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1481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 27, 2015, 04:51:30 PM


We have no dev and no plan.  
There was a dev, there was a plan, there were a cheaters and even for them there was a plan.
And there were dbt1033  and his friend masteretarded who knows better. Let's enjoy their knowledge.

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I'm sure people are just exasperated at this point...moving on to communities and coins with active development.
I guess they should thank you. But I don't understand, your new dev masteretarded is not trusted? Why people move? So weird.


It's easy to get a case of the "fuck its" after the shenanigans you have pulled in here.

If I had a smaller position, I would have left a while ago.

Right now, we know that mastertrader has agreed to try and save this coin.  But that's all we know.

Buy support will return when the communities confidence does.
1482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 27, 2015, 04:50:18 PM

skidog, that was a good decision. You will buy more when we reach 2-3k satoshi. At this moment you will catch falling knife, nothing else.

This is also information for others. Look at masteretarded, his coin, his IPO, IPO price, github commits, current volume and current price. This guy does not even know basic coin APIs. He is yet another random (like me) who came to bitcointalk half year ago with HEY SUPER UBER COIN IPO PAY MY BITCOINS MY PHP GOOD FRAMEWORK PHP NICE APPLE TABLET SCREENSHOT HELLO. He collected 30-40 BTC from naive investors whose investment is now worth 10% of price they paid. And no possibility to exit since MTR buy support is even lower than 8BIT without official dev.

And he offers us (US!) yet another IPO... geez. Payable with 8BIT (awesome)... and MTR. Did you know he has already told MTR community that 8BIT IPO will be payable with MTR so finally there will be a chance for a minimal MTR demand? Yeah!

If he is sure his development can change anything here why don't he put a 5 BTC (okay, 0.5 BTC!) wall at 20k satoshi? 8BIT price is extremely low, 88BIT is very rare coin with fixed inflation (not like MTR scam with % inflation) - the more people run staking nodes / masternodes the less profit others get - because supply is fixed.




No one wants to get dumped on...  like you said, it's a falling knife.  That includes Mastertrader.

I look forward to whatever happens to 8bit.  I wonder what purpose his team will give to the coin.
1483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 27, 2015, 04:46:22 PM
Come on guys be a little serious. Losing all our buy support. If I took off my buy support there wouldnt be much left....

We have no dev and no plan.  I'm sure people are just exasperated at this point...moving on to communities and coins with active development.

Dmitry...  bro learn to imbed!  
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1484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 27, 2015, 03:21:04 PM


Hey dbt1033, noone told you that your feedback is in your profile, not mine?
Anyway I made a feedback for you. I hope you enjoy it.



You're not allowed to make me laugh....

1485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 27, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Don't worry Dimitry, my friends have not bought a coins (at least I know nothing about it) because they've been waiting for my recommendation.

But you don't have any friends...  textbook schizophrenia

Noone here told masteretarded nor dbt to shut their dirty mouths and let me proceed so it's time to face the music.

It's also last time when I explain this issue on the big picture. You can ask detailed questions or raise ideas however general discussion, insults and drama are over.

We can continue drama show, but my role will change to bagholder so it will be pointless.


Because you are the ass hole, not us.  Looks like it's time for you to face the music.  Everyone thinks you're a joke.


I'll remove the negative trust, because it makes you look like shit.  But you have to apologize to Mastertrader and the community for being a clown, extortion, and not living up to your word.
1486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 27, 2015, 02:32:48 PM
OK, How did mastertrader scam us. I dont understand.

He didn't.  8-bit-party has some kind of personal vendetta against him.

It's been funny from the beginning.
1487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 11:46:30 PM



8-bit avatar for anyone who supports this coin. 
1488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 11:05:19 PM
So I have quit... interesting.


Just apologize for your behavior.  Apologize to Mastertrader777.  Apologize to the community.

Seems like you want to stay.  Admit you're off your meds.  

Be a man.

Hang tight guys, digging up 8-bitpartys Ashley Maddison account lulzzz
1489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 11:01:09 PM
So I have quit... interesting.


Through the transitive property, yes you quit.

If Mastertrader777 doesn't surrender his stash, you quit.

Mastertrader777 says no way.

Therefore you quit.
1490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 10:45:08 PM

Hahahahahaha!!! You've got a good sense of humor, I mean it!
1491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 09:31:34 PM
Will a fork and new client solve the problem?
If so, then there is the saying: Don't cry over spilled milk!
You have no leverage to force the coins back, sunk cost.

