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1421  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 04, 2017, 06:36:52 PM
I ordered 9 of these last night when the website said there were still 80 in stock, but my receipt says backordered  Undecided

Hopefully everyone else's says the same thing?  When would the backordered ones ship?

Any backordered units that were sold before the pre-order ended today will be shipped with the pre-order shipments.
1422  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 04, 2017, 05:47:51 PM
Pre-order is officially closed! A BIG THANKS to everyone for making this an awesome success! I had to raise my batch size multiple times to keep up with demand!

Im still collecting payments for everyone that PMed me, so as long as you PMed me before today I should be able to fill all those orders...im replying to all PMs so keep an eye out, if I don't hear back from you after I send a PM for payment details I'm going down to the next person.

Also keep in mind that my distributors ordered more units than allowed for pre-order, so once these start shipping they will have stock again sometime in November (after all the pre-orders are shipped out first). So you still have a chance to pick one up.
1423  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 04, 2017, 02:48:05 AM
What is the minimum order? Is it 10pcs?

You can place an order with any of the distributors for one if thats what you want. Im handling orders for more than 10 outside the regions covered by them.


If i take 15 or 20 you will be the one who will handle my order? how much will cost the shipping from Philippines with this amount of order?

International shipments will be done with USPS Priority International, which has tracking and delivery confirmation but its much cheaper than UPS/DHL etc. This will cost in the 30-50 range depending on how many you order.
1424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 04, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
USB 3.0 spec is for a max of 900 ma (0.9 amps) of 5V supply - there are variant "charging" USB 3 ports that are designed for higher though, but not all motherboards have them and not all that DO have them have all of the ports as "charging" capable.

 Powered hubs would be a better option.


 On a separate subject, is there any chance of a "pod" or "blade" version of this, along the lines of the old Gridseed GC3344 based units?



I have to ship out all these sticks you guys ordered first Wink Definitely stay tuned though...this pre-order was  massive success and wont be stopping here Smiley
1425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 04, 2017, 02:41:45 AM

Your second link does not work (page not found) but the OP is shipping the devices with a USB 2.0 connector so even if your hub is 3.0, the miners will not have the additional pins to the USB 3.0-specific protocol. But the 3.0 only if you want future proofing but I would recommend getting the USB 2.0.

Actually you WANT a 3.0 hub, since these hubs are usually rated for 1+ Amps. Even though the miner does not use 3.0 data speeds, it does pull alot of power for USB obviously, so a 2.0 hub might not provide enough power.

Question 1
Thank you for the clarification, I deleted my message to avoid confusion but can you please clarify/recommend what to use to get the maximym power?

From what I gathered in the OP @ 1.5W per MH/s:

Hashing SpeedPower Amps
2 MH/s2 x 1.5 W = 3 W 3 W / 5V = 0.6 A
3 MH/s3 x 1.5 W = 4.5 W 4.5 W / 5V = 0.9 A
5 MH/s5 x 1.5 W = 7.5 W 7.5 W / 5V = 1.5 A
6 MH/s6 x 1.5 W = 9 W 9 W / 5V = 1.8 A

It seems that a normal USB 3.0 with 900 mA can only drive the unit at 3 MH/s steady state, anything above that will need a powered USB hub as "Y" cables don't work in USBs.

The hub in the amazon link was 7 ports 60 W = 8.5 W per port so it can drive the unit up to theoretical speed 8.5 / 1.5 = 5.7 MHs

Is this correct?


Question 2
In your demo screen the title bar states ... "ethminer" can these sticks be used for anything other than scrypt?


The 1.5w/MH figure does not scale. For example at about 3MH its 1.3w/MH, but at 5 MH it approaches 2w/MH. The 6MH is also not sustainable long term...that was me just showing how far the hardware can be pushed.


Ethminer is just the hostname of one of my dev systems (that also happens to mine ethereum with its GPU). Has nothing to do with this stick and it can only mine scrypt coins.
1426  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 04, 2017, 02:16:41 AM
What is the minimum order? Is it 10pcs?

You can place an order with any of the distributors for one if thats what you want. Im handling orders for more than 10 outside the regions covered by them.
1427  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 03, 2017, 06:20:57 PM
For Malaysian Miners... we can join together for group buy... please PM me

Seems like there is alot of interest from the region, I recommend you guys get together and do a group buy.


