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1041  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: March 03, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
Always having to "REFRESH"
the BitFinex order page urks me,
can't you guys PUSH the data ?
Just run http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd in a different window, the data on bitfinex itself is often old anyways.
1042  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: March 03, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
normall putting and withdrawal bitfinex will charge 10usd.. what about deposits now?
No so far as I know they never charged for deposits. Why should they?!
1043  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: March 03, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
You maybe confuse deposits (pushing money to Bitfinex from your account) with withdrawals (pulling money from Bitfinex to your account)?
1044  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Development: Lack of Progress? on: March 03, 2014, 04:17:43 AM
I really like the idea of Ripple, but the current problem I have with it is there seems to be no way to verify how many ripples exist.
https://ripple.com/wiki/RPC_API#account_info
https://ripple.com/tools/info
You're free to verify this and more also by running your own node.

Yes, I've looked over some of Ripple's documentation. How does a node verify the amount of XRP in existence? From what I could see the basis is supposedly a "genesis ledger" as opposed to a genesis block, but there seems to be no way to access the genesis ledger.
Ripple uses something similar to a block chain with UTXO set attached, called ledger.

The oldest available ledger is #32570 (with about 100 entries) so this is currently the genesis one, the older ones are presumably lost or at least not available until JoelKatz finally publishes the transactions that took place in these first 1 1/2 weeks so these ledgers can be restored back to 0. Since then there is a unbroken hashed chain of headers (also cryptographically linked to the transactions and account state at each point of time). Nodes verify this by getting the most recent finalized ledger and continuing from there. Since transactions in Ripple only operate on account balances, not on inputs like Bitcoin, and you can only branch at the top not "mine" on an earlier "block", there is no explicit need for keeping history, not even headers.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: If someone buys Bitcoin today, they'll be lucky to see a 300%+ ROI. on: March 03, 2014, 03:54:26 AM
There is a concerted effort by ripple and its backers to criticize bitcoin and to try to make it look weak and vulnerable. Spreading FUD far and wide.

Is this a recent phenomenon or has this been ongoing?
So far I just see you trolling:
Hi, I'm a ripple troll and bitcoins are going to SELF DESTRUCT!

SELL NOW!

NOW!

That is all.
1046  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Development: Lack of Progress? on: March 03, 2014, 03:50:32 AM
I really like the idea of Ripple, but the current problem I have with it is there seems to be no way to verify how many ripples exist.
https://ripple.com/wiki/RPC_API#account_info
https://ripple.com/tools/info
You're free to verify this and more also by running your own node.
There is also a bunched together amount released by RippleLabs (https://www.ripplelabs.com/xrp-distribution/) with no further/cryptographically verifiable proof behind that. It looks like about in the right ballpark though, from looking at the distribution of XRP between wallets atm.

Unlike Bitcoin, Ripple does not mainly exist to transact XRP (ripples) though, it mainly exists to facilitade trade. Some people here seem to have a similar vision in mind for BTC (using them as "bridging, globally accepted" currency to make transactions faster by buying them on one end and selling them on the other) so these might feel a bit threatened by XRP than others - if you are interested however in using ONLY bitcoins or holding them for longer periods of time, ignoring XRP and pushing for Ripple is a smart move imho.
1047  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: March 02, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
I want to verify my account, as I have a lot (in %) of my money on BTX.

[...]

Idea: I currently have no 2F-auth enabled because of practical reasons. (stupid, I know)

If you already know that this is stupid, why do it? And why ask for this option which others (that might not even know that this is stupid!) might enable?

Also I personally would probably just withdraw the money as BTC instead of going through the hassle with apostilles etc. and exchange them to EUR, I don't see any advantage of sending them documents in advance just because I have money there... but do as you like!
1048  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: March 01, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
You get interest only once a day around midnight or 1 am UTC.
1049  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Börsen und das Vertrauen on: March 01, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
Wenn man ordentlich arbeitet, werden Einzahlungen auf offline-Wallets vorgenommen und man sendet von dort alle paar Stunden oder so genug Funds an die online-Wallet um die Auszahlungen vorzunehmen.

Eine Woche auf BTC warten, nur weil irgendjemand meint, seine Konkurrenten ausbremsen zu können (Funds abheben? Ok, ich mach erstmal Mittagspause, ich unterschreib das dann nach dem Wochenende...) ist nix für mich, aber natürlich ein mögliches Konzept.
1050  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Börsen und das Vertrauen on: March 01, 2014, 12:34:24 PM
Sie muss im Verbund mit vielen unabhängigen(!) Börsen arbeiten und muss die BTC so verwahren, dass sie nur durch Mehrheitsbeschluss der Börsenbetreiber bewegt werden können.
Wie soll man da täglich oder noch häufiger die Hotwallet(s) nachfüllen, wenn man erstmal einen conference call braucht?!
1051  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Verkaufe GinaWild Coins [GWC] on: March 01, 2014, 12:25:33 PM
Sonst noch jemand Lust gescammt zu werden?! Roll Eyes

Wenn man "GWC" in Ripple haben will, weil man den Namen lustig findet oder warum auch immer, kann man die sich auch gratis zusenden... Was hier versucht wird, ist etwas komplett kostenloses um BTC zu verkaufen, nur indem man "coin" an einen beliebigen Namen anhängt.

