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3141  Economy / Economics / Re: ECB President: There is clearly a demand out there that we have to respond to on: January 03, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
Seriously if we could just have the bankers who just happen to create money out of thin air, our current system is not as bad as it looks, in anytime of the history usually the system is not the bad part, its the people who use it.

Right now, there are derivatives, leverages, margins, commodities sold plus than combined and sold again etc etc many many bad things. Plus banks have less money in their vaults, literally own less money than they have for savings accounts and loans combined, so if one day everyone withdrew their money there wouldn't be enough money in banks to pay them up, that is literally a ponzi scheme that became too big to fail since it would actually destroy many lives. This is not systems fault, this is the fault of greedy people who keep wanting more and more money.
3142  Economy / Gambling / Re: [Tower.bet] - Unique Crypto Gambling Site with Time Limited Events - $600 Event on: January 02, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
I requested one from the website itself, honestly what triggered me to do that was the fact that you guys actually managed to build so many features that the early starting casinos miss and then add after they are already a casino that is known and gambled a lot.

Mainly because casinos don't know if they will be liked or not so they don't spend too much time on development stage and just release their website unfinished and then if they get some attention they start to develop bigger. You guys developed many things before anything started and just in beta stage, that is a good start.

All the altcoins, all the promotions, all exchanges, moderators and support, these are all amazing for a website that is barely starting out and only on the beta stage right now, I feel like you guys will be great in the future, plus the hi/lo multiplayer thing looks very refreshing and brand new, never seen something like that before.
3143  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to send money anonymously to anyone's bank account in Indonesia on: January 02, 2020, 08:07:25 AM
I have done this once and I followed one "non-recommended" way of trick to get money into someone's account for selling bitcoins from my regular peer-peer services. It became possible for me as my service provider is not checking names on my given bank account and bank details are editable always which requires no approval (because I guess that changing bank accounts will not impact the service provider in any means).

For doing so, you must be familiar with how your service is working otherwise you may end up getting your account locked up with funds. I am not recommending this method; if you want to try, please do at your responsibility.

I believe this would be somewhat related to mention here: Even for card transactions, name checks are NOT being done by visa/master cards as many times I have used my short names (whereas my bank accounts are with my full name) and all the times, my payments were successful. (I remember sometimes few processors are not bothering about credit/debit cards as we can choose either one regardless of our card type).

3144  Economy / Speculation / Re: DON'T MISS! Proof Bitcoin/Crypto Nowhere Near Bottom! on: January 01, 2020, 04:51:28 PM
Bottom could be around these prices, there is no way bitcoin stays the same so I am sure there is still a "possibility" of bitcoin going lower that is for sure, I wouldn't disagree with that idea but what if the price suddenly increases like hell? That means the bottom at $7k and then a new price of $15k or whatever bitcoin does crazy would mean $7k was the bottom, sure there are always chances of going down to $5k but we can't just let that above $10k possibility go away neither.

So, I think bottom is where we decide next the bottom is, if we decide to go down then that is the new bottom, if we decide to go up then this is the bottom and that is why what happens in the future decides the today's prices so much as well. I personally think this is the bottom, we are not going anywhere under $6.9k at all.
3145  Economy / Speculation / Re: WO Replies vs Bitcoin Tracking - Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4 - 2019 on: January 01, 2020, 04:00:28 PM
It looks like there was basically no relations at all? I mean from looking at how much replies there have been in the 2019 it was around the same number of posts and replies whereas bitcoin moved so much, maybe there is a small correlation on how people talk when the price is low and not talk when they are making money but in the end it is a very very small correlation and it is purely speculative as well.

When I look at the graphs all I see is people don't really talk that little or too much depending on the price so much, they just have an average of reply counts and they are somewhere in the vicinity of that number every single quarter no matter what the price is, the difference is bitcoin is mostly stagnant this year as well even tho it is doubled, it just skyrocketed once and mostly stayed similar as well.
3146  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Price Selling on: January 01, 2020, 08:45:16 AM
But that does not mean bitcoin will just continue to dump, if there are people who dump, there are also people who are just waiting for that right timing as bitcoin always bounce back every time it dump.

That dirty btc might be dump in the market but it's just a normal thing here, bitcoin will remain volatile and the fact that it had died many times, there is no sense to be panic now.
It is normal for markets to go up and down in any financial commodity of course but it is even more normal for it to happen for bitcoin. We have been active for 10 years now (since first bitcoin) and I can tell you that bitcoin for the past 10 years has gone up and down like crazy all the time.

It is not doing those crazy moves every single day of course, most of the days it is just like any other stock that goes up and down small time and that is normal, we do not expect it to do anything crazy but any day it could suddenly go up 50% to 10 thousand dollars and nobody would be shocked, we would be a bit surprised but not shocked because it has done similar things before, or maybe it would go down to 5 thousand dollars and that would be understandable as well, these HUGE moves happened before so they are not impossible to imagine for us.
3147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price in January 2020 will touch 10k, What do you think? on: December 31, 2019, 04:03:36 PM
It is definitely possible, bitcoin could be $5k tomorrow or $10k, we may never know that until it happens. However come to look at what happened to bitcoin, I feel like what the increases "halving" could bring is already brought, I don't think there will be anything extra on top of this, last years April was the moment all the rich folks bought bitcoin for the halving purposes on a long term trajectory and that was it, we sold bunch of it to them as well and now we are at a level where everyone feels like is okay for the halving.

