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861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOYYAL. The Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. on: June 10, 2016, 05:17:50 AM
Can someone tell me what the main goal of this coin is for 5 years from now. thank you

Much info here: https://medium.com/@loyyal
862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOYYAL. The Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. on: June 10, 2016, 05:14:24 AM
Can someone tell me what the main goal of this coin is for 5 years from now. thank you

Integrate into real life spending  like airmiles with all the blockchain features and marketing data analytics like Google shopping. There are many potentials they could go after, really depends on the direction they choose.

(I suppose) they are not limited to crypto payments at all, just regular cards snd cash, where the blockchain is just to register the rewards/loyalties


What I have seen so far it will be app based....I think it's a great way to introduce people to crypto through points which is a lot less threatening.

I'm not sure if it js an introduction to crypto, i think that is just the underlying architecture but will not really expose to the end-user, which is a good thing. You should not need to understand anything from crypto to use this program. :-) maybe that's actually the same as you are saying
863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOYYAL. The Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. on: June 10, 2016, 04:50:59 AM
Anyone back from the Ribbit-time has an estimate of how many coins in supply? I understand 60% has not been released  (never will) and a lot was lost with Cryptsy gone. Current sell orders on Bittrex is 30m. Cryptsy was more popular and Ribbit more active back then (x3?) plus not all coins are in orders (x3?). So 30m x3 x3=270m lost. 400 - 270m=130m left?

130m x0.000003 (current price) x575$ (btc)=130m x0.001725$ = 224,250$ realistic market cap.

Current "nominal" value: 400m x 0.000003 x 575$ / 130m = 0.0053076923$

Current price: 0.000003 x575$= 0.001725$ (-300%).

Correct?
864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOYYAL. The Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. on: June 09, 2016, 08:56:52 PM
Can someone tell me what the main goal of this coin is for 5 years from now. thank you

Integrate into real life spending  like airmiles with all the blockchain features and marketing data analytics like Google shopping. There are many potentials they could go after, really depends on the direction they choose.

(I suppose) they are not limited to crypto payments at all, just regular cards snd cash, where the blockchain is just to register the rewards/loyalties
865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOYYAL. The Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. on: June 09, 2016, 08:51:32 PM
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As far as i know, from a trustworthier source.
The RBR coin will swap into LOYYAL.
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Yeah well the swap is confirmed imho, but the ratio is unclear.

Personally i don't really care about the rocket, i just like to invest in a good and realistic concept with lots of potention. I don't need a 1000% increase in 10 days, but it would be nice to know how to invest how many into what :-)

I bought a load of RBR. I took the risk. All sounds too good to miss out on. I know you've got to get early and sit it out in crypto. I wish the best for this project.

Ps. Anyone can register under that name on slack, create a website and ann on bct. But i guess if it's on all those respected news sites it must be true 😆
866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOYYAL. The Universal Loyalty and Rewards Platform. on: June 09, 2016, 02:47:49 PM
I've contacted Loyyal about the relation to Ribbit and how anyone can support the cause; so I'll guess it's usefull to share here:

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> Does Loyyal have a Slack channel?
< We are looking at getting an active channel going, but as we are principally focused on B2B operation at the moment, and are heavily concentrating on developing enterprise relationships and platform development, there is a lot to juggle! We'll keep you updated! In the mean time, let us know any questions you might have!

> Many, lol. But thanks for your clarification. Despite you are focussed on B2B, will there be some sort of ICO? I read that Ribbitcoins will be transferred to Loyyal at some time, does it make sense to buy those meanwhile? Maybe even any numbers/ratio on this? Your concept looks very promising, especially integrating blockchain functionality into everyday, real-world usage. Looking forward to see your enterprise grow slightsmile-emoticon
< Thanks for the kind words - we're really excited about where Loyyal is going and the pipeline we have for the next year - You're right, the real world usage and application is is really exciting, and ii is amazing the response we are getting as we grow! There are plans being thrown around in the works for ribbitrewards, at the moment (..)

> Exciting. I'll guess I just trust you on that one and will just buy some Ribbitcoins and see where it goes from there! (...)

No guarantees, use it or don't. Sounds exciting imho, so I bought some on Bittrex. But no guarantee on conversion as you can read, so there's a risk to it.
867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 07, 2016, 07:05:10 PM

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What are you trying to say? If they would have an PHP page would you say that someone else wrote an code? Actually for almost everything there is an finished code but still dont see everybody writing their own, most is reused. Lets look at all coins, how much is their code different and this difference, was it taken from somewhere?

You argument like if it is shit if you use code and code examples, everytihng should be written new, invent something that exists and works?? Show me some projects please where everything new is written no code used elsewhere is used, can you show me any of your projects? I really would like to see what you mean with new developed code.

If you find the same game, please post it here. If you mean that it is so easy, do it yourself, deliver us some games if you are so much better. The same is for blockchain, marketing, transparency and the rest, show us how would you do it before pointing finger to others.

