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3361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Would ICO scene succeed if it was organized like crowdfunding not investing? on: October 20, 2019, 07:37:17 PM
What would happen if people didn't follow greed and projects didn't promise crazy gains? If this was not main theme of ICO craze, but instead - true and honest support?
Here you got the point. Unfortunately most people are looking for what ROI they may get rather than supporting some innovative ideas to be turning as big project to ease human efforts nor empowering humans to next levels. It is selfish world, people may contribute only on what returns they get in quick time and definitely not based on what project they are going to invest. This is the reasons fake devs promising big returns to accomplish their target money.

If you support someone for example through Patreon - you give him money and you don't really think much what will happen with this money - it's lost for you anyway and you feel good for supporting someone you like.
I may not do that frequently or month once or if with some reasonably big money means yearly once. This way good projects may not get enough funds to work with. They must need to talk about returns for investments to achieve some decent funds which may be sufficient for their project building.

If all ICOs went that route, sure, we wouldn't see such crazy gains but we wouldn't also see such falls.
That route is literally about donations. The real catch is how often and how big that every common man will be ready to donate.
3362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SEC blocks Telegram with its $1.7 Billion token sale on: October 20, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
The fact that telegram already had a ton of money in their pockets and also they were doing very well as a business as well and decided to do tokens instead of IPO which would mean that people who hold the tokens would have no profit sharing at all and would have no control over the company like a shareholder would meant that telegram would raise as much money or even more money on token sale than a company that does IPO and opens its stocks to public which means shareholders will make profits (dividends or stock price increase) and will have a controlling interest if they end up getting 51%+ of it and can even vote to remove the CEO so they have a decent strength.

SEC made a good decision, token sale is for stuff that needs money to exist and created, not for companies who are already doing well to make even more money just because they can without giving up anything.
3363  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bittrex International shutting down services from 31 countries. on: October 20, 2019, 04:59:13 PM
Looking at the list of the countries, they are all non-white non-christian countries that are economically challenged. Bittrex is an idiot if they think bitcoin is helping the European or american countries the most, it is helping literally the low income and financially distressed countries like the list here, these countries are the ones that need bitcoin to begin with and we are talking about removing them from the list.

It is idiotic to not help these people out, you have to be caring about how much money you will make in revenue more than you care about helping people out and that is not what bitcoin is, the purpose of bitcoin is to help people who do not have other means to financially reach out to rest of the world, not close the door on them when they get here.
3364  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is anyone here that has referrals on any exchange? on: October 20, 2019, 04:38:01 PM
Inviting "friends" will never work, you have only so many friends plus how many rich friends could you have? In the end that number is limited unless you are friends with bill gates who wants to spend a few million to test crypto trading somehow which is unlikely because if you are friends with him you would already take advantage of that friendship more than a freaking affiliate link.

However, if you manage to market the link to strangers online then you may end up with a lot more money but you can't just post your link here and there and hope for the best, that only works if you are the top advertisement on google and that requires more money than you make honestly (tried) so I would say sell something related to crypto but make sure you give a promotion code for everyone who signs up with your link and use that as discount, it works wonders.
3365  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy now Bitcoin today on: October 20, 2019, 03:45:18 PM
I think it looks like exsasie is right, the price needs to go down only a juuuuuust a bit, like if we test to $7300 first then we have like $7000 for 1 hour or so and jump right back to $7300 then the price would say "hmmm they don't allow us to go under $7300, we tried $7000 and it went back up" and then traders will say "if the accumulation is over and price is not going down then maybe we should go up again before we drop".

So, the price may drop to $7600-$7300 levels and then jump super high, that would end up with price going over $9k+ for the first time since the last months drop and then probably stay above $9k+ for a while until traders are done selling all their coins without disturbing the market, after they are done then price may end up dropping once again for another accumulation phase.
3366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price fluctuations - Opportunity or despair? on: October 19, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
Traders get oppurtunity when prices fluctuates to move their investment and benefited from it.Manipulations are always in every stream and whales manipulate prices in crypto market.So its just your decision that which time suits you.
Obviously, if you are a trader and you want to take advantage of it you can but the reality is that its because we have no regulations which is actually a good thing. This way fluctuations are actually an opportunity definitely not a despair.

There is nothing that keeps bitcoin from being 1 dollar or 1 million dollars, I am talking about technical and legal aspects here and not financial ones, there is a ton of things keeping bitcoin going to 1 dollars and 1 million dollars financially but nothing technically nor legally so that means price will definitely move up and down like crazy since nobody can do anything about it.

If a stock goes up too much, SEC takes a look at it and sees if it was legit or fake, nobody takes a look at bitcoin. Hence, it is the deregulation and not financial reasons.
3367  Economy / Speculation / Re: BULL VS BEAR on: October 19, 2019, 01:44:53 PM
I think the main 3 winners are definitely right, the price will definitely be somewhere between $7.5k and $9.5k, I don't see it going anywhere under or over those prices any time soon.

Even if a bull run happens and price goes above $10k for a while, it sure will fall under $10k once again and we all know it goes to $9.5k directly when it goes under $10k, it doesn't stop like at $9.8k or something, that has never happened in history of bitcoin, if it goes under $10k its going under $9.5k as well.