I consider only a year after the halving itself where we will start to see real increases, that is when it happened last time and why not have the same result once again? Miners already have some bitcoins saved up so they will prolong it and we will once again have an increase one year after the halving.
3148  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat currencies on: December 31, 2019, 03:08:28 PM
USA is good because of capitalism but it does come with its price. Old people used to say "we used to have money but didn't had anything buy, now there is a lot to buy but we don't have the money" and we all know what they mean by that now. When capitalism first started it was a good idea, the gap wasn't that big and there was a big middle class, in 60's you could live in USA, be a factory worker and have a house that you paid for and send your children to college and could own couple cars or change your car every 5 years.

Nowadays the wealth gap is bigger so there are a lot of poor people and few rich people, there are very few factories as it is because its overseas and people who do manual labor can't afford a house at all, can't send their kids to college or even a bad health risk could set them back for years.
3149  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we heading towards Recession? on: December 31, 2019, 08:45:40 AM
Considering the economy has been stable for a long time and even under Trump the companies have shown the best side of them instead of the greedy one we all know they are, they want another reelection of Trump, after that we all know he can't be elected a third time so on his second term all the worse will come out.

Now, this could be considered a phony allegation because right now there is nothing backing it up but we have seen companies laying off people and claiming to made profits, which tells you if they didn't laid off thousands of people they would have profited all the same but less profits, so they exchanged more profits (instead of small profits, not instead of loss) to thousands of jobs. In his second term there won't be any need to show any profits so I assume IF there is a recession that is when it will happen.
3150  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade with planning on: December 31, 2019, 08:13:08 AM
A lot of traders out there try to jump into trading and when they lose they get out equally quickly. Instead of all this it is way better to figure things out before jumping in. This is quite doable with proper guide and that’s what I found with this https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/turning-forex-into-a-side-gig-guide-for-beginner-traders/, I believe it is going to be extremely helpful for a lot of traders here.
As long as people realize the reality of trading is not to get rich quick or be a super wealthy person over night, there will be success.

Trading is something you do constantly to get a small amount of profit and do it constantly for 365 days a year in order to actually reach to a level that is acceptable but not super high. If you actually trade 50 weeks a year for 5 days a week for 8 hours a day and finish the year with 20% that is good, if you finish anything under that is a bit difficult but if you try to finish with 100%+ you will instead lose all your money and not make any.

People do not realize how hard it is to have a 20% average profit every year for years, if you can put a certain amount of money (doesn't have to be a million dollars but should be 100 bucks neither) and trade it with 20% per year then you would leave your child an amazing life after 50 years of doing that. That is what people should aim at but unfortunately they miss that point.
3151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 30, 2019, 03:48:40 PM
Liverpool is just coasting to finish line as it seems, everyone assumes they are working hard to win the championship but Klopp built such a team that right now they are literally just pure talent that destroys anyone they played against, it is not even hard work for them, they are just miles miles better than any other team.

Maybe City could have been close but the talent gap between them has been increased by the managers, Klopp is just insane. Think about it this way, you are the manager of a team who just won the champions league and lost champions league on the finals one year before, and its transfer time and owner says buy whoever you want, would you seriously not get any players like Klopp? Dude built this awesome team from zero, that is seriously astonishing.
3152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: December 30, 2019, 03:12:14 PM
OKC is overachieving their talents for sure, Billy Donovan is not a good coach at all, dude sucked when he had Durant and Westbrook together, he then had PG and Westbrook as well all the while Adams keep improving and he was still the same coach he was today yet somehow this season even tho they don't have any player as good as Durant/westbrook/pg13 they are still fighting for a playoff spot and looking at 8th seed (and spurs coming from 9th as well) they have some sort of gap that makes sure they can lose few games here and there as well.

I don't get it, how did a team that everyone was expecting to tank this season managed to become this good? Whats their secret? Is it any change that we saw but I missed? Are they playing a different way? I don't know what the answer is but I am %100 sure nobody expected them to be this good.
3153  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆 Crypto Dice Site of the Year 2019 on: December 29, 2019, 05:43:28 PM
It is hilarious that these top places try to "cheat" a poll that would yield absolutely nothing in return. Let's be honest neither luckygames nor wixiplay is NEARLY big enough to compete with places like bitsler and primedice. Those places have over a thousand people sometimes on their user number and 99.99% of the time they are over 500 people easily whereas the other places are glad that they are over 100 anytime they get that much people all at once, they are running places with 60-70 people playing most of the time.

