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1121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2020, 03:39:51 PM
Holy crap, bitcoin is at 9625 ish. This is nice.
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2020, 03:35:58 PM
Herd immunity is already there.

Numbers are going down.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Virus is running out of warm bodies to infect.

True, warm bodies have been kept distanced, away from each other, etc and the numbers are going down. More in countries that did this well, less in countries that did not do this well. "Herd" immunity works when the herd is being careful.

Now we get to see what happens when you re-add bodies to the pool.

I have a feeling I know which way this is going to go, when you tamp down a fire to coals and then pour gasoline on the coals you get a predictable response. But hey, maybe "this time it will be different"....

Let's check back in 2 months. Place your bets folks, just remember that chip you're betting with is your life.
1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2020, 01:49:32 PM
That was the machine I cut my teeth on and yeah that 16k expansion pack was a f**king mare. The amount of times you would spend tediously typing in BASIC only for it to glitch and lose everything.
Who remembers trying to back up to cassette tape and trying different volume levels on the mic before it would work (if ever).
Ah those were the days.

The Timex Sinclair was an amazing computer. I think it had 4 chips and used a CPU data line to directly drive the screen or something like that. Also made an excellent shim to hold a door open.

I should dig mine out and see if I can boot CP/M on it. Why not....

1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 14, 2020, 01:47:34 PM
... so back-of-envelope for the Flu-Bros ... only 13x more people needed to catch it (and 13x more people die supposedly) until "herd immunity" ... France current death toll ~30k x13 ~~ 390k total .. for example, without better therapies (which exist but are currently being denied by establishment Vaxx-bros), other interventions, etc.

1) How do you die "supposedly"? Are they sinking the bodies in the ocean with cement shoes?
2) Hm. 84k people dead in the US. Multiply by 13x and you get 1.1 million dead. We're well on the way to that number....

1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2020, 06:57:30 PM
Dollar go brrrrr...

Tether go trrrrr...

Vegeta go grrrrrrrrrr...
Bitcoin go purrrrr......
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2020, 11:57:54 AM
Looks like it's hanging on AT 9000!!!!!

(again)
1127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 12, 2020, 01:45:07 PM
there is a hidden message in the last block with 12.5 bitcoin block reward

Quote
NYTimes 09/Apr/2020 With $2.3T Injection, Fed's Plan Far Exceeds 2008

http://srv1.yogh.io/#block:height:629999
Hah, that is funny. Better than the usual pr0n. :-)

1128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 12, 2020, 01:22:19 AM
I really can't believe it is still like this.   It really does not inspire confidence.  It is horrible.

1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2020, 12:42:27 PM
What's that havling everyone is talking about?
You need to send half of your bitcoins to my address.

I think ...

:-)
1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2020, 12:33:55 PM

What, 9000? There's no way that can be right!!!

(again)
1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2020, 12:10:03 PM
I know: Took work off today so I could watch it happen. Whee!
1132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 09:42:35 PM
The gas chambers this time around will be a softer gentler approach...

Vaccines utilizing radical new technology that's never been tested will do the trick in a much easier way. They're already implementing plenty of measures to ensure people get the vaccine without forcing them. But they will be given little to no choice.

A softer, gentler gas chamber?

Hm.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 05:00:47 PM
Yep, bitcoin is on a 20% sale right now. Get it while you can.
1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 03:26:50 AM
I live in a nation that can conceptualize and produce this:



Nothing to really fear in the long term.
1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 03:22:05 AM
You can keep your liberties.  

Much as I would like to thank you for your magnanimous offer, I'm afraid that my fellow 'merkins -- many of them at least -- would rather cower under a benevolent boot than take responsibility for their own well-being. And accordingly are making an irresistible force determined to throw away their liberties - with mine thrown right out in the process.

As for myself, I'm perfectly capable of limiting my exposure to disease vectors on my own volition.
We'll see. At the moment our loving leader is beginning to realize the limits of his control of reality....

More to the point: Requiring the wearing of masks is like requiring the wearing of pants. Sorry, otherwise you smear your shit everywhere you sit, thus society requires pants. You exhale virus particles and infect others so society requires masks.

1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 01:38:07 AM
I'd think it would take more energy to escape the sun's gravity (i.e. "the solar system") than fall into the sun, unless you're in a high orbit like a comet.
Physics Man's speculations leave out lots of specifics.  Do you first have to launch a rocket from the earth?  That adds a bunch more energy required.
And what's with the Delta V business?  That's just acceleration, which is an instantaneous measure and doesn't tell you how much "propellant" you're going to need for the stated job of going to or from the sun.

