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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 24, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
Ok let's get some speculation going.
Black market is a $650 Billion market and if Monero take 1% of that market in the future,  price would have to be atleast 400 USD per coin.
Source: http://worldbitcoinnetwork.com/BitcoinPriceModel-Alpha.html
According to these figures http://www.havocscope.com/products/ranking/ , it's actually even bigger. Around 1.8 trillion USD.
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitshares - The Great Satan on the Blockchain on: August 22, 2014, 07:13:44 PM
This is a fucking travesty. What kind of degenerate scum would support this blatantly regressive scheme?
883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 07:06:27 PM
New official darkcoin band: 4 a-non blondes


serious?!?  link to any tunes and band info?

It's called 4 non blondes.
884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are your top 5 altcoins - in order? on: August 22, 2014, 06:37:40 PM
Darkcoin fails all four prerequisite tests for legitimacy, not just one!

100% open source?  No.  Dark fails this one.
100% POW?  No.  Dark fails here too.
Innovative?  No.  Obfuscation based coins are not innovative and just copy silly mixers; ring signatures are true innovation.
Fair launch?  No.  Dark fails again, thanks to it's massive pre/insta mine and bogus emission curve.

This is why the market is punishing greedy/naive Dark bagholders and rewarding savvy Monero investors.

And let's not even get into the hilarity of losing your Dark in a Madoffnode Ponzi collapse, as happened to DZ's suckers inves-durrs.
You can't compare basic obfuscation based coins with Darksend+. You're making a mistake there. The anonymity is proven to work, you should wait for the audit from K.A. then if you doubt it.
It will be open source after the audit or RC5 so it's not that far away.
People tend to say that Bitcoin was instamined because Satoshi mined so many coins don't they? The same could be said here.
I wouldn't call these "instamines" equivalent, as Satoshi was basically the only one mining, whereas with Darkcoin, the launch was announced and many people mined. Although to his credit,  Satoshi did invite others to mine at some point, it was just that no one cared to do so.
885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are your top 5 altcoins - in order? on: August 22, 2014, 06:33:31 PM
Prerequisites for a coin to be legit: 100% POW, innovative, fair launch, 100% open source
Monero - ring signatures provide true privacy, unlike silly obfuscation-based CLOAK/DARK/BLACK/XC
-snip-
So you're issue with Darkcoin is that it is not yet fully open source correct?
Are you sure you want to be throwing out words like that? Have you checked out DRK after the update?
The anonymity part of it works, and more is planned for the next one. Indeed Monero does provide privacy but so does DRK. I guess people should wait for this guy https://twitter.com/anonymouscoin to release his review of the code.
I'd put my bets at DRK and Monero right now, while there are a few other interesting other coins.

Darkcoin fails all four prerequisite tests for legitimacy, not just one!

100% open source?  No.  Dark fails this one.
100% POW?  No.  Dark fails here too.
Innovative?  No.  Obfuscation based coins are not innovative and just copy silly mixers; ring signatures are true innovation.
Fair launch?  No.  Dark fails again, thanks to it's massive pre/insta mine and bogus emission curve.

This is why the market is punishing greedy/naive Dark bagholders and rewarding savvy Monero investors.

And let's not even get into the hilarity of losing your Dark in a Madoffnode Ponzi collapse, as happened to DZ's suckers inves-durrs.
It'll be funny to watch you blather about "true innovation" when Darkcoin goes open source and captures the vast majority of the anonymity market. Try explaining what makes the coin anonymous to those who couldn't care less ( basically everyone outside of programmers and cryptographers).
886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero) on: August 22, 2014, 01:42:54 PM
I thought about that... And I agree with @Cheesus

Why does this not surprise me? Let me think....hmm. Umm.

Oh yeah, that's right! Because you are both BCN shills?





Registered within 4 minutes of each other. What a coincidence.
887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? on: August 21, 2014, 11:21:04 PM
I appreciate you being willing to give it a chance:) It is some time away, but I'm sure you'll be sufficiently impressed with it when it officially launches!
Honestly, you have the best attitude among anyone associated with Monero. Build something awesome, and I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? on: August 21, 2014, 11:05:35 PM
Have you tried downloading the client? Everything is clunky and slow. I'm not really big on Cryptonote, but I tried Boolberry, just to see if the problem was endemic to Cryptonote, and it isn't. Boolberry was basically one click, fast and everything worked. Using Monero gave me the perception that it was put together by incompetents. These people are holding up a pile of shit and claiming that it's gold. The community is literally full of megalomaniac delusionals. At least put some effort into usability!

