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1321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 26, 2017, 07:13:41 AM
What temp should the fans come on? So far I havent seen it spin up yet.

Yes fan should start as soon as you plug in. DONT run these if the fan is not running. Make sure you plugged in cable correct and it’s plugged in all the way into the port.
1322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: November 26, 2017, 07:09:08 AM
These are working great so far!



Nice! How many do you have on that hub?? Also keep an eye on temps with that many close together.
1323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 26, 2017, 01:20:46 AM
This is normal, even on my test setup I have to restart them once in a while if your running multiple sticks. Not much you can do about it unless your hubs are really good. Have you turned down your voltage from stock setting since your running 600 MHz it looks like? Also try raising your memory voltage a bit and see if that helps with stability.

Im working on driver update that will auto-restart them once it detects it has stopped hashing. bfgminer is supposed to do this already, but its sick/dead/restart code is buggy.
1324  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [SOLD OUT!] FutureBit Moonlander 2 Official Pre-order Thread on: November 25, 2017, 07:58:26 PM
I'm not trying to rush you, I'm not trying to make this negative. I just want you to keep in communication and not make so many threads, a separate support thread is totally OK and good and thanks but too many threads is anti customer as every time you make a new thread the next customer will be asking huh?

There are only three threads up, one for sales/ordering (this one), the general announcement thread, and support thread.

Things would get chaotic if people had to keep up with a single thread for all of this. The announcement thread alone is 25 pages long.
1325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 25, 2017, 07:43:40 AM
So I got two of these in the mail today, plugged them into usb 3 ports right off my mobo and installed the driver and bfgminer launched it and it mined for a few hours. I went back and tried to up the clock from 600 to 625 and since then have had nothing but trouble. I did not touch the voltage and even lowering the clock back as low as 480 they still won't hash for more than a few minutes. I considered they may not be getting enough power from the ports, but then it doesn't make sense why they ran for a few hours on initial install. I've tried removing and reinstalling the driver and I've also tried various pools without success. It doesn't give any specific error, on initial boot I get green light then flashing amber as bfg launches, then red flashes while it works, (green light on the whole time) then the red flashes get fewer and farther between over 1 to 3 minutes and hash rate drops to zero.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I'm a gpu miner, my only experience with asics is I owned a gridseed back in the day which ended in frustration and its still sitting on the shelf only successfully used for a handful of hours in its life.

You need to turn the voltage down even for stock voltage setting. Out of the box the voltage is set to around .75, which is good for up to 800 mhz. If it stops hahshing it’s because USB port doesn’t haven’t enough power. For 600 MHz .65v position is good and that will draw under an amp which will be stable for USB 3 port.
1326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 25, 2017, 04:13:11 AM
more bad news..

one came with a busted 2R2 chip.




edit: i found 2 of them with cracks on that chip.

Where did you order from/how were they shipped?? This looks like the board got bent badly during shipment.

That’s the inductor casing, a cracked casing won’t cause any functionality issues, but that’s still concerning. Either something bad happened during shipment or heatsinks are being applied the wrong way.
1327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Hubs Thread on: November 24, 2017, 06:32:32 PM
Lets refrain from calling stuff junk when you have no idea how crypto or the community in general works, and said community keeps the price where it is so you can mine with your expensive miners and make profit.

Most people don't have thousands to spend like you, or know nothing about mining and crypto in general to spend said thousands. This is a great way to get into it.

You can thank me for bringing thousands of new people into LTC, and support the price YOU mine at. Think twice before calling any of this junk or stupid.

What have you done to support LTC and the community in general?


I can thank you for profiting on people that dont know better by selling them equipment that has a coin flip chance at best of ever reaching break even? If people want one or two of them so they can pat themselves on the back and say that they are mining thats fine.

I was referring to people that were buying large quantities and trying to run them with a really expensive hub like the one I quoted when making my post. If you are going to invest that kind of money there is literally no reason to spend all that money versus buying a high end miner.


