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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: (Review/Guide) BW.com BW-L21, 550 Mh/s, 950W Litecoin (scrypt) ASIC miner on: April 20, 2018, 05:42:49 AM
BITMAIN killed this little company ..  Grin


Definitely not dead, I’ll have something quite interesting in a few weeks Cheesy
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 17, 2018, 07:31:02 PM
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Nice looking setup. Personally, I would only run 5 off that hub so you can run them full speed. If you only have on one hub then you could plug you Pi and extra fans into the hub too because they don't need that much power.  Have you tried to get bfgminer to run at startup? I am new to pi and Linux in general and have not been able to get it to work.

Nah I dont really need to been using pi's for years and they seldom crash, I use ssh and tmux to control it. that theres my trusty old pi2 with a broken hdmi out  Grin

I'm sure you know what ssh is tmux may be a mystery to you it allows you to run a program through ssh and it'll keep running even after you disconnect. its similair to screen but a bit more advanced/configurable

Yes, I tried screen but it was not getting me anywhere. Besides I just want it to autostart every time the pi boots up.

make sure screen is installed (sudo apt install screen)

create a file in your home directory with nano like this:

Code:
nano startup.sh

inside this file put something like this

Code:
cd /home/YOUR_PI_ACCOUNT_NAME/YOUR_BFGMINER_FOLDER_NAME
screen -dmS miner bash -c './start_moonlander.sh; exec bash'

then turn startup script to executible

Code:
sudo chmod +x startup.sh

and add this to crontab

Code:
sudo crontab -e

go down after all the ## and add this line

Code:
@reboot /home/YOUR_PI_ACCOUNT_NAME/startup.sh

then

Code:
sudo reboot

once rebooted just do

Code:
sudo screen -dr

and you should see bfgminer running. Press control then A then D at the same time to exit screen without terminating process.

That should do it  Wink
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Intel developing new dedicated GPUs !!! on: April 12, 2018, 03:09:04 PM
Hmmm.  Lots of confusing signals here.  For starters Intel already makes GPU's, just not high end ones.  But pretty much 90% (or maybe even more) of the mobo integrated GPU's are Intel.  The exception, AMD CPU boards with AMD integrated GPU's are arguably even worse.  I bought an AMD CPU\GPU integrated PC for work and even though the GPU model was decent as a stand-alone (it's a few years old now but back when I got it, the stand-alone card was decent), in the integrated version that GPU sucks really bad.  I regretted it immediately.

Also, the recent Intel\AMD partnership with the integrated AMD GPU has been regarded everywhere as a huge success, even this article talks about it in very positive terms.  Why would Intel go in the opposite direction after that?

Unless your talking about AMDs APU's from years ago, AMDs current APUs they just released with vega cores blows anything Intel has out of the water.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer L3+ OVERCLOCKED !!! HOT !!! full review with LOTs of pics on: April 12, 2018, 02:52:38 PM
Be aware there a two different Hashboards actually.

https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002072833-L3-Different-Version-Comparison

Hashboard L3+ (S) is the old PCB and could handle Overclocking up to 600 MHs
Hashboard L3+ (N) is the new PCB and could and is very poor in Terms of Overclocking (around 540 Mhs only)

So be aware when overclocking newer L3+ they have changed the Boards somewhere in early 2018.

Wow, bastards took out nice polymer caps for aluminum ones. That is saving them like 25 bucks per board.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: April 12, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
It seems they have removed the L3+ from the website. No more on sale.

It was there earlier today, then sold-out status. But wait, it's back, USD485 ea now.

And they sent me like a zillion $100 coupons lol.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Gateless Gate Sharp 1.3.2: Now with memory timing mods and CryptoNight-Heavy! on: April 12, 2018, 02:39:08 PM
Awesome, awesome.  This is going to be awesome.  I do have a couple of questions though.  Memory timings section - how are they applied ?  If you could also add a cancel button for the optimize section that would be good also Smiley  I still havent explored everything yet, but without tweaking speeds are very good.

The secrets of the black magic are all in the repository. Smiley You can restore previous settings on the Misc. tab page under "User Settings."

