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Is there a target set for the number of pages full of trashtallk you want to produce? If > 250 I'd say you better hurry.... well, you'll find a way, i'm sure :-)
At least I now added my contribution.
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So I was a way for a little while. But you guys still seem to argue about trading volume or not. What's the point? Let it rest.
See you in a few!
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No, @rdewilde, no one is trying to make themselves "look better" to you or anyone else here, duh!
The question is, why do you insist on making yourself look so stupid?
You are jumping strange conclusions. Bitpop's assumption was wrong, and there's no way he could ever know, so to me that's a fair reason to jump in - and has nothing to do with what you say. I don't let people talk shit about me, do you? I post close to factual information that the lawsuit is not dropped - and I get attacked in return - why do you need to argue any of this? Pure nonsense. Feel free to response, but personally I like to go back ONtopic instead of personal attacking! |
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Right you are, sorry. So why no update on the website since August? Not one person asking Allen for any details? Oh, OK EVERYTHING MUST BE GAWSOME!!!! Because, like I said before, he is simply not allowed to and would risk the lawsuit in general. [..]
I think you're the first to admit it, rdewilde is still all in
Let me remind you, you know nothing. And why would you care anyway, other than make yourself look better? |
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Well then @rdewilde, why not share with the rest of us what you "know?"  That lawsuit is doing fine and false speculation won't help. Obviously some people here have some strange interests in indiscriminately bash the lawsuit and/or Allen. I'd be cautious with these people instead of calling others "shills" |
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Rdewilde, massive shill never quits
Shill for what now? Shill for asking for factual information instead of writing a reply full of unpleasant words? Anyone can do that, will only leave us more puzzled. Saying someone is a scammer/#$%£×! just because using a placeholder face pic, while he put many (!) hours into a class action lawsuit and even more hours communicating all stuff, is not right it me. These are the typical keyboard warriors who will potentially take the full compensation when they turn out to be wrong not leaving anything behind for the man that put it all into works ;-) I hope I am wrong here ofc Allen said there good progress in the case, but he's not allowed to share any details at this stage. Believe it or not. |
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Allen Shinners, the GAWSuit genius seemed to be "throwing" the case all along. At the same time he started the GAWSuit, he posted a FAKE picture of himself on his own "Prestige" website with 2 GAWMiners Criminals. First he filed the GAWsuit in Texas, where lawsuit winners can't even collect damages most of the time, then he moved it to Connecticut. We all thought he was "taking a dive" for Garza -- maybe that's just what he did. I would NOT be surprised if Stu paid off the 4 litigants & all the other customers get to twist in the wind....forever. Maybe that's why Shinners didn't collect the 10% upfront from the SUCKERS. Now he owes them nothing.... NOT ALLEN SHINNERS (Below) ADAM MATLACK JOE MORDICA  Without informational facts to backup the alligations I'd like to see a little more respectfull tone. You're making assumptions based on other unrelated info. The pic was probably just a tempory... i buy photoframes all the time with these in it. In your logic he put up a fake picture to mislead people thinking he was the guy on the picture? Who cares.... |
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That's got me wondering now how exactly it all works http://ia801502.us.archive.org/26/items/gov.uscourts.ctd.112576/gov.uscourts.ctd.112576.docket.htmlThere I see only their attempt to certify it as a class action, but nothing about that being accepted to be so. So what happens if Uncle Stu says to these plaintiffs, okay here's $250,000 each and I will pay your legal bills now fuck off. The thing was never certified a class action (so it seems), he cuts a deal with the 4 plaintiffs, they cancel the suit against him or is it both? They get a nice chunk of change, their lawyers get 1.5 their rate, lawsuit cancelled and everyone walks away. Except all those that thought they were a party to a class action lawsuit. Pure speculation, and imho false. |
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For the non-slackers, gamedev's quote about Gravity: *Gravity Status*
Level design - 100% complete
Leader boards - 90% complete (because it depends on the api)
Death Sequence - 100% complete
API Integration - 75% complete
Gravity Status
Level Design - 100% complete
Level Implementation - 100% complete
Leaderboards - 90% complete (because it depends on the api)
API Integration - 80% complete
Thanks to tvle83 |
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For the non-slackers, gamedev's quote about Gravity: *Gravity Status*
Level design - 100% complete
Leader boards - 90% complete (because it depends on the api)
Death Sequence - 100% complete
API Integration - 75% complete
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Can we please cut the crap?
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what is the last known activity from the Developers or people behind IONOMY? And when was that?
Today, devving on at least ion and probably api integration in Gravity. |
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Would be great to have an entity that is legally authorized to process the transaction without every game dev having to go thru that process and do all the same validations on their customers.....
most game devs do just that... games. ion team is different. they are operating as a money transmitting business + games apple/google stores provide a product/service(non-monetary) for that money and do not need to fulfill banking secrecy acts or other money transmitting regulations. i wonder how they will react to someone turning their payment processor into a money transmitting service with no kyc/aml. i dont know how other gaming coins evade this but to me it looks like you could turn legitimate funds into funding for illegal activities without a trace. very strong move in the day of increased terrorism Yes, so that is where the opportunity is then. As you said: game dev just wanna dev games. That has potential. |
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Don't they have a bunch of ico money they can use to pay to have the vision come to life or is the collected ico a pension fund for them to slowly draw from as a weekly wage?
Yes, there are funds to pay for the vision to be developed, dev fund + ico. So no problems on that. They just dont feel a need to rush things, though the game could use a boost. |
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I never heard someone from team ion promising profitability, especially not in short term. Ofcourse everybody wishes so. Thing I did hear directly is that they want to be longterm (vs rushing, hyping and pumping).