Suck it up and move on.

If a fork and new client does not solve the problem. Then what are we doing here?

Unlike scammers who ask for BTCs and scammers who steal 8BITs I have brought new investors here. That's why I need no funds from community. However, they are my (more or less close) friends and they want to be sure that both client and chain is safe. No serious investor will invest a single BTC without making sure first that either missing dev or some insiders will not make them catch falling knife. I have found a serious problem and started to resolve that to make my friends (and actually ALL OF US HERE) sure that it will not make a negative impact to their investment. As you can see by timestamps from my conversation with dbt the 8BIT price was not affected by it at all, so I neither me nor my friends have made any business use of this knowledge.

BTW Tinkles is just a yet another investor and 8BIT supporter, I did not know him before. He has been included to a screenshot by mistake.







If you had come to me and said, "Hey man, there is some strange activity on the network and I think your wallet may be involved.  Would you mind cooperating with me to sort things out?" Things would have gone in a different direction.  But its clear from the conversation you posted that you accused me from message one, and I had no idea what you were talking about.

But that's not your way.  You point fingers, assume the worst in people, spam other coins threads with big red letters, and extort the community.

You don't follow through.  You make false promises. 

I'm a really easy going guy and would have been more than happy to join you in your quest for justice.  I would even destroy any ill gotten gains or donate them to a development fund if that is what's right.

But you wanted me to be a villian.  You wanted me to somehow be a part of this elaborate story you convinced yourself was true.

Turns out, by the look of things, no one did anything wrong.  Even M8.

But maybe you are right.  Maybe I did receive 8bit I shouldn't have.  Maybe M8 did too.

Go ahead, tell me how much 8bit I have that I shouldn't.  I'm a man of my word.  I'll set it aside in other address to stake for development.  I'll destroy it.  Whatever the community wants.
1492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
To make a full transparency here.
My conversation with dbt1033, outbox




Who's this Tinkles fellow? Y'all just talking out is he a partner?

Oh make sure you post the inbox too.
1493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:37:29 PM
Just using some benzine to light this beautiful fire

I have good popcorn and am comfortable enjoying this show.

I poke here and their and I fill my evening with this today.

I just like to entertain myself this way and see all those stupid reactions
you people come  up with.

Never thought thumbs could be this big and getting sucked that hard! Well you learn everyday they say.
.

Lol, so your just trolling.

It's OK man, I'm enjoying this too.  Cheers
1494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:32:07 PM
It's 100% your adres with mcM on the end. look the right colom

But what's your point?  Is that a nasty address too?

1495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
It's 100% your adres with mcM on the end. look the right colom

Actually it's not.  Yeah I know where to look...

100% ?  Enlighten me.
1496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:25:15 PM
I didn't try to help?  I figured out who the addresses you accused me of owning belong to.  (Sorry M8 it's my fault he started harassing you too)
If calling me jackass and reminding me who pays me (LOL) is your help, then, well, hard to comment that.
I can use "search" function". I have asked you to send me your client.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028119.msg11190593#msg11190593

The address belongs to this guy.

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In the event that my wallet is "abusing" the network behind the scenes in a way that is not obvious to me, I am moving my wallet.dat to a new client.
Stop contradicting yourself!

So you have moved your wallet.dat to a new client. OH WAIT, WE HAVE NOT RELEASED NEW CLIENT YET, THAT'S WHAT'S THIS DRAMA IS ABOUT. Hello.
What client have you used before? What client have you moved to little cheater?



Yeah.  A new client.  A fresh install of the one everyone has.  That's about the extent of my tech skills.  Don't believe me?  Read every one of my posts over the last 2 years.
1497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:24:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Z825YXm.png

2nd adress is or was from dbt

My address has always been public.  I have about 12k 8bit total.

I used to have 10 masternodes and 1 staking node.  When I realized how low the stake weight was, I xfered my total stash to my staking node.  

That's not my address.  I think that was an exchange.
1498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:15:35 PM

Prove it.  You already admitted it was M8 that was somehow stealing my masternode payments from my staking wallet.
LOL. It was you who said that cheating addresses belong to M8. That's right, but I have never admitted he is stealing anything. Your wallet abuses network, not his. That's why I needed more time to find more information.