Hes accessing the PCIE registers directly, which exposes nice things like timings and a bunch of other cool goodies Wink Have to say its pretty impressive, my head almost exploded last time I was looking at the pcie memory space on the linux kernel  Shocked
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Dragonmint B29 Decred Miner on: April 11, 2018, 10:33:19 PM
Really, I even dont realize that Decred was already mined by Asic miner. I heard that LBC (LBRY Credits) is going to be mined by Asic miner (or even somebody already mined it with asic miners), then I stopped dual mine ETH + LBC, and it's funny that I have just had checks, some of my rigs still were configured to dual mine ETH + DCR (LBC, and Sia).

I'm getting about 3.5 coins a day per machine

Although with the low pool hash rate...I don't know exactly Sad

Gaaaaaah 3.5 decred a day? thats freaking awesome. how much did you pay for each machine? how loud/hot are they? i really want one now

They're expensive  Lips sealed

$10,000/e - but I should ROI in 3 or 4 months max

Good luck on that when all the miners are shipped out Wink
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: April 11, 2018, 10:15:29 PM
It continues to be humorous that people keep saying you can update the ASIC's.  That is NOT how an ASIC works.  Others have stated this as well.  You cannot update an ASIC. If is not programmable.  

So the X3's basically are bricked before they even ship.  Baikal is the only one that has a shot at being able to reflash their miners for the new algo as they use programmable chips.  

I don't understand why Bitmain has not dropped the price or dropped the miner unless they plan their own fork of Monero or Electroneum in the hope of keeping this going....  Effectively anyone who bought these has the short end of the stick.  No amount of "coupons" is going to make this right.  They better be offering free miners to those that bought these.

To make ASICs work on a modified algorithm you'll have to go to transistor level (different number/arrangement of logical gates).  

Code example
Code:
if (x or y)
changes to
Code:
if (x and y)

then that'll lead to change in ASIC at gate level.

See the number and arrangement for the gates for OR and AND condition,


Experts please correct if I misunderstood.


Simply put yes. Except that these transistors are physically "etched" into the silicon. These logic blocks are not "movable" once the silicon is made thats it.

FPGAs on the other hand have millions of these gates you show in that figure, but the connections between them can be physically changed. This is why FPGAs are kind of like GPUs, and can approach ASIC level performance because you can physically change the logic at the hardware level.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 11, 2018, 10:03:09 PM
Hmm let it go all night. Looks like it worked just doesn't smash out the accepted shares as fast as on the litecoinpool. Guess I expected it to be faster. And it successfully mined some sia, doge and dgb. Didn't expect it to switch coins but that's fine too I guess.

The rate accepted shares has nothing to do with how "fast" its mining. Its simply the difficulty the pool has set the shares too. Higher diff, less accepted shares, which is what pools want since their servers would be overloaded if everyone mined low diff shares. Higher shares have more "value" so you mine more litecoin.

Most pools use vardiff, so accepted shares are averaged to around 1 share per minute, regardless of wether you mining with a Moonlander or an L3+.

yeah but some pools like zpool have the verdiff set so high it times out and then you are actually NOT mining..



Yea, in those cases just shoot an email to the pool and ask for a low diff port for USB Asics. I know miningpoolhub already lowered the diff for us, and I'm sure other pools would too if enough requests are sent.

What diff would you recommend setting at the highest point for the stick?

Most pools wont set diff anything lower than 4k-8k these days, if you can convince them to set it to at least 512 or 1024 thats enough for a moonlander to send a share every minute or so.
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 11, 2018, 10:00:10 PM
This will help beginners using linux get started building, and using jstefanop's miner setup.
I spoke to him and luke jr about this before writing and sharing it, enjoy
https://github.com/diveyez/rpi_moonlander
This will grab all dependencies for the build and its features past only mining with moonlanders, since they are starter devices Wink
You need to follow the instructions given for uart to usb setup.

chmod +X build then ./build

Cool, thanks for sharing. FYI you don't need to install the VCP UART drivers for pi's, linux kernel already has it pre-installed.
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: April 10, 2018, 05:39:25 PM
Has anyone has anyone ever tried to pair one with an Antrouter R1-LTC to in effect create a "wireless" Antminer L3+?