Nobody talked about wallet code, even if I asked. You were statig that you found genesis block, but you dont have to look for it, you find it in an src file. So far about coding talk from my hacker friend. They had difficulties with retargeting, where you also ignored an discussion about it, why do they have/had retargeting troubles?

Exactly that. As a developer I'm using libraries, frameworks, plugins, modules, widgets, ui components etc. etc. on a daily base. I think that is positive for the end-product, because you can re-use tested and optimized solutions (in your specific project context) and spent time on things that the end-user actually does experience.

If you want to write it all from scratch (which they obviously did for at least a big part of Gravity) it's more of a business case than a technical case. If you have infinite funds, and so dev time, you could consider it - but imho it would just be a waste.

I'd like to see:
- Stability
- Great gameplay (good look and feel/unique/"addicting")
- Availability (web/android/ios)
- Profitable business concept ;-)
.. don't really care how it's done :-P
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 07, 2016, 06:46:09 PM
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Some basic rules:
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Suchmoon buying Paycoins, that's worth a guess :-) why not take end of june as a deadline? Mid-june to release it. End june in store.

My guess.

1) 5k 20 june and id june whatever
2) ill spent it on buying ion
3) lol

I picked July 20 because it's 30 days after June 20, which would be the latest date falling into a reasonable definition of "mid-June".  So what would be your guess within the rules of the bounty? If you're saying 5k in June then perhaps 10k for July 20?

So far we have one valid entry:

00000000 - pixelpowered

OK, I'll follow up on your advice: 10k downloads ;-)
869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 07, 2016, 08:08:24 AM
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My guess is the first game will not be available in Google Play or AppStore, but a broken alpha version of it will be downloadable from the ionomy website to sideload onto an Android. Download numbers:  probably 40, because every single one of the Paycoin-ION shills and Paycoin-ION-bagholders will get it. Ionomy will not publish the real numbers and talk about "thousands" instead.

Why? If you compare it to similair games it will be much more than 40 - indeed thousands. Why you keep committing to these subjective number? It would be more interesting to really see potential if there is any. I'm not saying it will be the editors pick on Google Play, but I will give the credits if they are earned...
870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 07, 2016, 08:05:52 AM
And there it is. I hope the people that were wrong are man enough to accept it. We'll have to wait for the game, but sure there's something going on. Not just a scam, you don't make this over the weekend.
871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 06, 2016, 10:09:39 PM
dont forget transitcoin made by few paycoin scammers  Grin

yay possibly forking incoming that contradicts the whitepaper. this is the problem with these fully centralized coins. anything can change at will!  Cool
...

ps:


You forgot to include the context/discussion (including some brilliant giphy's)
872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 06, 2016, 10:07:40 PM
I have heard about ION in which some members of the XPY team moved on from the XPY.io platform to make a new coin called ION within the Ionomy platform. Since then, I decided to participate in the ICO at $0.20 USD per ION coin. But now, I can see that prices are below the ICO rate (which means loss of investment) Am I missing something here? Is it because the ION team have not released a game yet, when they promised that at least one would show up? I would like to know about this, because I may have the feeling that this will be the same story as Paycoin.

Unless they convince me with something promising, I may look ION as another XPY  Sad

Game should be released mid/end june. Vid should be out this week. Prices will vary, not much to do about it. Sell for a few cents or hold and wait what itll bring
873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 06, 2016, 10:04:08 PM
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Some basic rules:

1) Number of downloads will be rounded to the nearest hundred, so please post something along the lines of "I think the game will be downloaded 700 times". In case of a tie the earlier guess wins (by bitcointalk post order).
2) If the game doesn't get into Google Play by July 20 then "0" guess wins. Otherwise the nearest guess wins. If nobody participates I'll spend the money on booze so please save me from alcoholism.
3) I'm not responsible for issues preventing the winner from receiving or cashing out the bounty, including but not limited to the wallet being broken, XPY being utterly worthless etc.



1 Due to exchange rate fluctuations it might be worth as little as $0.

Suchmoon buying Paycoins, that's worth a guess :-) why not take end of june as a deadline? Mid-june to release it. End june in store.

My guess.

1) 5k 20 june and id june whatever
2) ill spent it on buying ion
3) lol
874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 06, 2016, 05:52:07 AM
@Phildo; those companies were about $$$ that would've actually been "worth" it ;-)
875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 05, 2016, 10:27:14 AM
I'm on about the only reason that has been given for this coin to work is that somehow they are going to get a piece of the gaming market to make the coin work.

I'm really unsure how they think they are going to get money from casual gamers when they need to take all the steps necessary to use this coin.

How is it a good mid to long term investment? What is the plan for it to work? Why do you think the people that spend money on mobile games would jump through all the hoops necessary to raise the price of ION?