I would say that complying with the rules would be preferrable. I know the team is keen on rules at least in the area where the company is based. I know too little to discuss on it. Hopefully others can as it is a very relevant subject to the project indeed, and to all crypto. I think you should take into account how other succesfull projects handled this
I was referring to WildShark, who is obviously a clown but sadly at the same time the most vocal ionomy representative here and is pumping like there is no tomorrow. I don't think being registered offshore is a legitimate way to bypass AML or securities laws. Long story short, in the US you can offer securities only to "accredited investors" (if you remember Garza's e-mails he was desperately trying to become one but didn't meet the assets/income requirements) or you have to go through a shitload of disclosures if you want to offer it to the general public. And AML requirements are a whole new can of worms. As for other projects, I would guess that they fall into three major categories - carefully avoid any contact with fiat and don't mention "investment" anywhere; naively try to comply with all rules and get buried in paperwork; or just wing it and hope for the best. We all know how that last one works out :-) I think I need to mention that I'm not a lawyer even if I may seem to be playing one on the intertubes. Would be great to have an entity that is legally authorized to process the transaction without every game dev having to go thru that process and do all the same validations on their customers..... |
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Why would the "other stuff" need to be offchain?
I dunno the US legal priorities but in Europe I dont think anyone cares if the ingame purchased tokens are backed by a blockchain or not. Tokens are just tokens. It's important too have this clear before releasing anything ofcourse. I dont know the current state.
Got the feeling Ive been speculating too much, let me remind it is just my idea of how thing could work.
Also Ionomy is not the only crypto project that's monetizing ingame tokens backed by crypto blockchain.
The blockchain itself is not so much the issue, except they're not really using it for anything. I don't know if it needs to be off-chain, just stating the fact that it IS almost entirely off-chain - ionomy, electrons, etc - nothing to do with the blockchain AFAICT. Fair point. It is an ultimate goal to move everything to the blockchain, but because of too little resources (for example time or devs) current version is not. This way the concept can move forward in the interest of endusers. Blockchain and decentralisation would add a lot of awesomeness and trust to that, i agree. The point is, they collected funds (converted into USD apparently), they call the bagholders "investors", they encourage to keep the funds on their website, they solicit (or at least their surrogates do) investments promising "profits", and they expect to make it big. Something's gotta give. They will have to start KYC-ing the bagholders and filing paperwork with the SEC, or they will have to cut the "investment" part off completely and become just a points/rewards system of some sort. Or stay irrelevant forever, I guess that's always an option.
I never heard someone from team ion promising profitability, especially not in short term. Ofcourse everybody wishes so. Thing I did hear directly is that they want to be around longterm (vs rushing, hyping and pumping). I would say that complying with the rules would be preferrable. I know the team is keen on rules at least in the area where the company is based. I know too little to discuss on it. Hopefully others can as it is a very relevant subject to the project indeed, and to all crypto. I think you should take into account how other succesfull projects handled this. |
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Not? I think that is exactly how it would/could work. You dont have to buy electrons, it is optional, probably using google pay or whatever. It is very common to buy ingame these days. You can buy all kind of stuff, also credits like farmbucks (farmville) or "gold coins" etc. I don't see how electrons would be any different? There have been big exchanges (like https://www.virwox.com) around for a long time where you can buy/sell all kind of game credits. Not crypto money though. I never heard one of these games getting into trouble with regulation on it? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Second_Life#Legal_position_of_the_Linden_DollarThat's my point. Regular in-game purchases in a popular game - fine. Convoluted redemption for electrons - meh, most users wouldn't bother, and if that's the main feature it would likely flop. Even if it somehow succeeds you have to wonder why it needs to be tied to crypto if there is nothing crypto about it. You buy or earn points, you redeem them for something or other, all that is off-chain, what does it have to do with cryptocurrency? Now as far as regulation is concerned, in the US the SEC has established itself as the agency that investigates cryptocurrency investments for securities fraud. Coincidentally they also regulate crowdfunding. Not to mention FinCEN requirements. I know the elusive ionomy PTE is supposed to make it look like the US law doesn't apply but I doubt that with the principals and many investors residing in the US the agencies would see it that way. Really the only chance to sneak under the regulatory radar would be for ionomy to remain obscure and irrelevant. They're doing a good job at that so far, I'll give them that. Why would the "other stuff" need to be offchain? I dunno the US legal priorities but in Europe I dont think anyone cares if the ingame purchased tokens are backed by a blockchain or not. Tokens are just tokens. It's important too have this clear before releasing anything ofcourse. I dont know the current state. Got the feeling Ive been speculating too much, let me remind it is just my idea of how thing could work. Also Ionomy is not the only crypto project that's monetizing ingame tokens backed by crypto blockchain. |
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The Ionomy vision will be become clear soon!!!
All your coins are belong to us? That the vision? No, the ION coin belongs to the investor and can be held in a staking wallet, a masternode or on the Ionomy platform. Well as its in no way related to the game what is the point of the coin? I'm no team ion, so this is my view on vision. Short term vision, launch games with api integration as proof of concept and ofcourse fun game, maybe some market buys. Long term launch a game currency with functionality on blockchain/coincode and platform. There are much details and possibilities here that i dont know or still has to be finalized in terms of vision (and development). To get an idea of context check gamecredits, breakout coin, etherplay and peerplay. |
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In all seriousness from what I gather, the coin was needed for an ICO to raise funds for the game development.
No there's more to it. It needs development on the coincode. Ofcourse it is not impossible on existing coins, but this one has veto rights :-) |
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