It is a historical record and a moral/ethical rubric with ritualistic observations of a higher power. I cannot apologize for the actions of those before me, as I had no input. History is indeed fucked up. And when I wake up every day and read the news, I see we may be due to repeat our mistakes. We apparently don't learn. That why you and I are talking right now

Man is nothing without faith. You may have replaced my God with your Science, but we both need to understand that there is something greater than ourselves, lest our life have little meaning. The life of a bug has little meaning.

Are you a bug, afnewbie? (Can't underscore, on a phone, don't know how at least LOL)

Rational thought and faith are not mutually exclusive man. There is room in my world for you. Invite me to yours.

And I'm not a Luddite, I believe in technology/medicine. But I believe in a higher power. We are obviously created things.

Edit: used to ride the bus with a Jain and a Sikh. The Jain was a cute chick that was a grade above me, the Sikh a side a grade below me. Both cool as shit. I like meat a bit too much for Jainism, and I don't completely believe in overt pacifism. Never talked to Ramen about his faith, can't contribute.

I different a bit. While a lot of people will likely squander their money on bullshit, there will be some that use the immense capital gain to start serious businesses. Like Coinbase or Kraken, these are pretty large, decent hiring, tax paying corps that are generating revenue for the Fed and State in a meaningful way. That job creation, tax revenue and promotion of widespread adoption are some seriously positive takeaways. Not the biggest chunk of Mammon in the world, but a nice one, at least.

I'll be honest and say the majority of early adopter bitcoin will be used on Thai hookers and blow. But 1 or 2 people incentivized to use the value the right way, could effect a huge change.

Slightly off topic, I remember reading an article somewhere saying shady types were paying a small premium on 'virgin' coins, that is, coins that have not been moved extensively since they were mined, sold on paper wallets. I assume this would be one of the ways to remain truly anon, it seems a little over the top to me. Is anyone aware if this is still a thing?

This might be some Reddit bullshitery, but I feel like I came across this on one of the bitcoin news sites.

Here's a surefire way to double your money, since these markets are some of the most highly manipulated markets one can participate in...

1) Send your bitcoin to an exchange.

2) Buy ETH with it.

3) Use that ETH to purchase some random ETH crowdsale token.

4) Sell it in the inevitable 3-4x hype bubble that is every cryptocutrency asset (we go full retard, every time. Observe BAT, SNT, REP.. back to NEOBEE, ASICMINER, SATOSHIDICE)

5) Convert back to bitcoin, and you're all done

That was easy

Or you can pass go and just send it all to me. I have property in sunny Nicaragua that's a bargain, I promise. Easy 100x returns, guaranteed.

This blew my fucking mind.

This thing is like a bear trap for a dick. A fucking jigsaw death trap for a guys junk. I poured over this picture, simply intrigued. This, is a woman scorned. This is the reason you dont piss of females, they bring shit like this to the gestalt.

Look at the teeth on that motherfucker. Those are giant plastic fish hooks. Giant plastic fucking fish hooks. Im not really into rape, but I shudder to know that thing lurks among us, taking out more dick than Bobbitt at a Ronco knife convention. An iron maiden, made specifcally for penis.

If neccesity breeds invention, sweet Jesus, what the fuck type of necessity bred that?

And I have the best mental image of a random woman furiously scribbling schematics and cackling. This made my day. Worse.

Well, I have studied the texts of the Abrahamics as well, as I have studied the Key of Solomon, the Necromnicon. I have read translated codexs.  I plainly disagree, they are all beautiful texts (the Abrahamics) that provide a framework for peace and compassion. Our father Abraham made sure of this. This is why his name is attributed to those works. Although this may mean little to you, it means a lot to me, and our difference of opinion is fine. It's what makes all this shit so beautiful, the fact that you and I are such different things in the same world.

All ideologies, at their most extreme end of scale, engender an 'us vs them' attitude. It ties to esotericism, but you must reveal this truth to yourself. Hence esoteric

You are a nationalist, yes? Is this school of ideology not the literal definition of 'us vs them'? Do you feel that your views and opinions influences by said ideology are 'fundamentally wrong'?

Provide a text that you believe is 'not vile'. Genuinely curious

You are talking about race, not ideas. Be plain sir. We have had fellow humans perish for things that they had no say in, if that injustice doesn't strike you as a travesty, maybe you should reconsider your definition of vile.

This is not an ad hominem.

Although OP is clearly fucking insane, as evidenced by the shit spree/topic selection, he or she does have a point. I made an argument to EchoYuHatesBlacks about the origination of civilization from Africa (side note: strong suspect this is the same dude). Just realized that evil originated with man (posted recently in the 'one world currency = bitcoin thread). The mark of the beast is indeed the mark of man. Evil originated in the Garden, the Garden was the source of us all. So where man came from, surely was the source. Since I agree that's Africa, I begrudging agree with this thread title.

