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1841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 29, 2022, 03:43:23 AM
How much money USACA get from the ICC anyway?

Last I heard they were going bankrupt and ICC had to stop their funding because of irregularity in their financial accounts. Don't know what happened after that but it wasn't a hunky dory situation for them.

The USACA gets more than other associate nations such as Nepal and Papua New Guinea, because the United States is a "priority area" for the ICC. I am not sure about the exact allocation, but it is definitely more than $1 million per year (Nepal receives around $200,000 per year). The USACA uses most of this amount to "buy" players from West Indies and South Asia. A large part of their national team players are former U-19 players from West Indies and Pakistan, as well as a few first-class and international players. And a significant share of the funds get stolen, and that is the reason why they are facing bankruptcy.
Not sure if it's a correct assessment.

I remember reading a USACA bankruptcy report last month or so and it looked like ICC stopped USACA funding for like 1-2 quarters, mainly due to their accounting %uckups and the amount was more or less the same as $200K.

This is a recent report.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/sports/usa-cricket-cash-flow-situation-critical-icc-suspends-funding-for-third-quarter-report/articleshow/94595230.cms
1842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 28, 2022, 07:50:58 PM
Likes of Bumrah, Shaheen, Rauf etc are also choked during critical moments so it's not just Arshdeep but overall he did a satisfactory job. In T-20 format he's a good bet for India (still new in ODI so not sure).

Umran is just 4 international matches old (3 T-20 and 1 ODI) so he has a long road ahead of him. Well, Siraj won't make it into T-20 squad tbh.
Another point here is that bowlers like Bumrah and Shaheen Shah Afridi are particularly amazing in the powerplay while I never saw that sort of spark in Arshdeep.

I just feel that Umran has a lot more potential than Arshdeep and can be deadly if groomed properly.

Arshdeep's powerplay bowling numbers are more impressive when compared with his death bowling and he already proved this in T-20 WC.

So I don't know bhai what kind of spark you are looking for. Umran does have potential if he can control his line n length, which he'll learn for sure.

One is a left-arm bowler and the other clocks 150s so IMO both are very important for the future.
1843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 28, 2022, 01:27:11 AM
Just out of curiosity i want to ask you guys what do you think about covered criket stadiums? Is there a possibility that these could be the future? I understand that permanently covered stadiums are obviously not practical as pitches need a lot of sunlight for preparation. But some sort of infrastructure where the sheds can be opened and closed. This obviously will be pretty costly but would be worth the cost for sure.
Covered stadiums do solve this problem but it also presents different challenges as well.

These stadiums are costly. Australia built one back in 2000s and the cost was around $300 Million. You can imagine how much it would cost now, a conservative estimate should be around Billion dollars. Not every board can afford it, even BCCI.

Having said that if these stadiums host multiple sports throughout the year then there is a chance this idea could work because you don't want billion dollar stadium only hosting 5 matches every year (15-20 events should cover the cost)

For sunlight issue, drop in pitches looks okay.

His overall economy rate is 8.17, which is considered very good for those who ball at the death overs(T-20).

Chris Jordan (T-20 Specialist) : 8.72
Dwayne Bravo (T-20 Specialist) : 8.12
Haris Rauf :8.7
Shaheen Afridi :7.52
Jasprit Bumrah : 6.62
Trent Boult : 7.86
Anrich Nortje :7.16

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And in the Indian context let's look at these numbers when they ball at the death overs. He marginally outbowled even Bumrah.
What you're saying makes sense logically, but he was disappointing during critical moments which is why I feel that he is a bad bowler. Siraj, Umran etc are better in comparison during these critical moments.
Likes of Bumrah, Shaheen, Rauf etc are also choked during critical moments so it's not just Arshdeep but overall he did a satisfactory job. In T-20 format he's a good bet for India (still new in ODI so not sure).

Umran is just 4 international matches old (3 T-20 and 1 ODI) so he has a long road ahead of him. Well, Siraj won't make it into T-20 squad tbh.
1844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: November 27, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Viewership numbers are low for women's cricket but the numbers posted by Hamza2424 look like a doomsday scenario in women's cricket.