Thats a waste of money...all bitmain controllers are just beaglebones...these have USB outputs. Connect a wifi dongle and configure the linux system for wifi and boom, you got a wireless miner.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 09, 2018, 11:36:09 PM
Hmm let it go all night. Looks like it worked just doesn't smash out the accepted shares as fast as on the litecoinpool. Guess I expected it to be faster. And it successfully mined some sia, doge and dgb. Didn't expect it to switch coins but that's fine too I guess.

The rate accepted shares has nothing to do with how "fast" its mining. Its simply the difficulty the pool has set the shares too. Higher diff, less accepted shares, which is what pools want since their servers would be overloaded if everyone mined low diff shares. Higher shares have more "value" so you mine more litecoin.

Most pools use vardiff, so accepted shares are averaged to around 1 share per minute, regardless of wether you mining with a Moonlander or an L3+.

yeah but some pools like zpool have the verdiff set so high it times out and then you are actually NOT mining..



Yea, in those cases just shoot an email to the pool and ask for a low diff port for USB Asics. I know miningpoolhub already lowered the diff for us, and I'm sure other pools would too if enough requests are sent.
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 09, 2018, 06:40:29 PM
Hmm let it go all night. Looks like it worked just doesn't smash out the accepted shares as fast as on the litecoinpool. Guess I expected it to be faster. And it successfully mined some sia, doge and dgb. Didn't expect it to switch coins but that's fine too I guess.

The rate accepted shares has nothing to do with how "fast" its mining. Its simply the difficulty the pool has set the shares too. Higher diff, less accepted shares, which is what pools want since their servers would be overloaded if everyone mined low diff shares. Higher shares have more "value" so you mine more litecoin.

Most pools use vardiff, so accepted shares are averaged to around 1 share per minute, regardless of wether you mining with a Moonlander or an L3+.
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BITMAIN was mining ETH in their farms ! BITMAIN Is killing GPU miners on: April 06, 2018, 11:30:48 PM
Gpu mining cannot be killed that easily. Bitmain maybe mining Ethereum but for the gpu miners there are a lot of other coins which are based on Ethereum like Pirl, Music and a few others. Their difficulty is relatively low to mine and I am happily mining Musicoin because my 3GB Gpus cannot write the dag epoch 179 which is the actual one.

As for bitmain first thing to do if you want to fight them is to stop buying their products, but this will never happen since they produce the best miners for the moment.

As for bitmain first thing to do if you want to fight them is to stop buying their products

This +1

Lol good luck with that...see the main problem with bitmain is not bitmain itself, its that everyone else in crypto is not here for the tech and what it means for society, but are just as greedy if not more than bitmain.

You tell me if you buy their ASICs or not when the one guy next you is making 100 bucks a day because he did.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: WA state is getting tougher on cryptomining, shuts down some miners on: April 06, 2018, 05:18:11 PM
Yeah, nothing to stoke up the neophobic populace like the accusing people doing something new of being dangers to the community. All those data centers, it's ok for them to use electricity, because "cloud computing" sounds good. Hopefully efficiency will improve, but until then maybe we should just rebrand.  Undecided

You read the article? Sounds to me like they are shutting down a bunch of residential customers that think its fine to load an apartment or makeshift shed full of miners and think they can tap 200kw from a residential grid. I warned of this before, but no one took it seriously. A couple rigs in your house is fine an no one will bother you, but if your going to try and stick a couple dozen in a residential area and think no one will notice think again.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 05, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
With current difficulty, this Bitmain Garbage can only mine for a round $4 a day. Imagine all the batches are come a live and then difficulty sky rocketed way higher.
Both this ASIC miner and GPU have to say good bye to ETH.
Btw, are you sure that this is the best Bitmain can do? I somehow have intuition that they have more powerful hashing board to mine ETH under their wrap still. Way more powerful that this garbage.

This garbage has officially killed ETH gpu mining for now. Until ETh dev comes up with something or AMD or Nvidia develops a new gpu specifically designed for mining.
This garbage is still very low cost and very scalable. Good for mining farms. So it will increase difficulty on all the coins as big gpu farms will switch coins.

This wont kill eth mining anytime soon. These are not A3's/D3's etc. Anyone worried about these has no sense of the magnitude of Ethereum's current hashrate.

Its currently at 270 TERAHASHES. Thats NINE MILLION 570's/580's

In order to double the hashrate, bitmain would have to make and sell 1.5 MILLION E3's. At most these batches have 10-20 thousand units, which wont even make a dent in the hashrate. To put things in perspective, Litecoin's entire hashrate is made up of a couple hundred thousand L3+'s and some of that hashrate is shared by innosilicon and BW.