For those who still do not know what we are talking about:
- dbt1033 is a bagholder with a very big staking power
- from time to time his node stopped to accept masternode list and instead his node was creating PoS blocks with certain addresses only for few days
- that (not sure if all of them atm) addresses belong (or at least did in the past) to M8BWNNRFMNdak68c
- it's not a network issue (masternodes are verified against 112-input signature, network reachability is not checked)
- since I told dbt1033 about this activity, instead of being helpful (he claims he has not do it intentionally) with figuring out who is abusing our coin he became aggresive and reminded he gonna pay me (interesting, isnt it?)
- while I was pushing M8BWNNRFMNdak68c to reveal WTF (I HAVE NO PROOF THAT ANYONE IS DOING ANYTHING INTENTIONALLY, THAT'S WHY I TALK FIRST INSTEAD OF MAKING A DRAMA) before I release mn enforcement schedule (it requires hardfork, could would let him know till when he can abuse - like I said "attack" was not permanent - theft were enabled from time to time), dbt1033 and masteretarded were first to attack me here for no release

There's no conclusion to be published by me at this moment. There are question:
- how many coins were stolen?
- whose activity was intentional and whose was not?
- how to force thief to return coins to the community?
- why masteretarded offers new coin (swap, IPO, etc. what will take a long time - more time to steal coins) instead of enabling mn payment enforcement?





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You also admitted that I did not have the technical know how to be involved.
LOL again. You have admitted that. I don't know you and your skills. All I know is that M8 has technical skills. But it does explain what's going on so my efforts were to figure out that.






I didn't try to help?  I figured out who the addresses you accused me of owning belong to.  (Sorry M8 it's my fault he started harassing you too)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028119.msg11190593#msg11190593

The address belongs to this guy.


In the event that my wallet is "abusing" the network behind the scenes in a way that is not obvious to me, I am moving my wallet.dat to a new client.

Stop contradicting yourself!

1499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 08:02:08 PM
sorry was offline. it's getting really interesting here Smiley

1.) i have no idea what this 8bitparty vs MTR thing is. sounds like politics. too complicated. when there is a fork, i will run both / all three clients and mine in parallel ( this has no additonal costs like POW coins would have.. ). The exchanges then will make the decision which is the "right" network.

2.) i think 8bitparty i working intensively on the network ( see point 3 ). so i would trust him!

3.) The network abuse: i still don't quite get what the problem is.. one node found 55 blocks on 8-22. can you really say that this is "too much"?.. isn't there just luck involved?

but i can tell you one thing: i am just running the original client. here are my adresses:
8QdP5HuCXM8wWqe2zY5SFztoeCauH4dBdt
8SBD8vMDEDJ6HJrk1CNtoDF5RpWKYW1sCr
8bcqVTpWngAhwXrZvLVeakBN6ZEsdRsdDv
the first two adresses are masternodes, the third is staking.

anyways.. i will now publish all the factors which could give me an advantage.. so you could imitate them that we are on the same level:
- fast server: ssd / intel 8-core / datacenter with 1 gbit connection / linux with compiled binary
- the client has >100 connections ( so maybe this increases the probability to get chosen as the correct masternode? )
- the masternodes are running since the beginning of 8bit ( so they are very "prominent"? )
- i run with "disablesafemode"
- i do many small transactions: so staking can use inputs with just 1 coin
- i own about 1000-2000 coins

4.) so what does this "no enforcement" thing mean.. one could modify his client and then pay nothing to masternodes? is here anybody besides to 8bitparty capable of doing this?

And considering my wallet is built on transactions of 50-100 8bit plus the fact that I stake 100's of blocks a day, there is a good chance my wallet paid a good bit of those masternode rewards.
1500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: August 26, 2015, 07:29:09 PM
I see your, masteretarded and Dmitry attacks.

skidog and Orestes are confused what I absolutely understand and I am really sad that good guys (not only them) are victims of this situation.

I have also have two PM conversations regarding this, one aggressive and one calm & reasonable.

I guess you should call some haters here to show your power my little thief.

To clarify: dbt1033 has been stealing masternode owners funds, not my funds - so actually he is not my personal little thief.




Prove it.  You already admitted it was M8 that was somehow stealing my masternode payments from my staking wallet.

You also admitted that I did not have the technical know how to be involved.

So prove it.  Contradict yourself yet again.
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