But IMHO overall situation is not that bad, at least in SENA. Also, things are surely improving drastically in India as well and surprisingly BCCI taking the right steps in favor of Women's cricket, WIPL is about to become reality because of this.
1845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 27, 2022, 11:57:30 AM
This bilateral tour turning out to be a disaster due to rain.

First, it ruined the T-20 series but it was useless anyway. ODI does have some relevance because of the upcoming 50 overs WC. India would've liked some more game time as they are experimenting with the squad.
Why on earth both the boards decided to schedule the bilateral series this time of year in Newzealand is questionable. First one and a half T20 series got abandoned due to rain and now the same might happen to the ODI series. A complete waste of resources and time in my opinion this tour of India has been.
Not sure if they had any idea about rain ruining all the fun. If I have to guess then this bilateral series was more like a commercial deal with NZC (Similar to Aus vs Eng) and their main broadcaster, should be covered with insurance tho (Not poor fans). Also, no board can go against the signed contract so they might have no other choice.

But yeah complete waste of resources and time. Players, especially young ones must be very disappointed.

1846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 27, 2022, 07:03:43 AM
This bilateral tour turning out to be a disaster due to rain.

First, it ruined the T-20 series but it was useless anyway. ODI does have some relevance because of the upcoming 50 overs WC. India would've liked some more game time as they are experimenting with the squad.
1847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 27, 2022, 02:16:03 AM
~snip~
Arshdeep: Good death bowler? I disagree. He's one of the worst death bowlers if you ask me. He takes wickets now and then, but his economy is way too high. On top of all this, he cannot bat well either. There are many better options in comparison.
His overall economy rate is 8.17, which is considered very good for those who ball at the death overs(T-20).

Chris Jordan (T-20 Specialist) : 8.72
Dwayne Bravo (T-20 Specialist) : 8.12
Haris Rauf :8.7
Shaheen Afridi :7.52
Jasprit Bumrah : 6.62
Trent Boult : 7.86
Anrich Nortje :7.16

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And in the Indian context let's look at these numbers when they ball at the death overs. He marginally outbowled even Bumrah.
1848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 26, 2022, 04:15:28 PM
Arshdeep is someone who was picked for the team because of his swing. But he does not have so much pace. He can bowl at an average of, 129/130 km/h. And once the ball gets older, and there is no huge swing in offer, he basically becomes useless.

Right now, if a fastballer has to have speed in his repertoire. Otherwise, he cannot have success, even though he has swing. Right now most of the balls which are used in cricket are Kookaburra. And we know that Kookaburra balls are not well known for swing.

So, I think India should really think about giving someone else the chance of proving himself, because, unless Arshdeep Singh can increase his pace to at least 140+, I don’t think he’s going to be effective in the long run.
You are implying that medium fast bowlers have no venom in their art, which is not correct at all. Sam Curran another left-arm medium fast bowler bagged a man of the tournament in a recent T-20 WC.

Regarding kookaburra ball, well if a pitch is not suitable then yeah it hardly swings but if the deck has some grass and a bit of assistance then it swings a lot, recent WC is a good example. Kookaburra stops swinging after 10-15 overs tho but don't forget there are 2 new balls for each inning in 50 overs format.
1849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 26, 2022, 12:16:58 PM
Back in 2000, Jag Mohan Dalmiya (then president of the ICC) announced that he will make the United States as a priority market for cricket expansion. More than two decades have passed, and there has been no growth at the grassroot levels. US team is entirely made up of former U-19 and first class cricketers from India, Pakistan and West Indies. And the USACA is one of the most corrupt cricket boards in the word. Over the years, more hundreds of millions of USD in funds were provided by the ICC, and most of this remains untraced and unaccounted.

On one side ICC is giving boards like usa millions of usd for cricket development with no progress while countries which have huge potential for cricket are ignored by ICC like Kenya. The focus should be on countries where there are native players who play cricket not countries like UAE, Oman thay make up team of expats.
How much money USACA get from the ICC anyway?