Edit:
Im Thread hier gings ursprünglich um "GinaWildCoins" die auf Ripple herausgegeben wurden und um BTC verkauft werden sollten - ohne offensichtliche Rücktauschmöglichkeit.
1052  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 09:59:25 PM
since bitfinex is a meta exchange, the proof I have the coin thing could be harder to implement.  At any moment, some coins can be at bitstamp.
They could announce that e.g. on May 1st they will be down for auditing and maintenance for 24 hours and no positions are allowed to be opened on this date or longer. Actually one day downtime every quarter to check if their books actually do balance and so on would make me more confident than the inconvenience this would of course cause.

Also it happened more than once that funds ran out on Bitstamp (though mostly USD, not BTC) without causing too much problems - if pre-announced, once withdrawing from and asap replenishing the Bitstamp wallet should not be too much of a hassle? Since you can send back coins as soon as you know the transaction, you'd only have to wait for 7 confirmations (~1 hour) anyways - Bitfinex might even be able to cover this time with their own funds in the meantime.

How do I move btc from trading to deposit? I have updated my account to be a deposit account.

click "manage wallets" button

Worked it out. thanks for your help.

How do I insure my liquidity swap?
Click on Options when creating your offer and select if you want it insured, insured if there is some insurance liquidity left or (default) uninsured.
1053  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
Make a anonymized user list (I'll explain this below), publically post this list of users and their btc account balance, then sign messages to prove ownership of cold wallets.
Anonymized or not, they could simply lie - as long as some users are not checking that they are actually on that list and verify their amounts Bitfinex might get away with leaving out somebody...

However, yes, a list with some kind of hash (so I can use information I have to see which balance belongs to my account) and a balance attached for every account would be a great first step to see how many BTC/LTC/USD are actually deposited on Bitfinex in total.
1054  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 01:05:37 PM
I don't think you do really understand how Bitcoin works or what hot/cold wallet means... the only thing that changes after the first transaction out of a cold wallet is that the public key of that address is now known. As long as you trust in ECDSA, this is not really an issue. Also it is easy to see (if you look at where the transactions to the hot wallet come from) if they use a single address or several ones.
1055  Local / Biete / Re: [B] 60 GB SSD on: February 28, 2014, 11:07:32 AM
Dann schraub dein Gehäuse auf, häng das Ding schnell mal an einen freien SATA Port und mach die Benchmarks... Roll Eyes

Ansonsten: 0.02 BTC incl. Versand (Luftpolsterbrief) nach AT. Einbauwinkel brauche ich nicht.
1056  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 10:21:47 AM
I said what I would expect, not what it currently does.

What if you have two 600USD orders (one for LTC, one for BTC) open? Should it then buy 1000 (since this is all that is available), 400 (since after one trade, the other order cannot go through as a whole and only be partially filled), 0 (as in total 1200USD are used for orders), sell 200 (since the balance would be -200 USD)?

Again, "BUY ALL" means "Take everything that is available RIGHT NOW and buy all of it", not "Check if there might be eventually something bought far in the future, calculate the remainder and buy only that amount". With Greasemonkey by the way, you can implement something with the functionality that you want to have client side...
1057  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 09:46:01 AM
So you are saying that its much better for users to do multiple clicks in their calculator than bitfinex implimenting a simple calculation in their website?
It is not always clear which orders should be subtracted for the next order and which shouldn't. If I click "BUY ALL", I for example would even expect it to cancel any open order and just put in a market buy order with the maximum amount possible.
1058  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 09:17:10 AM
Send a mail to the support then, this thread is not an official way to contact Bitfinex.
1059  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Solution for MTGOX. on: February 28, 2014, 09:16:15 AM
How can it be frozen! It's unregulated cryptocurrency and super secure and safe and awesome!
Police gets magic piece of paper signed.

Police goes to bank, takes out paper wallet from deposit box.

--> Cold wallets frozen.

You don't need to be police by the way to do that necessarily...
1060  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 28, 2014, 09:04:30 AM
You are seriously complaining that you need to calculate a simple subtraction?! Shocked
Also you can just use market orders, then your available balance will go down.

Since you can trade in more than one market with your balances, you can not freeze part of them just for a limit order that might never be executed in the first place.
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