Most find it easy to use since its linked to their credit cards.

In this case I`m sure you prove to the issuer of his credit card company, and get his funds as a legit purchase. but not by contacting paypal. You need to get a hold of the credit card issuer meaning the credit card co. eg: chase, mastercard.

Describe your bitcoin as $80 physical items, like a PSU or something else then a digital item.

You explain the charges and what happened and they will send you a form in the mail, but the customer support on the line will transfer the call to immediately retract after hearing your story. You act like a gullible person, they will pretty much take your side and consider it was huge event which you weren't aware of, which is true.

Then just sign off the paper work, and then send the mail back. Which is the a letter of confirmation, on what you have told is the truth.

This kinda shows us that even the probably fair sites out there can do the same as well.

You just have to observe, and catch it before they are cheating you out or not. Which is pretty annoying in my view, this goes back to "Hey, you gotta check on your own" thing.

If you cant find it, oh well! we win, house rules etc.

I think it would be better if you did with a local seller around your area w. localbitcoins.com.

Only reason I say this, from experience is because when I did my 1st initial transaction for .1btc, I actually asked if I could get a better rate if I bought another one on the spot which he did.

Now I can only imagine if you do that for your 50 btc purchase, its going to be a huge save, and you can go spend your extra fiat money on something else.

You can join like most users and do a signature campaign, from buying and selling stuff.

But keep in mind, if you are deciding to sell stuff, its advised to sell something in trend like eg: iphone 5s

Everything else is also in demand too, but its better to go with where the most demand relies on then guessing if its going to sell for bitcoin. Or you can always try to get rid of other forms of electronics like a ps4 etc.

If any newbie is to decide on a alt coin, I suggest who actually needs or uses them.

eg: Just-dice - huge dice site that only uses alt clam coins, that would be your only reason to jump on alt coin.

Unless its a similar scenario, I wouldnt jump on any alt coin unless its being actually used in demand at a high volume.

why dont you just meet up a local buyer on localbitcoins.com if this is a cash deal?

I mean of course the rates will be a bit much, but at least you know you`ll have cash on hand.

Hmm, this is a bit disturbing.. cause I know the website does have a few bugs at times like the dice roll lagging if there was abuse.

But I never heard something like a bug that vanish the balance. I really wish you had a screen cap of your previous balance or something to work off of.

Not that I dont believe you, its just most situations they would fix it on the spot.

Edit: Seems like the support actually did reach out to you, so just wait for them to re-credit your balance. Give it another 2 days at most?

Sorry for the loss on the bitcoin. That really sucks, but having threats to be in touch with the russian mobs is that a empty threat agaisnt them?

Because by now, I would of tooken the 10 btc and call it a day. Yeah, the 170 btc to 10 btc is a huge difference, but I would of just started over.

And then after getting the 10 btc, come to the conclusion its better to start over with something then nothing at all?

so is the survey still available for more people or no?

op, you need to edit your thread regarding on whats going on, so we know. Also to those who participated in this, I think the best thing you can do is wait, but next time I think the op should escrow the funds if he/she is asking to do something.

Well the reality is its a lot harder, since the faucet has been around for at least 2 years.

So those who were the 1st to know about it, and those who acted on the referral system way ahead now have a huge user base. Dont get me wrong, the referral system is still a wonderful thing, you just have to get creative.

As for your comments on spamming other threads, I suggest not to do that. You`ll easily get a ban from a forum moderator and no longer use the account.

You consider give aways in the gambling section like most people do with their stuff, but just make sure you respond to peoples comments or most new comers who do see it will question the give away is legit or not.

$50 a month from a faucet is doable, if you either know how gamble on a multiplier like on freebitco.ins site.

Or you do the better route of having referrals and teach them the same concept on the multiplier so everyone is doing this, but pay them accordingly so they stay as well.

It needs work, but I`m sure you can make it up in doing signatures if it fails or something.

Id be open to vouch for you as well, if you are doing this to test your amounts.

Of course, the amount can be any but just needs to stay positive for at least a week. Although, to be honest with you theres quite a few other sellers who are doing the same, so not sure how you`ll compete unless you do better price points.

Its better to do cloud mining if there was a legit service that stood around for more then 1 year.

But most just crumble, based on what I seen so far. The ones who offer it, I suggest looking into if they are a asic producer so they can back up by creating more miners if they needed to, so like bitmain is a perfect example to go with.

Anyone outside of being an actual asic producer you are just risking the performance that they dont have, which ends up being a ponzi.

The # of bitcoins relay back to the price.

So obviously the lower the price, the more quantity you need to get a retirement lol. You may need like 10,000 or more if the rates are super lower.

Right now, if you do the preev current rates for dollars - 10,000 = $265k which is reasonable to get a $50k house in las vegas or somewhere else on in the mid west and retire.

The price crash can start in the low $200ish? so like $180 then a sudden price drop to $100 is when I`ll start to see it happen.

Its similar when the btc price was up $1,000 - and a couple months later the movement went all the way down to $600ish.

It seems like a security issue with no 2fa setup?

or the common mistake of leaving all bitcoins on a online wallet rather then using a actual desktop based.

Also, if this is the form of trolling us and begging, its not that creative. I`m not saying you are, but some one already pointed it out of boy crys wolf.

Is there a buy it now price you have in mind thats not 2btc.?

or is the price set and no price is flexible etc. I`d bid, but not starting 2 btc.. just saying.

question is if we bid, and you become our referral and we pay you btc.

then you bail then what? we have a dead referral plus you pocketed the auction bid.

most of those faucets are bad and only few are still standing that payout.

I saw the only good standing one thats worth the time would be freebitco.in since they always seem to payout on time.

They been around prob the longest out of all those mentioned on the list.

I see more exchanges start up for good 5 months then suddenly vanish with btc or situations that usually just crumble.

Or supposedly like a hack, like the other exchange had their cold wallet stolen of thousands of bitcoin.

Prices are not moving like back in 2012 if thats your reference because, all the bad apples finally been washed out.