Last I heard they were going bankrupt and ICC had to stop their funding because of irregularity in their financial accounts. Don't know what happened after that but it wasn't a hunky dory situation for them.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 26, 2022, 05:07:55 AM
Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.
Indian cricket is happy to find an effective left-arm seamer (Arshdeep) and you are talking about replacing him  Shocked

He bowls tough overs in the T-20 (Death overs), he does his job beautifully and I guess he proved himself in the T-20. I believe for India he's an excellent find and could go long in LOIs. It was his 1st ODI so he'll learn for sure.
 
1851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 26, 2022, 02:37:33 AM
Anyway, India did cross the 300 mark but i think they are still 20-ish runs short here. Won't be easy to defend this total, considering bowling is inexperienced and new. Credit to Kiwis bowlers, they didn't allow Indian batters to free their arms (except Sundar's cameo) despite having wickets in the bank. Their fielding was amazing throughout the first inning, they at least saved 15-20 runs.
You were right, but India needed at least 30 to 40 more runs to win the match. Although they have batted quite well, but we shouldn't expect a big score from the young inexperienced team. As an experienced player, Shikhar Dhawan contributed well with his batting. The debut performance (in ODI) of Arshdeep Singh wasn't good at all. Indian bowlers had created pressure on New Zealand by taking the first 3 wickets, but the partnership of Williamson & Latham was unbeatable.
Well, the Indian team had 2 debutant bowlers (Arshdeep and Umran). 1 dibbly dobbly bowler Lord Thakur and alleged Part timer Sundar who is still learning the Art of off spin. The only established bowler was Chahal but he didn't pick any wickets in the middle overs, which is his strength.

IMO this series is testing ground for new bowlers and batters so i don't mind even if they get whitewashed in this series as far as they learn something. 
1852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: November 25, 2022, 02:47:00 PM

I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
Two players of the Pakistani team, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, have a big responsibility. Victory and defeat depend on them. As a result i think their normal batting is disrupted due to the additional pressure of the team along with his own batting. But I think SR can be increased if two or three good and reliable batsman like them add to the team. I believe any batsman will do well if he can play without pressure. If I see the SR of few Indian T20 players first Ishan Kishan his SR is 132, Rishabh Pant 147 and Suryakumar Yadav 136. I agree with you that Rizwan should try to increase his SR.

In the last T-20 WC, it was Pakistani middle order who put their foot down many times and scored valuable runs so it's a positive.

Imagine one of the openers (Babar or Rizwan) start playing with the intent and then they have Masood at 3 (he kinda reinvented himself) and Shadab, who is already an exciting LOIs player. Build a team around these batters and you got a nice combination.
1853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 25, 2022, 05:23:27 AM
@Sithara007 Yeah Sanju got out at the wrong time but he did okay with Shreyas as far as the 5th wicket partnership is concerned.

Anyway, India did cross the 300 mark but i think they are still 20-ish runs short here. Won't be easy to defend this total, considering bowling is inexperienced and new. Credit to Kiwis bowlers, they didn't allow Indian batters to free their arms (except Sundar's cameo) despite having wickets in the bank. Their fielding was amazing throughout the first inning, they at least saved 15-20 runs.
1854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: November 25, 2022, 01:15:37 AM

Players are usually divided in cricket. Especially the player who plays well in T20, board tries to keep him in T20 format. Rizwan is basically a T20 batsman. He may not have played well in a few matches but he is actually a regular batsman in Pakistan's T20 squad. If we look at his statistics then that can be easily understood.




I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
1855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 24, 2022, 10:41:12 PM
How do you say that Pakistan is the strongest team in recent few years when they are not able to win a major ICC tournament recently? Even if in their home series they lost to England by 4-3 in the seven T20 games series.

Yes, I agree that the Pakistan team possesses some greatest talent in batting and bowling but when it comes to the overall performance of the team, they lack consistency, and hence they are unable to win the series and tournaments.
I believe he might be talking about T-20 performance only. 