FYI answering all PMs today and collecting payments.
1428  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 02, 2017, 05:13:07 PM
For everyone that sent a PM, I am a but behind on those, but as long as you sent me a PM with the number of units I will honor the order amount in the order I receive the PMs. I can't guarantee I can fill all of them so shot me a PM ASAP. Ill start collecting payments for those tomorrow, so please have either BTC, LTC, or ETH ready.

Reminder this is ONLY for 50+ units, or  10+ units if your in the Asia/Australia/South America regions. For smaller orders please use my distributors listed in main post. They have all upped their pre-order stock for a second time, but this will be the LAST stock update for the pre-order. I have to close out the batch soon and start ordering parts.
1429  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 02, 2017, 03:42:43 PM
Ended up ordering from asic puppy in USA because holycoin doesn't take credit cards. If you order qty 4 from asic puppy you can select USPS first class which is less than $4.

This is kind of why I asked if priority will be given to small orders first. Ten seems like a reasonable cut off. If you really want as many people to use this without inflated retail cost then low quantity ordered would achieve that.

This is a well known problem with concert tickets and scalpers

Thank you. You saved me from a pissed off at litecoin rant. I'm new to mining (kind of) and wrote a long post about how it was a catch 22 that holybitcoin doesn't accept payment in debit cards, paypal, etc but only in cryptocurrency but the purpose of this is to get more people into cryptocurrency so how am I supposed to have some if i've never done it?

And then I went on about all the excruciating hurdles I went through to get a wallet, mine and try to buy litecoin. You would of laughed probably at my bad luck and the lack of regulation in cryptocurrency.

And then I hit post in confidence that I was right and it was informative and at the same time concerning and comical and then the website is like "warning there have been X replies since you started typing this. Maybe you should read them" and I read you say "I tried the other guy" so I decided "nevermind" and erased my post.

I'm now the lucky owner of two preorders via PayPal.

I'm a good customer. I don't know why a vendor would be scared of PayPal. I rarely return things. If I buy something cheap I know I'm taking a chance it will fail, I'm not going to ask for a refund, my fault. If the thing is faulty I ask for another one and return it and explain what I tried honestly.
Example:
I bought this thing like a month ago to clean my bike
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F2Y0F94/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_pIIQzbK2VK8AC
and it came with no instructions and I keep trying to unscrew the clear plastic thing off to put the soap in it and screw it back on. Every couple of days I have another go at it trying, for like more than a month. Each time I'm thinking, am I really that weak? Did I get a bad one? But I'm patient, I just let it set in my room. Finally I decide after last try, this thing aint coming off, I'm not a p***y there must be some other reason I can't get access to this soap cannister. I turn it around and start playing with the dial and pull up on it. THE F'N DIAL COMES Off AND THAT'S WHERE YOU POUR THE SOAP IN! THAT'S TOTALLY UNINTUITIVE! You don't pour gasoline down your keyhole in your car, you don't open the buttons on your dishwasher and pour soap inside, the user interface is almost never the same place you pour the active chemical ingredient. But I'm not going to return it. I might mention it in a review. I might deduct a star for it but not if it performs well.

The main issue with PayPal payments for this pre-order is that PayPal requires shipping within 21 days. I can't fault my distributors for not wanting to risk PayPal funds this way, since they are paying me upfront before i start production.

And sadly even though you might be an honest customer, there are scammers everywhere in crypto, so doing large pre-orders like the we have to be a bit cautious. Either way I'm glad you picked up some, and welcome to the crypto family. New people like you in crypto is exactly why I built this miner for  Smiley
1430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 02, 2017, 03:32:32 PM
Do we know the outer dimensions yet? length, width, circumference, outer diameter? I need to develop some sort of rack to hold a few in place for airflow while using extended cables for the hub.


Demensions are very similar to original moonlander

Width: 25mm, Length: 58mm, Hight with heatsink will be about 20-30mm (still finalizing heatsink design for these). Components on other side of PCB stick out another 5mm or so.
1431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 02, 2017, 03:30:46 PM

Your second link does not work (page not found) but the OP is shipping the devices with a USB 2.0 connector so even if your hub is 3.0, the miners will not have the additional pins to the USB 3.0-specific protocol. But the 3.0 only if you want future proofing but I would recommend getting the USB 2.0.