It means the price will %99 be anywhere between $7.5k and $9.5k when the month ends. Sure, that is a big difference and sure ending at $9.5k would mean a lot different things for the future than ending it with $7.5k but person who said $14k for example is dead wrong and we can see people agree thanks to this poll.
3368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where will this fluctuation end ? on: October 19, 2019, 12:22:28 PM
Never? Fluctuation is the nature of bitcoin and even if this new one that goes between $7.7k to $8.3k ends somehow (which it will eventually) there will be a new one, just a month or so ago we were around $9.4k to $10.4k or so and we moved up and down between those, before that I remember $3.4k to $4.2k as well and before that we were doing $6.3k to $7.2k as well, you can go as further as possible and you will find trends and fluctuations on bitcoin price, the place it fluctuates changes all the time but the fact that it goes up and down between certain prices never really changes, it is the nature of bitcoin.

In order for traders to make money the price needs to go down and up so they can buy and sell which means it will forever happen as long as there are traders in bitcoin.
3369  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC TO 35K$ IN 2020 on: October 18, 2019, 06:50:06 PM
It is also a bit weird that the OP has found out about $10k once and then he claims he can't share the reason why he thinks bitcoin will be $30k.

I am sorry but I will not believe you if that is my option, sure I do believe bitcoin will go up most probably and I believe $30k is possibility but none of that comes from a forum member who happened to hit $3k to $10k right once and gives no other explanation, I have my own reasons to believe bitcoin will be going high and I can act accordingly to my thoughts but asking people online, strangers at that, to believe you because you were right once makes no sense at all.

I have always been bull on bitcoin and have always hit the nail right in the head whenever bitcoin went up, sure I failed many times when it went down instead but I can show you countless times I have been right when it went up, does that mean people should listen to me? I don't think so.
3370  Economy / Economics / Re: The Decline and Fall of the European Union on: October 18, 2019, 05:57:48 PM
Let's not overreact just because UK had a little fall off with EU, they were never really fully involved anyway, they had their own currency whereas everyone else moved to Euro for example.

The European block is not quite strong but it never was, people who thought Europe as a whole thing where nations pick their representatives and nations were ruled in one EU committee were always wrong, your own politician that you pick as president (or prime minister) has always been your ruler, there was some rules that needed to be followed of course but it was always people electing the politicians with the most power in that nation.

If people elected the most corrupt and idiot politicians out there then there is nothing EU can do and it is irrelevant to EU because nothing has changed about their rules for the 20 years, so if EU is the same for 20 years, any change must be coming from the nations.
3371  Economy / Economics / Re: BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR 6 YEARS on: October 18, 2019, 04:40:32 PM
I have started around the same time, I didn't know it would get this big, I never realized it would get this big, and to be perfectly honest with you I never cared about it going big neither. I have always seen bitcoin as a currency, that is what people are missing out, I have seen it as something that I can get paid with and then pay with as well.

I have worked and earned bitcoins in the past 6 years and I have spent all of that back into crypto related stuff as well, I am making enough money as it is with crypto so I don't care if I would profit via some bitcoin going up profit trade type of situation, no I care that I work and get paid in crypto then spend that crypto into stuff that I can buy with crypto (sometimes I cash out for bills and such), that is the awesome part of bitcoin for me.
3372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My list of 5 Sleeping Giants of 2020 :) on: October 17, 2019, 06:35:05 AM
ADA is great one because the team always works on it and that is the key, they didn't just get money and funds to stop than to live forever, some teams just make an ICO and get the funds to live forever without caring about the rest of the project, ADA is not like that, they work on their project.

BNB is definitely my top candidate for being one of the biggest altcoins ever in the future, top 3 candidate in my eye, ripple is useless anyway and doesn't deserve their spot and they are artificially increasing their numbers anyway so they will go down eventually, lets hope that happens soon and I feel like BNB could rival top 3 with eth together.

I don't really have a third because those two are good enough but if I had to pick a third I would say DASH has a pretty solid masternode deal, maybe that might interest people in the future.
3373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: It's going to get harder for alts to list on the big exchanges on: October 16, 2019, 04:34:43 PM
It is actually getting easier and easier. Its just hard to stay on the exchanges because when you don't have anyone trading your coin it is quite possible to have your coin delisted but in order to list you just have to pay the exchanges a certain amount of money.

The sad part is, you pay up to 10 bitcoins to get listed but if you do not get traded and have low volume eventually you get delisted and you are not getting that money back, it was for listing and it got listed, it is your duty to keep your coin interested and if not then you can say bye bye to your listing fee. As long as people keep getting paid for their projects and find the funding in ICO or IEO or whatever they are doing, in the end they will be able to just pay 5 to 10 exchanges depending on the funds they have to get listed.
3374  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dollar-Cost Averaging for Your Crypto Portfolio on: October 16, 2019, 04:03:15 PM
It is not always easy to have enough funds to dollar cost average your portfolio, so if the bot is working as expected then it needs new money involved time to time, it all depends on the user of course but there has been a lot of bots during the 2018 bear run time that used this DCA and did it worked? Sure, the idea worked but not everyone had enough money to DCA their positions.