IMO They are an excellent T-20 side but okay in ODI and average in the Red ball cricket. @dezoel mentioned the keyword unpredictable and I tend to agree with this term that they are a highly unpredictable team and for this reason, they are exciting even when they play poor cricket.
1856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: November 24, 2022, 10:30:39 PM

I don’t understand why do Asian team’s only end up under the microscope of fixing matches, and it’ll be really disappointing if either team is convicted for match fixing. Lastly for now I would advise people to cautiously comment on this matter, as both team’s are to be assumed innocent until significant guilt can be proved don’t you’ll agree?.
It's not like, only the Asian teams indulge in such practices. South Africa comes to my mind.

I guess it's more developing world problem where the system is corrupt and some individuals might want to take advantage of it.

~snip~
This could be a made up allegation, considering Sri Lankan cricket politics.

These guys are investigating 1st test match of the series (SL vs Pak)
1857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 24, 2022, 08:43:57 AM
and it seems to me like England player’s are not at all keen to play ODI format now and if that’s the case then England selector’s should find player’s who’re yet keen to excel in this format.
They won the T-20 WC and what does their Cricket board do? Instead of celebrating and resting, they are playing dead rubber bilateral in the empty stadium.

And why? Just because ECB and CA had some random commitment to the broadcaster.
1858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: November 24, 2022, 06:14:58 AM

I believe this might be a personal vendetta type of story due to political reasons.

But you can never rule out the possibility of fixing even if it's a small percentage of chance. There is a lot of corruption in SL cricket and you add Pakistan's name with the pinch of fixing allegations. Interesting recipe to raise a few eyebrows, let's see.

These sort of allegations will have ramifications well beyond Sri Lanka and Pakistan. I still remember what happened when senior players such as Mohammad Azharuddin and Ajay Jadeja were convicted for match fixing more than two decades back. The BCCI tried to suppress the whole issue, but in the end, things spiraled out of control. A number of sponsors pulled out from deals with the BCCI and ICC and these bodies suffered significant monetary loss. And there was a large decline in TV viewership for live cricket.
If there is any truth in those allegations then it should come out in public after a fair investigation.

No matter who are the conspirators and they should be punished accordingly. Yeah, those times were pretty dark for Indian cricket, in fact, a fair amount of fixing incidents popped up at the same time in the cricketing world.
1859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: November 24, 2022, 04:50:31 AM


BTW the last SL vs Pak bilateral series is under the scope due to a match-fixing allegation made by Srilakan's parliamentarian. ICC anti corruption unit might start their investigation soon.

The last thing that we want. Corruption is such a curse to the beautiful sport of cricket. And again and again such allegations surface, especially from the South Asian region. A lot of promising players had their career cut short as a result of match fixing and I hope that will not happen this time. BTW, I am curious to know how the parliamentarian got the information about match fixing. It is strange that he got the information before the law enforcement authorities and the ICC. I just hope that he is not using this to settle old scores.
I believe this might be a personal vendetta type of story due to political reasons.

But you can never rule out the possibility of fixing even if it's a small percentage of chance. There is a lot of corruption in SL cricket and you add Pakistan's name with the pinch of fixing allegations. Interesting recipe to raise a few eyebrows, let's see.
1860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: November 23, 2022, 06:58:01 PM
Atm no one can replace Babar in the Test because there is no replacement, despite his average performance as captain.
Pakistan was a favorite against SL but they messed up with their selection by going with extra seamer instead of Spin. The Series against Australia was an embarrassment due to the flat deck but that's PCB's fault.

I don’t know if there is actually any player who can replace Babar Azam as captain of Pakistan. I know that a captain has to be somewhat different from a player in terms of thinking. I think Babar Azam has that ability. It’s the Pakistan players who are not performing consistently. That’s why Pakistan is losing or underperforming.

Pakistan should try to play to their strengths. Pakistan should always think about which part they are proficient at and not worry about exploiting the weakness of the opponent too much because that can create some confusion. If Pakistan makes another flat deck again it is going to be a big surprise.
If I am being honest then i find him a very defensive captain in the test. His batters are not performing is not his fault but fielding and bowling changes are part of the Skipper's job.

I've noticed during the field, most of the time he opts for a conservative approach despite being in a strong position.

BTW the last SL vs Pak bilateral series is under the scope due to a match-fixing allegation made by Srilakan's parliamentarian. ICC anti corruption unit might start their investigation soon.
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