Actually you WANT a 3.0 hub, since these hubs are usually rated for 1+ Amps. Even though the miner does not use 3.0 data speeds, it does pull alot of power for USB obviously, so a 2.0 hub might not provide enough power.
1432  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 02, 2017, 01:03:26 AM
Ended up ordering from asic puppy in USA because holycoin doesn't take credit cards. If you order qty 4 from asic puppy you can select USPS first class which is less than $4.

This is kind of why I asked if priority will be given to small orders first. Ten seems like a reasonable cut off. If you really want as many people to use this without inflated retail cost then low quantity ordered would achieve that.

This is a well known problem with concert tickets and scalpers

Yea the issue is fixed now, if upped the allotment for all the distributors and they are limiting orders to under 10, so everyone that wants one at pre-order price has a chance to get one. I doubt stock will last past the weekend though.
1433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 01, 2017, 05:05:59 PM
bitshopper is back online and can take more orders.
1434  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 01, 2017, 04:59:33 PM
Bitshopper is back online with a 10 order limit. Sorry about that guys some re-sellers wiped out his stock shortly after link went live. Everyone should have a chance to grab one in the next  hour or so that wants one.

NA resellers are still good and can take a few more orders.
1435  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 01, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
From asia. Want to buy 10 of them.. please pm

For ASIA/Australia orders, please PM me directly
1436  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 01, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
It was on stock on bitshopper.de  but while I was complete my name and address it became out of stock! Is this true or something wrong with the website?

Yeah what a mess, tried to get some miners, website did go down several times, then i hit the order button -> out of stock. What is this, seriously?

One second guys working with bitshopper will update in a second. Apparently initial stock is already sold out.

Is there any chance you will sent him more stock?

Yes increasing batch size stay tuned.
1437  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PRE-ORDER] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: September 01, 2017, 04:22:11 PM
It was on stock on bitshopper.de  but while I was complete my name and address it became out of stock! Is this true or something wrong with the website?

Yeah what a mess, tried to get some miners, website did go down several times, then i hit the order button -> out of stock. What is this, seriously?

One second guys working with bitshopper will update in a second. Apparently initial stock is already sold out.
1438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 01, 2017, 04:03:07 PM
Pre-order links are up and Live!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141261.msg21415891#msg21415891
1439  Economy / Computer hardware / [Batch 4 Pre-Order!] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Order Thread on: September 01, 2017, 04:01:51 PM
THIS IS THE ORDER THREAD: Keep this thread on topic!
All instructions/support related questions go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420357.0
All other questions, general info about the sticks are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
____________________________________

UPDATE 5/08/19

Decided to make one more Moonlander 2 batch focused on brining the price as low as possible.

Batch 4 is now live for pre-order shipping end of May for only $39 each!

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/moonlander-2-usb-stick-asic-miner-for-scrypt-algorithm-cryptocurrencies


UPDATE 5/20/18

Batch 3 Stock is now shipping! Updated Distributor Pricing.

You can now purchase directly from my site as well for anyone not in my distributor regions, with low cost international first class shipping.

http://shop.futurebit.io

UPDATE 2/08/18

Happy to announce that most Batch 2 Pre-orders have now been shipped out, and all worldwide distributors finally have stock! You can now buy a Moonlander 2 from any of my distributors for nearly same day shipping!

UPDATE 1/16/18

Batch 2 units are currently almost finished production, and pre-order units are now being shipped to Distributors. You guys that placed early pre-orders should start seeing your units being shipped next week!

Batch 2 in stock units should start showing up on Distributors websites by the end of the month for everyone that missed the pre-order.

UPDATE 12/26/17

Batch 2 pre-order is now sold out! Production for Batch 2 is still on schedule and deliveries will be beginning end of January and into February. If you missed batch 2 pre-order, Batch 2 in stock units will be available end of the month.

UPDATE 12/6/17

Batch 2 Pre-order will start December 6th at 12 PM EST. This batch is larger and more distributors have been added so anyone that didn't have a chance to pick up a pre-order last batch should be fine this time around.

bittawm has also been added as an Australian and New Zealand Distributor, and will be participating in the Batch 2 Pre-order. He has excellent seller reputation in that region, and has setup his site for the pre-order below (ill post his link before sales go live tomorrow, don't mind his "basic" site he threw this together quick to be able to process the pre-orders quickly).

https://bittawmart.com

===========================


Welcome to the Official Moonlander 2 Sales Thread: Sales for Batch 2 Pre-orders are now complete and shipped out, and all distributors are stocked!

