The biggest thing to overcome, in my opinion, is that no single person should have access to the node (for pooled nodes) or any of the information going through it. If this can be fixed, then decentralization is effectively guaranteed, regardless of who owns the node or what provider is hosting it.

The conception of many important things/companies/groups can be argued to have been "illegitimate", yet they continue to shape our world. Your personal feelings are quite irrelevant when it comes to investing. The market cares for results, not whether someone thinks it's fair.

Let's assume that both DRK and CN coins have enough anonymity to evade everyone except government entities. I know you think Darkcoin anonymity is trivial, but the reality is that neither you  (nor anyone else from competitor coins) can trace a transaction.

To simplify things a bit, let's assign a numerical value to anonymity. Let's say Darkcoin has a value of 2, CN has a value of 2.5 and you need 5 to achieve "true" anonymity.  Let's say that our arbitrary value of 2 is good enough to evade everyone except the NSA. A rating of 2.5 does you no additional good, because it's still less than the 5 you need. So although you can say it's technically more anonymous, that "extra" anonymity does you no practical good, while the platform that provides it actually has negatives. Can you see what I'm saying? Why would anyone looking for privacy/anonymity go with CN, if it provides no additional benefit, while introducing new problems into the equation?

edit: I know you'll try to bring nodes into this, so once again, I'll remind you that CN nodes can also be attacked. And don't say you'll have more, the bloat will diminish the number of nodes you would have otherwise had.

It's like he doesn't understand the argument.

Can we please report this guy for spam? I usually don't care about trolls, but when half the posts on a page are his, that qualifies as spam.

I'm not going to unignore you until you stop spreading FUD and reply only to the content of my post. We all know you hate Darkcoin's instamine, you don't need to bring it up in every post. It just makes you look like a raving troll. Any argument that Darkcoin's nodes can be taken down can also be applied to any coin with nodes...which is all of them. If someone wanted to take down a CN coin, they could target the seeder nodes and there goes your coin. So that isn't an argument. Additionally, because of the use of multiple nodes in a single round of transaction signing, you could own half the nodes and still be unable to deanonymize any significant number of transactions.

I was never offered a satisfactory response to the following question I asked a couple of days ago: If Cryptonote is not NSA proof, what does it offer over coins like Darkcoin that also give non-NSA proof anonymity ? With the current paradigm Darkcoin is using, only the NSA ( or someone equally powerful) will be able to target and deanonymize users' transactions. So why go through the hassle of a new, unvetted code base for no resultant benefit? If Darkcoin gets you to the point that you're anonymous from everyone but the NSA, and it does so without massive bloat, bugs etc, why would anyone need CN coins?

Darkcoin will likely be ready about a year sooner than any CN coin. And yet the end result will be effectively the same. I know you guys all like to say that CN coins give anonymity now, but that is disingenuous and you know it. They may technically be anonymous, but they are FAR from ready for real world use.

Rich idiots, apparently. Also a lot of programmers/ people with technical knowledge. Wonder what would draw such people to DRK, and not the shitcoins you patronize?

I would go with BCN. Never go with the clone.

Damn, this troll is persistent. Back when I actually bothered to troll ( I was really envious of NXT, now I see the same pattern with others being envious of Dark!  ), I would stop after a while. Feels good to be on the receiving end of envy

What a great day to not be invested in any CN coins.

He chose...poorly.

I'm not saying that Darkcoin is a complete solution; I already acknowledged that such a solution won't be possible until the advent of open source hardware. What it will do, is provide privacy through a more practical platform (Bitcoin API compatibility, Uses Bitcoin codebase, No bloat issues, Works on 32 bit OS, among others).  I know that some of these, like the 32 bit OS issue, can be fixed, but there are many such issues that will continue to soak up development time for years to come.

It looks like he mainly pointed out that I2P will not stop entities like the NSA. So it isn't really truly anonymous, then is it? Competitors will have enough "anonymity" for the people who want privacy, but for whom being NSA proof is not really a concern. I see those people as Darkcoin's target market. Monero will not dominate this market, and yet it also won't be able to get the "NSA proof" market. So what good is it? Who will use Monero? It's an incomplete solution looking for a problem.

I wish we had trolls who weren't utter morons.

I2P is for IP obfuscation. According to Anonymint, it isn't a perfect solution. Evan stated that Darkcoin will have IP obfuscation , but he hasn't announced how it will be achieved. It could be I2P, but I hope he has a better solution.

Anonymint has spent the past two days tearing apart Monero. Check out his posts on their thread.

Anonymint has been spending the past couple of days tearing apart XMR. From his posts, it's clear that their solution is nowhere near perfect. So they put in all this effort, have a coin that is non-compatible with Bitcoin api, generates tons of bloat, and in the end there are still big loopholes. What was the purpose of all that effort, if not to create a bulletproof coin? Not sure if that renders all Cryptonote coins DOA, but it sure raises questions. What is the purpose of CN coins if they have all these negatives, but few real positives?

If we really don't want him here, just report all his posts as spam.

Who cares if they don't update? With RC4, all non paying blocks will be rejected. So pay or don't get any coins when you mine.