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1221  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: BTC in Paypal "umwandeln" - wo? on: February 03, 2014, 08:11:18 PM
Eventuell zahlt Virwox auch auf PP aus...?

Ich würde aber stark empfehlen, auf SEPA auszuzahlen und dann eben PayPal als "normaler" Kunde von deinem Bankkonto/Kreditkarte aus zu verwenden.
1222  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Wer schnell mal Ripple probieren will... on: February 03, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
XRP sind die Stempelmarken, die auf diese "Zettel" geklebt werden, damit sie gültig sind. An und für sich sind sie wertlos, haben aber einen gewissen Nutzen, deswegen werden sie um einen gewissen Preis gehandelt. Ich persönlich sehe XRP auch nicht als "Investment" an, es gibt aber eben sogar Leute, die Überraschungseifiguren nach Wert beurteilen... von daher - "who am I to judge?"

Ripple versucht auch eben (anders als im Beispiel) hautsächlich Währungen zu handeln und keine Güter. Auch Banken vertrauen sich zu einem gewissen Grad untereinander - aber nicht genug, dass es nur mehr eine einzige Weltbank gibt. Ebenso ist es in Ripple. Gateways könenn sich auch gegenseitig vertrauen, werden das aber wohl kaum für Riesenbeträge tun.

Ripple ist bereits eine Exchange (und im Gegensatz zu Bitstamp z.B. gibt's dort auch keine Downtimes...), lieber als MtGox hätte ich z.B. Paysafecard als Gateway.
1223  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 03, 2014, 07:24:44 PM
Everyone hates America, but everyone has dreams of "Coming to America", why ?
Because your neighbouring countries and the ones down in the south are great.

Anyways, could we please get back on topic instead of "discussing" the US of A?
1224  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] $1000 Referral BITCOIN SECURITY ENFORCER NEEDED FOR MASTERCOIN PROJECTS on: February 03, 2014, 04:40:33 PM
Too bad I don't meet the requirements Sad. Good luck finding somebody who does!
Dude, I just refered you! Angry

Now get out there, send in your CV and GET THAT JOB!!!
1225  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] $1000 Referral BITCOIN SECURITY ENFORCER NEEDED FOR MASTERCOIN PROJECTS on: February 03, 2014, 02:57:01 PM
Are you looking for someone who has previous experience with a similar job? I might be interested but I've never had a similar job. I have been involved with big websites before as a platform manager, marketing & sales etc.
I refer the guy quoted! Tongue
1226  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 03, 2014, 01:06:52 PM
That's how it looks like when people learn about thread safety and atomicity for the first time in their life - AFTER coding an exchange platform. Roll Eyes

Just try it out, there is an API after all...

Also for the record,
Tomorrow, Tuesday,
will make 1-week from
Wednesday last week the 29th
since I made my withdrawal request.

You guys need to really take a look at
that new withdrawal policy you have implemented,
Don't see how anyone could think that is good business practice,
You are only going to lose customers behind having a police like this in place.

Seriously !
Today, Monday, is the second business day since your withdrawal request (Friday was a national holiday in HK).
1227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple question: Can I charge interest? on: February 03, 2014, 07:43:12 AM
Charge interest as what?

If you are the gateway (people deposit whatever you represent on Ripple itself, e.g. they give you USD) you can set a "transfer fee" which is similar to the trading fees on centralized exchanges - for example 0.2% of any balance with Bitstamp are sent back to Bitstamp (you need to send 100.2 USD to make 100 USD appear at the other end). This however will only be charged once the money is moved. There might be a chance once contracts are implemented to regularly deduct interest - at the moment, something like demurrage for Freicoin is not easily possible. Especially since Ripple does not trace individual coins, like Bitcoin does.

Charging interest as customer of a gateway (e.g. you have deposited something that regularly gives interest - e.g. a stock with dividends - and want to receive parts or all of this interest in Ripple) is not built in but possible. Since every balance is public, the gateway can manually send out payments to everyone eligible whenever interest is due. You cannot "charge" the gateway for the money though (in a "pull" sense), it will be "pushed" to you from the gateway. How this happens e.g. in the stock/dividend example is up to your agreement with the gateway, they could send you USD or they could send you fractions of that stock instead.
1228  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 03, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
Edit:
He means doing something with the _private_ data, not the public one. Thanks a lot for your graphs by the way!