Some of them had predetermined numbers for their portfolios like you did, for example 20% btc at all times which meant when new money came in it arranged it accordingly, some however did " buy from the biggest drops first" to DCA the worse losers and that worked too. All of it works, idea is perfect, yet when someone doesn't have new funds all of it goes to waste and can't be even used.
3375  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Guides for trading how to check if your token not performing well on: October 16, 2019, 03:31:33 PM
Those are not really that much of a big deal, sure one hour change is something but at the end of the day this is altcoins so one hour change means it could also turn the other way around in an hour as well, there is alsy 24 hours which may take some more time but at the same time it could be fixed at most in a week as well.

Hence, maybe the 7 day one is the only one that makes any difference, if a coin drops a whole ton lot in 7 days then it may take a long time to cover that back up, or if it is the highest earner in the last week then it may take to go back down, so I would say that 7 days one is the most important one in those things. I have a ton of bots on telegram that shows individual increases and decreases but having all of them on one single list looks much better.
3376  Economy / Services / Re: [Hiring] (ONLINE) Virtual assistant 25$ /Hr Minimum 3 hours daily on: October 16, 2019, 08:02:17 AM
im looking for an assistant to expand my business, good in customer service, i prefer someone from usa canada or uk. Thank you pm me for more info thanks
It seems you are looking for hiring someone since last May month, have you already hired anyone for your previous requirement because it is going to be almost 5 months since you started searching, a serious businessman will not let the gaps to go big or those business demands will never allow big gap.

I am working with some companies, that are forwarding me clients for various jobs, basic accounting ,communication, customer service this is what i need from you.
You must explain in detail about what kind of accounting and customer services that you are looking for. This may be the reason why you are still looking for (probably you might be looking for new people for new positions but elaborating in more details may get you more applicants which may help you to keep a waiting-list rather than searching again and again for same type of job).
3377  Economy / Speculation / Re: 20K by March, A positive Look at the market. on: October 15, 2019, 06:46:01 PM
$20k by march would only happen under one condition. The halving gets close and miners stop selling their coins. Do you realize how much money that would mean if miners stop selling their coins?

We are talking about 15 million dollars a month, so if they stop then there would be less sell pressure on bitcoin and buyers will continue buy like nothing changed at first but since the sellers are gone those buyers would increase the price of bitcoin, when it increases it will break a resistance and when that happens people all start to buy which means a bull hype and the price would increase even more.

We could break all resistance points until $20k and reach there as long as enough people join in to buy and miners stop selling and not sell until it reaches $20k, the moment they start to sell again we won't be going any further up.
3378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Could Soon Surge by 20%? on: October 15, 2019, 06:04:38 PM
Looking at how we are at around 8300 right now that would mean the price would be around 9900 and I do not think price will ever be around those levels. Not that it won't go up, it will definitely go up, either now or later but it will definitely go up. But, in order to go up 20% we would have to go up to 9900 and stop there which looks impossible since it is neither a support level nor a resistance level.

So, it could potentially go up to 9400 and stay there (a bit higher to make sure it is not testing the support all the time, so 9.5 is more likely) or it would go to 10.6k because that is the next one. So, if the price is going up, then it is either going up to 9.5 or to 10.5 levels, anything around there would be fine but if it is in between those levels like 9.9 then it will not stay there for too long.
3379  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Update: Range Highs Taken? What's next for BTC? on: October 15, 2019, 07:32:09 AM
my thoughts about bitcoin buying bitcoin are now around $ 8.3k and waiting for good results next month many speculate it will reach $ 9500, so for the next month will not fall below $ 8,000.
I am sure the resistance around $8300 will keep on holding which will push prices to recover further toward $9000 and then $9800 levels. It means we may go buying right away with both short term and long term plans of trading/investment. In short term, prices may test $8050 again before testing $8600 levels still it is mostly unlikely to happen. So, buying right now will not disappoint anyone even in short term.

My prediction is possible it's wrong, but I still hope that Bitcoin this week can break through the price of resistance at $ 8,800.
With respect to time frame, you may turn wrong but who know, $8800 levels may happen at any time. Last week, we have seen prices failed to sustain around $8600 levels hence this week breaking $8600 levels will definitely open roads for prices to test above $9000 levels easily.
3380  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it worth for me in my situation to start btc trading? on: October 15, 2019, 06:10:29 AM
There needs to be a lot of coordination between savings, trading, and working to make more bitcoin when you have a little capital.

I started this bitcoin world with zero dollars, ZERO, I had nothing but I worked for it, I worked on faucets like crazy back in the day years ago, I made enough by selling and affiliating others, I made some by working for people and help them get their job done.

In the end I made enough to start trading myself, now I have a good sized portfolio that doesn't worth too much but at least I have been pure crypto with no fiat job for the past year or so and that means not only I managed to survive without fiat income but I also saved a bit aside and made a good profit as well. Couldn't have done that with a regular salary on a suit+tie type of job for sure.
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