Current population of the US is 320 million. If 50% of the people get this in some way and the death count is 2% of all cases, then we're looking at about 3.2 million dead people. Let's see what it looks like in a year or so.
|
|
|
BITCOIN FIXES THAT.
Only if you trade the crap fiat for bitcoin. Problem is it requires someone who will trade you bitcoins for crap fiat. Remember you can't just wave your hand and make more bitcoins by magical thinking.....
|
|
|
Must be what the rally was about yesterday. Some peeps got wind of the cut early.
Having political "pull" helps when administrations are corrupt.
|
|
|
*FED CUTS BENCHMARK RATE 50 BPS, SAYS VIRUS POSES EVOLVING RISKS
wow!
It is quite obvious now that every central bank and financial regulator will use this virus to justify their failed policies on the eve of the global financial collapse. Yep. Time to start printing free money. For the "rich". Ignore, trade it in for bitcoins, will be like reichmarks soon enough.
|
|
|
If the real shit happens you'll need a property of land to be able to produce food. Stocking food for 1 month lasts only for 1 month. What if things get longer? Well in that case you would depend on your governments. I hope everything will be fine and we won't need that.
As always, it's a matter of balancing risks. Most disasters last a week or so, most power outages last a day or so. Within 2 weeks things are usually at a stable point, so a month's worth of resources should allow you to ride out the problems in a sense of style. Now if disruptions are for a year or so then yeah you need to start banding together with your neighbors/state/country and deal with things and having a month's worth of resources gives you the time to set that shit up. Having enough land to produce food, having all the tools to produce food, the fertilizer on hand to produce it long term, seeds, plants that make seeds, and so forth can get very expensive to maintain. That's money that you can't use to buy bitcoin, invest in the future, and so forth. If the apocalypse doesn't happen you will be further behind other people, and if it does you may be ahead of other people but you will still be living in a serious crap-sack universe. Preventing that crap-sack universe by having a reasonable government, getting involved with your community, and contributing to a better tomorrow despite the fact that some (many, most) people are fuck-heads could be a better investment over becoming the king of MREs. So, there you go. You place your bets and take your chances with life. In business many people have placed all their bets on stuff coming from cheap china. This probably paid off well when times were good, but when bad things happen the question is did they save enough money to cover a service disruption? If so they have a crappy year. If not they go out of business. Jury is still out if China is dead for a week (on hand supplies used), a month (reserves), a year (suppliers) or a decade (you're fucked if you depended on them). We shall see.
|
|
|
They're all so freaking old. I think Trump is the young one. Of course. Baby Boomers will *never* give up power.
|
|
|
He should probably call his insurance agent as a 21 year old will cause a lot of damage. But hey, why not?
|
|
|
Been googling "government cheese" but can't find any. I found government detergent and soap and a shitload of other things, mainly from the era of the cold war, but no cheese. Disappointed.
I was poor enough to get government cheese in the 80s. Apparently they paid farmers to farm cheese but had too much of it so they gave it out to the poor. https://www.history.com/news/government-cheese-dairy-farmers-reaganSame here. Lived in an economically... complex.... neighborhood in the early 80's. It was like a 5 or 10 pound block of delicious. Can't remember anything as good since. Ah childhood memories.
|
|
|
yeah
I ain't waiting around for no goddamned government cheese
I will say from personal experience that the government cheese is fucking delicious.
|
|
|
Why are people stocking up on food anyway? this is not that kind of event. A solar storm or EMP that knocks out all electronics would be that kind of event.
It's not like the government would leave you to starve to death if you are quarantined, either the military would organize handing out of food or they would organize some kind of mobile groceries van or something like that. It would make sense to have food for a couple of days before everything gets organized, but that's all.
I mean if we can get food and water to people and areas that are totally snowed in in the winter, I think we can handle this.
You trust the government? This government? Hm.
|
|
|
The Wow was in reference to 6EQUJ5. Still, rendezvous is one hell of a track.
|
|
|
Just texted with a friend, the groceries in Seattle got wiped out yesterday. Silly normals, why pay for food when you can just split the skulls of your neighbors and feast on the tasty goo inside?
See, buy some extra groceries, 2-3 weeks is all you need. Oh and measure your neighbors and rank for caloric content. Easy peasy
|
|
|
Yes holy water being drained in churches too
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
I'm interested in seeing what the death rate per capita is in the various US states. Will Red states suffer more due to their ignorance and love of "real facts"? Will Blue states suffer more due to their Godless ways and lack of prayer? Reality exists, time to place your bets.
|
|
|
... somehow isolate from the grid...