You get a reluctant cookie.

*takes back, breaks in half*

Here, you don't get the whole thing

I'm American, and not offended. Y'all have every right to be mad

We aren't stupid. But our lowest common denominator is ignorant as fuck. A little while ago, our media started to realize that they could define truth, through consensus. All media outlets abuse this particular weakness of public attention, but some outlets disseminate highly biased, partisan news that is not politically correct or even factually correct, for that matter. Half of our population feels so marginalized that they take comfort in this 'news' that makes them afraid of their neighbors and fellow citizens, because a lobbying agency told a media outlet to tell them those people are trying to hurt them. They vote for idiot ass policies that ultimately harm them, but it's OK; the media, the 'real' media (you have to define yourself as the only voice of truth if you want people to accept your lies as consensus) said it was for your best interest.

You will always be defined as a group, by tour lowest common denominator. It doesn't matter if it's ten people to a million, but a group will always be characterized by its weakest link.

Ask a Black person or a Muslim.

It's America's time to eat shit. The current state of America is the will of the people As my favorite current president once said, along with my favorite book, 'you reap what you sow'.

I don't think we want this harvest.

Why is it every time someone would cite statistics on Islam, y'all always choose some bigoted, biased ass site to cite as 'facts', yet will completely ignore  academic studies by universities, or commissioned reports by the fucking government? Fake new my Black ass, you guys refuse to see the truth. It is not for me to judge you. Your reward will come at the end if your days

Hand raised for everyone in this thread that actually knows a Muslim person, not someone you pass on the fucking street, but a friend, a coworker. Go say all this stupid shit to their face get put on Facebook looking like a goddamned fool, so you can lose your job.

Y'all sound like bigoted assholes. Fucking people died. Stop being a fucking racist people, and have some fodsames compassion for your fellow fucking humans.

Christians my motherfucking ass 

For one, the USD will never devalue. The world will prop up the dollar because the dollar simply cannot fail; too much of the global market depends on the dollar, and all would suffer if the dollar significantly devalued.  Entertaining your hypothetical however, you would see precious metals and cryptocutrencies spike to the fucking moon as people used them as safe haven assets. That wouldn't be that great though, because the global calamity that a dollar crash would cause would outstrip the warm fuzzy feeling from making 30x profit. Stock markets would crash globally, inflation would go rampant on USD pegged fiats, and we would no longer be able to repay our debt, which would eventually kill our credit rating. This would have a tremendous effect on our bond markets, not a good one.

Let's explore. I'm Christian, have thought about this at length.


1) bitcoin is decentralized
If we unite under a global government, we would pretty much have to adopt a fiat, or something issued from a centralized authority

2) wallet addresses wouldn't make good tattoos

3) the global state of Politics is not ready for the cooperation required to foster a world government

4) there are no actors present that meet the qualifications for the Christian or Islamic Antichrist.

5) Israel and Palestine have not made peace.

Basically, aside from bitcoin not being suited to be a national currency (no crypto will be, unless you can print fiat off the blockchain, this would be the last choice, in its present form. Moreso, the signs of the times don't seem like they are anywhere near coming to pass, we are too fractious at the moment.

And something I've always found interesting: the mark of the beast and the mark of man are the same, 666. 

Alright, let's consider that. You need money to purchase things, it's symbolic tokenized value.

What would you purchase in space, and from whom?

Another caveat. Money on Earth, fiat at least,  tends to be small pieces of paper or small disc of metal. Assuming we contacted intelligent life,  and for some odd reason they were itching at the bits to sell shit to a new alien race they has just met, what would they do with small pieces of paper and little pieces of metal?

Fiat is only a symbolic store of wealth, just like bitcoin. They have no real world functionality, bitcoin is even worse for this than fiat. Unless you are going to start a fire with a stack of tender, or plink dimes at children's heads at the park, money is only good for being money. Our money used to be made out of useful materials like gold and silveer, but meh You can't manipulate specie like you can numbers in a database..

TLDR: The aliens won't be able to make change.

Above the fact that no sane government will allow a decentralized, non regulatable currency to be 'the' currency', bitcoin and fiat don't really serve the same purpose. Yeah, they are both money, duh, but you can't hold a bitcoin in your hand. Nor can you make a bitcoin transaction while you don't have an internet connection. As useful as bitcoin is, its benefits rapidly degrade in a mostly offline world. Physical possession of the token (fiat) will always trump some numbers on a blockchain.