And those are not the people buying these, at least not the vast majority. Guess I was an idiot for mining 500 LTC with my junk GPUs for a LOSS in 2012 right Wink

Same goes for the people that bought my original Moonlander that were making .25 LTC a month (under $1 USD in 2016).

Oh wait yea those people made about 10x profit since the original.

For your info, I’m barely making ANY profit from pre-orders on these. I’m more interested in getting the largest number of people possible with the least cost into LTC, and funding Litecoin’s development at the same time.

Once again you have no idea what your talking about, so just go back to mining and selling your LTC the second you get a chance, and be glad there is a market for you to sell (most of your buyers are probably the idiots that bought my original Moonlander Wink




1328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Hubs Thread on: November 24, 2017, 05:43:29 PM
Eyeboot 49 Port - https://www.amazon.com/Eyeboot-Port-USB-110v-220v/dp/B00JCA4ARS or https://www.eyeboot.com/49-port-usb-hub-60a-power-supply.html

This bad boy can give 1amp to 20+ Moonlanders. It is expensive but high quality, and will run a ton of Moonlanders. Note that you need an external ATX power supply for this.



Why would anyone buy this junk?



Lets refrain from calling stuff junk when you have no idea how crypto or the community in general works, and said community keeps the price where it is so you can mine with your expensive miners and make profit.

Most people don't have thousands to spend like you, or know nothing about mining and crypto in general to spend said thousands. This is a great way to get into it.

You can thank me for bringing thousands of new people into LTC, and support the price YOU mine at. Think twice before calling any of this junk or stupid.

What have you done to support LTC and the community in general?
1329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 24, 2017, 05:32:47 PM
warning for high sierra users - looks like there's no driver yet available

yep, was debugging this with charlie, and apple has a new security mechanism for third party drivers that block them in Mac OS 10.13. If you have upgraded to High Sierra don't expect these to work. Im working with Silicon Labs to provide an update ASAP. In the meantime use a Windows, Linux/ Rasp Pi, or Mac with 10.09-10.12.

i noticed that after allowing the driver in Security & Privacy the chip is still not working. probably because mac drivers' version is still 5?


Workaround found for 10.13...thanks charlie for debugging this with me. Fix has been posted in FAQ and below:

The workaround is to disable the SIP, installed the driver then enable the SIP.
-Shut down the Mac, start with Cmd-R depressed to boot to the Recovery Partition that will display the System Utilities.
-Open the Terminal and issue the command csrutil status and you will see SIP is enabled. To disable the SIP issue the command csrutil disable and then restart the Mac.
-You can then download and install the latest driver from Silicon Labs, you have the new USB to UART driver installed, and should work with the moonlander now
-Shut down and boot to the System Utilities and issue the command csrutil enable and restart.
-The csrutil disable and csrtil enable can only be issued from the Terminal while booted to Recovery Partition. Yes, this is a PITA but it works.

While debugging this also found a bug with bfgminer, and current binary wont work with Mac OS < 10.12. Apparently Apple changed a critical base framework from 10.12 onwards and any binaries compiled on 10.12 (which is my dev system) wont work on 10.11 and below. If you want these run on a Mac us 10.12 for out of the box support, or 10.13 with the above fix.  I can't support dozens of distributions architectures and different versions within sorry Sad
1330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 24, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
Ordered 3 from bitmart and was told on the 6th they would ship within 10 days, then to be told 10 days later they has been a production problem slowing them down. Have been emailing them for support and promised an update last Monday but have only been getting the run around and excuses since then. I wanted to receive them before 12/3 as I'll be on holidays but that looks very unlikely now. Does anyone have any info on bitmart?

my order is still processing, think they waiting for sticks to arrive

One again please keep these threads on topic, this belongs in the order thread not in the support thread.