The only reason A3's and D3's killed GPU mining is because they were orders of magnitude faster and more efficient than the GPUs they replaced. E3's are exactly the same speed and efficiency as GPUs, they only advantage they have is that they cost less than current GPUs, and Bitmain does not have to be at the mercy of getting GPU packages from AMD/NVIDIA( and thats about the only advantage an ethereum ASIC can have, maybe slightly higher effenciey if they go full custom cores which they wont since eth will go POS before then).

Lets all calm down Cheesy
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 05, 2018, 09:36:42 PM
there is something wrong with the driver on these.. its been stated before and it has not been addressed or mentioned as a bug..

if you mine with these, and put another pool as a failover.. if that failover pool gets a new block before your main pool does, the whole thing stops mining and times out..

so a little bit of a log to show what happens..

Stratum from pool 1 detected new block
Rejected 005e272e MLD 0  pool 0 Diff 10m/7m (job not found)

after this mining stops completly until you restart the miner.


Just talked with Luke, figured out whats going on here. bfgminer is designed to mine to a single blockchain by default, so if you specific failoverpools, its assuming all failoverpools are mining to the same blockchain, and using those pools for blockchain updates (which would normally be a good thing since if a block update comes from one pool faster, you'll switch work faster and avoid stale shares).

In this case if your failovers are pools which are mining different coins/blockchains then you need to specify bfgminer to not track blockchain messages from other failover pools with "--pool-goal" option.

For example:

bfgminer -o http://pool1:port -u pool1username -p pool1password --pool-goal default -o http://pool2:port -u pool2usernmae -p pool2password --pool-goal freicoin


You can name pool goal whatever you like, as long as they are different for each failover pool that does not mine to the same blockchain. So you could have two litecoin pools, in which case you can put "--pool-goal litecoin" after each pool config, and have a third pool that tracks some random coin which you should put "--pool-goal randomecoin" after the pool config.
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 05, 2018, 05:30:39 PM
Hi there J,
So is there any way to return one of my MLD2's for repair? The raised black thing next to the heatsink labeled "L1" on the circuit board just under the "der" of Moonlander on the board.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks Huh Huh Embarrassed Embarrassed

And the heatsink is damaged....just noticed that upon closer inspection and it appears that my dog may have gotten to it, which answers a few questions for me.  If at all possible to fix please let me know...and if it is even worth it...

Can you post a pic of what your talking about?
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: April 05, 2018, 02:50:53 PM
there is something wrong with the driver on these.. its been stated before and it has not been addressed or mentioned as a bug..

if you mine with these, and put another pool as a failover.. if that failover pool gets a new block before your main pool does, the whole thing stops mining and times out..

so a little bit of a log to show what happens..

Stratum from pool 1 detected new block
Rejected 005e272e MLD 0  pool 0 Diff 10m/7m (job not found)

after this mining stops completly until you restart the miner.

here is the whole log. as you can see it was mining just fine, then it stops when pool 1 finds a block
this means you cant set a failover pool.. Sad

Code:
snip


here is another after i restarted.. same thing
Code:
snip



Unless this is a pool issue, this would be a bug in bfgminer stratum code. I only code the "driver" for the moonlander, so unfortunately anything outside that would be a bfgminer issue that you should filea issue on Luke-jr's git (I would post this in his bfgminer thread as well). Ill bring it up to him and take a look at it and see if we can find an issue as well.

In the meantime add "-D" option to the command line, and pastebin a log with the issue with the debug output enabled.  


EDIT: Also try adding --failover-only option when using failover pools, and see if that resolves the issue.
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Any word on amd vega hash rates? on: April 04, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
My Vega 56 does 47 MH/s on eth...thats a little over 50 bucks a month. Even at 2200 on cryptonight it does not come close to that, so not sure why people would mine that over eth.

Two 570's still does more in eth and costs less than a single vega. The only argument for Vega at this point is its slightly better Perf/watt, since even two rigs of 570s will cost less and produce more than a rig of vegas.
Holy hell how?! Mine does like 38...

Bunch of BIOS mods and some good tuning Cheesy
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