I'm sorry, but what you see as the difference between "hard to use" and "easy to use" is completely nuanced. You're like a fandroid arguing that sideloading with adb is much easier in 2.3, and everyone should just use 2.3. Usability is not an overnight exercise.

Are BBR's binary builds significantly easier to use for the handful of somewhat technically capable cryptonerds on this forum? Absolutely. Why is Monero not matching those? Because we're exceedingly busy overhauling the core of Monero: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/tree/development to make room for improved usability. To wit: our next tagged release will include static compilation, but will not include a GUI.

Why? Because a good GUI is not thrown together in a vague attempt to be "first". A GUI requires pragmatism, forethought, and careful planning. Here's an example of how that process works: http://imgur.com/a/ERheR
Can't wait to try out your GUI. Based on your current client, my expectations aren't exactly high, but time will tell.
889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darkcoin's Alternative To Tor on: August 21, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Are you really that stupid?

Tons of nodes are run by volunteers all over the world.
For example perfect-privacy runs exit nodes on all their vpns to support tor.
Sure, a percentage of them are run by privacy advocates. But Tor is massive. The cost of running these nodes is not negligible.
890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darkcoin's Alternative To Tor on: August 21, 2014, 10:46:58 PM
Yeah ok, those nodes that cost insane amounts of money are being run by altruistic privacy lovers. Sure, the project that received millions of dollars in government funding is run by volunteers. I'd like to purchase one gram of whatever it is that you are smoking.
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? on: August 21, 2014, 10:38:51 PM
How pathetic:

First user in this thread is a Litecoin user with a Bitmixer.io Singature haha.
Second is a Bytecoin scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0).
Third is a Darkcoin fanboy.


It has features, though, but sadly the features are pointless, and can never go beyond appealing to teenagers and unmarried men in their thirties that have prostituted themselves to become Monero Shills. OMFG!

Go away, privacy is not only a feature its a human right, without privacy no freedom can exist.
Monero shills can't do any better than a 3x ad hominem? Sad.
892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? on: August 21, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
Have you tried downloading the client? Everything is clunky and slow. I'm not really big on Cryptonote, but I tried Boolberry, just to see if the problem was endemic to Cryptonote, and it isn't. Boolberry was basically one click, fast and everything worked. Using Monero gave me the perception that it was put together by incompetents. These people are holding up a pile of shit and claiming that it's gold. The community is literally full of megalomaniac delusionals. At least put some effort into usability!
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darkcoin's Alternative To Tor on: August 21, 2014, 10:15:25 PM
It can't be free as it will add additional expense for the masternode operators. Bandwidth isn't free.

Why is TOR, I2P and Johndonym free to use then?

I can tell you why, the difference is, those people believe in Privacy, you guys only believe in $.
https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en
 

Tor: Sponsors
Active Sponsors in 2014:
SRI International (2011-2014)
US Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor (2013-2015)
National Science Foundation joint with Georgia Tech and Princeton University (2012-2016)
Radio Free Asia (2012-2014)
An anonymous North American ISP (2009-present)
The Ford Foundation (2013-2014)
Google Summer of Code (2007-present)
More than 4,300 personal donations from individuals like you (2006-present)
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darkcoin's Alternative To Tor on: August 21, 2014, 09:58:12 PM
It can't be free as it will add additional expense for the masternode operators. Bandwidth isn't free.
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
I like Iris. We should move away from using "dark" in our branding.
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 20, 2014, 10:47:08 PM
As a community we should be very wary of concern trolling. I don't think they'll do any real damage, but they'll certainly try. Luckily, these guys are rather easy to spot.
897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Litecoin going to survive the fall? on: August 20, 2014, 07:42:48 PM
why would leader alt die?
Because it doesn't do anything that Bitcoin can't. It's the first shitcoin. Actually not even first. Tenebrix came before it.
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: August 20, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
look at all other coins, they lost 95% in value! Litecoin is strong compared to these. Litecoin will always be number 2 and the silver of the cryptoworld  Smiley
Litecoin is abject trash. It does nothing that Bitcoin can't do, so your silver analogy doesn't make any sense. Litecoin will stagnate and then die, being replaced with whichever anonymous coin comes out ahead of the others.
899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 20, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
If you read the latest development update, it says that enforcement testing is going to start soon, and enforcement should occur prior to RC5.
900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 20, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
Perhaps just give masternodes the option to send 1 out of every x payments to an address administrated by the Darkcoin foundation. These funds would then be distributed between a number of charities that we could vote on. Additionally, such a scheme could be implemented with a % of transaction fees.
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