Bitmart was the last distributor I added, he is literally one of the last on the list and just shipped his sticks out, which wont get to SA until next week. You guys that ordered a month ago can't expect to get your sticks the same time for people that have been waiting for 3 months.
1331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: November 24, 2017, 04:40:45 AM
I've got 9 arriving from the pre-order that I'm looking for new homes for.

I can ship to the domestic US only.

Please PM me if you're interested.

M

Guys keep reselling stuff out of this thread, and post in appropriate sections.
1332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: November 22, 2017, 10:43:15 PM
Update on shipping please


Almost all pre-orders have been shipped out on my end. The only distributor that does not have them yet is bitshopper.de, and he will get them early next week. Distributors will be shipping out individual orders over the next week.
1333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 22, 2017, 10:38:42 PM
are these available in market ? in europe or asia ? how much is per piece.

This is the support thread, please keep questions only to support related topics. There is a general thread as well as an order thread linked in main post. To answer your question bitshopper.de will have remaining stock available for sale next week.
1334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 22, 2017, 10:22:44 PM
warning for high sierra users - looks like there's no driver yet available

yep, was debugging this with charlie, and apple has a new security mechanism for third party drivers that block them in Mac OS 10.13. If you have upgraded to High Sierra don't expect these to work. Im working with Silicon Labs to provide an update ASAP. In the meantime use a Windows, Linux/ Rasp Pi, or Mac with 10.09-10.12.
1335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 22, 2017, 03:38:38 PM
I would be careful about going off-topic here, maybe we need to start a new thread about usb hub for miners Inc comparability with different platforms like PI etc

Yea there is a wealth of knowledge already posted about hubs, if someone wants to start a thread and consolidate some of the info that would be awesome. Just look at my old Moonlander thread for some tips, and also check out sidehack's threads on his bitcoin USB miner, I believe they have their own hub discussion as well that would apply my sticks as well.
1336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread on: November 22, 2017, 02:00:29 AM
thanks for that writeup Astrali, when I think I got the "basic" instructions down but keep forgetting there are some people that never used linux before  Grin

and yes like I mentioned in the download links you'll need to install the required dependancies on a fresh system to run the compiled linux binaries. You only need

Code:
sudo apt install libjansson-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev

If you have never used linux before Id start off with just getting these to run on either windows or mac, since its just a download and double click the startup script to get running on those systems. Then you can start playing around in linux.
1337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: November 21, 2017, 03:44:07 PM
How would one get a Moonlander working with a Raspberry Pi by chance?

Guys please read the main post, and all related threads for this project before posting basic questions. The support thread is linked at the top of the OP, and your answer is in that post.
1338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: November 20, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
How can I get in for the next batch pre-sale?

keep an eye out here or my twitter account (jstefanop1).
1339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: L3+ Way Overclocked! 500M frequency - 650 MH/s! on: November 20, 2017, 05:08:15 PM
I’ll have to be on the lookout for the release of the L4+ with its 1.8 GH/s at 900 W and make sure to get in on the first batch.

Who told you L4+ is coming and at 1.8 Ghs 900 watt?

Definitely wont be that much. Die shrink to 16nm which I'm sure bitmain is working on will be either 500MH @ 400 watts, or 1GH at the same wattage now.
1340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: L3+ Way Overclocked! 500M frequency - 650 MH/s! on: November 20, 2017, 07:04:09 AM
Don't do that you will kill a board soooo fast

How and why? Its temps are at par with other L3+ stock settings? Can you please be specific for me please. I thought HW were okay so long as effective hashrate was stable.

Thanks in advance.



Dosent matter what temps your chips are...these boards are a serial powered chain controlled by a single buck. The mosfets are pretty nice for these, but at the power draw your approaching you will most certainly blow one of them eventually. Not to mention serial power designs definitely don't like to be run past amps they are not designed for.

Sure youll get an extra 100MH for a month or two, but whats better 500MH for a year straight, or blown boards after 6 months of running at 650MH outside of warranty and shit out of luck?

Slow and steady wins the race, even in crypto.
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