There will most likely be no further Pre-order Batches, as I have finally ramped up my production to meet demand. Distributors might go in/out of stock, but there should be general availability going forward.

Original Announcement thread and info for the stick is all here, please read it before asking questions here!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.msg21230912#msg21230912

Keep in mind that with every moonlander you buy, 10-20% of my personal profits will go directly to the Litecoin Foundation, to further drive this awesome growth we have had with Litecoin this year(keep an eye out for a Moonlander tweet by Charlie today)!

Retail pricing is a follows(distributors set their own prices based on demand with guidelines from me):

For North America
Holybitcoin.com and Asicpuppy.com: 69 USD + shipping
HolyBitcoin Order Link: http://holybitcoin.com/product/futurebit-moonlander-2-batch-2 use coupon code 2TheMoon
ASICPuppy Order Link: https://asicpuppy.com/magentoPuppy/index.php/fbmoonlander.html

Europe and surrounding countries
Bitshopper.de: 79 EUR + shipping
Order Link: https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/scrypt-miner/usb-miner-scrypt/moonlander2/

EU pricing covers all import and sales taxes, and certifications required to sell electronics in EU.

Asia
klintay/Eyeboot: 79 USD + shipping
Order Link: https://www.eyeboot.com/futurebit-moonlander2-litecoin-miner.html

South Africa

Bitmart: 1,300.00 Rand
https://www.bitmart.co.za/product/moonlander-2-usb-scrypt-miner/

Australia/New Zealand
bittawm: 55 USD + shipping
Order Link: https://bittawmart.com/products/futurebit-moonlander-2-usb-scrypt-miner-3-5-mhs

Rest of World

I will handle most of these sales: 59 USD + shipping, now available through shop.futurebit.io ! Keep in mind my network of distributors covers almost all continents, so you are probably better off ordering from the closest distributor to your country/area.

I have enough stock to handle a couple hundred additional sales, but I cant ship 1 or 2 to individuals internationally...It does not make sense shipping wise (will cost over 20 USD in just shipping for one unit). I suggest people looking for 1 or two sticks to form group buys by trusted members in your respective region subforums, and have the group buy leader contact me with final numbers. The trust of the group buyer is entirely up to you guys.

Pre-order pricing will only last for the initial units sold, and cant guarantee price will last once pre-order is over.

DO NOT contact me for sales in the NA/EUR regions covered by distributors unless you want 50+ units. They have put in alot of work and cash upfront to make this work smoothly for everyone, and I wont be selling at lower price directly.




===========================

Archived Batch 1 News

UPDATE 12/1/17

As of today, all pre-orders have been shipped out!

Thanks to everyone that participated in the pre-order and made this an awesome success! Special shout out to all my amazing distributors that were able to ship out hundreds of orders within just a few days (even with thanksgiving holiday weekend!).

Holybitcoin, Asicpuppy, and bitshopper.de have in stock units listed (or will soon) for people that want to pick up Batch 1 units that are in stock (price is higher than pre-order though).

Im organizing Batch 2 as well and will have an announcement on that soon.

UPDATE 10/27/17

Main ASIC order has been delivered, and ramp up in production is scheduled to start next week. Pre-order units will start shipping next week/second week of nov.

For people asking: Distributors will have in stock units once they ship out all the pre-orders, I have produced more than pre-order units so you will still be able to buy batch 1 if you missed the pre-order. Keep in mind these units will most likely sell for more than the pre-order prices since they will ship immediately.

UPDATE 10/12/17

I have added two additional distributors in Africa/Asia regions...they both currently have limited stock for pre-order

klintay from eyeboot serving the Asia region: https://www.eyeboot.com/futurebit-moonlander2-litecoin-miner.html
Bitmart serving the South Africa and surrounding countries: https://www.bitmart.co.za/product/moonlander-2-5mhs-usb-scrypt-miner/

UPDATE 9/4/17

First batch is sold out and can no longer take additional orders. Thanks again to everyone that participated...I hope thousands of new people get to experience mining and crypto with these!

Going forward keep an eye on the main discussion thread linked below. I will be posting dev, production, and shipment updates there.
1440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 01, 2017, 03:57:11 PM
Pre-Order starts in in a few minutes guys...keep an eye here and marketplace for direct links.

Good luck!
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