Personally, I think it's just yet another scam coin. Let's see here. What happened again, basically:

A bunch of people got scammed by garza
Those people saw how it easy it was to build a premined scam coin and do the same thing
This is how they are recouping their losses, by creating their own scam coin

Not a lot to really figure out there, the gaming thing is just bullshit, a smokescreen, just like half  the other shit coins out there created to just make BTC out of thin air, they all "promise" something or another, but it's all just bullshit if it's another btc or peercoin or whatever clone. Coins that are different, like Monero, ETH etc etc - Now we are talking about real crypto investments, not just get-rich quick coins like this particularly stinky POS... Tongue

I sit around all the time and go well Fck, if only I didn't have a conscious, I would probably do the same thing - it's really pretty easy, it just takes some work. Or, for a few BTC, you can pay someone to build you a scamcoin too, complete with marketing, fake hero accounts etc etc, probably like Bitstone dev did... Not that I'm condoning that, just saying. I just have to laugh at all the deep thinking going on about this coin - Not putting anyone down, I just think it's funny, cuz I know it's just another stinky scam coin, and it's creators are even stinkier than most. I mean look at this ANN thread. It's basically a giant scam accusation thread now... That's fantastic! Smiley

You may be right, you may be wrong. It's a bit strange to run a (scam)project for months and let everybody gather your personal information and record all sort of stuff, snd then screw them. I know, it doesnt mean you cant be right, i just am confirming that you could not have any conscious.. while the helpfull and welcoming community (imho) suggests the opposite.

You are right that your scenario is possible, but it is not the only one. Therefore the "deep thoughts" :-)

Game vid and dev bounties should be any day now. First game release mid june. Let's go from there on making conclusions.
876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 04, 2016, 10:44:22 PM
I'm on about the only reason that has been given for this coin to work is that somehow they are going to get a piece of the gaming market to make the coin work.

I'm really unsure how they think they are going to get money from casual gamers when they need to take all the steps necessary to use this coin.

How is it a good mid to long term investment? What is the plan for it to work? Why do you think the people that spend money on mobile games would jump through all the hoops necessary to raise the price of ION?

Integrating crypto into game is an existing concept, like gamecredits or digix i guess. From my understanding, which can be wrong, the idea is to integrate crypto/blockchain in a deeper level into the game.

So also you are not setting up a VPS and stuff. Itll be some sort of virtual ingame wallet. This is just conceptual and my idea of how things are presented. There's currently lack of details and i may be completely wrong ;-) hope that is usefull, lol
877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 04, 2016, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: o0o0 link=topic=1443633.msg15078859#msg15078859

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This is lower than the price you got in at.

Me i still have my bitcoins Smiley back from @$280 USD now to what is it 500 something so i guess im a little more than that 0%

EDIT
psst - adam matlack has your btc and its worth more now while your ion is worth less. He's not going to tell you any truth about ion only positive bs even if its doing poorly Smiley. You should be happy though knowing you've made matlack whole on his xpy losses.. even if it takes 100 already scammed xpy people to make at least him whole.

Maybe he could start the matlack foundation and for the low cost of hurting 100 more muggles he can make 1 xpy person whole again.

I did not buy in because the ICO price was 0.25$ and that was higher then my expected price. So I still have my own BTC worth more and can still buy for the price I would expect. Btw, it was hypothetical.

As suchmoon suggested it would be nice to see where money from ico goes, but in general most project dont really account for thus imho. I would like it though, would not even need details.
878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 04, 2016, 11:05:01 AM
9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board. [e]

Bad boy

To be fair, I don't think there is a local board for Gibberish.

Now to get back on topic, ION is firmly on its way to be listed on all major exchanges. The massive trade volume on Yobit must be making them totes jelly:

https://yobit.net/en/trade/ION/BTC


Its because the game isn't out yet.... once that happens... moon.

Blasting aliens is about to make a come back.. it might be a fav of the 80s but this one innovation alone will make ion worth lots. If you don't believe me ask boki he knows where its at. Ion = win!!!

Well. If the game is released, I think the price will rise, yes. This is one out of 3 scenario's.
1) It was fake
2) It failed
3) It succeeds

Personally I do think this is with all crypto projects. You calculate that in when you set your buying price (if any). Multiply the probabillity with the expected price and make your conclusions.

So hypothetical:
1) 25%
2) 50%
3) 25%

When game IS released I'd expect price to go back to 0.25$ (though we have too little details about the game and business model etc):
My buying price would be: 25% x $0.25 = $0.0625, so this includes a 25% scenario that it is a fake project. You need guts and to distinguish to make money in crypto Wink

In your case I guess it would be 0% x 0.01$ = Smiley
879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 04, 2016, 10:50:34 AM
Any bounty dev? Cry Cry Cry

There was supposed to be an update on this on Github. I'll ask on Slack.
880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: June 04, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
And here I thought, and was hoping, that this thread was finally dead. Then yet another paycoiner needs to be heard and keeps it alive. This thread serves no purpose. Team ION will answer ZERO questions and very few people if any aside from the Paycoin200 are going to buy into this coin. Time to flush this shit stain of a thread and let things happen the way we all know they are gonna happen.

Then just stay out of it. Don't you hate all that open, democratic and transparent stuff? Ion would be a good place for you, if so, jk ;-)
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