I just want to tell ya dude ,

Nitrogenetics ------- 


You are a fucking legend

I have learned so much from your posts and taking things a step further and doing a lot of my own studying , testing and research you will forever be in the hall of fame to me and if I could kiss you over the web I would.


Thanks for all the work and upkeep to the thread. 


I wish someone had as comprehensive and one tenth as well written thread about gitian cross compiling as your thread is for win.x.


There are so many people who have learned from your post I don't think you have any idea.


I can tell by when I type bitcoin in google and one of the first things it tries to complete is 'building headless'   ------------


 

this is a level db issue, did you get it solved ?

@deadsea + all

Honestly the development of either GR's toolchain method or the btc's Gitian cross compiling method is not really going to be anything that anyone other than a developer would notice and many developers would probably not use.   I have limited time to devote to this work as my time is stretched on many projects (none of which I am asking for or getting financial compensation ---- my aim is to learn and help 'build' better things for the future). 
That being said I would not be working on it if I did not think it important for the long term.  Please read on.

First I suggest you read more about why the bitcoin team uses gitian and the project here https://gitian.org/ 

Cryptocurrency is in essence (and I borrow this ideology from a paper written by Nick Szabo see it here https://twitter.com/cinnamon_carter/status/547166786006040578 ) trusting the integrity of code to allow you to interact with others who are strangers and/or people you may not be able to trust over the web. Still if you read this paper it makes a lot of sense how Nick points out that the most serious threats to systems is from 'insiders'.

Thus.... iX will be a much better system (from a trust standpoint) if two, three or more developers compile wallets from source code and get the exact same output that can be verified by checksum. (for those who don't understand what checksum verification is see here please read this brief article about what it is checksums explained)  Very few users of cryptocurrency make wallets from source for personal use. They 'trust' the wallet released by the developer or development team. 

If iX or any coin/system is ever going to challenge bitcoin or stand next to it I believe adding this layer of safety will help make that possible even though most users of cryptocurrency are 100% unfamiliar with these concepts. 

Consider my line of thought here.......

I would never release a wallet with a payload or malicious code included but anyone who has followed the alt coin scene knows it has happend a few times before although never with iX or a major coin.  Suppose others trust me, Ground Rod and Ahmed to be 100% honest and never release dishonest code. Suppose we take great care in how we build our wallets (I know I do) using several different computers, virtual machines, computers offline that have never been connected to the web and always use strong passwords and different passwords for everything we log into. Taking these precautions reduces but does not eliminate the possibility of someone compromising our own individual security.  No matter how careful or good you are you can still make a mistake or be hacked.  Even using virus total to screen wallets (Which i recommend everyone use  google it and upload the wallet to the site everytime you upgrade any wallet)  is not full protection since it can only protect users from 'known' threats. 

The long term goal is to provide and establish a release process that will offer end users more 'trust'.
Don't forget trust is the only reason any coin including bitcoin has any 'value'. 
An ideal system would be one that both developers and anyone from the community can compile the source code and get a perfectly matched output that is signed by a public pgp key.

Not as ideal but still very strong would be a system where developers compile releases that can be verified as identical and signed with our pgp keys.

So while everyone else is worried about what the price of iX or btc is today or tomorrow there are a few of us who are thinking ahead and actually designing, building and testing methods that will really improve the system. 

Most people don't consider compromised security until something happens and damage or loss occurs.  Then it is too late.

I am working toward the design of systems that will ensure people like myself who are annonymous programers on the internet will be able to work together to provide open source software for everyone in the world to use and have it be safer and more 'trustworthy' than if it came from microsoft, apple, or anyone else.    Anyone who wants to contribute is welcome to review the development tree of the source code of iX on github or post links to your own work on github here in the forum.  There are many challenges.  For example the gitian system used by the bitcoin developers by design compiles things very slowly and sometimes just fails.  Getting it to work correctly or even installed is not an easy undertaking.  I am still studying exactly how it works so eventually I can use it with any coin or even other software. 