Now, looking at the voting numbers they have 80 and 70 votes, that means they probably have same number of votes as the active number of players yet a place like stake that goes over 1000 every day has 28 votes. It is like a joke, the whole poll is a total joke.
3154  Economy / Gambling / Re: Wixiplay.io is rigged | one in ten million session | fake PF on: December 29, 2019, 05:12:24 PM
Honestly, the problem is not out of hand. They haven't really made any changes to their website even after they got outed by OP here and rhavar checking it out, everyone can now see that they have been wrong and this place is a scam website and they haven't fixed it a single bit. They are actually attacking people who want the website to change their provably fair method but they are declining to do that and attacking whoever wants something like that.

I can guarantee everyone who gambles here, if you want to gamble here know that you will lose your money and you will be attacked for being scammed, there is no way this place is safe now and everyone should give them a bad negative for running a casino with a fake provably fair that steals money from their users.
3155  Economy / Economics / Re: Coming Changes Bitcoin will be backing USA dollars on: December 29, 2019, 08:25:54 AM
If somehow (and I doubt this will happen) USA manages to make their own stablecoin, and that is a big IF at that, that would be super amazing and bitcoin would be pegged to it for sure. Even when a shady company with absolutely no guarantee created USDT everyone loved it and they used it like hell, there were billions of dollars worth of it in the market.

Now, think about how valuable that could be if people just used a stablecoin that was backed by USA government, that would be both beneficial to us and to USA as well. We would have a stablecoin that is backed by proper government that would actually pay us the fiat counterpart whenever we want to and USA would be able to raise billions of dollars from printing however much they want to print as long as it is backed.
3156  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the weirdest thing you have seen for sale for Bitcoin? on: December 29, 2019, 07:36:55 AM
For the "weirdest" would be underwear that was already on someone before, I don't really understand kink as much as other people so I don't know what the allure is for such a thing but that was seriously "weird" to me who doesn't understand it. But, if we are going with "rarest" type of deal, mercenary for hire must be the rarest and most horrific thing to consider, you out there with some bitcoin could pay a person to kill another person, just like that.

Having that type of power to end a whole life is very very scary, not just for the person who might get killed which is horrific enough but also scary for people who have that much bitcoin as well, if you own 20+ bitcoins you have the power of paying someone to murder another person, that power is horrible and not one I would like to have.
3157  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there formula for bitcoin price ? on: December 29, 2019, 06:58:41 AM
From the start of bitcoin the very first thing that was created was the pricing, everyone wanted to buy bitcoin and everyone wanted to sell theirs, so in the end there was a conclusion that whoever wants to sell bitcoin decided the price of it, if you are willing to sell your bitcoin only for 20 thousand dollars, then that is the price for you, if enough people believe the same thing with you then there will be less people selling under $20k and eventually price would go up, if you believe the price is 1 thousand then that will be the price.

Buyers are always around and they always buy but since it is a scarce product bitcoins price has always been decided by what the sellers are willing to sell their bitcoin for. In order to see what the price is, we have to see what sellers are willing to sell bitcoin for.
3158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel more lucky than usual when it's New Year's. on: December 28, 2019, 06:24:48 PM
I feel more "reckless" when I gamble around new years because I feel like this is the time to make a new start, either I will lose all my money and "will stop gambling" which never happens or I will make a lot of money and treat myself a good gift for new years. That doesn't mean I feel lucky because most of the time I lose money and I know I will lose money, that is what casinos are for, I mean casinos are designed to make you lose, at least in overall terms the more people gamble the more money casinos make, even if person A gets lucky somehow the end result would be 100 people losing to cover that lucky run.

However, once I was extreme lucky, I made 5x of my bankroll one year and I purchased a holiday for myself that year, it was nothing major and not a big money just 2 day getaway for me and my wife but it was amazing.
3159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 28, 2019, 05:02:20 PM
Honestly, Zlatan is one of the best strikers the world has ever seen, he has flair and talent and everything that comes with it, but is he STILL worth the money for it? I mean surely he is a good player but can't they find someone else for that kind of money?

3 million euro is not a lot in football terms, players are making a lot more than that nowadays so 3 million is a good bargain for a player like Zlatan normally but dude is 38 years old, he might have played very well in Los Angeles but that is american league and we all know how horrible that league is, it can't be even compared to any league in Europe, I would take Andorra over USA when we talk about leagues (okay I might be exaggerating a bit but still GO LUSITANS!).

I would say this will not be a pick Milan will be happy about in the end, just my guess.
3160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum co-founder Secretly Sold $11M Worth of ETH on Christmas Day! Got Outed! on: December 28, 2019, 04:31:43 PM
He thought it would go unnoticed because we would be full and occupied with family on Christmas Day!

https://www.cryptozink.io/ethereum-co-founder-jeff-wilcke-secretly-sold-eth/
Just because someone sold his ethereum doesn't make him a bad person, and just because he did it on christmas doesn't mean he did it to go unnoticed, maybe it was all family got together and they thought it is better for him to be out of crypto for a while and put his money in a savings account for traditional income so that one day his children go to any college they want and get as best life offers them as they could. If anyone gave me 11 million dollars worth of ethereum I would be selling that right away without a second thought.

I have a dream of owning a cinema saloon one day and that would be WAY more than enough, not everyone wants to be in crypto for life, some of us are here because we want to take this until we don't need it anymore and as soon as we don't need it we will quit.
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