OK, I'm going to just give up and be snarky, it is an AMAZING new technology BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY ROBOTS NOW!!! living in the future man That's funny... But what does the Tesla exactly do differently so that it is LEGAL to run an on-grid solar installation during a blackout while other systems do require to be automatically shut down on blackout? It's not that those could not have a relay to cut from the grid until the power comes back. Probably it is fed by a breaker from the main box, and powers a second breaker panel downstream. In that sense it's just a big UPS, you hook your critical loads to the breakers attached to the unit, and when power goes out it continues to feed them. Just like a big UPS. For that no anti-islanding is needed. Sunny boy grid tie inverters are a different thing because they *can* backfeed the grid. Thus they need circuitry inside themselves to note when the grid is down and shut themselves off (usually because they suddenly see the 120 volts dropping like a rock as your little panels try to power the neighborhood. Not going to happen :-)
|
|
|
the lithiums have made impressive strides in energy density, outpacing your Trojans by a fair bit
that said, and I am quite aware of the dangers inherent in H2SO4, if I had one of those power walls it would be installed in an airtight bunker some distance from the dwelling...
when lithium decides to do the bad, it is really bad
True. For a house system weight and energy density aren't as big a problem as in a car (where you have to like move it). So L16 or T105 batteries can get you a lot of power for a reasonable price without the major fire problem of lithiums. As for hydrogen I've never seen issues with lead, however I guy I knew did blow the bed off his battery powered truck with flooded NiCD batteries. Those last forever but really can gas hydrogen on charge. Oh well. 100ah AGM batteries are quite nice as well but a bit more pricey per AH. Any way you go, you need to figure out how much power you need per day, then build your solar panels to put that much power back in 1/2 day (factoring in cloudy days) with a battery capacity of at least 3-4 times your load for rainy days and the like. Thus if you want to run the fridge (200 watts*24=4.8kw) some lights (about 1kw a day) and a toaster (1,500 watts for an hour a day) you're at 7kw. Thus a 28kw battery pack and 14kw of solar will do it. Assuming 5 hours of sun per day (and you factored in the 2x oversize for solar) and you're talking a ~2kw array and if the batteries are 48v then a 500ah battery pack or 16 T105's. Takes more power than you think. Thanks for the info. But you have a unit problem. Watts != Watt-Hours I hate screwing that up, but I think the math holds. watt hours is what everything should be measured in with watts alone just used for peak demand calculations.
|
|
|
You are correct, it’s undersize. But in economic terms, the grid is a much cheaper and bigger battery for normal everyday household consumption given current feed in tariffs.
The battery is more about energy security. Keep in mind most solar will be cut off when the grid goes down. People won’t be able to generate at all because the utility shuts down their solar remotely to stop them exporting. The Tesla has a gateway to allow you to generate behind the battery.
Is that legal somehow? How does it work? Does it inject to a completely different line in your house or is able to somehow isolate from the grid so that no electricity is injected back? Have you considered installing one of those cheap small aircon split unit (one with 1kw max) in at least one room, ie the bedroom, so in case of a blackout you have some air conditioning at least? Obviously your 7kw central unit is a no-go without the grid and that is probably the only thing missing in your nice setup. Actually a small window AC unit (5000 BTU) can be installed with only a few hundred watts. That can keep a room cool and since it's only for a few hours a day it's not as bad as the damn fridge.
|
|
|
You are correct, it’s undersize. But in economic terms, the grid is a much cheaper and bigger battery for normal everyday household consumption given current feed in tariffs.
The battery is more about energy security. Keep in mind most solar will be cut off when the grid goes down. People won’t be able to generate at all because the utility shuts down their solar remotely to stop them exporting. The Tesla has a gateway to allow you to generate behind the battery.
Ok, so you're grid-tied with the ability to run your own power island if things go down off the batteries. My system is tied into a Sunny Boy 1800 for the grid which can be manually switched into a MPPT converter that can feed the battery bank in the event things go odd. Manual, but works. The batteries are in my work shed, which has about 320 watts of solar directly connected to it to keep the shed running and the batteries peaked. I have thought about getting a Sunny Island or a Trace SW4024 so I can automatically switch between grid and solar, but another option would be to just break down and put the Matrix in the house and wire it up to a subpanel that runs the fridge and other stuff. I'll think about that, but a 700 watt inverter is enough to run the critical stuff including the microwave. Solar panels *are* cheap these days, I bought mine at about $2 a watt used for the single crystal ones. Modern polycrystaline are a bit less efficient (take up more space and are *heavier*) but that's not too big of a deal. Will think about it.
|
|
|
This Covid-19 shit is starting to become a pandemic.
Absolutely surreal watching a game of Plague Inc. play out in real-time.
I'm starting to get the fear. Supposed to be traveling to Amsterdam, and Ireland in April.
For me it's like seeing "On the Beach" play out in real time. Yep, Oregon just went dark, party on!
|
|
|
|