Well, in order to fall into the sun you have to stop orbiting it. De-orbit is tougher than you think because you're starting off with a lot of velocity from the Earth. Now you can lose energy by doing flybys of the inner planets, but since they are smaller than Jupiter you lose less energy than you can gain by a Jupiter/Saturn flyby. So it is easier to go out of the solar system from Earth than into the sun.

Messenger's wikipedia page (mercury orbiter) probably has a good write up on the process.
1137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2020, 12:54:27 AM
I love how every fucking coin goes down in unison. Guess someone had a hankering for cash to buy a planet or something.
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
I (if I controlled the government) would have done the same thing the government does during a bad flu season.

If I also controlled the government I would likely use the crisis as an opportunity to turn the health care system into a completely decentralized blockchain aided free market system.

If it was truly a bad pandemic people would be able to buy respirators (or 3D print their own), have a negative pressure room in their home/garage/basement, and AirBnB the hospital space. Uber Doctors and Nurses that come and check on patients and give monitoring advice to AirBnBs.

Elwar, if you were in control with the government this would never have been an issue. Heck if a fucking chicken had been in control this would probably have been a minor issue. The thing that really ticks me off is that this happened THREE times in the past.

  • In 2002 we had the SARs epidemic. World governments worked together to contain and mitigate it, and the result was a minor issue with no recurrence.
  • In 2011 we had the H5N1 nightmare. World governments tried to suppress, then because of me they worked together to identify and create vaccines for it. No problem.
  • In 2012 we had the MERS epidemic. World governments worked together to contain and mitigate it, and the result was a minor issue with no recurrence.

Now in 2020 we have COVID/SARS. Same thing but this time world governments are all fighting with each other over pointless shit, did not work together, and the US government in particular not only did nothing but instead spread lies that allowed it to not be contained, to arrive on cruise ships released by fucking political pull, and spread like wildfire in the country.

As icing on the cake this moron leader disbanded the teams who knew how to work on this in 2018, ignored the runbooks, and put the president's moron son in charge of responses that were not only laughable but totally counterproductive.

Sorry. Those trillions of dollars down the drain is the complete and final responsibility of one Donald Trump and his less than worthless Rethuglican cronies. Their lies, inaction, and malicious response has directly cost this country trillions of dollars and as of this afternoon 78,397 dead people.

Yes, I do believe Elwar that you would have done a great job. Really, I do. But this is what the people of the US wanted, and this is what they get. They can deal with it.
1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2020, 03:45:06 PM
Perfect example: Gulping hydroxychloroquine or colloidal silver in desperation because a moron says so. Smart move is to wait for the trial data to come out and make your decision then.


You realize that story was fake? or do you watch too much mainstream media?
How so?
1140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
Since when has this thread become Covid-19 related? Some psychos in Politics & Society will flood over and turn it into a warzone.

P.S: Absolutely no.
WO is like this. We have all sorts of whack-a-doodle discussions here, the key is we know when to quit and when to stop beating a dead horse (for awhile).

As for the vaccine, there will be one, and if you're smart you will try not to get into a place where you need it immediately, but only after it has been properly tested and reviewed. Otherwise you run into the situation of "Trump cures" which wind up just killing you because it's a crowd stampede.

Perfect example: Gulping hydroxychloroquine or colloidal silver in desperation because a moron says so. Smart move is to wait for the trial data to come out and make your decision then.

*That* is another reason to have reserves. In a true survival situation you are either the first person out or the last person out. Being in the big crowded middle is the worst place to be, so hunker down in your place of reserves until you can see the true landscape and the best plan of action.

Hairy is pretty much dead on in his post, which is why I merited it: You can believe that this virus is not really easy to transmit, that it's not any more deadly than the flu, that all the death numbers are inflated to "make Trump look bad", that your employer really will have your best interest at heart thus the need to protect them against lawsuits, that hydroxychloroquine and zinc will save you, that this is all an evil conspiracy to get your guns/freedom/whatever. You can believe any reality you want to.

But only one reality exists. And in that one when you get sick and crippled you're sick and crippled no matter how many rallies you protested at with your barbie gun*. In that one when you get sick or die your employer just replaces you like the widget you are. In that one things happen based on simple probabilities and well established vectors of transmission, not based on how well you suck up to someone in power. And in that one you face the benefits or consequences of listening to informed or uninformed sources.

Step right up and place your bets! Because this is reality, and this one can't be fooled or paid for on credit or promises.

* Barbie guns: I get so annoyed seeing these freedom fighters at rallies with stupid-assed guns that have endless scary attachments on them. It's like owning a barbie doll and endlessly outfitting her with fashion accessories. Fine if that's your fetish but if you're serious bring a 12 gauge pump action shotgun and be done with it....

** Note: I take extreme offense at people who ask others to sacrifice their lives for themselves, and get really annoyed when asked to sacrifice my life so someone else can profit.

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