I'm kinda bored so I was thinking about coding a small page for processing & plotting history data (which can be downloaded from bitfinex with the javascript code I wrote). Would anyone be interested? If yes, what graphs and data would be helpfull?
 

@Bitfinex: Or will some kind of improved stats&analysis page be introduced in the near future?

A while back I wrote a converter from the JSON file your code provides into ledger-cli format. With ledger you can then create gnuplot reports and/or do other stuff. Graphs are a bit underrepresented there unfortunately, but at least once you bild something for it, it benefits anyone using the program, not just bitfinex customers.

In the "Beta" thread, I also released a Google spreadsheet with stats/charts, way back - I stopped updating my perosnal one though and it might not work as expected... I personally went the ledger route.

An API to get my own data would be far better than anything else, even just a CSV file for example that just contains whatever is displayed on the history tab!
1229  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 02, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
Please stop spamming and read the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_day instead.

Edit:
Also if you need money urgently, why do you withdraw with the slower method that does not guarantee delivery before you move away? Anyways, I hope everything works out for you.


Respectfully, I would prefer not to have any business with this kind of customers.


When you guys stop living with your parents, we might start to respect your opinions, as previously mention, in the USA we leave home at the age of 18 years old, that was many moons ago, whereas you guys live with your parents all your life never learning responsibility simply waiting for your parents to die to inherit the house that your Great-Great-GrandFather built, who was probably the only person in your family that ever knew what it meant to be an adult and make your own way in the world because every since then you have all been living in the same house, you could never survive in the USA because your mind has never developed into a adult's mind, basically a child's mind inside of a adult's body, it's that way in the majority third world countries, children that never really grow up and learn responsibility, never having left home in your entire life beside a school or college field trip, pathetic children !  
Hm, hopefully you feel better after ranting now? Roll Eyes Assume what you want about me, I certainly know what I assume about you... I'd better keep it to myself though.

In other news:
Interest rates are finally up a little bit and USD borrowed are at a new all time high!


Sounds like I hit a nerve,
Right on target, just as I thought,
Freaking Children !

You are speaking with a grown man with kids,
Don't have time to carry-on with un-developed minds,
Guess that would make sense being that you're from "Third World Un-Developed Countries"

Careful a little gift from the USA, the next "TomaHawk Cruise Missile" or un-manned  "Drone" just may be coming your way,
Freaking Muslim Terrorists trading BitCoin !
Dude, whatever stuff you're on take it a notch down and enjoy a nice Sunday with your wife...
1230  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 02, 2014, 05:41:11 PM
Please stop spamming and read the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_day instead.

Edit:
Also if you need money urgently, why do you withdraw with the slower method that does not guarantee delivery before you move away? Anyways, I hope everything works out for you.


Respectfully, I would prefer not to have any business with this kind of customers.


When you guys stop living with your parents, we might start to respect your opinions, as previously mention, in the USA we leave home at the age of 18 years old, that was many moons ago, whereas you guys live with your parents all your life never learning responsibility simply waiting for your parents to die to inherit the house that your Great-Great-GrandFather built, who was probably the only person in your family that ever knew what it meant to be an adult and make your own way in the world because every since then you have all been living in the same house, you could never survive in the USA because your mind has never developed into a adult's mind, basically a child's mind inside of a adult's body, it's that way in the majority third world countries, children that never really grow up and learn responsibility, never having left home in your entire life beside a school or college field trip, pathetic children !  
Hm, hopefully you feel better after ranting now? Roll Eyes Assume what you want about me, I certainly know what I assume about you... I'd better keep it to myself though.

In other news:
Interest rates are finally up a little bit and USD borrowed are at a new all time high!
1231  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DACs on: February 02, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Well, a simple pyramid scheme might already work with some simple contract (e.g. pay 1% of all holdings to everybody who contributed to the stash once a week until you run out of money).