I will finish by saying this. 

If you like cryptocurrency/bitcoin/iX and think it is cool but don't understand how it works please take my advice and read up on how the code actually works  (start with the bitcoin wiki) a little.  You will be amazed at how brilliant the system is and has evolved over the last several years.  I consider the source code we are working with now to be just as much a work of art as the treasures painted by the great masters in the museums of the world and the accomplishments of the best theoretical physicists.  It has the potential to permanently change many things in the world and hopefully for the better. 

   

thanks much for your input, i have been doing things separate for the blake system however have recently been experimenting with gitian and other methods of cross compiling .... i still get the best results doing things the same way you are ....

I would be curious to see if dga has made progress.... i happened to read a blogpost he wrote sometime ago about monero mining while not related to this it certainly shows he has the skills .....  I wish i had the time and hardware to work on optimizations of his work ....

Atomic is the best exchange , period.

Unless the bitcoin core team forks the code differently from the code they have uploaded to github so far and how they have discussed it it should not  effect merge mining. Still pulling this off will be a major event if it comes off without any hitches.  Personally I am not in favor of the fork and while I am not a minority opinion what I think means nothing.  Hopefully the major pools and nodes upgrade prior to the cutoff block so there are no issues.

To answer the earlier inquiries on changes/updates pushed by Ground Rod to the development tree on github he made a few changes that should resolve the issues some people had upgrading wallets without dumping and importing keys. I never had an issue but some had problems getting the blockchain.   

Unrelated to this GR has started making a more advanced build method that would allow for cross compiling.  This is still a work in progress and I have also spent some time on it.  The desired result is that multiple developers will eventually be able to compile wallets to distribute for linux, win.x and osx and we can sign the with a pgp key to confirm we did the build. The builds should match identical if we get it all worked out.  The bitcoin team uses a system called gitian for this to make sure no rogue developer has a gun put to his head or is hacked and releases a wallet that could do harm. I have actually spent some time looking at using gitian on iX. Still a work in progress.  The proposed system by Gr looks promising.

question to the developer when you have time,

are you building /compiling with

1) gitian
2) individually on each operating system
3) with a custom toolchain (unlikely since i don't see this in your source

this was resolved , someone at random contacted me on twitter asking for help with this , m

i cloned the main mue branch & built it first lick

used qt 4.8.5 on my fork the wallet was put up


someone mentioned my build was not static


funny when i tested it on win vm's it worked w/o dll 's

apology to nitrogenetics for this post here off topic of building bitcoin but honestly if you follow his instructions to the letter they work !!

nice to see development , when i have a chance i will fork your 9.x wallet & check it all out :-)

i monitor the network & pools on & off did not see a major outage ...,
do you know what time utc this was ? may be helpful info if avail ... thx

Thanks to the work of Graham a block crawler is now available for Simple Inflation Coin

See his post on english thread here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240894.msg10383052#msg10383052

I will test it when i get home also if anyone has issues with the gpu miner on 7970 i was getting near 6 mhs
using the sgminer on one gpu (all i own)

set batch file as here

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
sgminer.exe -k sifcoin -o http://127.0.0.1:8373 -u x -p y -I 20 -g 1 -w 256 --gpu-engine 1175 --gpu-memclock 700 -s 60 -E 110


Also my node had 20+ connections when i checked it a few times earlier this week.
Sorry I don't know Russian guys. Love you just the same.

Excellent ! Thanks Guess I should notify the Russian thread.

yea , i got it started but it sadly is not reading the blockchain if i try to use abe

maybe if someone can use Graham's work  ... here
https://github.com/gjhiggins/sifcoin-hash
and here
https://github.com/gjhiggins/altcoin-abe


and gitpull on abe here

https://github.com/bitcoin-abe/bitcoin-abe/pull/155

we could get some fresh ideas

if i get more spare time i can have another go at it

fyi ground rod pushed multiple updates he coded to github which i will try to make time to test out by the weekend

under limit, hmmm dust,  sounds like people are mining to your inputs.......   

psst , check git hub, see issue...