The wallet in your jeans pocket will never get stolen because of a virus. The 20 bucks fiat you have will still be 20 bucks when you wake up the next day. And most importantly to me, there is not a giant ass online record of what's in my wallet that everyone can peruse at their leisure

We are still 'bubbling' so to speak, and the fees and congestion at the moment are making some of the alts a lot more useful. I'll be damned if I send a btc transaction nowadays, I'm sending that shit as ETH because a) it's going to get there quickly, and b) the fees are a fraction of its bitcoin equivalent. I'll use Doge or LTC in a heartbeat. Even if you totally ignore the fee situation, the speed of confirmations makes it worth it if you need to get shit done, ASAP.

It hurts to watch the price drop on an alt while you have 1 of 3 confirms

Depends on the subject and curriculum level, but I should be able to accommodate you. Shoot me a PM, if you will, with details, and we will see what we can do.

Will you be using escrow?


Check mah trust

I'm old school, I'm of the mind that if you don't have the key, you don't control the coins. For this reason, I'm not too fond of online wallets, especially exchanges, but I will store a token amount of coins on Polo in case I need to make a trade quickly (waiting for confirms will absolutely kill your trades, trust me). I will also occasionally store a significant amount of coin on Coinbase. But the lion's share goes straight to my KeepKey. Hardware wallets are just really easy, and really secure. Been hacked very significantly once, not trying to experience all that again

Let's expand that to the current state of corporate farming. If you saw the condition of the animals (specifically chickens and pigs, cows aren't much better) you wouldn't eat that shit. I live rurally, there are literally like 10 chicken producers in a 5 mile radius. When you drive by the trucks, you understand. The birds are like a giant wound on the bottom. No feathers, irrirated skin, and they don't move. They just kinda sit there and stare ahead. I don't think they can stand

There is indeed evidence of Russian interference in our election. You may not believe the June/July ahared intel assesment, but the Reality Winner leaks concretely prove that there is intelligence we simply haven't seen yet. The additional leaks about the 29 state interference is most likely an actual leaked intel report. But I will concede it has not been verified yet. The arrest and subsequent prosecution of Miss Winner (such a not apt name, LOL) makes it obvious that the document she leaked was legitimate.

You are absolutely correct about there not being concrete evidence of collusion, though.

Oh, I'm not personally scared. I'm Black. I have more chance of having a poor interaction with the cops, than succumbing to radical Islamic terror. Slightly higher chance of being domestically terrorized. You guys are kind of proving my point. We have it wrapped up in our heads that Muslims are the whole of terror (at least this subforum does). This terrorism shit is turned up across the board at this point. We got the left terrorizing folks, the right, Muslims killing Muslims, Christians, and Christians killing Muslims. It's fucking open season on the public right now, the global political climate is facilitating  a culture of violence that is seemingly escalating.

My particular, initial point was that  terror as a motive is largely dismissed if the perpetrators are White, or if the victims are non white. In the White perpetrator case, the ideological school is dismissed for the 'lone crazy' very often.

Please don't conflate my pointing out an issue with my level of personal concern. Suffice it to say I have a very high level of safety; it's why I feel comfortable discussing Politics so plainly with my actual persona. People are cute with that death threat shit nowadays, but I've never experienced anything like that personally.

But my theory will be tested very soon. A terror attack against Muslims in London just happened, same MO, a van. Let us see how the media cycle treats this, I'm curious genuinely.

I'm not being a Islamic terror apologist, far from it. I sense a push back from some of the more conservative elements in the community because of this perception. I'm more of a 'let's call a spade a spade' kind of guy. If we are going to complain about terror, shut the fuck up unless we are going to address all forms of terror. Terrorism is weaponized fear. No one cultural group has a monopoly on this. If you don't recognize this, you are employing dog whistle rhetoric. Basically, you hate a fucking Muslim but this is a societally acceptable way to discuss that dissatisfaction. That's racism, if you are going to be racist be real with the shit. Mad props to the guys here that are openly hostile to Muslims, I respect the fuck out of your honesty.


But I will say, ISIS is 'killing it', they are high on the leaderboards this round.

More truth than you know

Another terror attack in London, in the last few hours. The method was the same, they used a vehicle to RAM into civilians, then tried to abscond.

The difference this time? This terror attack happened outside a mosque. The victims were most likely Muslim.

Y'all, fuck man, this is just getting worse and worse.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates

A van has driven into a crowd of worshippers after they left a mosque in north London in what police described as a “major incident

Police have confirmed a number of casualties after the collision which happened at about 12.20am on Monday. Witnesses reported seeing up to 10 injured.

The white van hit people outside the Muslim Welfare House on Seven Sisters Road. Two witnesses reported seeing three people leave the van.

Prime minister Theresa May said police are treating the van incident near Finsbury Park “as a potential terrorist attack”, adding: “I will chair an emergency meeting later this morning. All my thoughts are with the victims, their families and the emergency services on the scene.”

Witnesses have told Sky News that an imam from the mosque protected the driver of the van from angry members of the public until the police could arrive.