Slightly more complex stuff (an example could be to operate an autonomous blog, where you can get paid as author depending on how popular your contribution is and how much ad money/other income it generates) is probably also possible - but once you get into even more complex scenarios defining the algorithms etc. is probably much more work than to just trusting someone to do it in meatspace.
1232  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can crypto-transaction networks function without a built-in currency? on: February 02, 2014, 04:02:33 PM
You haven't answered my question. How do nodes verify that a person making a transaction actually owns the external unit? And how do you prevent that person from spending that external unit elsewhere outside of the network? Since it's external, and the transaction only happens on the network, the unit itself hasn't actually changed hands. The original owner still possesses it, and the new owner has no way of physically obtaining it. Explain how this problem can be solved without requiring a central depository.
Well, as you even say so: stuff that is EXTERNAL to the network cannot be controlled BY the network of course.

The central depository then could be the network itself for example, as long as money is viewed as something (ultimately) physical that cannot be created by anyone within some limits though, this is going to be very difficult. If the thing transferred is pieces of data, computation or something like that, you might have better chances.
1233  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 02, 2014, 01:09:40 PM
Please stop spamming and read the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_day instead.

Edit:
Also if you need money urgently, why do you withdraw with the slower method that does not guarantee delivery before you move away? Anyways, I hope everything works out for you.
1234  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: February 01, 2014, 05:09:22 PM
Meanwhile, there are 45231284858326638837332416019018714005014673546513634524455141852155 possible Bitcoin keypairs.
Do you have mathematic proof for this or are you just guessing that really every point on that curve can be reached?
1235  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How Do I Find a Qualified Programmer on: February 01, 2014, 05:06:02 PM
http://www.cs.uni.edu/~wallingf/blog/archives/monthly/2010-12.html
Check the entry down at the bottom...

If you have no idea how to do stuff, you're going to have a bad time. Try to do something you actually are competent in and try to succeed there or learn for yourself. Programming ATMs, web wallets etc. is nothing that can be done just like that and that is VERY hard to estimate the scope of for example. Also competent programmers aren't cheap and usually not looking to work for people who have no idea what qualities they are actually are looking for.

Sorry that this sound so harsh, but just imagine something you are very good in and then some random programmer coming up and saying "I have no idea how that's done, but I want to do several highly difficult things, where can I find someone to do this for me?".
1236  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: February 01, 2014, 01:39:00 PM
Well, not exactly, what he's doing there is (as far as I understand it) to set a few thousand checkpoints, then create keys and check if they are close to these points - if they are close enough, report them to get paid.

The idea is that you'd get about the same number of keys close to any of these points (as long as they are equally spaced I guess). It's kinda the opposite of what I suggested - not looking at existing keys and see if they show some non-uniform behaviour but creating keys and trying to see how close they are to some points.
1237  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: February 01, 2014, 10:32:42 AM
[serious] Is there a way to visualize distribution of public keys somehow? It might be worthwhile to analyze pubkeys on Bitcoin and other Altcoin block chains that all use the same curve and look for anomalies.

As far as I get this project, it is kinda close to vanitygen and will only find keys that are by _very_ bad luck close to some predefined checkpoints. The question is now if it might be possible to find checkpoints that are close (maybe a bit similar to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuSnY_O8DqQ) to a lot of generated keys, because there might be a bias in how they are generated - or worse, in the underlying mathematics that forces them closer together than necessary.

This will ONLY work if keys are actually NOT uniformly distributed, something which the OP claims has not really been looked into so far.
1238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to do Send Mass Payment in Ripple? on: January 31, 2014, 10:14:19 PM
There is no equivalent to Bitcoin's "sendmany" in Ripple, every transaction has a single start and end point. You'll need to generate several transactions in quick succession and submit them.
1239  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: January 31, 2014, 09:33:38 AM
Just as a heads-up: Bitfinex seems to have changed their API so it now shows always a combined order book of Bitstamp AND Bitfinex with no way to distinguish between them. Please disable their charts until this is sorted out, as the volume and depth displayed is just wrong that way.
1240  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] chainsnort (cross-platform console transaction monitor) on: January 30, 2014, 11:50:30 PM
... seriously?! This is hardly more than a few dozen lines of code. Roll Eyes

Anyways, please open a proper development environment on github, so we can also improve this. On the other hand it is just a websocket listener that reformats stuff a little bit so far...
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