I agree , i have been a bit busy but did look over the commits and some good progress is being made, I am always impressed 1000x by code that works vs. people who say 'why can't it do this or that' ..... until you have actually tried to build something yourself,  make changes or even get the client to compile  you don't get a true appreciation for how specialized some of the talent level is that has gone into these projects over the years and is going on right now.

GR and Ahmed have done some very solid work. 

thanks to mmpool for the test info also , that probably took him hours and hours of work that is like a thankless job......so please consider these things

the iX community is stronger now in many ways than ever and I hope to see that trend to continue in 2015 and beyond, happy to be a part of things here.

i am making a new build system to help test and contribute but ran into a little snag, hopefully after i get some sleep and back to my apartment (staying with a friend last few days) i can complete my new virtual linux 'machine' designed just for iX building and testing and catch up to the changes Ground Rod put on his fork of github. Also what is not posted in the forums here is all the communication in private and (in public) on github so everyone understands there are hundreds of hours of many peoples work involved.  If you have anything to contribute join us on github.  If not relax and in time I see some good progress ahead.       

I find it amazing how quickly we forget in the United States people are innocent until proven guilty of any charge beyond a reasonable doubt.  Hundreds of years ago that system along with others was set up to prevent injustice by the wise men and women who suffered through those difficult times.  They left us some powerful laws to protect our liberty but few even know or care any longer......

Still that did not prevent the government from 'taking' assets and selling them off before any conviction or chance of appeal of the man facing these serious charges. What impunity the boot of the government steps into peoples lives.
Imagine he stands trial and is not guilty on every charge.  Will he get his time, health, nerves, assets and good name back with the same bravado in which they were stripped away from him ?  It would be impossible.

I never met him but to those calling for his lynching I ask have you ever met him ?

Do you have personal knowledge or evidence that justifies the crimes he is charged with and his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt ? Enough to jail him for life !!!
   
Who are the victims of these serious crimes I hear about ?

Anyone who is familiar with federal government prosecution tactics knows they have over 97% of the people plead guilty who are charged.

That means the 'authorities' in only about 3% of cases have to actally present evidence to a jury that proves anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

 
Why is that.. ... they strip people of assets, jail them, demoralize  them, put pressure on the families and do everything else in their power to strip them of the rights they have under the Constitution  of the United States ..........They file charges that are designed only to strike fear into the mind of anyone charged with a crime......

Pleading guilty gets a 5 year prison term, pleading innocent the person can face 100 years usually of trumped up charges.....

The criminal justice system in America is a large machine , a big bad business with an almost unlimited checkbook to expand operations.  It is run for profit for corporations and government agencies each with their own agendas.


I have no doubt there are few honourable men and women working for the prison/industrial/complex and partners the unlimited police departments in America trying to to what they believe is just and earn an honest living.

For the majority I guess they go along since it is a job for them and they care not for what is right or wrong.

There are probably some who actully delight in the ruin of other human lives.

Please , remember I am not taking  one side or another here in the trial of this man.

Unlike others I do not presume he did  something wrong since .....ohhhhhhh the police would  never arrest an innocent man........

ohhhhhh I saw it on tv,     ohhhhhhh i read all about it.
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A few days ago another well known man was handed a 5 year prison term for providing a link  to something on the internet.

I would urge the almost all 'male' crowd who frequent the forum to consider your own hide if you cannot find a compassionate thought for someone you never met.

Until the trends that are running out of control right now in the name of LAW AND ORDER can be reversed to the fair and great justice system they mutated out of none of us are safe and could be taken away at any time.

Just try to remember that the next time you have the urge to follow the mob psychology and voice demands to 'lock them up and throw away the key' ......   

It is not by mistake schools in America today are run like  prisons.  The young  are being conditioned.
They may haul all our asses off someday if current trends continue.   

Now i think without doubt we can say .... yes ..... for all those driven by greed.