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i understand Ucy suggestive philosophy that in the 1800's bartering gold dust was a headache. where the handling such small amounts took more cost/effort than the value of the dust. and so people traded in their dust for lumpier cheaper metals(nickel/copper coins)
making it cheaper and easier to handle and barter with

0.00000020btc dust = 0.00000226btc fee
20000 Msat tokens = 10 Msat fee          
looks like a good swap for utility..right?!

but thats moving away from allowing everyone utility and holding/bartering with bitcoin(gold)
to become people playing with altnet tokens [*pegged to bitcoin] such as L-btc and Msat
(much like they did with gold promissory notes(bank notes 1900's))

the next stage is to then become the promotion that its easier to atomic swap altnet(offchain) tokens to altcoins when wanting to exit LN
(much like banks did when offering nickel/copper coins for banknotes, instead of just giving back the gold)

democracy.. is only on the 4th or 5th year. and only for 1 day
after that its then capitalism, socialism or communism
                               ^                ^              ^_for the politicians benefit
                               |                  |_ for the citizens benefit
                               |_for the corporate elites benefit

true democracy is where citizens should get more input on a more regular bases

[23 seconds to debunk]
you mean the same guy that only became the president of Eco-Health Allience in 2021
oh wait. i guess your soon to begin further 'research' will be "coz time machine"
mhm.. moving on

oh and he was put in place so that he can do further investigations into covid
after all you dont send a covid expert into an investigation and a month later throw him out in the trash

but yea. he was not in eco pre 2021. so just quit your conspiracy before you start chanting about time machines making your theory possible

you really have no clue about history or facts
seriously go check actual blockchain data.. not your friends opinon and dream

it was not those opposing segwit that changed code in their software to create an altcoin
it was the segwit side that arranged the NYA flag to ignore legacy blocks to cause a split.

also compared to 2009 hardware/bandwidth limitations to which satoshi decided 1mb was ok limit
things have moved on since then. on average hardware/internet has increased 33x
yet the blockchain is struggling to get passed only 2.5k tx a block since 2017


what you are finding is average joe just wanting to buy coffee will not want to carry around a desktop computer to make LN payments 'coz decentralised full node required'
they end up not giving a crap about bitcoin and just deposit fiat into a central exchange and have the exchange manage their micropayment millisat token channel. thus avoiding any need of caring worrying,securing bitcoin

its like accepting bank notes. no one cares about securing the bank vault of gold. thats for the vault owner to do and people are not vault owners. they are paper holders.

LN will cause more people to move away from using bitcoin as a full node because they are not doing daily things onchain to want/need to keep a full node open all day everyday

removing bitcoins daily utility makes average joe not be full nodes. leaving only large central services to be the full nodes. (like the NYA guys)